Wild-Fire

[Oh My Choking Soul]

The supposed "2007" rumor has literally started a media wild-fire. Obviously they suck it up because people love to watch this band fail, no news like bad news. I think this is taking it's toll on the fan base now. I personally feel exhausted for the first time by these boards... what your take guys and gals?

Negative press = negative press = sad fans

or

Negative press = any press = good press = happy fans

[joneslloyd]

the first...

unless a genuine explanation is given for not having a 2006 release, then fuck Guns N' Roses

That's how i feel at the moment.

Too much waiting, to little album(s)

[bigbri]

If Axl screws me again, I'm done.

[pasnow]

I'm getting tired of this, but not by the media. I don't blame the media, negative press, or reporters for GnR's actions or lack of... Just sick of the lack of an album, especially this year by being told since January there will be one.


Album in 2006 ? ? ?= Happy me
No album in 2006 = Me retiring from HTGTH

[joneslloyd]

and now is about the time the thread mysteriously disappears or posts get deleted 

[bangit]

I still think that we will see the album this year, i have faith in axl, he said this year, i believe him.
Its only if the year passes by without an explanation ill be fucked off big style.

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

If Axl screws me again, I'm done.

Screws you, haha. 

It's shit like this that gets me exhausted. You honestly think Axl is doing this for you? You think he's sitting at home or in his backstage area saying "Man, I hope BigBri isnt going to be mad at me if I end up not getting the album out this year."

He's not forcing you to be here. You're screwing yourself. Maybe you should find another hobbie or something.

[joneslloyd]

If Axl screws me again, I'm done.

Screws you, haha.?

It's shit like this that gets me exhausted. You honestly think Axl is doing this for you? You think he's sitting at home or in his backstage area saying "Man, I hope BigBri isnt going to be mad at me if I end up not getting the album out this year."

He's not forcing you to be here. You're screwing yourself. Maybe you should find another hobbie or something.

He IS however, screwing the fans collectivley, which BigBri and everyone else falls under.

Axl may need another hobbie if Chinese Democracy don't hit shelves soon

[pollyblue]

The supposed "2007" rumor has literally started a media wild-fire. Obviously they suck it up because people love to watch this band fail, no new like bad new. I think this is taking it's toll on the fan base now. I personally feel exhausted for the first time by these boards... what your take guys and gals?

Negative press = negative press = sad fans

or

Negative press = any press = good press = happy fans

you took the words right out of my mouth!

[illusionone]

I'm happy the band is actually active and touring. ?We have an official Web Site, stores are selling more GNR merchandise than i've seen in forever. ?If the album doesn't come out in '06, i'll wait - I've waited this long, whats another few months. ?I have to believe that the wait is for something important, meaning promotion issues, last minute changes, legal issues etc . . . .

So be it - i'm in this thing for the long haul. ?I've seen this band 4 times this year, maybe 2 more times, and I am happier than I ever have been with this band. ?I don't feel they owe me anything, and anything they give me I feel is a bonus.

-illusionone

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

If Axl screws me again, I'm done.

Screws you, haha. 

It's shit like this that gets me exhausted. You honestly think Axl is doing this for you? You think he's sitting at home or in his backstage area saying "Man, I hope BigBri isnt going to be mad at me if I end up not getting the album out this year."

He's not forcing you to be here. You're screwing yourself. Maybe you should find another hobbie or something.

He IS however, screwing the fans collectivley, which BigBri and everyone else falls under.

Axl may need another hobbie if Chinese Democracy don't hit shelves soon

Well maybe people should stop looking at Axl like he is Jesus. Everyone follows him so religiously they just lose track of reality. People here saying that they cant go on if the record isnt released this year and all that shit. Its a fuckin cd, there are millions of bands out there to consume your time until it comes out.

I'm a huge fan of Axl, I am on this board everday, but I dont get upset like its a life altering thing if the cd wont come out. Like Axl said, you people really do need to live your lives, if its affecting you that much. Maybe you guys need to get away from the Guns N' Roses internet world for a little while, get a breath a fresh air. Cause it seems some of you cant handle it

Axl will release it when he is damn-well ready. No internet bitching is gonna change anything.
Maybe earlier in the year he was ready to release it, but now maybe he's changed his mind. He's a human being, our minds change oftenly. I'm sure he didnt do this on purpose.

With all that said, I still do believe that the record will be out this year.

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

I'm happy the band is actually active and touring.  We have an official Web Site, stores are selling more GNR merchandise than i've seen in forever.  If the album doesn't come out in '06, i'll wait - I've waited this long, whats another few months.  I have to believe that the wait is for something important, meaning promotion issues, last minute changes, legal issues etc . . . .

So be it - i'm in this thing for the long haul.  I've seen this band 4 times this year, maybe 2 more times, and I am happier than I ever have been with this band.  I don't feel they owe me anything, and anything they give me I feel is a bonus.

