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« on: January 17, 2006, 01:10:15 PM »

I saw a discussion about this topic in the Strokes' new album thread, and it's something that's been on my mind for a while.? People always deify Kurt Cobain, saying that he helped combine the aggression of punk with the melody of The Beatles.? But except for Nirvana's big hit singles, I think that's mostly horseshit.? If you've ever listened to a Nirvana album, you'll know that roughly half the songs on each are unbearable filler - screaming noise that's only slightly more catchy than an Anal Cunt song.

In my opinion, the REAL band that combined punk attitude with pop melodies was Oasis.? Clearly, The Beatles are one of their biggest influences.? But they have way more melody than Nirvana ever did.? Almost every song that the band writes has a relentlessly catchy tune to it.? Oasis has a bit of a punk influence, but rather than letting it overwhelm the actual songs, like Nirvana did, they incorporate it into their music so that it becomes melodic rock with an undertone of balls-out aggression.? Just compare an Oasis throwaway like "Thank You For The Good Times" to Nirvana's unbelievably shitty "Gallons of Rubbing Alcohol Flow Through The Strip".

Noel Gallagher is the REAL songwriter of the 90s.? While Nirvana released only a few albums (which were really only good for the singles), Oasis is still going strong in 2006.? As far as I'm concerned, Nirvana is a band that wrote a dozen or so incredible songs, but padded their albums with shitty filler.? It's been said before, but I'll say it again - if Cobain hadn't blew his brains out, he would have nowhere near the iconic status he enjoys today.
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2006, 02:52:43 PM »

Definitely Nirvana. Oasis are way too overrated. Firstly, Nirvana always had more energy in their music. Oasis seem very dull and boring and the Gallaghers tried far too hard to get their bad girl reputation. Kurt Cobain thought sometimes annoying was very experimental interms of his music (as shown by Unplugged 1993). Kurt Cobain had a more entertaining side to; i find him very humourous.
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2006, 05:10:33 PM »

Just compare an Oasis throwaway like "Thank You For The Good Times" to Nirvana's unbelievably shitty "Gallons of Rubbing Alcohol Flow Through The Strip".

I don't think it makes any sense to compare the B-sides. If Oasis are stupid enough to throw away an above average song, it's their problem.
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2006, 06:45:23 PM »

Wow, that's comparing two of the most terrible, overrated bands ever. It's hard to decide which one's worse. I'll say Oasis is worse because Nirvana came earlier and had a slightly more unique sound, even though both bands copied their contemporaries and dumbed down the music.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2006, 07:18:31 PM »

Oasis are by far a better band, I fuckin hate Nirvana, so overrated. Simple shitty 3 chord music the way people buy all this Cobain bullshit sickens me
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2006, 10:50:27 AM »

How the hell can u compare such different bands Huh
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2006, 03:21:42 PM »

If Oasis died in a plane crash after playing Knebworth in 96, they would have gone down in history as the greatest rock n roll band of all time. Says it all really, Nirvana are a good band, thats all.

Oasis are the band that defined the 90's.
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2006, 05:42:16 PM »

How the hell can u compare such different bands Huh

They're two of the 90s' biggest bands, but Nirvana tends to have more critical respect.  I was also comparing them on the basis of how both were reputed to combine punk attitude with pop melodies.  In my opinion, Oasis did it a lot better.  They simply have better songs, and a collectively stronger catalogue.  Nirvana also relied more on cover versions; that's pretty much what their Unplugged album was all about.

Definitely Nirvana. Oasis are way too overrated. Firstly, Nirvana always had more energy in their music. Oasis seem very dull and boring and the Gallaghers tried far too hard to get their bad girl reputation. Kurt Cobain thought sometimes annoying was very experimental interms of his music (as shown by Unplugged 1993). Kurt Cobain had a more entertaining side to; i find him very humourous.

