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Title: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on October 21, 2007, 08:51:49 PM
I don't normally start these kind of threads but do you think Guns will play Don't Cry as a full a regular song on the next tour seeing as they kind of did in Japan?


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Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: TWAT RULES on October 21, 2007, 09:29:24 PM
i hope not......they play too many slow songs already.? i want to hear rockers and new tunes.  oh yeah, and alot less wasted time on solos


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on October 21, 2007, 09:29:59 PM
So would I but I want to know if people think we will get a full band doing don't cry and if they think it'll be a regular in the set list


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Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on October 21, 2007, 09:30:55 PM
i make a post saying i prefer they play new songs and the post gets deleted? thats pathetic....


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on October 21, 2007, 09:32:26 PM
i make a post saying i prefer they play new songs and the post gets deleted? thats pathetic....

What the fuck? I just replied to ibelieve's post and now its gone. Why?


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Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: FunkyMonkey on October 21, 2007, 10:20:29 PM
I hope they play it on the next tour...it's one of my favorite songs and I think it is a good sign that they played it in Japan. : ok:


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: grog mug on October 21, 2007, 10:25:56 PM
It is funny that when you mention something you prefer ITS GONE all of the sudden.  Remember this website is watched closely by the band.  Don't Cry on the next tour would be great though...


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: doooodickiebr on October 21, 2007, 10:27:05 PM
It is funny that when you mention something you prefer ITS GONE all of the sudden.? Remember this website is watched closely by the band.? Don't Cry on the next tour would be great though...

does the band REALLY look at what goes on here?


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on October 21, 2007, 10:29:28 PM
It is funny that when you mention something you prefer ITS GONE all of the sudden.? Remember this website is watched closely by the band.? Don't Cry on the next tour would be great though...

does the band REALLY look at what goes on here?

Yup but I really dont think they'd give a fuck about someone saying they'd like to hear more new stuff than old stuff


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Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: Alpachiris on October 21, 2007, 10:31:45 PM
i make a post saying i prefer they play new songs and the post gets deleted? thats pathetic....

rant setlist!!

jaj :hihi:

i agreed with you!


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on October 21, 2007, 10:44:46 PM
I dont like starting shit with the mods but can some tell us why that post was deleted, As you khnow I am very very very Pro Axl and GN'R so this is entirerly out of curiosity/


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Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: Alpachiris on October 21, 2007, 11:00:55 PM
In the making of dont cry axl said--- after wttj dont cry was the most requested song and famous!
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Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: Chief on October 21, 2007, 11:34:39 PM
I think it would be nice if it were rotated into the set on occasion.


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on October 22, 2007, 12:02:58 AM
the set list will most likely contain the most of the songs on the GH and Better, IRS, The Blues, and Chinese Democracy (the song) :-\


i really hope they play a song that hasn't been played live yet like Catcher in the Rye or some thing along the lines of Prostitute or General OR maybe Silkworms or Oh My GOD. course i don't know and i don't care cause really i'm not picky but if they add any song to there list i hope its a new one and not Don't Cry. Even though it is a nice song to hear live every blue moon :peace:


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: SterileEyes on October 22, 2007, 12:09:31 AM
...what "next tour"?  ???


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: maynard on October 22, 2007, 01:10:55 AM
...what "next tour"?  ???

Bumblefoot's


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: Olorin on October 22, 2007, 05:09:07 AM
I don't care much for the new version of don't cry, I didnt care much for the illusion era of it either. I love listening to the bootlegs from the 80's when they played it - Ritz 87 has no equal for me :drool:

If they do tour again I want to hear more new songs live, a 50/50 mix of old and new would be a nice experience.


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: kriss_boy on October 22, 2007, 05:12:31 AM
Erm.. without starting a new thread... umm whats the deal with this album?

I started a new job a couple of months ago so i havent been on here much.. i take it still no news?


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: Gargh! on October 22, 2007, 08:12:31 AM
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Erm.. without starting a new thread... umm whats the deal with this album?

I started a new job a couple of months ago so i havent been on here much.. i take it still no news?

Nope, none.  Believe me, if there was news, you'd know by now.


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: jarmo on October 22, 2007, 08:13:48 AM
I dont like starting shit with the mods but can some tell us why that post was deleted, As you khnow I am very very very Pro Axl and GN'R so this is entirerly out of curiosity/


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We really need yet another setlist thread with the same arguments don't we?



