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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Shows?
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There will be a third guitarist, thats why there are auditions
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Shows?
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Absolutely not.
Axl could be up their karaoking and Im suremost of the crowd wouldnt give a shit.
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Shows?
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Quote from: Naupis on May 05, 2006, 02:26:52 PM
This isn't supposed to be a "will Slash be there" type of thread, just a general question of whether you wil be bummed if it is only Finck and Fortus.
For the life of me I can't figure out how they could play without a 3rd guy, as any new music had three guitarists on it when it was written we are lead to believe. Not to mention that neither Finck nor Fortus can handle Slash or Buckethead's solos in a way that does them justice. Not to say they aren't solid players, but neither fall into that category of "special" the way Slash or Bucket.
I just fear that a concert with just the 2 of them will be a little underwhelming, as I can't imagine how Robin would play the nightrain solo, or the final part of PC, or even Buckethead's TWAT or IRS solos (assuming they play some new stuff).
Let's all keep our fingers crossed we don't have to worry about this come next weekend.
I disagree. Finck and Fortus are quite capable of handling any solo played by Slash, and I wouldn't even want to hear Buckethead's stuff being repeated by anyone, his material is better left off the songs as I felt it was uninspired. But that's for another topic.
I also think that Fortus and Finck are more than enough as far as guitarists go. Any song/part can be rearranged to fit two guitarists instead of three (I never really understood why they needed three guitarists). But I wouldn't realy feel anything either way, to be honest. Whatever decision Axl has made regarding that issue means we're one less decision closer to CD.
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Sho
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Quote from: busngabb on May 05, 2006, 03:21:30 PM
I can't comment on that until I hear how they did.
I have absolutely no doubt that they could handle the old GNR stuff with their eyes closed. Finck may be a tad sloppy in some of the more boring solos, but he tears a new one out of some of them too.
As for the new material, it isn't physically possible to play the songs as they sound in the demos with only 2 guitar players. As far as we know Buckethead's work is still on the album, so quite how they are going to play those songs live is beyond me. If they have written him out altogether then there is a danger they will sound flat.
We'll have to wait and see. I do fear that Axl hasn't thought about it. People say that he won't make the same mistakes twice, but he would. He is the most lazy and unprofessional person in music. I bet to this day Axl hasn't yet rehearsed and probably hasn't done much singing in years. He'll stroll up on the morning of the gig and try to do it in a one off rehearsal, then promptly miss the soundcheck. He'll do fine but I would expect Axl at the NYC shows to be as rusty as his ginger pubes, with the poor sound techs having a nightmare night.
Lazy and unprofessonal? What are you talking about. How is Axl lazy or umprofessional? Axl is one of the most hardest working people in music, if he was lazy he would just throw an album together and put it out there every year to make money but axl works his ass off making the best possible album that he can. As for unprofessional? Again how is he? Because BH quit on him? Just listen to what people say about BH when he was in gnr and what they had to do to get him to record? They had to talk to his hand puppet and they had to built him a chicken coop in the studio.
Axl rarely rehearses with the band so he can save his voice for the shows, plus he is been singing in the studio for the tracks so dont worry about it.
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Sho
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Quote from: dave-gnfnr2k on May 05, 2006, 04:24:33 PM
They had to talk to his hand puppet
dave, you're kidding...................right??!??
As far as this topic goes..........as long as Axl, Robin, Tommy, Richard, Brain & Dizzy show up...........I'm fine.
And Chris too!!!
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Sho
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May 05, 2006, 04:42:12 PM »
naa.. Rob' n' Rich' can do it...
(btw,sometime axl's voice sound like a guitar
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As far as this topic goes..........as long as Axl, Robin, Tommy, Richard, Brain & Dizzy show up...........I'm fine.
And Chris too!!!
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woohoo go Chris!
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Shows?
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Richard and Robin will shut everybody's up next week. Their talent and chemistry will speak for themself.
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Shows?
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Richard and Robin will shut everybody's up next week. Their talent and chemistry will speak for themself.
Man, I must have been watching a different concert than everyone else when I saw them in Cleveland and Columbus in 02, because all I remember was being blown away by Buckethead's skill and precision, but shaking my head at how sloppily Robin plays live. To think that taking the bands best guitar player is somehow going to make the band better leaves me scratching my head a little, but I guess if everyone is happy with what's left that is all that matters.
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Shows?
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If there's no 3rd guitarist, there's no 3rd guitarist, oh well.
