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I CAN'T DECIDE WHO I LIKE MORE, IZZY OR GILBY?

SURE, IZZY IS FABULOUS AND THERE WOULDN'T BE A GN'R WITHOUT HIM BUT GILBY IS SO COOL AS WELL.

IZZY: GORGEOUS, GREAT ALBUMS, AWSOME WRITER, COOLEST GUY ON THE PLANET. :drool:  :smoking:  :love:

GILBY: SEXY, GOOD ALBUMS, STRONG AND UNIQUE  : ok:  :beer:  :drool:

OK.....FROM THAT PATHETIC LIST I MIGHT CHOOSE IZZY.............YEAH, IZZY RULES!!!!!!

WHAT DO YOU THINK?     

Izzy was much more important to GN'R.  That being said Gilby is an awesome dude.  I've talked about me meeting him countless times on this board, so I'll spare you guys that story again, but they're both really cool guys and great song writers/musicians.  I'll always prefer Izzy though.

Fuck wat a question! well i've never really forgiven izzy for leavin the band,but iv never really forgiven gilby for taken his place.

They are both awsum guitar playrs,they can both sing,izzy is a brill song writer but sayin that iv never heard any of gilby's solo work, is it any good?

my heart is still lyin with afd so im gonna say izzy, but like i said iv heard a lot more of izzy's work than gilby's so im probly not the best person to choose.just my opinion.
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Cubb

Izzy was definetly a key member especially in the song writting department. Although I prefer Gilbys solo work to Izzys but thats just me. Its a shame that guns fell apart when it did, it would have been interesting to hear an original album by them with Gilby on board.

Gilby's solo stuff is very good.  I saw him live and his songs were excellent.  I'd love to pick up one of his albums.  His song Tiujana Jail is awesome.

I think Izzy wrote better stuff while he was in GN'R, but comparing Izzy's and Gilby's solo stuff, I prefer Gilby's.

I've also heard from people that have seen him live, that Gilby is quite a good lead guitar player too, although we never saw much of that in GN'R, cause that was Slash's territory. So it's hard to say who's the better guitarist of the two.

I was hoping Gilby would hook back up with Matt, Duff & Slash again in VR.

I like Izzy more. Gilby didn't really give any material for Gn'R, just played Izzys part.
Btw, Slash plays on Tijuana Jail  :rofl:

I did not know that...very cool.  Never heard the studio version of that song.  Do they break into the My Michelle riff in the studio version?

actually he plays on Cure me... or kill me... & Tijuana Jail. what comes to that riff, atleast i havent noticed it.

Like Makane said Slash plays both on Cure Me.. and Tijuana jail and they don't break in the My Michelle riff in the studio version. Also Matt plays on Tijuna Jail aswell. Gilby said that those two songs are his favourite songs of everything he wrote.

Gilby's stuff is pretty cool, I like it more then Slash and Duff's solo stuff, but Izzy is by far my favourite.

Gilby didn't have the opportunity to show what he could do in GNR so its an unfair comparison

For solo albums, Gilby stuff is much more to my personal preference and Pawnshop Guitars is maybe the best ex-gunners album, though Electric tears and Ain't life grand are at least as good

Obviously Izzy, for reasons already mentioned. I have a question for you guys about Gilby. When you heard 'Cure Me..or Kill Me' for the first time, did you guys think he wrote the song to be done in GNR? I bought that album when it first came out, and that song had such a GNR vibe to it, I had a feeling he meant it to be on a new GNR record. The music, the lyrics, just the feel of it was so GNR. It sounded like something Axl would sing. Someone mentioned how sad it is that a new album wasn't done in 1994 while he was still in the band. Very true. I remember how positive Gilby was about GNR, and how he said they were making progress on a new album. Then, in the blink of an eye, he was fired. A decent explanation has never been given on why he was fired, and I've always had a feeling his departure played a major role in the band's 94-95 disintegration. I wonder if Axl could go back, would he still fire Gilby? If Izzy's departure was the beginning of the end, then Gilby's firing was the end.

Gilby said in an interview that Cure Me... was the last song he wrote for the album, basically the album was done and he wrote the song and decided to quickly put it on the album.

I am one of the very few people from generation that would say Gilby over Izzy if we can't have both.
But then again,  95% fans would say AFD was GNR best album and I would say Illisions (Estranged, Coma,  Dead horse,  Breakdown,  Locomotive,  Back off,  Double talkin jive,  Pretty tied up,  Civil war,  Don't  cry,  Nov.  rain, Bad apples,  You could be mine...).

Izzy - great guy but - too little life in him.    He never seemed to really live r'n'r but he likes music in general.
One thing that I thought was pathetic,  Izzy went to the WC,  took you know what and asked a photographer on the tour bus to take a picture of it cause that was the biggest he ever had... I mean c'mon...

