Does Axl BullShit or Does Slash Lie

[axl2]

well you know the story? axl called slash a lier and what not in many interviews about a lot of things?? so ummm is axl really telling the truth or is slash really the truth teller all this time?

[MR.BROWNSTONE]

Only two people know the truth and they are Axl and Slash. I don't think we will hear the truth any time soon. Maybe a few years from now we might.  [peace]    [ok]

[Thumper]

Exactly MR.BROWNSTONE.  They are the only two that know the truth and I doubt we'll ever know.

[bill213]

I'm pretty sure neither one of them are angels....I mean lets look at the past....i'm sure everyone played a relevant part in the dissention of old GNR.  Hell it happens you just gotta live and let dieeeeeeee. Ha anyhow for anyone to think that even thou we don't know what happened but still say one of them is of no innocence HA.

[Michelle]

I agree with bill213. I guess neither of them always tells the truth and just those two know exactly so it's kinda difficult to answer the question coz we all weren't there.

[Dizzy]

When asked why the original band dissented, Axl once made a statement "everybody in the band hated everybody else, except for me.  Slash was fighting wih Izzy over control of the band and both wanted to destroy it."  I think that's a steaming pile of horseshit.  On that basis, I've always viewed Axl as the bigger liar.  

The things Slash has said about the breakup always seem to make more sense, whilst Axl's statements seem to be driven by bitterness.

And keep in mind, if Slash is a liar, that means Duff, Matt, Steven, Gilby, and Izzy were all liars too, because they all say pretty much the same thing about the band's disintegration.

[kidrock]

I don't think we're getting the total truth out of either of them.

[Lineker10]

I agree with Dizzy -I think Axls the bigger liar, definatly in past interviews anyway - cause all the other past members agree with Slashs side of the stroy not Axls and I find it hard to accept that Izzy, Duff, Matt, Steven and Gilby are all liars as well as Slash.

[Lose Your Illusions]

I agree with Dizzy -I think Axls the bigger liar, definatly in past interviews anyway - cause all the other past members agree with Slashs side of the stroy not Axls and I find it hard to accept that Izzy, Duff, Matt, Steven and Gilby are all liars as well as Slash.

good point. its like 6 against 1. you do the math

[axl2]

its hard too tell....but one of the reasons duff and slash left was over Paul...and then axl said people didn't realize he was just gonna be there till they got a new guitarist. And after a long time he did go... i think a lot of the problems started when Slash decided Gilby wasn't working and him and axl were trying too get a new rythme guitarit

[axls_locomotive]

axl is a bigger liar than slash...isnt that a bit juvenile?...so he might have told more lies than slash, then again maybe not...motivations for lieing can be numerous from, covering up their feelings, protecting someone, psychological issues, to outright bitterness...who knows what the real motivations behind the lies are, never mind identifying which one of them lied which can be difficult enough since nobody knows every confrontation they may have had...

ive seen slash being a liar and heard him laugh while others make fun of axl...but ive never saw it the other way around...  

[bill213]

 [smoking] In all actuality who does it matter to for whichever to be the biggest liar?  That stuff is old and I don't think they're gonna try to patch any relationship up.  Just wasn't meant to be.

[Lineker10]

ive seen slash being a liar and heard him laugh while others make fun of axl...but ive never saw it the other way around...  

Yeh but Axl talks bad about Slash all the time - read the interview with gnronline.com he hits Slash with abuse there and in most other interviews he does.

[Butch Français]

hey people, if they told the truth, we still would believe what we want to believe! we can never be sure what is true.....and I agree with Dizzy!

[axl2]

ive seen slash being a liar and heard him laugh while others make fun of axl...but ive never saw it the other way around...  

Yeh but Axl talks bad about Slash all the time - read the interview with gnronline.com he hits Slash with abuse there and in most other interviews he does.

i think the thing is though...he never says shit about his playing or anything. If he really wanted too bash him hed say hes not that good or the new guys are better. So hes not doing that but hes saying other things that were bad about him. Like hes a lier and that he didn't want too expand. Now i think if he was lien he would add bashing words too his playing but he didn't. So therefore it seems like he could possibly be telling some truth about the whole thing

[bill213]

Remember in Axl's little manifesto he wrote in August....he said There were things that couldn't be done without Slash and he's mentioned it before that Slash was a great player and Slash has mentioned Axl as one of the greatest frontmen ever....but it just wasn't meant to be.....people let other things get in the way of the fact at hand.....which sucks because the fans suffer......These two have a personal hatred for each other not a business hatred

[michael mackagan]

they're  all getting along well, except for axl who always wanted to do things his way,it's obviously all clear!

[axls_locomotive]

I wouldnt have called it a manifesto but he said this

"He did not want to do that or put himself through the rigors of taking the band to that level even if he was capable of writing it. Was he capable of doing it? Absolutely 100%. I think that some of the riffs that were coming out of him were the meanest, most contemporary, bluesiest, rocking thing since Aerosmith?s Rocks. The 2000 version of Aerosmith Rocks or the 1996 Aerosmith Rocks by the time we would have put it out. I don?t know if I would have wanted to even do a world tour at the time but I wanted to put that record together and could we have done it? Yes. It?s not something I would want to approach (without Slash) because at the time there was only one person that I knew who could do certain riffs that way. "

Isnt this praise?...

[axl2]

he has a lot of good things too say about slash....it makes me wonder, maybe just maybe slash should have put some of that extra effort.Slash said he was going industrial and i think that was a lie so that fans could take his side on the decision but i don't think it was about that at all.

[izzygreek]

guys...Izzy, Slash, Matt, Duff...they all get along with each other so well...i mean they still jam together and it's very possible that they will soon release new material of theirs...doesn't that show something? i mean why wouldn't they want Axl with them?

obviously, they don't have a problem with Axl...he has a problem with them...

i really hope Axl will get his ass together and do something to make things up...but i don't think he'll do it...