I think it'll be MORE INTERESTING however, if there is a 3rd guitarist and it's just some guy. Like what if it's not Lenny Kravitz, Brian May, Izzy, Slash, Gilby, all the rumors. What if it's just Joe Schmoe?
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Sho
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Quote from: dave-gnfnr2k on May 05, 2006, 04:24:33 PM
Axl is one of the most hardest working people in music,
please quantify this absurd statement
no albums, canceled tours, abandoning gigs, erratic recording schedules, no rehearsals, no soundchecks, no interviews, no videos, no songs?
Hardworking??
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Shows?
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I can't see Finck playing that ripping solo in Better I know that much. That was the reason Bucket was there in the first place.
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Shows?
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Buckethead leaving reminds me of when LA traded Shaquille O Neal.
Saying GNR will be better without Bucket is like saying LA were better after Shaq got traded.
I've said this 5 billion times.
U cannot replace one of the greatest most legendary guitarist in musical history *Slash* with Robin Finck and NSync Fortus.
Bucket's talent gave him a great chance but these other two cant fill Slash's shoes.
So losing bucket to me is a huge blow to the band.
If I am proven wrong ill admit to it.
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Sho
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Quote from: D? on May 05, 2006, 06:43:20 PM
Buckethead leaving reminds me of when LA traded Shaquille O Neal.
Saying GNR will be better without Bucket is like saying LA were better after Shaq got traded.
I've said this 5 billion times.
U cannot replace one of the greatest most legendary guitarist in musical history *Slash* with Robin Finck and NSync Fortus.
Bucket's talent gave him a great chance but these other two cant fill Slash's shoes.
So losing bucket to me is a huge blow to the band.
If I am proven wrong ill admit to it.
your cool...not
as far as im concerned, nsync probably pays to have the best session guitarist available. are you saying if you were and up and coming guitarist, you wouldn't have done some sessions with them?
and as far as bucket goes, sure he's good and all, but i expected so much more. his lead on "better" sounds like an outdated 80's shredfest. the finck solo is where it's at
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Shows?
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May 05, 2006, 07:02:50 PM »
I can't say i'll be dissapointed, since I don't have any expectations. But it sure would be nice to see a couple of the real gunners up there with Axl!
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Shows?
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Just leave it as Fink and Fortus.. Thats what i want...
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Shows?
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hell no!
I'm not even expecting a new guitarist. If there's a new one, I'll be surprised, but if there isn't, it'll be indifferent for me.
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Sho
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Well, there is obviously someone new...we'll all know in 7 days.
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Sho
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Quote from: boston on May 05, 2006, 06:46:48 PM
Quote from: D? on May 05, 2006, 06:43:20 PM
Buckethead leaving reminds me of when LA traded Shaquille O Neal.
Saying GNR will be better without Bucket is like saying LA were better after Shaq got traded.
I've said this 5 billion times.
U cannot replace one of the greatest most legendary guitarist in musical history *Slash* with Robin Finck and NSync Fortus.
Bucket's talent gave him a great chance but these other two cant fill Slash's shoes.
So losing bucket to me is a huge blow to the band.
If I am proven wrong ill admit to it.
your cool...not
as far as im concerned, nsync probably pays to have the best session guitarist available. are you saying if you were and up and coming guitarist, you wouldn't have done some sessions with them?
and as far as bucket goes, sure he's good and all, but i expected so much more. his lead on "better" sounds like an outdated 80's shredfest. the finck solo is where it's at
Dude I live on 25 dollars a week, I am an up and coming musician and I WOULDNT play for fuckin Nsync for all the money in the world.
So dont start rationalizing this.
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Shows?
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While I am certainly not an authority on guitar skills, why does everyone think Fortus can't handle slashes solos?
I am a huge fan of slash, as he was the main reason I picked up a guitar in the first place. ?However, Fortus is very good and can play anything live that one might want. ?He handled several solos in 2002 and there is no reason to think if bucket is out, that Fortus couldn't pick up plenty more solos and execute them very well. ?
I must say, at times, like many people here, ?I thought Robin played some lazy appetite solos. ?But, on the leaks, his work has made me optimistic about his work on CD.
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Re: Will anyone else be disappointed if there is no new guitarist at the New Shows?
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Quote from: nesquick on May 05, 2006, 04:44:37 PM
Richard and Robin will shut everybody's up next week. Their talent and chemistry will speak for themself.
Goddamn right. I cannot wait! I hope it IS just the two of them so they show EVERYONE else whos been in the band uP!
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