Axl will speak wrong about Chavez in Venezuela?

[Mysterious_Guy]

GNR will play in Venezuela this year, axl?s been there before but things have been getting more and more scary between Bush and Chavez so what will axl express about? everyone knows he likes to speak about politicians and philosophy, he never shuts up because of fears, he's not afraid of telling his mind everywhere he goes so i guess Venezuelan and USA will have another new scandal made by this cute Yankee rock star!

Come on Axl, you rule! Let us know what you think about that Hispanic country!?

[mrbrownstone8797]

He didn't speak about things like that during the '06 tour...why would he suddenly start in a situation that actually could put his safety at risk?

[GeraldFord]

If Axl never had anything to say about Iraq, Bush/Cheney, Kerry, why would he speak about Chavez?

[Mysterious_Guy]

He didn't speak about things like that during the '06 tour...why would he suddenly start in a situation that actually could put his safety at risk?

at risk? he's rich and famous to run away from Chavez and Bush so you should think before telling something

[GeraldFord]

He didn't speak about things like that during the '06 tour...why would he suddenly start in a situation that actually could put his safety at risk?

It's not like GN'R are playing in Iran...

Most of the press in Venezuela  is very anti-Chavez and there have been huge demonstrations against him. Even if Axl did say something negative, it's not like he'd go to prison.

[axlrosegnr]

Axl may rant a lot, but it's never been overly political

[Jackamo!]

Nothing.

The best thing Axl ever said was before they played Live & Let Die at the House Of Blues 2001 show.

[Count Fluffy]

I don't believe there is anything political to be said about GNR playing in Venezuela.  Concerts are set up for band promotion and money for both the band and the promoter/facilities.  As it is such a business deal, I don't see why anyone would speak out about politics while performing there. 

[Natasha23]

I think Axl chooses his words very carefully, and he understands what it is to be a guest in someone else's country.  I don't think there is anything to worry about. 

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Axl does not really get on the soapbox at concerts and talk about his political views. I like that. Why make people who dont agree feel somewhat alienated.

I dont like Chavez either, but I dont think Axl will say anything about him.

[Axlrose4eva]

are people sure GNR is playing in Venezuela, im pretty sure this comes from a very unconfirmed source.  Still, I dont think Axl really thinks a lot about what he says, but he's never had very much to say about politicians.  Thats not what GNR has been about and its a stupid thing to preach about.

[Tommie]

If Axl never had anything to say about Iraq, Bush/Cheney, Kerry, why would he speak about Chavez?

Very true, if he didnt have something to say about it during the tour (and come on, even if your a republican you know what i mean) I highly doubt he will say anything now.  But stranger things have happened.

[cpaxlvacy]

I think that we have to wait if GNR play in our country first, it's just a rumour, and i'm fucking praying tey come, can't wait to see them, i rememeber when they came in 1992 Axl was jocking about the political situation of our country, so, maybe who knows...

[Randy Jesus]

Chavez is trying to fill the soon to be void from Castro in the Americas. He is trying to get noticed but Iran and Korea keep on out doing him. I wouldn't put it past him to try to hold Axl hostage. Of course America and the Redneck President wouldn't do a damn thing because we don't dicker and deal with terrorists. Then the Democratic party would use it as a cause to gain more power, but in the end will do nothing because they really don't care.

Back to reality, I would love Axl to cause a riot before he leaves that country that takes down Capitan Insano Chavez. 

[PJ]

well capitan insano chavez is supported by the 62% of the venezuelans..
so after that i dont think he is too bad for his country.. cuz he keep winning elections.. and there is no fraud..

[Loaded NightraiN]

Chavez is trying to fill the soon to be void from Castro in the Americas. He is trying to get noticed but Iran and Korea keep on out doing him. I wouldn't put it past him to try to hold Axl hostage. Of course America and the Redneck President wouldn't do a damn thing because we don't dicker and deal with terrorists. Then the Democratic party would use it as a cause to gain more power, but in the end will do nothing because they really don't care.

Back to reality, I would love Axl to cause a riot before he leaves that country that takes down Capitan Insano Chavez.?

Good post ?

I dobut Axl would want to make enemies... Plus what could he say that isint already known??

[Booker Floyd]

I guess the countdown to when Axl Rose Ven will be banned again is on.

[gunsnfnroses]

He didn't speak about things like that during the '06 tour

Exactly.

He won't say a thing!

[Danny]

Stupidest thread ever.

[Randy Jesus]

Stupidest thread ever.

I have to disagree with you, there is a million way tie for the stupidest thread. Each one that was copied and pasted on every GNR forum about something stupid takes it. This is a runner up until I see it on another forum.

[Randy Jesus]

well capitan insano chavez is supported by the 62% of the venezuelans..
so after that i dont think he is too bad for his country.. cuz he keep winning elections.. and there is no fraud..

Its called nationalism. Hitler used it the same way to gain power from his people.

[estebanf]

I strongly think there are more reasons to talk bad things about Bush than about Chavez.

And I didnt hear Axl talking shit about Bush this year... 