Nirvana's live performances definitely had more energy, I'll concede that.  But in terms of the music?  Oasis's songs are both generally catchier and hard rockin'.  And if you want to talk about entertainment value offstage, it's always a good laugh to read about the Gallagher brothers getting into a brawl and having crazy drunken antics.  They're like one of the only bands these days that lives the unrepetant rock lifestyle - sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll.  Nirvana tried to destroy that image, which is one of the reasons I resent them.  Oasis kept it alive.
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2006, 08:12:02 AM »

well said mattman.
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2006, 07:44:05 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2006, 07:56:17 PM »

oasis last album destroyed any respect i had for them. it was terrible.

oasis were good but tbh i think they were the more defining in the UK. i dont think they hit the rest of the world the way nirvana did.

i like both bands but im not majorly into them.
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2006, 08:04:21 PM »


Lol funny indeed. Kinda long clip though.. they shoulda cut it in half and got straight to the beat down!

I vote for Nirvana.
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2006, 06:10:00 AM »

It's all a matter of opinion, really.  I like music that filters raw emotion - like, Nirvana - however, i also like a good melody, a simple chord progression and catchy music, much like Oasis.

I don't know what you're saying that Nirvana has "too much filler" or "relies too much on covers" because the albums Nevermind and In Utero i love mostly every track: again, all matter of opinion, and i don't think those albums had a cover on them.  (And if you're speaking about Unplugged most artists do covers on that show).

"While Nirvana released only a few albums (which were really only good for the singles), Oasis is still going strong in 2006."  Well what do you expect, Kurt Cobain died!

"It's been said before, but I'll say it again - if Cobain hadn't blew his brains out, he would have nowhere near the iconic status he enjoys today."

I'm sure if Noel Gallagher or another member of Oasis had died when they were popular they would be considered the next Beatles or something now.

However, i do agree with you on some of the things you said.

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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2006, 08:58:06 AM »

you can say whatever you want about nirvana. but you have to admit that they were a true rock n' roll band, and they lived it. we could wish that they were more bands like nirvana or guns nowadays.
the only one who is holding the rock n' roll flag right now is manson.
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2006, 09:04:51 AM »

you can say whatever you want about nirvana. but you have to admit that they were a true rock n' roll band, and they lived it. we could wish that they were more bands like nirvana or guns nowadays.
the only one who is holding the rock n' roll flag right now is manson.

nirvana were anti rock n roll. how does that make sense.
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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2006, 09:07:55 AM »

i mean their attitude was what rock n' roll is/should be about
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2006, 11:25:51 AM »

I prefer Oasis by a long way. They are one of the bands i grew up with.

Nirvana i think maybe the most overated band ever. They had some good songs but nothing to rave about the way they were.

I really think Noel doesn't get the credit he deserves mainly coz his brother is an idiot at times and they have both been labelled as the same. . . He has written some true anthems. and songs that will be around for years to come.

I think its an amazing thing to see and hear 60,000 people sing 'Don't Look Back In Anger' and 'Wonderwall' back at the band at gigs and festivals.

Oasis have had continued sucsess. And just like bands like Coldplay, U2 and no doubt the Arctic Monkeys people will always be ready to critasize but if they continue with the sucsess they have then maybe people should just have respect for them even if their not your favourite band.

Oasis brought guitar rock back in the uk
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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2006, 05:00:52 PM »

Oasis were bigger than nirvana ever did in all their carreer , even during the "nevermind" erea.
The fact is Nirvana were bigger than Oasis in the U.S, but in Europe and in the rest of the world, Oasis were more successfull than Nirvana.

"What's the story morning glory" (Oasis) sold 20 million copies. I was in high school by that time, and they were a fucking huge phenomenon! every fucking day they were getting bigger and bigger and bigger. They were the biggest band in the world. They were almost as big as GN'R 87-93 erea. that was crazy. So yeah, definitely bigger and better than Nirvana.

a fucking great video oasis video on the biggest musical TV show in France: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9gSqF0l-dw
That is Rock n' Roll! Zack (the drummer) goes nut! Oasis is a much more powerfull band than Nirvana. They sound LOUDER.
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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2006, 06:37:04 PM »

Definitely Nirvana. Oasis are way too overrated. Firstly, Nirvana always had more energy in their music. Oasis seem very dull and boring and the Gallaghers tried far too hard to get their bad girl reputation. Kurt Cobain thought sometimes annoying was very experimental interms of his music (as shown by Unplugged 1993). Kurt Cobain had a more entertaining side to; i find him very humourous.

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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2006, 06:57:39 PM »

Oasis wrote "Master Plan" and "Talk Tonight". They win.
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