Gilby - great guy,  both great musician and vocalist.   He had much more emotions with him and wasn't flexible towards anyone (just like Izzy).   He seemed to be more of the rocker but not too wild.   He had his famil with him during the Illusions tour which I thought was great.  Just bigger rock image and better stage presence.
He never acred on the stage as if he was bored.  Izzy did...

Good thing he did, because its the best song on the album. It would've fit nicely on a 1994-95 GNR album. If only things could have turned out differently. Oh well. "Cure Me.." is one of the most killer opening tracks to an album. Ever. Its a great album, but the songs dont live up to that opening track. Thats one of the reasons I always thought it was meant for a GNR record. Its like he wrote his best song for GNR, it was rejected or the band wasn't ready to record, so he put it on his solo album. I'm still surprised at the minor response this song received. Definitely the best song on the radio in the fall of 1994.

Actually, Izzy had his wife and dog with him aswell on UYI ;)

You can see before he left during UYI he was really unhappy, no smiles and he just stands there...bored like you said. There's a big difference between that and the Ju Ju Hound videos from '92 where he's jumping around and smiling. But I guess he was unhappy in GN'R with Axl's tantrums and Slash and Duff's alcohol and drugs abuse..

Izzy

Yeah, I don't know if Cure Me was meant for GN'R or not, but I most definitely picture Axl singing it.

Gilby all the way

Izzy of course.
they are both very talented, but Izzy wrote some really kick-ass songs.
it's hard to accept someone new when u;ve loved the person their replacing for so long.
gilby's cool, but izzy is God.

(plus he's gorgeous too!!! ;))

GN'R sounded their best with Izzy without a doubt. I could really notice the difference after he left. Gilby seems really cool and it would have been interesting to hear an original GN'R with him involved. Listening to those new Izzy samples, reminded me how amazing it could be if Izzy were involved with Axl again  :(

This is an absolute no brainer
Izzy all the way

I prefer Gilby, he seems such a nice guy (he trully is). He wasn't though enough bad boy for Guns N' Roses. So what? :beer:

Stradlin all of the way. I like Gilby, for the situation he came into and the little time he had he did a damn fine job of filling Stradlin's shoes though. At the time those were pretty damn big shoes to fill . Out of GnR, i like both equally both have put out so damn fine solo material. I always wanted to see Gilby and Izzy share the stage and do a few songs together. Both are friends it seems maybe one day we will see some sort of collaboration, in a live setting or on an album.

Izzy! He has a great voice to go along with his amazing guitar. :yes: : ok:

I'd go for Izzy, much more important, important part
in many of the greatest tracks.

Gilby is hardcore... Izzy is hardcore....

I would have to say they are both different but in the way the same!! They both get my vote!!!

Izzy all the way!, Gilby just did a couple of concerts but didn't participate in the records so I think thats a real plus to Izzy  : ok:

Gilby just did a couple of concerts? Thats news to me. In my memory, he toured with GNR for 2 years. : ok:

I wonder who then played rhythm guitar on Spaghettie Incident and on LiveEra that Axl spoiled by re-recording in the studio??

Ilike the original gnr guys so izzy is for me.... Gilby was great and always will be but he will always be a replacement to me.

You got a point there I forgot spaghetti and the Live era records but the first is only covers and the 2nd are just concerts of GNR songs that were written in the Izzy time right?

GN'R recorded many songs during UYI sessions. Seven songs that later went on Spaghetti were also recorded at this time:

Ain't It Fun
Attitude
Black Leather
Down On The Farm
I Don't Care About You
New Rose

...and probably Hair Of The Dog, cause this song was played in early years by Hollywood Rose so I think it's the seventh.

When they were recording SI? they put Gilby's guitar in place of Izzy's.

What does Spaghetti Incident actually mean? i've never really got it...

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I think it was something that steve adler said one day cause he was so stoned, so he wakes up and exclaim: "The spaghetti Incident?". They all laughed  :hihi:
Feel free to correct me cause that's the only thing I've ever heard about the name.

Spaghetti was a name they used for drugs, one day Steven walked in screaming where his spaghetti was which the rest took.?Everybody laughed except Axl cause he didn't know they called it Spaghetti.

Then when the Adler court thing happened the Spaghetti thing was brought up there hence the Spaghetti Incident.

I prefer Izzy for his contributions to GnR, I mean, he wrote a lot of their best songs. However to go on solo material I'd have to say Gilby.

So Izzy for GnR, Gilby for solo work.

Yeah, I totally agree Jamie.  Izzy was a huge part of GN'R, and without him the band was really missing something.  But Gilby's solo stuff is better.  Pawnshop Guitars is a great album.

I would definately have to say Izzy - a talented guitarist and brilliant songwriter.  After Axl and (very closely) behind Slash he was the most important member in the band, but that is just my opinion.

Having said that Gilby was the perfect replacement!

Izzy Stradlin, no doubt.. I think Gilby is better of on his own.. I never really enjoyed his time in Guns N' Roses but I think his solo albums are cool..

Izzy.

Izzy because he was a great songwriter and Slash played some of his best material with him.

