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« on: March 19, 2006, 08:15:59 PM »

Hey..will CD be out befor the tour starts?? I say it has to be for guns to succeed..Why do bands tour?? to promote an album and increase sales??If they tour without an album and play new songs they will be all over the net and that will hurt sales alot.
Last time they played RIO they said they would be back next year with a heap of new songs ect.. but they had to cancell because of Buckethead ..So this year when they play Rio i think the Album will be out....and they will play new songs ,If its not out there doomed.. Huh Sorry for rambling....any thoughts??
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2006, 08:17:44 PM »

No way will it come out before the tour starts.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2006, 08:18:36 PM »

and a good thing is that Axl is a man of his word...
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2006, 08:21:46 PM »

and a good thing is that Axl is a man of his word...

yes, it will be out... soon?
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2006, 08:36:34 PM »

Nope. that's what the "leaked" demos were for. the band put them out there so that they could play new material that was familiar to the fans. The albums not coming out any time soon. At least that's my opinion. Hoefully I'm wrong.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2006, 08:39:11 PM »

We'd be very lucky if an official release date was announced before the tour starts.
Hell... I don't even need the exact date just telling us the year it will be out would do.
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2006, 08:41:05 PM »

CD will be the greatest masterpiece in music  H I S T O R Y  ok and it will come out soon, despite what tastless and mindless retards with no proof have to say. peace
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2006, 08:43:17 PM »

We'd be very lucky if an official release date was announced before the tour starts.
Hell... I don't even need the exact date just telling us the year it will be out would do.

We would be lucky. But official release dates can get pushed back too, you know.
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2006, 08:45:17 PM »

I don't think you'll see it till after europe
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2006, 08:46:36 PM »

Last time they played RIO they said they would be back next year with a heap of new songs ect..

They'll not be playing Rio this time, it's in Lisbon.
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2006, 08:47:20 PM »

CD will be the greatest masterpiece in music? H I S T O R Y? ok and it will come out soon, despite what tastless and mindless retards with no proof have to say. peace

$20 says it wont come out this year.
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2006, 08:57:16 PM »

I just hope we see it soon.
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2006, 08:59:11 PM »

i wish that too, but im so use to getting my hopes up with gnr, only to have them be shattered.

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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2006, 09:06:40 PM »

CD will be the greatest masterpiece in music? H I S T O R Y? ok and it will come out soon, despite what tastless and mindless retards with no proof have to say. peace

do you have a proof to say that?..or you are one mindless retard saying the opposite ?
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2006, 09:08:14 PM »

CD will be the greatest masterpiece in music? H I S T O R Y? ok and it will come out soon, despite what tastless and mindless retards with no proof have to say. peace

$20 says it wont come out this year.

He never said it would. "You'll hear music this year" is a way to avoid the question, but give hope to people. He's painting a pretty picture on it. He could have just meant we'll hear new music on tour...
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2006, 09:14:34 PM »

Guns toured for almost 5 months before the illusion records came out. I'd imagine the record will be out before the tour, cuz Axl has been protecting these new songs for wayyyyyyyyy to long to have someone bootleg all of them and sell them on ebay for rediculous prices, while he makes nothing.
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2006, 09:18:14 PM »

I hope Axl or Merck just read that.  Great point ok
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2006, 09:22:01 PM »

No, I don't think it will be out before the tour.
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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2006, 09:29:00 PM »

itll be out during the euro tour.
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2006, 09:54:11 PM »

CD will be the greatest masterpiece in music? H I S T O R Y? ok and it will come out soon, despite what tastless and mindless retards with no proof have to say. peace

do you have a proof to say that?..or you are one mindless retard saying the opposite ?

Axl said so, and he means more than just tour with "people will hear music this year".

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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2006, 09:58:39 PM »

I think we'll at least hear something before Europe starts.   I find it hard to believe that Axl's popping up all over NYC for the past month for no reason at all.   Isn't that where Merck's office and Sterling Sound are?

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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2006, 10:03:38 PM »

CD will be the greatest masterpiece in music? H I S T O R Y? ok and it will come out soon, despite what tastless and mindless retards with no proof have to say. peace

do you have a proof to say that?..or you are one mindless retard saying the opposite ?

Axl said so, and he means more than just tour with "people will hear music this year".

Dont get smart on me Debby...go eat your cookies now. Kiss

i can get smart on you and eat my cookies at the same time asshole, you are not the smartest one

ohh..and insulting me via PM...too smart!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2006, 10:59:07 PM »

CD will be the greatest masterpiece in music? H I S T O R Y? ok and it will come out soon, despite what tastless and mindless retards with no proof have to say. peace

do you have a proof to say that?..or you are one mindless retard saying the opposite ?

Axl said so, and he means more than just tour with "people will hear music this year".

