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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2004, 10:20:55 PM »

Bucket seems to have an "explosiveness" to his playing. Its something I will surely miss.
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2004, 12:19:26 AM »

Bucket really can play anything and everything. I heard he listened to the Pink Floyd album "Dark Side of the Moon" and reworked it within a matter of hours in his own kick ass version.  I just really enjoyed the "big 3" of Robin, Buckethead, and Axl.  Hopefully something is being worked behind the scenes and Buckethead will once again regain his chicken coop in Axl's recording studio.
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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2004, 02:40:36 AM »

I am sure that Buckethead is an extremely complicated issue for Axl. What you get in the way of writing, performing and "aura" is second to none. As someone mentioned... he's so left field that he actually worked as a Slash replacement because he so clearly was anything but Slash. Unfortunately, or so we're told, Buckethead is one shitty/complicated bandmate who evidently caused serious friction with Axl, Tommy and Robin.

I do hope some of his material makes it on to CD at least... ok
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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2004, 02:47:28 AM »

Bucket really can play anything and everything. I heard he listened to the Pink Floyd album "Dark Side of the Moon" and reworked it within a matter of hours in his own kick ass version.? I just really enjoyed the "big 3" of Robin, Buckethead, and Axl.? Hopefully something is being worked behind the scenes and Buckethead will once again regain his chicken coop in Axl's recording studio.

The whole dynamic of Brain still being in nu GN'R given all that went on with his bud Buckethead is bizarre. Perhaps Brain holds the key to bringing Bucket back. On the other hand, Tommy seems to give every indication that Axl is plowing ahead without bucket and the band is better off for it... who knows. drool
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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2004, 06:01:39 AM »

And unlike Tommy Bucketheads music isnt 3 chords downstrummed "hey ho , lets go!" punk rock.  Roll Eyes



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I really don't see what you're talking about though. I don't hear much "'hey ho, let's go" , neither in Tommy's music (did you really listen to the full album?) nor in the Replacements', except on their very first albums maybe, and that was over 20 years ago, so time to wake up.

To me the situation with Buckethead is really simple. No member has criticized his guitar playing abilities or his contribution to CD. But maybe he's not very comfortable in a real band configuration. And it seems that he can't get along with some members on a personal level. That's something you can't do shit about. Creating music with so many people is a hard enough task, they don't need someone creating frictions (again, I'm not blaming BH, that's just the way it is). In that sense it's probably a good thing that he's out.

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« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2004, 07:47:57 AM »

Fuckin hell, BH was the lead guitarist! Imagine the original GNR without Slash?

Well, I guess only a few know how good his guitar parts really are. What will be interesting is the response to his work if CD is released with it in - if CD is very successful maybe this will influence a return to the band for BH, unless he is going to be replaced.
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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2004, 08:01:18 AM »

It's really weird that when I mentioned years ago that it's ridiculos how many stupid rednecks were bashing Slash & Co. and I predicted that they will do the same with their new idols (for example Buckehead) when they'll quit, these 'hardcore fans' attacked me saying that BH and the others will never leave GN'R. Lol. Even when some members of the board said that it seems that BH isn't in a real good relationship with the others, especially Robin, and there were some fights (not physical) between the two, they were named as 'negative people' and were bashed. Now 'every hc fans' know that BH is a fuckhead, 'Fuckethead' how they call him, and they are repeating again and again that the band will do better without him, and only some people miss him. (I miss him since he was the most talented musician in Nu-GN'R.) I can imagine he's not the person you can easily get along with, but hell, he wears a mask, a KFC shit on his head, talks through a puppet and sleeps in a chicken hutch, what did Axl expect?  Huh
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« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2004, 08:28:53 AM »

Why the hell do people keep suggesting that Bucket go and make up with AXL Huh

The guy fucken left. He's gone and he won't be coming back. Do u think if u suggest he go talk to axl that he hasn't thought of it himself if he actually wanted back in in GN'R.

You don't leave Axl the way Bucket did and expect to be welcomed with open arms by him. It's Axl for god sakes he prolly thinks he got cheated again in his life by Bucket's deaprture and holds a grudge.

And Tommy's an absolute tool when he said it was good that Bucket left. For fucks sakes man have a mind of your own. If Axl fuken left the project and called music quits full stop and Tommy was left in charge of the album he'd say axl leaving the project was the best thing that could happen.

No more Buckethead threads in the NU-GNR section please. The guys as outdated in GN'R as Slash and the rest of the old band are.
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« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2004, 08:34:43 AM »

No more Buckethead threads in the NU-GNR section please. The guys as outdated in GN'R as Slash and the rest of the old band are.

On the other hand the whole discussion is Dead Horse.  yes
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« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2004, 08:51:07 AM »

No more Buckethead threads in the NU-GNR section please. The guys as outdated in GN'R as Slash and the rest of the old band are.