-illusionone

I totally agree with everything you just said. I'm just happy my favorite singer is out there touring and being active in the music world with people he enjoys playing with. The album will just be a nice bonus for me.

[ppbebe]

me, happy too. With no date, I'm yet to wait anyways

Negative press < positive fans
the more mixed messages = the more possible silent launch

[illusionone]

I really just want the band to release the album when and how they feel it will make the most money and increase their exposure.  If now's not he time, wait until it is.

[bringu2yourknees]

All press is good press, when it comes to keeping GnR in the public eye.

I too am in this for the long haul regardless of what happens between now and January. ?Like someone stated before, Guns N' Roses don't owe us anything in terms of explanations, Chinese Democracy, Tours, etc. ?It's definitely nice when those things come to fruition, acually it's awesome. But given that nothing in our lives are dependant upon what they decide to do, they kind of owe it to themselves to do these things.

[bazgnr]

I really just want the band to release the album when and how they feel it will make the most money and increase their exposure.? If now's not he time, wait until it is.

I agree with you to a large extent, but enough is enough. ?Get the music out, hit the reset button, and move forward from there. ?The longer the wait, the greater the expectations, the more challenging it becomes to meet those expectations.

[guns_n_motley]

this is all part of their elaborate scheme...

the more you get the fans dissapointed, the more excited yo uare when it comes out...


like Motley Crue, before they reunited, 2 weeks prior actually Nikki sixx made a statement about how theyd never reunite etc, and that they arent. It hit EVERY major rock news/radio page... I was let down, yes... then all of a sudden December 6 they reunite...

I think GNR is trying to pull this off, but in a bigger scale...

[Skunk]

This one time a homeless man was begging as my friend walked by, and he said "please can you help me out, i'm really really hungry." ? So my friend had some chinese food in a bag and he said "here man, you can have this."
The homeless man said "what is it?" and my friend told him it was peking duck, to which the homeless man said "eh, no thanks."
That's what GNR fans are like sometimes.

After all the years where Axl wasn't even photographed, i'm happy this band is active and things seem to be rolling. Happy i can see them tour. ?I know 02 was a bummer, and believe me i'm here everyday fiending for this album, i talk about it all the time.... but nobody is getting screwed, and nothing is owed to us. When they do something or sell something, we can buy it or not. We buy it because we're fans. I don't have to check this board everyday, and if i didn't want to i wouldn't.
I like that theyre in the news.

[bringu2yourknees]

I really just want the band to release the album when and how they feel it will make the most money and increase their exposure.? If now's not he time, wait until it is.

I agree with you 100%. ?Now, more than at any point in the last 7 or 8 years, rock music for the most part, sucks. ?Granted there are a few groups out there that are decent, but I listen to more metal now than anything else, because rock music in general has been suffering.

[MikeD]

you know what's taking a toll on this fan base. All these fucking threads about the album being late, the new release dates fueld by people calling their local Best Buy, and everyone speculating on when CD will be out.
Give it a fucking rest until 2007 (if the album isn't out then.)

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

you know what's taking a toll on this fan base. All these fucking threads about the album being late, the new release dates fueld by people calling their local Best Buy, and everyone speculating on when CD will be out.
Give it a fucking rest until 2007 (if the album isn't out then.)

Thank you, someone else realizes this too.

[Lesty]

If Axl screws me again, I'm done.

Screws you, haha. 

It's shit like this that gets me exhausted. You honestly think Axl is doing this for you? You think he's sitting at home or in his backstage area saying "Man, I hope BigBri isnt going to be mad at me if I end up not getting the album out this year."

He's not forcing you to be here. You're screwing yourself. Maybe you should find another hobbie or something.

As sad as it is for some fans to swear off GnR if no album comes out, it's even worse to critize them and defend Axl. What you don't GET is that there's a loyalty between ann artist and their fans. This loyalty that the faithful GnR fans have kept the past decade is wearing thin. You can only tease and tempt them for so long before they finally give up and voice their frustration.
You have any idea how many artists and bands woud KILL for the kind of loyalty, devotion and patience that many of us have given Axl over the past 10 years??
It's not like people are asking for much. Releasing an album 10 years in the making is not a chore when you have the money, label and fanbase to support it.

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

If Axl screws me again, I'm done.

Screws you, haha. 

It's shit like this that gets me exhausted. You honestly think Axl is doing this for you? You think he's sitting at home or in his backstage area saying "Man, I hope BigBri isnt going to be mad at me if I end up not getting the album out this year."

He's not forcing you to be here. You're screwing yourself. Maybe you should find another hobbie or something.

