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« on: March 14, 2005, 03:59:54 PM »

I took the clip comparing a section of Axl playing piano to a section of the orchestrated piece (thanks MetaSoul) and tinkered with it. Off the bat, you can tell the pitches are near identical. The difference, though, is that they have different tempos. To check if they truly fit, I stretched the piano to give it the same tempo as the orchestrated piece. In the mp3 below, they are first played side by side, then overlaid. It's a clear match. In my book, this is definitive proof that the (rough?) orchestral arrangement of TWAT has been leaked. This is not a coincidence.

http://fire.prohosting.com/penz/proof.mp3


To those that say Axl is playing piano while the piece is violin, keep in mind that the piece was probably written on a synth keyboard by Axl, and later orchestrated.
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2005, 04:05:26 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2005, 04:06:43 PM »

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works for me, but some ppl have had problems with the server in the past
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2005, 04:13:20 PM »

It works for me its not much of a leak even if its real though still nothing from Axl or the rest of the band is on it.

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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2005, 04:13:33 PM »

It works! Its a small clip you had..maybe 35 seconds?
Damn it really sounds the exact same. Where is Axl playing the piano in this? Was it a concert in the last tour?

You may be on to something! I am no music expert ...but that is very fitting! Shocked
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2005, 04:21:30 PM »

I must admit that those two pieces really do fit together and sound very much alike.  Shocked

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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2005, 04:25:21 PM »

Damn i can't download it... If I do a right click and Save as it wants to save to .htm  nervous
But I believe you and I say you: good work visionary432   peace
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2005, 04:27:49 PM »

Just click the file and wait a moment and a quicktimeplayer will turn up.

But, I must be stupid. Which song is this???
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2005, 04:29:09 PM »

Damn i can't download it... If I do a right click and Save as it wants to save to .htm? nervous
But I believe you and I say you: good work visionary432? ?peace

don't right click
just regular click
then regular click again on the link on the page that opens
then a window pops up that asks you to choose to open or save
click save

i believe the piano piece is Axl playing the piano intro to november rain (as played on the 02 tour)
but as visionary432 says he adjusted the tempo to match the other piece
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2005, 04:33:13 PM »

It does sound about the same.  Is this clip from the November Rain intro on the '02 tour? 
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2005, 04:40:31 PM »

Could someone send me the file please? loretian@sp1at.com  My default media player doesn't understand the file, and since I can't save it locally, I can't try any other mp3 players I have.
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2005, 04:42:10 PM »

Damn i can't download it... If I do a right click and Save as it wants to save to .htm? nervous
But I believe you and I say you: good work visionary432? ?peace

don't right click
just regular click
then regular click again on the link on the page that opens
then a window pops up that asks you to choose to open or save
click save

i believe the piano piece is Axl playing the piano intro to november rain (as played on the 02 tour)
but as visionary432 says he adjusted the tempo to match the other piece

still don't work, no window pops up and I have blocking pop ups on my browser unchecked.
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2005, 04:43:13 PM »

Hey, if this is true then I deserve a huge hug from everyone in this forum; I remember thinking way back that a vocal melody could be fit snugly in with the piano melody. I could hear the words 'there was a time' accompanying that piece of music.

ummmm......so if this is true.....where did this piece of music originate? who leaked it? I remember we received rumors that the label was pressuring a release by going forward with a GH and, in lieu of that failure, leaking some of the CD tracks.

Merck was very quick in quashing this rumor. Could there be some truth behind this track's authenticity?
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2005, 04:45:37 PM »

www.yousendit.com  Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2005, 04:46:13 PM »

If it is legit, my guess is this is a synthesized version of the stuff Axl wanted orchestrated, probably sent to Buckmaster or someone. ? To get the orchestration from Buckmaster (or whomever), he either had to send him actual musical notation, or something like this. ?Once a track like this leaves Axl's inner circle, it's much more likely to leak.
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2005, 04:47:48 PM »

listen to that: http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1LLET7ZRG6K1S3639FUZ9BYF1I
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2005, 04:49:43 PM »

This is not absolute proof by any means...change the title.
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2005, 04:50:06 PM »


Thank You. It sounds the same.
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2005, 04:52:02 PM »

I gotta admit .. I dont really like it (in the context of a GNR album)

I actually play music similar to that on my own piano and all but I'm hoping this isnt the kinda stuff that makes it onto the democracy album.  nervous
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2005, 04:55:07 PM »

Just because you think it's the same thing doesn't make it proof.

Many people thought "My Favorite Pillow" was a GN'R track....



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