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Title: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: GypsySoul on January 21, 2017, 07:40:58 PM
January 22nd, 2017 Kobe, Japan @ World Memorial Hall

Setlist:
Intro - Looney Tunes then some tribal sounding percussion then....
   McBob:  Kobe!, you wanted the best... well they couldn't make it... so here's what you get... from Los Angeles... Guns N' Roses!!!

It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle
Double Talkin' Jive
Better
Estranged
Live and Let Die
Rocket Queen
You Could Be Mine
Duff's solo - You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory/New Rose
This I Love
Civil War
Coma
Band Intros
Slash's solo (sounds like the longer version of just doodlez intro to...)/Godfather Theme
Sweet Child O' Mine
Out Ta Get Me
Richard N' Slash - Wish You Were Here
November Rain (no Axl solo intro)
  (not positive but at the end of NR it sounded like either Axl was clearing his throat or he was barking/woofing)
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
   (Axl acknowledges Richard during KOHD)
Nightrain (Axl says three times to the crowd "Can you hear that?")

Encore:
SORRY
DON'T CRY
THE SEEKER
   (Axl barked again at the end of the song)
PARADISE CITY


(http://gypsysoul.webspaceforme.net/Kobe.jpg)


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: D-GenerationX on January 21, 2017, 10:08:42 PM
As cool as that looks (and it looks awesome) is that out of necessity? 

Can they not show the guns?


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: gcluskey on January 22, 2017, 03:43:52 AM
As cool as that looks (and it looks awesome) is that out of necessity? 

Can they not show the guns?

I doubt it, I've seen Hello Kitty pistols and hand grenades. I don't think the Japanese would be concerned about showing guns on a poster


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: Lord Stan on January 22, 2017, 04:02:59 AM
As cool as that looks (and it looks awesome) is that out of necessity? 

Can they not show the guns?

While Japan has extremely tough gun laws those swords are so deeply in their culture so that's probably just a nod to them. Also, it's still a weapon.

At least they didn't use Kobe beef ::)


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: Boromir on January 22, 2017, 04:43:43 AM
Photo from mygnr forum.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2wekN-UsAEpvR1.jpg)


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: GypsySoul on January 22, 2017, 04:50:56 AM
Apparently the show has been on for a while and they're past DTJ

Here Today... Gone To Hell!
Double Talkin' Jive

(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/16229182_1227562177323569_1829169151948619776_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQzMzI2MDIyNzcyMTI1NTQ4NQ%3D%3D.2)


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: GypsySoul on January 22, 2017, 04:52:39 AM
https://www.periscope.tv/chari_metal/1nAKEMANgXaKL



Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: GypsySoul on January 22, 2017, 05:10:13 AM
Here Today... Gone To Hell!
Live and let die

(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/16122513_359653667746792_1275285853014327296_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQzMzI3MTY4NDM4NzI2ODc3NA%3D%3D.2)


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: GypsySoul on January 22, 2017, 05:28:18 AM
Here Today... Gone To Hell!
You can't put your arms around a memory


(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/16123097_723903601107409_3666256896446169088_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQzMzI4MTMxNDY2MDA5MTExOA%3D%3D.2)


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: GypsySoul on January 22, 2017, 05:33:06 AM
As cool as that looks (and it looks awesome) is that out of necessity? 

Can they not show the guns?

It wasn't "they" ... I picked that picture to use in my setlist updates post.

This is the "official" one from GNR:
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/14583547_240797606367125_2347727946896113664_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQzMzA4ODYzOTU0MTMyNjgyNA%3D%3D.2)


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: GypsySoul on January 22, 2017, 06:35:02 AM
ENCORE:
SORRY
DON'T CRY
THE SEEKER
PARADISE CITY





Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: Boromir on January 22, 2017, 06:52:42 AM
Got the feeling Axl wasn't feeling so good tonight. Get some rest uncle.

Thanks Gypsy for the updates  : ok:


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: GypsySoul on January 22, 2017, 06:53:39 AM
GNR is streaming PC on Facebook live:

https://www.facebook.com/gunsnroses/videos/10154980644308069/



THANKS TO TONIGHT'S PERISCOPER @chari_metal   :beer:




Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: GypsySoul on January 22, 2017, 07:01:58 AM
Got the feeling Axl wasn't feeling so good tonight.

I think you might be right.  Two or three times I could hear what sounded like him clearing his throat.

It confused me at first because I couldn't imagine why Axl was making barking/woofing sounds.
Guess better he was barking and not barfing.



Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: Boromir on January 22, 2017, 07:02:07 AM
Axl bowed with a red bathrobe  ;D


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: GypsySoul on January 22, 2017, 07:25:54 AM
Axl bowed with a red bathrobe  ;D

Someone will hopefully post a cleaner pic later but for now here's a screenshot from the @chari_metal's periscope:

(http://gypsysoul.webspaceforme.net/KobeRobe.png)


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: rebelhipi on January 22, 2017, 08:48:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7jM93hvndA
Nice to see Paradise city from Franks view


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: Executioner on January 22, 2017, 01:24:56 PM
Got the feeling Axl wasn't feeling so good tonight.