As sad as it is for some fans to swear off GnR if no album comes out, it's even worse to critize them and defend Axl. What you don't GET is that there's a loyalty between ann artist and their fans. This loyalty that the faithful GnR fans have kept the past decade is wearing thin. You can only tease and tempt them for so long before they finally give up and voice their frustration.
You have any idea how many artists and bands woud KILL for the kind of loyalty, devotion and patience that many of us have given Axl over the past 10 years??
It's not like people are asking for much. Releasing an album 10 years in the making is not a chore when you have the money, label and fanbase to support it.

I wasnt trying to defend Axl. I was just stating how everyone takes it as a personal attack if Axl decides not to release the album. It's like they have this frame of mind like Axl is saying "I'm gonna piss Lesty off by not releasing the album." (just an example)

I'm not saying it isnt wrong that it doesnt get released this year. Yes, Axl said it was going to so circumstantially it should. But what people dont seem to realize is that Axl is human too. His mind changes, he gets insecure, he feels lonely, he gets angry, bla bla bla, the list goes on. At the end of the day, Axl has to think of himself and do what he feels is best for himself, not his fans, not the music world. Thats what people need to realize and thats all I was trying to say.

[illusionone]

I really just want the band to release the album when and how they feel it will make the most money and increase their exposure.? If now's not he time, wait until it is.

I agree with you to a large extent, but enough is enough. ?Get the music out, hit the reset button, and move forward from there. ?The longer the wait, the greater the expectations, the more challenging it becomes to meet those expectations.

At this point the expectation level is as high as it's going to get.  After the 10 year point, they can't get any higher.  It is what it is, I have faith in this band and their music has always and will continue to be great!

[lennonisgod]

All press is good press to a point (Unless it has to do with child porn, molestation, rape, etc.).  But that doesn't mean every fan will be happy about it as you said in your example.  Not every fan will be happy or upset by the same thing, unless CD doesn't come out this decade.  Then I can assume all of us wouldn't be jumping for fucking joy over that.

But who really gives a fuck what OPINION the press may have for this band??  If it bothers someone that much, then maybe they shouldn't be reading that shit??  The press is in for a big fucking surprise this year though when the album is dropped like a bomb on their fucking heads.  IT WILL COME OUT THIS YEAR and the pizza delivery guy (my top source) just gave me confirmation when he brought my lunch... Ummm, That was a joke for those of you not smart enough to get it, well half of it was a joke.  THE ALBUM WILL BE COMING OUT IN 2006!!!  Thus fans will be delighted and smiling with fucking glee and then we can spend the entire year of 2007 gloating and waiting for the next album. 

[illusionone]

This one time a homeless man was begging as my friend walked by, and he said "please can you help me out, i'm really really hungry." ? So my friend had some chinese food in a bag and he said "here man, you can have this."
The homeless man said "what is it?" and my friend told him it was peking duck, to which the homeless man said "eh, no thanks."
That's what GNR fans are like sometimes.

I really couldn't have said it better myself. ?When Chinese Democracy comes out - this same group will be saying "Great it came out - now what's next?"

[toddb1211]

I still think the way there going with releasing the CD is there going to release it first on itunes and see how it sells on there.Then release a hard copy of   CD at the first of the year.Thats just my feeling on it but I guess everyone has an opinion (just like armpits)

[Oh My Choking Soul]

This one time a homeless man was begging as my friend walked by, and he said "please can you help me out, i'm really really hungry." ? So my friend had some chinese food in a bag and he said "here man, you can have this."
The homeless man said "what is it?" and my friend told him it was peking duck, to which the homeless man said "eh, no thanks."
That's what GNR fans are like sometimes.

I really couldn't have said it better myself. ?When Chinese Democracy comes out - this same group will be saying "Great it came out - now what's next?"

What's wrong with that? Any fan of any band looks forward to the next release by thier favorite band. There will be tracks that we know exist that are not on CD, people will be excited to hear them and anything else Axl releases in the future, you say that like it is a bad thing.

[Oh My Choking Soul]

you know what's taking a toll on this fan base. All these fucking threads about the album being late, the new release dates fueld by people calling their local Best Buy, and everyone speculating on when CD will be out.
Give it a fucking rest until 2007 (if the album isn't out then.)

Thank you, someone else realizes this too.

This post isn't negative. However, I think your comment of "...All these motherfucking threads..." would likely fit that category.

[33]

the first...

unless a genuine explanation is given for not having a 2006 release, then fuck Guns N' Roses

That's how i feel at the moment.

Too much waiting, to little album(s)

See you then! Fancy being this negative when we are jus about to get everything we wanted! What a waste of you time

[33]

If Axl screws me again, I'm done.

When has he screwed you before? Do you know him then? I am betting my money you dont know him! How can he have screwed you if you dont know the man? Lets hope you dont stick around here! These threads really bring the negative worms out of the woodwork! Mike