On the other hand the whole discussion is Dead Horse.? yes

Exactly, a whole fuckin shitload of this section belongs in Dead Horse and Ex-Gunners
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« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2004, 09:19:26 AM »

I agree..this topic comes up far too often...
nothing against BH, but why are there so many people that think this band is doomed without him? You'll never be in a discussion about great singer/guitarist combinations and say...
"Well, Roth and Van Halen, Tyler and Perry, Jaggar and richards...oh and Buckethead and Axl".
If anyone enjoys his music, that's great..I think he has a diverse style that a lot of people really can get into. But...he's anything but Rock n Roll. If you're into star wars and robots and stuff, then cool..but GnR will be just fine without him. And depending on how much of his work ends up being on Chinese Democracy, he'll go down in GnR history as just a blip on the radar screen.
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Hey, don't knock the Ramones and punk rock please Tongue?

Hey , thats funny .. where were/are you when people jump on bucket for playing fast "shred" .. when in fact alot of music is anything but shred?  Huh

And no , VGH isnt really punk .. it's a great mainstream album to be honest. I dig it. But the replacments were built on and live on their punk rep.
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« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2004, 12:56:25 PM »

But...he's anything but Rock n Roll. If you're into star wars and robots and stuff, then cool..

Ignorance.

Anything but rock n roll? Geez .. go buy population overide or a thanatopis album. It's funny for me to read you guys call him "just a shredder" or "just into star wars and robots" ... ignorance at it's highest.

btw.. heres a tribute Buckethead did the day before yesterday to Ole Dirty Bastard ..

http://bucketheadland.com/odb/
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« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2004, 01:17:44 PM »



Hey, don't knock the Ramones and punk rock please Tongue 

Hey , thats funny .. where were/are you when people jump on bucket for playing fast "shred"

GN'R were built on Punk, among other things.  Unlike shred.
I think she has  a reason to stick up for punk rock.
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Hey , thats funny .. where were/are you when people jump on bucket for playing fast "shred" .. when in fact alot of music is anything but shred?  Huh


Where was I? Nowhere. I never defended him nor bashed him, and never said he was a shredder.
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« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2004, 01:39:32 PM »

But...he's anything but Rock n Roll.

Ignorance.

Anything but rock n roll? Geez ..
Agreed.? So was your punk comment. hihi

For people who speak as if there was a formula or manuals for rock n? roll, I have some queries:
What?s rock n? roll? When did rock n? roll fall to have such a dogma?
In other words, when did rock music die?
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« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2004, 01:47:59 PM »

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thanks for the link... that shit is sick!

I'm one of those people who thinks the band isn't the same without bucket. I honestly wouldn't give a shit if any member besides buckethead left the band. Maybe my mind will change when/if the album comes out and I get a better feel for everyone. I think, besides axl, buckethead is the hardest to replace....

Isn't it funny how Axl, and a bunch of members on this board say how the band is better without bucket, he slowed down the process... now the real work begins, etc. Yet, just a few days after O.D.B. dies buckethead puts together this mix. It looks like he is a workaholic if you ask me... look how many projects and shit he has done solo or collab. I think he was just so fed up with waiting on axl to perfect his masterpiece he just said fuck it man... I'm out. Just my opinion.....
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« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2004, 02:13:45 PM »

But...he's anything but Rock n Roll. If you're into star wars and robots and stuff, then cool..

Ignorance.

Anything but rock n roll? Geez .. go buy population overide or a thanatopis album. It's funny for me to read you guys call him "just a shredder" or "just into star wars and robots" ... ignorance at it's highest.

btw.. heres a tribute Buckethead did the day before yesterday to Ole Dirty Bastard ..

http://bucketheadland.com/odb/

Not really. I've heard his stuff, and seen him in person perform live with GnR. It's not ignorance, it's an opinion. I don't think a mute with a bucket on his head  is rock n roll, not does he fit in with the GnR image or style.
He has a playing style that's innovative and unique, and he's talented. I'm even looking forward to hearing his guitar on Chinese Democracy (if it's included). But if you look back on the history of this band, where it came from, etc...BH sticks out like a sore thumb and I think it's better for all parties that he left.
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« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2004, 03:06:56 PM »

Bucket was the element that elevated this band to the stratosphere....Great band without, peerless with....
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« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2004, 10:51:31 PM »

Ok, a whole shitload of this section belongs in dead horse you said your piece.  I'm just saying mine, because looking back on these new GN'R dvd's Bucket was praised by a lot of people (similar to Slash).  I know he comes to these boards and maybe he'll look back on it, give Axl a call and reform the new GN'R band in it's entirity.  Just wishful thinking on my part.
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