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Ahh, the flippant people on here are indeed miserable. Why don't you guys read The Screwtape Letters. If you haven't, funny.
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Quote from: difleha on July 28, 2007, 09:54:34 AM
Ahh, the flippant people on here are indeed miserable.
Flippant? probably; miserable? probably not.
Quote from: difleha on July 28, 2007, 09:54:34 AM
Why don't you guys read The Screwtape Letters.
I don't read very much fiction, but when I do, I prefer to read something that wasn't criticized by it's own author.
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Ahhh, good ol' difleha. Hello! Do you see a lot of miserable people here? Don't count me in. I'm as happy as Jessica Alba's panties thank you very much.
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Quote from: fuckin crazy on July 28, 2007, 12:34:31 PM
Quote from: difleha on July 28, 2007, 09:54:34 AM
Ahh, the flippant people on here are indeed miserable.
Flippant? probably; miserable? probably not.
Quote from: difleha on July 28, 2007, 09:54:34 AM
Why don't you guys read The Screwtape Letters.
I don't read very much fiction, but when I do, I prefer to read something that wasn't criticized by it's own author.
First of all, he said it was distasteful to write, because he, Lewis, was acting as Screwtape in his book. It was horrific for him ,as a Christian(Don't argue that with me, he reconverted to Christianity when he was 31), to write that. In 1959, he went back and do the book in a different way. There wasn't anything wrong with The ScrewTape letters.
Why are you guys so stubborn? What's wrong with admitting your guilt to God? You spend as much time trying to disprove God as I believe in God. How come you can get a picture of God and acknowledge him but not believe in him?
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Quote from: difleha on July 28, 2007, 06:51:50 PM
How come you can get a picture of God and acknowledge him but not believe in him?
i can get a picture of a flying spaghetti monster that plays backgammon with penguins on the third tuesday of every month contaiting the letter M; that doesnt mean i believe in him.
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Quote from: 2NaFish on July 28, 2007, 07:43:24 PM
Quote from: difleha on July 28, 2007, 06:51:50 PM
How come you can get a picture of God and acknowledge him but not believe in him?
i can get a picture of a flying spaghetti monster that plays backgammon with penguins on the third tuesday of every month contaiting the letter M; that doesnt mean i believe in him.
Lol, that was so funny of me to say. Well, I'm not that good at proving because after all, you can't prove or disprove God, but at
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I believe in Jesus and God.
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^^^Now that's the Difleha I've come to know and love! You love Jesus, wonderful...now how about you open up a science book so that in 50 years when you get to meet him you don't sound so darn silly.
While you are doing that, I'll construct some more run-on sentences that probably pretty accurately describe my scrambled thought processes right now.
I shit you not, I've been told by a born-again whack-job that I'm not going to heaven because I don't believe in what they believe in. I told them that I'm a good person...I've never killed anybody, etc., etc., but it just doesn't matter. Apparently, you can be a mass-murderer, serial rapist, and child molester, and still make it into heaven if you accept Christ as your lord and savior. Pardon me if I say, "Bullshit."
Personally, I find some comfort in exploring my spiritual side. I like to believe that after I die my soul or whatever you want to call it, my essence, will go on an infinite journey of enlightenment. I will learn everything, see everything, hear everything, taste everything, smell everything, touch everything, etc. Yes, it sounds ridiculous, but it's my vision and I don't push it on anybody...unlike evangelical or fundamentalist religions.
I do think highly of my own belief structure. I have a friend who says that he's be a terrible person if it wasn't for his Christian beliefs. I asked him why he has such little faith in himself.
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Quote from: difleha on July 28, 2007, 06:51:50 PM
Why are you guys so stubborn? What's wrong with admitting your guilt to God?
That is a baited question, and I will not bite. Well, on second thought ... maybe I will. Which God?
Quote from: difleha on July 28, 2007, 06:51:50 PM
acknowledge him but not believe in him?
I don't "acknowledge" any God because there is not any evidence to support one.
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Quote from: difleha on July 28, 2007, 08:03:07 PM
but at
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I believe in Jesus and God.
Merely reworked pagan myths....
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Quote from: Lucky on July 26, 2007, 08:33:24 PM
I dont think humans are suposed to know...