Venezuela RULES! Best women in the world  (and Im not from Venezuela)

motherland, socialism or death 

[Satapher]

Chavez can suck my dick and lick my ass

[SLCPUNK]

Chavez can suck my dick and lick my ass

Woah...let's all calm down here.

[estebanf]

well capitan insano chavez is supported by the 62% of the venezuelans..
so after that i dont think he is too bad for his country.. cuz he keep winning elections.. and there is no fraud..

Its called nationalism. Hitler used it the same way to gain power from his people.

You cant compare the way Chavez reached the executive branch with Hitler dude... Chavez is not making soap with the people who dont think like him... I think you went too far with that unfortunate comparison. Do not confuse TERROR with voluntary nationalism.

Do you know how democracies work? 62% of the venezuelans elected him in a clean ballot process

[SLCPUNK]

well capitan insano chavez is supported by the 62% of the venezuelans..
so after that i dont think he is too bad for his country.. cuz he keep winning elections.. and there is no fraud..

Its called nationalism. Hitler used it the same way to gain power from his people.

You cant compare the way Chavez reached the executive branch with Hitler dude... Chavez is not making soap with the people who dont think like him...

Do you know how democracies work? 62% of the venezuelans elected him in a clean ballot process

Certain people only like democracy if they agree with the outcome. If not then they label it as something else.

[Danny]

Certain people only like democracy if they agree with the outcome. If not then they label it as something else.

I feel like a d-bag even posting on this thread since it's going to be deleted soon anyway (hopefully).  However, I've got to admit that this was the smartest thing (read: only smart thing) I've ever seen you post around here SLC.    Good job.



Danny

[estebanf]

well capitan insano chavez is supported by the 62% of the venezuelans..
so after that i dont think he is too bad for his country.. cuz he keep winning elections.. and there is no fraud..

Its called nationalism. Hitler used it the same way to gain power from his people.

You cant compare the way Chavez reached the executive branch with Hitler dude... Chavez is not making soap with the people who dont think like him...

Do you know how democracies work? 62% of the venezuelans elected him in a clean ballot process

Certain people only like democracy if they agree with the outcome. If not then they label it as something else.

sad but true

[RitzWalker8]

Worst thread ever!!!

[Loaded NightraiN]

Worst thread ever!!!

Thank you for your contribution 

[Edward Rose]

If he's gonna say anything, I think he would rant about Bush and the war. But he's kept politics out of the shows since 2006.

If ANYONE is gonna get political it'll be Baz if he's opening.

Baz @ Sheffield
"I have a message for George Bush. ' NO MORE WAR!'"

[Axlrose4eva]

well capitan insano chavez is supported by the 62% of the venezuelans..
so after that i dont think he is too bad for his country.. cuz he keep winning elections.. and there is no fraud..

Its called nationalism. Hitler used it the same way to gain power from his people.

You cant compare the way Chavez reached the executive branch with Hitler dude... Chavez is not making soap with the people who dont think like him... I think you went too far with that unfortunate comparison. Do not confuse TERROR with voluntary nationalism.

Do you know how democracies work? 62% of the venezuelans elected him in a clean ballot process

Most bullshit comment ever.  First of all the European union refused to recognize the elections from the get go because they said Chavez was setting up unfair elections.  Second of all non partisan voter watch programs all said the electoral process was rigged.  By the way whats going on with the 6 year term limits venezuela has, apparently chavez hasnt figured out that 25 is more than 6.  Also I doubt that so many of the middle class would protest Chavez' administration and how they dont prosecute crimes or provide hospitals etc... Also to say that Bush is worse than Chavez, i really hope youre not an American because id be pretty embarassed of American education systems.  You do realize Chavez accepted a medal from Iran for his help in their nuclear weapons program.  Theres a reason they tell people not to stop a stop lights in Caracas, and its not because of lack of traffic.

[gandra]

well i am not a supporter for bush politics,but also i think chavez is one cheep and bad comunistics leader.

i know what can politicars like chavez can do?
2001 with revolution we (in serbia) changed one man like him and one politica  like them

[Lucky]

^that must have been fun

[pollyblue]

axl won't say shit about it. do you think that your country is so important that axl is gonna study his history about it and the relationship with the usa ? then i guess he has to do that for every country we're they're gonna play when they tour.

[Wooody]

well capitan insano chavez is supported by the 62% of the venezuelans..
so after that i dont think he is too bad for his country.. cuz he keep winning elections.. and there is no fraud..

Its called nationalism. Hitler used it the same way to gain power from his people.

You cant compare the way Chavez reached the executive branch with Hitler dude... Chavez is not making soap with the people who dont think like him... I think you went too far with that unfortunate comparison. Do not confuse TERROR with voluntary nationalism.

Do you know how democracies work? 62% of the venezuelans elected him in a clean ballot process

Most bullshit comment ever.? First of all the European union refused to recognize the elections from the get go because they said Chavez was setting up unfair elections.? Second of all non partisan voter watch programs all said the electoral process was rigged.? By the way whats going on with the 6 year term limits venezuela has, apparently chavez hasnt figured out that 25 is more than 6.? Also I doubt that so many of the middle class would protest Chavez' administration and how they dont prosecute crimes or provide hospitals etc... Also to say that Bush is worse than Chavez, i really hope youre not an American because id be pretty embarassed of American education systems.? You do realize Chavez accepted a medal from Iran for his help in their nuclear weapons program.? Theres a reason they tell people not to stop a stop lights in Caracas, and its not because of lack of traffic.