/jarmo


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: wadey on October 22, 2007, 09:12:24 AM
i rekon the band should play what they feel is right at the time and fuck everyone else
thats just my opinon though! yeah i got my favs and my preferences, but you cant please everyone


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: faldor on October 22, 2007, 09:24:25 AM
I would think it would depend on when and under what circumstances the next tour is held.  Hopefully the next time we see them, Chinese Democracy will be out.  In that case I'm sure they'll play a bulk of new material, with the staple classics.  At best "Don't Cry" may be sprinkled in from time to time.  I doubt it would become a regular though.  If we have no new material, it would have a better chance at becoming a regular in the setlist, but I really can't see them touring again without an official new release.


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: kriss_boy on October 22, 2007, 09:39:48 AM
Can we safely say its not coming out this year though? I mean its almost november....


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: faldor on October 22, 2007, 09:57:13 AM
I would say that's pretty safe to say.  I'm hoping the plan is to gauge audience reaction from the release of Sebastian Bach's CD.  Hopefully people will hear Axl on those 3 tracks and demand to hear more, paving the way for Chinese Democracy.


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on October 22, 2007, 10:03:38 AM
I would say that's pretty safe to say.? I'm hoping the plan is to gauge audience reaction from the release of Sebastian Bach's CD.? Hopefully people will hear Axl on those 3 tracks and demand to hear more, paving the way for Chinese Democracy.

Yeah, but what does that actually mean??

Demand to hear more?  Who do you mean?  People "other" than Gnr fans on these boards? The general public?  People calling into radio stations?  I think enough people want this thing to more than " pave the way" without a cameo on Angel Down.  I mean it's not like he's guest singing on a new Zeppelin album here.

On topic, If they were to add Don't Cry and remove a couple of damn cover songs or guitar solos, than that would make the live performance a little more interesting.


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: faldor on October 22, 2007, 10:15:40 AM
I would say that's pretty safe to say.? I'm hoping the plan is to gauge audience reaction from the release of Sebastian Bach's CD.? Hopefully people will hear Axl on those 3 tracks and demand to hear more, paving the way for Chinese Democracy.

Yeah, but what does that actually mean??

Demand to hear more?? Who do you mean?? People "other" than Gnr fans on these boards? The general public?? People calling into radio stations?? I think enough people want this thing to more than " pave the way" without a cameo on Angel Down.? I mean it's not like he's guest singing on a new Zeppelin album here.

On topic, If they were to add Don't Cry and remove a couple of damn cover songs or guitar solos, than that would make the live performance a little more interesting.
Oh I agree enough people want to hear what Axl's been working on for so long now.  But I don't know, maybe he needs some reassurance.  If the media, the general public, the hardcore fans give him a positive response than maybe he'll finally feel comfortable enough to release his own material.  Who knows, that could be a crazy unfounded theory, but a positive response certainly wouldn't hurt our chances.

And "Don't Cry" did sort of take the place of Bumblefoot's solo, so you kill two birds with one stone there.


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: russtcb on October 22, 2007, 10:19:26 AM
I don't normally start these kind of threads but do you think Guns will play Don't Cry as a full a regular song on the next tour seeing as they kind of did in Japan?


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I'd love it if they did. To be honest, I know Ron started the whole thing but I'd love to see Robin play the solo on it if the whole band played the song. I think Robin would kick ass.


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: kriss_boy on October 22, 2007, 10:45:09 AM
I dont think the plan is to gauge the success of Bachs album.. as its a very poor gauge of how CD will do.

Oh well... I guess I'll pop back in here in another 6 months or so. Actually I pretty much forgot about CD for the first time in 10 years!! I cant believe its October already! Ive been so busy playing Halo 3 you see :D


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: AdZ on October 22, 2007, 11:14:54 AM
I dont like starting shit with the mods but can some tell us why that post was deleted, As you khnow I am very very very Pro Axl and GN'R so this is entirerly out of curiosity/

I deleted it because I didn't see what the fuck someones complaint about new songs had to do with the arrangement of Don't Cry.


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: MR. GNR on October 22, 2007, 12:44:40 PM
I dont like starting shit with the mods but can some tell us why that post was deleted, As you khnow I am very very very Pro Axl and GN'R so this is entirerly out of curiosity/

I deleted it because I didn't see what the fuck someones complaint about new songs had to do with the arrangement of Don't Cry.

