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« on: May 05, 2006, 02:26:52 PM »

This isn't supposed to be a "will Slash be there" type of thread, just a general question of whether you wil be bummed if it is only Finck and Fortus.

For the life of me I can't figure out how they could play without a 3rd guy, as any new music had three guitarists on it when it was written we are lead to believe. Not to mention that neither Finck nor Fortus can handle Slash or Buckethead's solos in a way that does them justice. Not to say they aren't solid players, but neither fall into that category of "special" the way Slash or Bucket.

I just fear that a concert with just the 2 of them will be a little underwhelming, as I can't imagine how Robin would play the nightrain solo, or the final part of PC, or even Buckethead's TWAT or IRS solos (assuming they play some new stuff).

Let's all keep our fingers crossed we don't have to worry about this come next weekend.
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2006, 02:33:21 PM »

I won't care either way.? If it's "only" Finck and Fortus, then that means that Axl has confidence that they'll get the job done.? That's good enough for me.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2006, 02:37:15 PM »

I wont mind at all. If anything it will mean the songs we heard demos of will most likely have been reworked and sound fresh again when CD is finally released
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2006, 02:38:55 PM »

This isn't supposed to be a "will Slash be there" type of thread, just a general question of whether you wil be bummed if it is only Finck and Fortus.

For the life of me I can't figure out how they could play without a 3rd guy, as any new music had three guitarists on it when it was written we are lead to believe. Not to mention that neither Finck nor Fortus can handle Slash or Buckethead's solos in a way that does them justice. Not to say they aren't solid players, but neither fall into that category of "special" the way Slash or Bucket.

I just fear that a concert with just the 2 of them will be a little underwhelming, as I can't imagine how Robin would play the nightrain solo, or the final part of PC, or even Buckethead's TWAT or IRS solos (assuming they play some new stuff).

Let's all keep our fingers crossed we don't have to worry about this come next weekend.

You know Robin can shred right? Listen to his ghost of mars songs that he is on. Also, most of TWAT is played by Robin and not BH, BH only has that really fast solo but I think Robin could handle it just fine. As for the night train solo, fortus would probably do that. And the BH IRS solo IMO was not that great the robin solo is much better.
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2006, 02:40:21 PM »

I personally would like to see Robin and Richard do it themselves  ok  I'm sure whatever Captian A has in store for us will be good stuff  smoking
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2006, 02:40:46 PM »

I'm with that people who thinks two guitars are ok... and three are indeed too much. smoking

actually, I was surprised when I saw three guitarists in the Rock in Rio III video (first time I saw the new line-up ok)
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2006, 02:44:51 PM »

If they have a 3rd player, Id want him to  be a main component of the last GNR, not a touring player, not a special guest player either.  Either a full time member or nothing, if not I think Finck and Fortus can do fine.  Does any else think its weird that the 2 current GNR players have the same initials R . F.
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2006, 02:57:36 PM »

It wont bother me in the least. I think 3 guitar players is kinda overkill anyway when you have Finck & Fortus. Dizzy can play if they need him to.
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2006, 03:08:38 PM »

I won't care... Finck & Fortus are cool...
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2006, 03:21:30 PM »

I can't comment on that until I hear how they did.

I have absolutely no doubt that they could handle the old GNR stuff with their eyes closed. Finck may be a tad sloppy in some of the more boring solos, but he tears a new one out of some of them too.

As for the new material, it isn't physically possible to play the songs as they sound in the demos with only 2 guitar players. As far as we know Buckethead's work is still on the album, so quite how they are going to play those songs live is beyond me. If they have written him out altogether then there is a danger they will sound flat.

We'll have to wait and see. I do fear that Axl hasn't thought about it. People say that he won't make the same mistakes twice, but he would. He is the most lazy and unprofessional person in music. I bet to this day Axl hasn't yet rehearsed and probably hasn't done much singing in years. He'll stroll up on the morning of the gig and try to do it in a one off rehearsal, then promptly miss the soundcheck. He'll do fine but I would expect Axl at the NYC shows to be as rusty as his ginger pubes, with the poor sound techs having a nightmare night.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2006, 03:28:06 PM »

I won't be disappointed if it is "just" Finck and Fortus, as GeorgeSteele said... If Axl has the confidence in them then they can pull it off.

It wouldn't go amiss if Zakk Wylde, Slash or Buckethead were there though  hihi
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2006, 03:30:11 PM »

Yeah, since Zakk doesnt have enough to do already with Ozzy, Black Label Soceity, and rumored to replace Dimebag in Rebel Meets Rebel. The new hardest working man in show business ok
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2006, 03:31:54 PM »

If I fly to NYC on the 12th and Axl shows up and plays a show with GnR - regardless of technically "who" is in GnR, I won't be disappointed in the least.  I'm just thrilled to be a part of it and to say that I was there.  Buckethead, Fortus, Fink...it's all good.
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2006, 03:37:25 PM »

If I fly to NYC on the 12th and Axl shows up and plays a show with GnR - regardless of technically "who" is in GnR, I won't be disappointed in the least.? I'm just thrilled to be a part of it and to say that I was there.? Buckethead, Fortus, Fink...it's all good.

That sounds right to me.  I couldn't really care less as to who is playing.  Sure, it'd be nice to have one of the original badboys back, or it'd be cool to see a replacement, but I'll take it however I can get it.  I'm like a fat kid with cake when it comes to GNR - there is no wrong way to serve it.  Just put it in front of me and I'm happy.
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2006, 03:39:26 PM »

If I fly to NYC on the 12th and Axl shows up and plays a show with GnR - regardless of technically "who" is in GnR, I won't be disappointed in the least.? I'm just thrilled to be a part of it and to say that I was there.? Buckethead, Fortus, Fink...it's all good.

That sounds right to me.? I couldn't really care less as to who is playing.? Sure, it'd be nice to have one of the original badboys back, or it'd be cool to see a replacement, but I'll take it however I can get it.? I'm like a fat kid with cake when it comes to GNR - there is no wrong way to serve it.? Just put it in front of me and I'm happy.

Well said.  There might be "good" and "bad" variations of GnR, but still...it's GnR.  No matter how bad it might be, it's still pretty damn good.
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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2006, 03:41:20 PM »

No matter how bad it might be, it's still pretty damn good.

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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2006, 03:47:26 PM »

you know if there is 2 players thats fine. GN'R have always had 2. So to me its fine. 14th BABY!!!!!!! beer peace
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2006, 03:50:37 PM »

Nope.  This lineup is nice for the most part, but its 95% about Axl for me.
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2006, 03:54:09 PM »

                    I think Axl will do fine with 2 guitarists if possible. I have seen him play guitar now..so he could possibly play .
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2006, 04:02:05 PM »

I don't care. I'd rather see a set group of guys who stay, not a revolving door.
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