Appetite for Destruction.  Need I say more?   

Izzy = God. nuff said.  :peace:

i like them both..........but izzy definetly had the right look!! : ok: :yes:, and he was part of the original so you have to like him.? ? however i do like the ''wild horses'' cover gilby did with slash!

Both have fantastic solo albums, Gilby's col parker album was also great.  Try listening to Gilby's original bands Candy and Kill for Thrills they are what you would call real 'poodle' rock records.

Izzy i feel is alittle more diverse in he's writting. Both very cool individuals and probably shouldnt be compared. I will always be grateful for Gilby joining the band if he hadn't The whole GN'R history could have ended.

Izzy! forever  :peace:

Izzy!  :peace:

Gilby was good, very good, but Izzy was the "head" of GNR

Iz

This is one thing I don't understand, why are people upset when [insert musician's name] joins [insert band name]? People tend to blame the new musician for joining the band, Dave Navaro joining the Red Hot Chili Peppers springs to mind. It's funny because if you want to blame someone, blame the people who hired him.

In Gilby's case, blame Guns 'n Roses because obviously Gilby didn't hire himself. It's pretty obvious that anyone joining the band was going to get blasted.

It's not an issue of whether or not Izzy is better than Gilby, or Paul, or even Richard, they all bring something completely different to the band. It's a question of personal taste.

I love Gilby, but Izzy was and still is the coolest gunner.

Gilby is very cool, but, Izzy is Guns N'Roses founder, he wrote AFD, Lies and UYI...

So, Izzy all the way.

Concerning Rolling Stones influences, I can't hear anything as good as Bad Obsesion on a Gilby's record.

Izzy.. what moron would pick Gilby over Izzy?

Gilby didn't contribute anything past ther tour and TSI?...

I think Gilby is fairly underrated outside of GNR forum world (though maybe Supernova turns that around).  He's kind of like the John Corabi of guitarists. 

That said, I have to pick Izzy.  All his solo stuff is really good (and I love the hard hitting "Like a Dog").  Gilby's solo stuff is good too...just not quite as strong. 

And, of course, Izzy was so crucial to the GNR material, despite having Slash always in the limelight as lead guitarist.

Gilby clarke is a fucking ass clown asshole.

Izzy, not even a question.

Izzy, by a longshot!!! 

I am not a fan of Gilby.

izzy.. owned? :D

he had such stage presence.. the whole band did

izzy eazily

I think Gilby is very underrated guitarist. IMO he did very good job replacing Izzy, and he fit the band very well. Also his solo stuff is cool; there was some great ideas for the band and you can hear he wrote some of the songs for Gn'R.

And I like how he worked on-stage and communicated with other members. Axl really liked this guy too, their jokes during the '93-tour were funny :hihi:

Izzy

Izzy all the way.
AXL & IZZY started GNR,AXL came after Izzy lef Indiana to make a band. :peace:
Great songwriter,the nightrain riff.

Gilby was cool but Izzy absolutely.

I wanna hear Izzy play T.W.A.T. live. Not sure why, just think it would be badass.
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Gilby......I liked the way in interviews he was generally humbled to be there as a part of GNR and realised it

Izzy!

Izzy

better songwriter

Izzy he's way better

well..my favorite tune by Izzy is shuffle it all  ..my favorite tune by guilby is hunting dogs..

shuffle it alls better so I'll go with Izzy :peace:

my mom lost pawnshop guitars though :rant: I'd like to hear hunting dogs again

cant find it to download :-\

This could be the dumbest thread ever made on this message forum.


Izzy wrote SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many GNR songs or Cowrote them.


Gilby didnt do shit but end up on a horrible reality TV show.

Yes, but apparently Gilby is the better guitarist.
So, it's not incorrect to compare them...

and how is it that gilby is a better guitarist? ::)

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Please don't take offense, bu this is IZZY-ly the dumbest thread ever.
Comparing Izzy to Gilby is like comparing Axl to Tracy or Roberta.
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ever participate in one of the Slash Vs. Robin things? :hihi:

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No thanks :hihi:
Comparing Slash to Robin is like comparing Axl to Trent Reznor  :rofl:
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Slash and Robin were both in Guns n' roses though :hihi:

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The way I see it, Slash was in GNR, Robin is in Axl's Roses.  :hihi:
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Gilby owes his whole career to Izzy Stradlin.

Without Izzy GNR would never have become such a famous band. If Izzy hadnt left Gilby Clarke would not have been shot to instant fame by being "Izzys Replacement". None of you would even know who Gilby Clarke was if he hadn't been Izzys replacement, and he certainly wouldnt have been able to finance his own records.

Saying that, Pawn Shop Guitars is an awesome album. Almost as good as Ju Ju Hounds  ;D

Pawnshop Guitars is a very good album, and one that I own and spin when the mood strikes me.  Tijuana Jail, Hunting Dogs, and the title track are the highlights for me. 

well you're looking at it wrong.