Instead of filling a spot with a song that everybody knows.... Fill it with a song which we have not heard yet....

And I know that im gona be told that the majority of people who come to gnr concerts wanna hear the classics and Yes it is a classic that everybody knows.... But wouldnt You rather rockin out to a new Rocker than a slow song like  ''dont cry''....


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: AdZ on October 22, 2007, 01:23:16 PM
But that.. isn't what this is about?


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: GnR-NOW on October 22, 2007, 01:28:13 PM
Assuming there will be another tour .... I'm hoping there isn't a 2 year period of dead time or anything like that.  In a perfect world, I would hope for a Spring 2008 US Tour.  They can play whatever they want, who hasn't had a good time at a GN'R concert !!!!


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on October 22, 2007, 01:33:13 PM
I would say that's pretty safe to say.? I'm hoping the plan is to gauge audience reaction from the release of Sebastian Bach's CD.? Hopefully people will hear Axl on those 3 tracks and demand to hear more, paving the way for Chinese Democracy.

Yeah, but what does that actually mean??

Demand to hear more?? Who do you mean?? People "other" than Gnr fans on these boards? The general public?? People calling into radio stations?? I think enough people want this thing to more than " pave the way" without a cameo on Angel Down.? I mean it's not like he's guest singing on a new Zeppelin album here.

On topic, If they were to add Don't Cry and remove a couple of damn cover songs or guitar solos, than that would make the live performance a little more interesting.
Oh I agree enough people want to hear what Axl's been working on for so long now.? But I don't know, maybe he needs some reassurance.? If the media, the general public, the hardcore fans give him a positive response than maybe he'll finally feel comfortable enough to release his own material.? Who knows, that could be a crazy unfounded theory, but a positive response certainly wouldn't hurt our chances.

And "Don't Cry" did sort of take the place of Bumblefoot's solo, so you kill two birds with one stone there.


Yes, you are correct about Don't Cry taking Bumble's spot, so you've got me there. BUT! if they were to add Estranged to the mix , they could kill all needless solos or both cover tunes, so there! : ok:

As for him needing re-assurance, I would'nt want to speculate on whether his psyche is that shallow, but you may have a point -


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: MikeFrett on October 22, 2007, 05:40:48 PM
Look, all I gotta say is that the crowds are going to get awfully small once the old is fazed out and the new is in. A large majority of the GN'R peeps prefer the slower and clearer sounding songs like Don't Cry, November Rain and Sweet Child.

They are are not going to be into this whole jumbled Industrial sound, it's just too damn hard for them. Watch what I'm saying when the time comes. We can hope the album isn't all hard. You guys wouldn't understand that though because, like me, you're too much of a fanboy.


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: faldor on October 22, 2007, 08:43:57 PM
From the new songs we've heard, I really don't think the NEW songs are all that off the mark from the classic GNR songs.  I mean, they're not carbon copies or on the same structure as Appetite but you can definitely hear GNR.  Every band evolves over the years.  If the album were to be filled with songs like "Silkworms" and "Oh My God", then you might be right about fans not being ready to embrace that.  But aside from those 2 songs, I don't see any problem with the others being widely accepted.  "The Blues" and "Catcher In The Rye" are certainly in the realm of a "Don't Cry" or one of the other ballads.  I really don't think they've changed that much.  As Jon Bon Jovi would say, "only the names have changed."


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on October 23, 2007, 03:25:46 PM
As Jon Bon Jovi would say, "only the names have changed."

Jon Bon Jovi should never be referenced when discussing any Gnr song....new or old! :no:


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: faldor on October 23, 2007, 05:12:20 PM
As Jon Bon Jovi would say, "only the names have changed."

Jon Bon Jovi should never be referenced when discussing any Gnr song....new or old! :no:
You're absolutely right.  I'm sorry, I don't know what came over me.  It'll never happen again.


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: CheapJon on October 23, 2007, 05:21:05 PM
i rekon the band should play what they feel is right at the time and fuck everyone else
thats just my opinon though! yeah i got my favs and my preferences, but you cant please everyone

I would love that too  :yes:


Title: Re: Don't Cry Next Tour
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on October 24, 2007, 03:08:12 PM


Jon Bon Jovi should never be referenced when discussing any Gnr song....new or old! :no:
You're absolutely right.? I'm sorry, I don't know what came over me.? It'll never happen again.
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