I think you might be right.  Two or three times I could hear what sounded like him clearing his throat.

It confused me at first because I couldn't imagine why Axl was making barking/woofing sounds.
Guess better he was barking and not barfing.


I know he had a long year doing Acdc and GnR  it must have really put a strain on his vocals and he seems to be laying off the screeching on song's like Live and let die,Jungle and Paradise City, Some shows are very close together so it doesn't give him much time to recover ,but hopefully it's something that a few hot whiskeys and honey will sort out.


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: GypsySoul on January 22, 2017, 03:39:35 PM
I know he had a long year doing Acdc and GnR  it must have really put a strain on his vocals and he seems to be laying off the screeching on song's like Live and let die,Jungle and Paradise City, Some shows are very close together so it doesn't give him much time to recover ,but hopefully it's something that a few hot whiskeys and honey will sort out.

It was show #2.  Considering it's been 7 weeks since the last show of the previous leg of the tour, I'd think it has more to do with traveling (long flights, cabin pressure, climate/temperature difference, etc.). 

Axl probably (hopefully) just has a little case of the sniffles and with your very sound medical advice of "a few hot whiskeys and honey," should be 100% for the next scheduled show.



Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: GypsySoul on January 22, 2017, 07:38:59 PM
Uploader - Palmiro Guerrieri
Intro + It's So Easy:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osThC1UdmeY
WTTJ:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50RCV-9IxGg
SCOM:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6tq4uOwO_A
Civil War:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkuf67dRfXM
Don't Cry+The Seeker:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wc7t-_volU

Uploader - JL Cover
Sorry:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eavlh-Mrrw

Uploader - live matsusee
Rocket Queen:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7YZn9fmVnc
Live and Let Die:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GfEXIy8f18

Uploader - nashwanpod
November Rain:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfa8xhLFpKw



Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: HBK on January 22, 2017, 11:46:41 PM
Guns N' Roses Live in Concert @ Kobe, Japan [January 22, 2017] FULL SHOW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LacrEY0SpJw


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: ITARocker on January 23, 2017, 04:08:02 AM
He got some problems with his voice...again. Hope it's just a flu  :hihi:


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: D-GenerationX on January 23, 2017, 10:59:36 AM

He got some problems with his voice...again. Hope it's just a flu  :hihi:


Yeah, no shit, huh?

We shall see.


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: Ali on January 23, 2017, 03:31:33 PM
He got some problems with his voice...again. Hope it's just a flu  :hihi:
He sounds fine from what I heard.

Ali


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: D-GenerationX on January 23, 2017, 04:35:03 PM
It sounds a little weaker than it did on the GNR tour last year.  And defeintiely weaker than any AC/DC show last year.

That said, it's his first show in months.  Always willing to give a pass for that first handful.

Now, he still sounds like this in the summer...well, that's a problem.  But, getting way ahead of ourselves there.


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: Ali on January 23, 2017, 05:04:50 PM
I think it should be pretty clear by now that he approaches AC/DC and GN'R completely differently from a vocal perspective. At least, it is to me.

Ali


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: ITARocker on January 23, 2017, 07:08:32 PM
I think it should be pretty clear by now that he approaches AC/DC and GN'R completely differently from a vocal perspective. At least, it is to me.

Ali

Its' weaker than some months before, trust me. Hope he will be ready for imola  ;D


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: D-GenerationX on January 23, 2017, 10:02:37 PM

I think it should be pretty clear by now that he approaches AC/DC and GN'R completely differently from a vocal perspective. At least, it is to me.


But even last year, his GNR concerts weren't on par with his AC/DC shows.  I think the point being made here is that these clips don't even show him in GNR 2016 voice, forget AC/DC 2016.

But whatever, it's the first 2 shows.  And he's rusty after a layoff.  When I don't hit the putting green for a few weeks, I'm not tip top either.  I'm human.  So is Axl.


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: jarmo on January 24, 2017, 12:43:17 AM
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/jarmo


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: nalafej on January 24, 2017, 08:31:11 AM

I think it should be pretty clear by now that he approaches AC/DC and GN'R completely differently from a vocal perspective. At least, it is to me.


But even last year, his GNR concerts weren't on par with his AC/DC shows.  I think the point being made here is that these clips don't even show him in GNR 2016 voice, forget AC/DC 2016.

But whatever, it's the first 2 shows.  And he's rusty after a layoff.  When I don't hit the putting green for a few weeks, I'm not tip top either.  I'm human.  So is Axl.

I don't get this argument. He nailed the first AC/DC show. He nailed the first three shows with Slash back.


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: JAEBALL on January 24, 2017, 09:46:11 AM
I'm at the point where I agree with all complaints about Axls voice should be ignored and deleted.

For the love of god like Ali said there is obviously a different approach to AC/DC.... but people insist on comparing his efforts between the two shows.

If you are unhappy that Axl doesn't sound the same to when he was younger just please listen to the cd's and watch the old videos.  You don't have to go to the shows and nobody here cares about your issues with his voice.