Dont get smart on me Debby...go eat your cookies now. Kiss

i can get smart on you and eat my cookies at the same time asshole, you are not the smartest one

ohh..and insulting me via PM...too smart!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2006, 11:35:29 PM »

CD will be the greatest masterpiece in music? H I S T O R Y? ok and it will come out soon, despite what tastless and mindless retards with no proof have to say. peace

do you have a proof to say that?..or you are one mindless retard saying the opposite ?

Axl said so, and he means more than just tour with "people will hear music this year".

Dont get smart on me Debby...go eat your cookies now. Kiss

i can get smart on you and eat my cookies at the same time asshole, you are not the smartest one

ohh..and insulting me via PM...too smart!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2006, 11:49:46 PM »

CD will be the greatest masterpiece in music? H I S T O R Y? ok and it will come out soon, despite what tastless and mindless retards with no proof have to say. peace

do you have a proof to say that?..or you are one mindless retard saying the opposite ?

Axl said so, and he means more than just tour with "people will hear music this year".

Dont get smart on me Debby...go eat your cookies now. Kiss

i can get smart on you and eat my cookies at the same time asshole, you are not the smartest one

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It tastes good, don't it?
It tastes good, and you know it


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« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2006, 01:10:09 AM »

Nope. that's what the "leaked" demos were for. the band put them out there so that they could play new material that was familiar to the fans. The albums not coming out any time soon. At least that's my opinion. Hoefully I'm wrong.

I think you're wrong about the motives of the leaks being for the european tour, but i do agree it's a longshot that CD will be released this year.

My belief is that the leaks were done by the record company as another attempt to force axl into a release just as the GH's were done around the same time last year.  I think this is a final warning shot to axl, put the album out or we'll expose the whole thing.  Maybe the compromise is the Euro tour to redeem money the same way GH did last year.

If the European tour is the 2002 tour part deux (appetite UYI with a CD sprinkle) then shame on anyone for buying tickets to the same bullshit show he's put on for the last 5 years.

I think another window is shutting fast and that if management and Axl don't jump on the buzz that's been created in the past month they'll lose another big opportunity to get this monstrosity to the public.  THe Euro tour is not going to creat buzz in the place he needs it most, the US. 

They need to set and announce a release date very soon.  If you don't believe me, look at the lame threads on this board lately that have nothing to do with CD.  People are already moving past the excitement of the leaks.
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« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2006, 03:05:58 AM »



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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2006, 05:51:21 AM »

Maybe a release between the European and US tours?!
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« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2006, 12:05:43 PM »

I just don't get the marketing strategy.  Why does he think it's better to tour BEFORE the album?Huh
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« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2006, 12:38:13 PM »

will it ever be released?? Cry
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« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2006, 12:41:53 PM »

will it ever be released?? Cry

so far honestly to do teh shows they are doing it seems like even if cd didn't come out it would still go very well..

If axl swung by nyc every five years and played me the past catalog I would go see em...
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« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2006, 12:44:04 PM »

announcement in ?the next 2 weeks :

-single & video in late april
-beginning of the tour in late may
-album drops around "Rio"
-late june second single
-US dates in late july
-october 3rd single combined with a DVD of RIR
-december : second album
-late december: even the latest asshole in the music business has recognized that the King is back peace
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« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2006, 12:46:03 PM »

announcement in ?the next 2 weeks :

-single & video in late april
-beginning of the tour in late may
-album drops around "Rio"
-late june second single
-US dates in late july
-october 3rd single combined with a DVD of RIR
-december : second album
-late december: even the latest asshole in the music business has recognized that the King is back peace

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« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2006, 12:47:32 PM »

announcement in ?the next 2 weeks :

-single & video in late april
-beginning of the tour in late may
-album drops around "Rio"
-late june second single
-US dates in late july
-october 3rd single combined with a DVD of RIR
-december : second album
-late december: even the latest asshole in the music business has recognized that the King is back peace

Are these your thoughts or do you know something?
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« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2006, 12:48:57 PM »

I dont see the album coming around RIO, I think a better chance is around late june. They also are not going to release 2 albums in one year.
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« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2006, 12:52:37 PM »

announcement in ?the next 2 weeks :

-single & video in late april
-beginning of the tour in late may
-album drops around "Rio"
-late june second single
-US dates in late july
-october 3rd single combined with a DVD of RIR
-december : second album
-late december: even the latest asshole in the music business has recognized that the King is back peace

Are these your thoughts or do you know something?




pure speculation and dreaming......

sorry didn't mean to wake up any hopes or something.
That would be the way i 'd do it.... no
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« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2006, 12:53:57 PM »

announcement in ?the next 2 weeks :

-single & video in late april
-beginning of the tour in late may
-album drops around "Rio"
-late june second single
-US dates in late july
-october 3rd single combined with a DVD of RIR
-december : second album
-late december: even the latest asshole in the music business has recognized that the King is back peace

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pure speculation and dreaming......

sorry didn't mean to wake up any hopes or something.
That would be the way i 'd do it.... no

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« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2006, 01:16:09 PM »

will it ever be released?? Cry

so far honestly to do teh shows they are doing it seems like even if cd didn't come out it would still go very well..