Most bullshit comment ever? I think yours tops it.
Not only Chavez reached power the legal way but he has made referendums on every occasion to see if he has the support from the people. I wonder what would happen if Bush called for a referendum on a few issues?
Chavez was kidnapped by the opposition (U.S. supported opposition) and he was brought back to power how? Because the PEOPLE went on a rally to protest the kidnapping, asking for their elect president to return !
If you label Chavez as a dictator, when in the history of this world have you seen the people taking matters into their own hands to have their 'dictator' brought back into power?

Yes there are crimes in Venezuela, yes the educational system is poor, yes there is a huge gap between the poor and the rich. Welcome to the third world, this is what Chavez is changing , he is trying to reverse what decades of foreign investment and exploitation have achieved in Venezuela: Oil for the rich, nothing for the poor, this is where the source of poverty in Venezuela is found.
AS for not stopping on redlights in Caracas? Ha ! in every country from Mexico to Argentina it is better not to stop, but strangely enough I don't see people talking about other countries where the opposition to the U.S? is not as strong as in Venezuela.

[HBK]

Chavez, Who ?

HBK *

[Jim Bob]

i find this thread shocking.

[SLCPUNK]

Shocking?

[Axlrose4eva]

well capitan insano chavez is supported by the 62% of the venezuelans..
so after that i dont think he is too bad for his country.. cuz he keep winning elections.. and there is no fraud..

Its called nationalism. Hitler used it the same way to gain power from his people.

You cant compare the way Chavez reached the executive branch with Hitler dude... Chavez is not making soap with the people who dont think like him... I think you went too far with that unfortunate comparison. Do not confuse TERROR with voluntary nationalism.

Do you know how democracies work? 62% of the venezuelans elected him in a clean ballot process

Most bullshit comment ever.? First of all the European union refused to recognize the elections from the get go because they said Chavez was setting up unfair elections.? Second of all non partisan voter watch programs all said the electoral process was rigged.? By the way whats going on with the 6 year term limits venezuela has, apparently chavez hasnt figured out that 25 is more than 6.? Also I doubt that so many of the middle class would protest Chavez' administration and how they dont prosecute crimes or provide hospitals etc... Also to say that Bush is worse than Chavez, i really hope youre not an American because id be pretty embarassed of American education systems.? You do realize Chavez accepted a medal from Iran for his help in their nuclear weapons program.? Theres a reason they tell people not to stop a stop lights in Caracas, and its not because of lack of traffic.

Most bullshit comment ever? I think yours tops it.
Not only Chavez reached power the legal way but he has made referendums on every occasion to see if he has the support from the people. I wonder what would happen if Bush called for a referendum on a few issues?
Chavez was kidnapped by the opposition (U.S. supported opposition) and he was brought back to power how? Because the PEOPLE went on a rally to protest the kidnapping, asking for their elect president to return !
If you label Chavez as a dictator, when in the history of this world have you seen the people taking matters into their own hands to have their 'dictator' brought back into power?

Yes there are crimes in Venezuela, yes the educational system is poor, yes there is a huge gap between the poor and the rich. Welcome to the third world, this is what Chavez is changing , he is trying to reverse what decades of foreign investment and exploitation have achieved in Venezuela: Oil for the rich, nothing for the poor, this is where the source of poverty in Venezuela is found.
AS for not stopping on redlights in Caracas? Ha ! in every country from Mexico to Argentina it is better not to stop, but strangely enough I don't see people talking about other countries where the opposition to the U.S? is not as strong as in Venezuela.

haha the legal way, he tried to gain power with a military coup in 1992, unfortunately he didnt realize that 25 armed supporters wasnt enough for a military coup.  Im not familiar with Venezualan politics, but since when are military coups legal?

Bush would pass every referendum if he had armed soldiers in the voting booth with the voters.

I wonder how Axl would feel if he owned a home in Venezuala and Chavez decided to take it to give it to one of his friends, Chavez has enacted his own personal right to emminent domain many times in Venezuala.

So I see you dont mention the fact that the elections were deemed rigged by the EU.  The fact that he accepted a medal for helping Iran build a nuclear weapon or the fact that he donates no money to hospitals. 

Dictators actually tend to be quite popular, you obviously dont know your history.  From Julius Caesar to Hitler and Mussolini, to Stalin and Il.  Dictators tend to gain power because they appeal to the poorest people and the army. You can appease 51% of the people and still commit crimes against 49%. 

[ronie]

What a stupid topic, I just can't believe it...Are you fcukin' out of your mind, Axl has nothing to do with the president of Venecuela...Get a life for fcuk sake, do something instead of starting such shit threads...

[Ignatius]

Just by reading the subject this thread looked bad...

It got worse.

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