His voice at his age for the amount of strain he puts it thru is incredible in my opinion.

This tour has been nothing short of a dream come true on all fronts.


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: D-GenerationX on January 24, 2017, 10:12:35 AM

I don't get this argument. He nailed the first AC/DC show. He nailed the first three shows with Slash back.


That is true.  He's in pretty strong voice in those Vegas shows.


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: D-GenerationX on January 24, 2017, 10:14:08 AM

This tour has been nothing short of a dream come true on all fronts.


They aren't coming to Philly again, but to Hershey.  Bit more than a stone's throw.

Yet I know so many people that are schlepping it out there in August, because they didn't go to the Philly show this past July.

They all said they saw the clips and were kicking themselves. 


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: JAEBALL on January 24, 2017, 10:22:07 AM

This tour has been nothing short of a dream come true on all fronts.


They aren't coming to Philly again, but to Hershey.  Bit more than a stone's throw.

Yet I know so many people that are schlepping it out there in August, because they didn't go to the Philly show this past July.

They all said they saw the clips and were kicking themselves. 

I'm most likely going to drive down to Hershey this summer too ... waiting to see if something gets announced closer to NYC. So far , Hershey is closest.


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: D-GenerationX on January 24, 2017, 10:26:31 AM
Have to admit it was awesome seeing the reaction people had to the clips of the reunion shows.


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: ITARocker on January 24, 2017, 12:44:30 PM
I'm at the point where I agree with all complaints about Axls voice should be ignored and deleted.

For the love of god like Ali said there is obviously a different approach to AC/DC.... but people insist on comparing his efforts between the two shows.

If you are unhappy that Axl doesn't sound the same to when he was younger just please listen to the cd's and watch the old videos.  You don't have to go to the shows and nobody here cares about your issues with his voice.


His voice at his age for the amount of strain he puts it thru is incredible in my opinion.

This tour has been nothing short of a dream come true on all fronts.

There's a big difference between talking and complaining. When something is great and beatiful we are going to talk about that, when something is not that great or horrible we are going to talk about that. Simple as that. If u are unhappy that people don't say what you want them to say just don't read  :peace: . Personally I was enthusiastic of 2016 gnr and ac dc perfomances . The first 2 2017 shows, in my opinion, weren't that great. What is the problem saying that?


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: GypsySoul on January 24, 2017, 02:08:44 PM
The first 2 2017 shows, in my opinion, weren't that great. What is the problem saying that?
The problem with saying that is because it's a health issue (cold/flu/etc) as opposed to a singing voice issue (pitch/vocal range/etc).

Watching & listening "live" on my laptop via someone's cell phone streaming, IMO Axl and the band sounded just fine.  It wasn't until hearing Axl making what sounded to me like woofing noises did it get my attention that there was something off.  (at first I thought it might be him joking with the crowd by some kind of nod to a local cartoon character similar to Deputy Dawg or something) 

Even with the health issues, Axl not only soldiered through but did so at a high caliber of passion n' stamina considering it was only the second show.

Wishing him good health for tomorrow's show, the entire tour and always.



Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: D-GenerationX on January 24, 2017, 02:17:09 PM

The first 2 2017 shows, in my opinion, weren't that great. What is the problem saying that?


This is supposed to be a safe space from such treasonous and seditious talk.

Funnily enough, from everything I've seen in my years here, nothing prolongs a topic's stay towards the top of the agenda more more than insistence you modify that opinion and do so immediately.  A post that could have let pass without comment becomes 3 pages of demands you either fall back in line or just STFU.

Everyone is still pretty over the moon around here, going on 2 years now.  Why mess with that?


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: D-GenerationX on January 24, 2017, 02:20:25 PM

Wishing him good health for tomorrow's show, the entire tour and always.


He was so solid all last year, I see little reason to think he simply forgot how to do the job over the past 90 or whatever days.

Give it a handful of shows.  I'm sure it will all be fine.


Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: HBK on January 24, 2017, 02:27:20 PM
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Title: Re: [Updates] January 22, 2017 Kobe, Japan
Post by: GypsySoul on January 24, 2017, 03:02:11 PM

Wishing him good health for tomorrow's show, the entire tour and always.


He was so solid all last year, I see little reason to think he simply forgot how to do the job over the past 90 or whatever days.

Give it a handful of shows.  I'm sure it will all be fine.

My concern is more on a personal level.  These shows go on around 4:30 or 5 AM in the morning my time so I'm physically and empathetically groggy.  I really enjoy and appreciate the periscope and facebook streams but I admit it upsets me to watch thinking/knowing that Axl is not feeling well. (example: I was nervous when his foot cast came off and he being mobile again on stage for fear of him being in pain or maybe causing himself additional injury).

I also have a lot of empathy for the crowd because, as many of us have witnessed at our own shows, nothing beats seeing Axl & GNR live and it would suck if - for whatever reason - someone in the band could not bring their A-game.

I'm sure it will all be fine.
I'm sure it will all be fine, too.