Will Axl's voice be enhanced on Chinese Democracy?

[mikegiuliana]

I think everyone sounds good in studio releases.. Live shows are the way to go...

[ppbebe]

I say. I think it?s enhanced.
Unlike other singers, he can sing in various tones of voice.
I presume he practises plenty of daily vocal exercises and occasionally on his way to training he stumbles on a new vocalization.
He must have gained a greater variety of tones and demonstrated some of them in 2002.?

[younggunner]

As long as he sounds like the version of SCOM on Big Daddy and the way he sounded on the new clips on the BOston promos ill be more than happy. But Im sure there will be some effects added to his vocals with the new material. It will be a lil of everythign i think

[D]

Axl sounded so raspy on the illusion tour cause his voice was shot

listen to the afd album axl's voice is close to that now.

its clean and clear.

he has found out a way to develop a live voice that doesnt injure his throat but on the cd i think he will have the same voice as ever.

Most artist do develop a way to sing live that isnt so hard on their voice because singing the style axl sings and for the length of time he was forced too.

I remember reading a Kurt Cobain article where the doctor told him he needed to see a vocal coach to stop destroying his throat and to learn to sing properly

i think this is what axl had to do.

Studio singing isnt taxing on your vocals cause u can take your time, sing line by line, use a computer to help certain spots so u dont have to murder your voice

Im confident axl will not disappoint

his opening WTTJ vma scream and his LALD screams prove he has it when he wants it but just sung properly to not injure his voice.

[Gunner80]

Axl sounded so raspy on the illusion tour cause his voice was shot

listen to the afd album axl's voice is close to that now.

its clean and clear.

he has found out a way to develop a live voice that doesnt injure his throat but on the cd i think he will have the same voice as ever.

Most artist do develop a way to sing live that isnt so hard on their voice because singing the style axl sings and for the length of time he was forced too.

I remember reading a Kurt Cobain article where the doctor told him he needed to see a vocal coach to stop destroying his throat and to learn to sing properly

i think this is what axl had to do.

Studio singing isnt taxing on your vocals cause u can take your time, sing line by line, use a computer to help certain spots so u dont have to murder your voice

Im confident axl will not disappoint

his opening WTTJ vma scream and his LALD screams prove he has it when he wants it but just sung properly to not injure his voice.

Axl had professional vocal training. Gloria Bennett was his coach.

[Sterlingdog]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Axl have surgery in the early 90's to correct damage to his vocal cords?  Its my understanding that many singers don't sound quite the same after that. 

[axlholic09]

LIKE MICHAEL JACKSON

[Smoking Guns]

That nighttrain clip is the best i have heard of him.  also, i thing some of the latter shows of the illusions tour, 93, were some of the band's best.  But anyway, his voice sounds killer in that clip.  It was classic Axl.

[oneway23]

I've never understood the debate over axl's voice on the '02 tour....he had off nights like any other vocallist who endures the rigors of a live performance, yet overall I thought he sounded phenomenal....a tad different, but fantastic all the same...Nothing that can't be attributed to age, rust,  or general wear.....As far as studio recordings go, it's just standard fare these days that artists use pro-tools rigs or pitch equalizers of some sort....This might rub some folks the wrong way, but the artist presents a painting as a finished product...who cares  about any "tricks" that may have been used?  In the end, you're only going to see the end result as the artist  intends anyhow...With regard to demos, if we have the good fortune to hear them one day, and they happen to sound awful in relation to the CD, well, then we can bicker.....somehow, i doubt it....

[BaDoBsEsSiOn418]

OK, I guess you guys are right.  I don't know...I guess I haven't heard as much of the '02 tour as others, and maybe the VMAs left an impression in my mind.  I'm sure Axl won't disappoint =)

[oneway23]

That's a huge issue for GNR right now and their future success....the fact that, much like yourself, the VMA's left a bad taste in many people's mouths...one solid single, I suspect, will clear that right up...

[D]

u cant judge a perfomer on live vocals though.

imagine if we judged axl on the illusion tour, some nights were pretty bad but we heard him on the cd so we understood.

i dont think it will be any different now.

you have to realize he hadnt toured in 8 years or so, u cant just start shredding your voice, im sure he was building it back up and shakin off the rust. Plus while still recording i guarantee he wasnt gonna do anything crazy to fuck his cords up.

he was clearer and much higher though than any other time i can ever remember him being.

[grog mug]

It's hard waiting this long, ecspecially when I go back to the nights in Vegas and Columbus and hearing Axl on top of his game both nights.  When did he have an off night in 2002?  I don't recall any gig where he sounded bad, maybe out of breath at the VMA's but when he wanted to sing and could hear himself he sounded GREAT.

[estranged.1098]

btw, you can download some stuff from newgnr.com regarding Axl's new voice:

- SCOM from Big Daddy;
- studio clips (7s of The Blues, Madagascar and Chinese Democracy);
- and a part of Rocket Queen from Live Era, which many people claim is Axl's new voice.

[Smoking Guns]

The last part of Rocket Queen from Live Era is new Axl for sure.  It is so clean.  It does sound bad ass.  If there is a song where is voice is different, and for the worse, it is definitely Paradise City.  No real grit/power/growl in his voice from the shows that I have seen.  The two shows I saw were still phenomenal none the less.

[IndiannaRose]

The last part of Rocket Queen from Live Era is new Axl for sure.

The whole song was re-recorded. Axl sounds excellent on that re-recorded track, and if he sounds anything like that on Chinese Democracy then I'll be extremely happy.

[Smoking Guns]

Are you sure about the whole song?  That is nuts if you are right.  I think it sounded great in the Tokyo version.  What we really need is a DVD of Live at the Ritz 88 to go along with the 92 Tokyo Vids and maybe the Vegas Videos from the Hard Rock to fully break down the major change in his voice.  Ha!

[IndiannaRose]

Are you sure about the whole song?? That is nuts if you are right.? I think it sounded great in the Tokyo version.? What we really need is a DVD of Live at the Ritz 88 to go along with the 92 Tokyo Vids and maybe the Vegas Videos from the Hard Rock to fully break down the major change in his voice.? Ha!

I'm totally sure. I have about 3,000 live audio files from the band all the way from the early 80s to 2002. I can pretty much tell what tracks Axl re-recorded in Live Era. There is not one live show I have where Axl has the same tone, pitch, and amount of rasp as he did in Live Era. Actually the beauty of Axl's voice (and all the cocaine, cigarettes, and alcohol he consumed) is that he pretty much sounded different on every show of the band's carreer. He was/is a very dynamic singer so it is not that hard to tell of what era certain sound clips of his were recorded on. There were other tracks re-recorded in Live Era as well but I won't go into that unless the subject really wants to be spoken about.

[Smoking Guns]

Let me guess, Estranged is the main one....  3,000 is a lot.  Yup, it is not hard to tell the era at all.  I would still love to have a DVD version of the 88 Ritz Show.  It is the definitive Guns show, that I have seen anyway.  My VHS version is just so shitty.  But I agree.  Axl's voice was different a lot of the times.  I think that is what made it so great and unique.

[ClintroN]

fuck yeah, cool clip