I think we're just a stage in the evolution, and that whatever we evolve into in a few million years might understand.
we're just amoebas in the history of universe.
totaaly agree
but for me there are only two theories of our excisting:
-god really made everything (god excist)
-nature made everything (god don't excist)
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Quote from: bolton on July 29, 2007, 04:23:45 AM
Quote from: Lucky on July 26, 2007, 08:33:24 PM
I dont think humans are suposed to know...
I think we're just a stage in the evolution, and that whatever we evolve into in a few million years might understand.
we're just amoebas in the history of universe.
totaaly agree
but for me there are only two theories of our excisting:
-god really made everything (god excist)
-nature made everything? (god don't excist)
Ok, but if we exist, why do we exist? What are we here for?
- if god really made everything, what does that mean? (do we live according to theories about heaven and hell?)
- if nature made evrything, how do we fit in with nature? (law of the jungle)
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Quote from: stolat on July 29, 2007, 04:29:42 AM
Ok, but if we exist, why do we exist?
First, I must profess ignorance in matters philosophical, but why does there has to be a reason?
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Quote from: stolat on July 29, 2007, 04:29:42 AM
Ok, but if we exist, why do we exist?
First, I must profess ignorance in matters philosophical, but why does there has to be a reason?
The joy of philosophy is that the more questions you ask and the more answers you try to come up with, there will always be new questions that keep poppping up.
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Quote from: fuckin crazy on July 29, 2007, 05:46:39 AM
First, I must profess ignorance in matters philosophical, but why does there has to be a reason?
everything effect must have a cause. its called causality.
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Quote from: fuckin crazy on July 29, 2007, 05:46:39 AM
First, I must profess ignorance in matters philosophical, but why does there has to be a reason?
everything effect must have a cause. its called causality.
No, science studies cause and and effect...........philosophy is a different branch........
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Quote from: difleha on July 28, 2007, 08:03:07 PM
[Lol, that was so funny of me to say. Well, I'm not that good at proving because after all, you can't prove or disprove God, but at
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I believe in Jesus and God.
i wasnt trying to disprove God, merely point out that your belief in God is actually quite ridiculous. Its as likely as my flying spaghetti monster.
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Quote from: stolat on July 29, 2007, 06:57:14 AM
No, science studies cause and and effect...........philosophy is a different branch........
western philosophy has studied causility as far back as aristotle.
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Quote from: difleha on July 28, 2007, 08:03:07 PM
[Lol, that was so funny of me to say. Well, I'm not that good at proving because after all, you can't prove or disprove God, but at
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I believe in Jesus and God.
i wasnt trying to disprove God, merely point out that your belief in God is actually quite ridiculous. Its as likely as my flying spaghetti monster.
Philosophy should allow you to argue beyong the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Religon tries to answer what it is to be human - philosophy also looks at it without having to be judged by proven scientific concepts.
Philosophy has 7? different branches.
Some arguments such as free will vs destiny use the example of cause and effect as a possible aswer to how the world works.
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Quote from: stolat on July 29, 2007, 07:03:02 AM
Philosophy should allow you to argue beyong the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Religon tries to answer what it is to be human - philosophy also looks at it without having to be judged by proven scientific concepts.
Philosophy has 7? different branches.
Some arguments such as free will vs destiny use the example of cause and effect as a possible aswer to how the world works.
i dont mean to sound arrogant but i've studied philosophy, whats your point?
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Quote from: 2NaFish on July 29, 2007, 07:05:45 AM
Quote from: stolat on July 29, 2007, 07:03:02 AM
Philosophy should allow you to argue beyong the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Religon tries to answer what it is to be human - philosophy also looks at it without having to be judged by proven scientific concepts.
Philosophy has 7? different branches.
Some arguments such as free will vs destiny use the example of cause and effect as a possible aswer to how the world works.
i dont mean to sound arrogant but i've studied philosophy, whats your point?
Good then if you've studied philosphy then you should be open to the idea that not everything can be put down to cause and effect because that is pure science. There is an argument for free will and phenomenons. Scientific language is not always the best langauge to use when talking philosophy. The language of myticsm is also good.
Philosophy is more than a science it is also encompases the study of humanity.
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