If axl swung by nyc every five years and played me the past catalog I would go see em...

So would I, but only in NYC, as if he didn't show up, there would be plenty of places to go until the wee hours of the morning
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« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2006, 07:04:10 PM »

Axl don't need Chinese Democracy... he just need someone to fuck him up and then we all have distraction for a long time

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« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2006, 07:17:13 PM »

im not sure whether to laugh or not?
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« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2006, 07:19:37 PM »

If Axl aint careful people are really going to start to not give a fucking shit whether it comes out or not.....
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« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2006, 07:21:10 PM »

will it ever be released?? Cry

so far honestly to do teh shows they are doing it seems like even if cd didn't come out it would still go very well..

If axl swung by nyc every five years and played me the past catalog I would go see em...

So would I, but only in NYC, as if he didn't show up, there would be plenty of places to go until the wee hours of the morning


I know for sure I would definitly see them anytime they come to NYC. HELL FUCKIN YEAH!
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« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2006, 07:25:25 PM »

I think we'll at least hear something before Europe starts.? ?I find it hard to believe that Axl's popping up all over NYC for the past month for no reason at all.? ?Isn't that where Merck's office and Sterling Sound are?

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« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2006, 07:51:52 PM »

Even he sid we will hear some music this year and i hope that means before the tour dates Grin
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« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2006, 08:04:01 PM »

All the public appearances, brief, cryptic statements ("new music this year"), and leaked songs have done is get my hopes up.? If nothing comes of all this, I'll be disappointed and bitter once again.? Here's hoping, though...
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« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2006, 08:07:01 PM »

O well it just makes us want it more i know its frusterating but it shows its done by the leaks
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« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2006, 12:57:16 AM »

Maybe Axl, in person, will tell us the release date at the first concert. 

I wonder if that would make the crowd riot. 
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« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2006, 02:26:12 AM »

Why would they riot over something like that??

"OH NO! He's actually gonna release the album! We gotta stop it by trashing this place..."??
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« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2006, 06:54:15 PM »

Why would they riot over something like that??

"OH NO! He's actually gonna release the album! We gotta stop it by trashing this place..."??

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I meant something more like the crowd getting really riled up, in a positive way.? Riot's not the right word, in retrospect.
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« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2006, 12:17:06 AM »

The album will be awesome
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« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2006, 12:18:02 AM »

The album will be awesome

Haha, you don't need to say that more than once.   Cool
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« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2006, 07:42:05 AM »

Axl don't need Chinese Democracy... he just need someone to fuck him up and then we all have distraction for a long time

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« Reply #52 on: March 22, 2006, 07:46:41 AM »

If Axl aint careful people are really going to start to not give a fucking shit whether it comes out or not.....


You're right, I'm begining to be pissed off of that situation. It looks as if he's laughting at us, moreover in my opinion the leaks aren't as good as I expected.... I'm sorry to say that but at the moment I prefer Velvet Revolver
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« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2006, 07:53:49 AM »

After Europe and before the States.
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« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2006, 08:12:37 AM »

If Axl aint careful people are really going to start to not give a fucking shit whether it comes out or not.....

alot of people don't give a shit, more so than people that actualy do
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« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2006, 08:51:23 AM »

My bets:

1) Announcement next monday (2 months before RIR);
2) Single in the second week of april (3 weeks from now, 6 weeks from RIR);
3) Album shortly after RIR (maybe that 06/06/06 theory is not so wrong).
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« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2006, 08:53:16 AM »

My bets:

1) Announcement next monday (2 months before RIR);
2) Single in the second week of april (3 weeks from now, 6 weeks from RIR);
3) Album shortly after RIR (maybe that 06/06/06 theory is not so wrong).


Sounds like a plan there  ok  I'd say an announcement would be a closer to RIR though.. and a single also closer to the start of the tour.. maybe even one or two into it.
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« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2006, 09:37:48 AM »

Aye, This year is damn wicked. Five doublets ie 4/4, 6/6, 8/8, 10/10, 12/12 are all Tuesday. peace

No way will it come out before the tour starts.

So you're sure of the tour starting before cd comes out, beyond the shadow of a doubt. Good.  Tongue
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« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2006, 02:53:21 PM »

lol wouldnt that be a stupid decision because then we will get a bunch of crappy live songs im sick of live I WANT STUDIO  crying sorry .... im cool smoking
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