Libertad debuts well below Contraband

[Smoking Guns]

I love Mary Mary too!  Seems like I would see it in a movie or something.

To get more sales release "Last Fight" now!!!!!!!!!! 

Did the leak hurt sales?

[Falcon]

Did the leak hurt sales?

I don't think it can be used as an excuse.

SBQM just didn't catch on to the extent Slither did, simple as that.

Plenty of time to rebound, new single and tour will surely shift some units.

[Smoking Guns]

Did the leak hurt sales?

I don't think it can be used as an excuse.

SBQM just didn't catch on to the extent Slither did, simple as that.

Plenty of time to rebound, new single and tour will surely shift some units.

That's true.  I just hope nobody heard the leak, then was just like "fuck it".  It was a very easy leak to get your hands on and pretty high quality.  They need to start the pr machine on the tour with AIC.

[Eazy E]

I know it's all down to personal taste and personal opinion, but that song is rubbish.

My favorite tune on the record, love it.

Agreed, it's one of my personal favourites too... I'm not sure how it would do on the radio though

Libertad drops 66% from last week, with a second week sales total of 32,946.? Brutal

http://hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

Is it in the top 20?

No, it has dropped to 21

[LunsJail]

Libertad drops 66% from last week, with a second week sales total of 32,946.? Brutal

http://hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

Obviously the first single has no legs.  I haven't heard the album yet.  Is there another track that could save it like how "Crazy Bitch" brought Buckcherry's album out of sales Siberia?

[madagas]

No song on that record is going to "save" it....they are all just too bland. No tour, no promotion....no nothing. The record just lacks intensity. It's rock by numbers-not bad, not good...just there. Sorry.? However, you really shouldn't care about sales. If you like it, you like it. Although Slash and Duff are surely disappointed (I don't give two shits what Scott and Matt think), whether they sell 250,000 or 2.5 million, I have a feeling they are doing alright financially.

[Booker Floyd]

It's rock by numbers-not bad, not good...just there. Sorry. 

Youve said the same about Contraband, and it didnt work out the same way.

Your opinion just isnt as definitive as you wish it was.  Sorry 

[madagas]

I didn't mean it that way.  I just meant that it is pretty bland to me and evidently a lot of other people. "Sorry" was to sensitive fans like yourself who like the record. I said if people like it, they shouldn't worry how it sells. I like a lot of bands that don't sell.

The sales aren't close to Contraband in any way shape or form-did I miss something?

[Booker Floyd]

The sales aren't close to Contraband in any way shape or form-did I miss something?

Yes, you did.  You thought Contraband was bland as well, and it sold very well.  So your own opinion of whats bland, no matter how many people you think agree with you, isnt a good means of determining why an album isnt selling. 

[PJ]

i like contraband more.. was generic but powerful
libertad sounds like nickelback with more guitars

[D]

The Last Fight is number on RollingStone.com for the Editor's choice of song.


I think it can be a HUGE hit and save the record.


Singles drive album sales.

[madagas]

Booker, how's this....I think the album sucks ass......I don't know why it isn't selling though! Better?

it just doesn't pay to be diplomatic anymore....

[Falcon]

Singles drive album sales.

Yep, so do tours.

[madagas]

singles do drive sales, probably more than tours in this situation. People are going to go see them regardless of whether they love the album or not...old school fans just want to see Slash or Scott or whoever. The Last Fight could help but they should make a move. I don't see it being another Fall to Pieces but what do I know...right Booker?

[D]

singles do drive sales, probably more than tours in this situation. People are going to go see them regardless of whether they love the album or not...old school fans just want to see Slash or Scott or whoever. The Last Fight could help but they should make a move. I don't see it being another Fall to Pieces but what do I know...right Booker?

I didnt think so either but I am telling u, I work with nothing but Christian Rock people and people who like shitty Indy/acoustic type music and they FUCKIN LOVED "The Last Fight" when I played it. They all *8 people* wanted me to burn them copies of the song.

So it seems like one of those that will make non fans take notice.

[Thorazine Shuffle]

It took me a few listens, but I dig it.  I just came to the realization that these guys wanted to make a fun hard rock record and they pulled it off.  Slash is all over the place but I've got to say from a songwriters standpoint I never really dug Scotts lyrics because I couldn't figure out what the hell he was trying to get across.  But with this record Scott fuckin' shines.  His vocals are top notch, dare I say better than any STP record and his lyrics are great.  They make sense to me.

American Man and Grave Dancer are superb.  And I love the hidden track.  Very "Goats Head Soup" era Stones.

[King Sand]

Well, Libertad debuted at #5 selling 92,000 in week 1... Week 2 brought 33,000 in sales and the album dropped to #21...  At this pace, by week 3, the album will be on par with GNR Greatest Hits (which is #1 on the Pop Catalog charts selling + 10,000 per week)... 

To what do you attribute this lack of support?  I think the album rocks! 

The band is selling out shows... (the band sold out three 30,000 seat arenas)
http://www.antimusic.com/news/07/july/14recap04.shtml

Why are fans not supporting this album?  Yes, PR is not what it should be....  But, Zeitgeist by SP sold pretty well and there was not much PR for that album...

Thoughts?

(NOTE - these sales are based on US charts only, not worldwide sales)

[Genesis]

Well, Libertad debuted at #5 selling 92,000 in week 1... Week 2 brought 33,000 in sales and the album dropped to #21...  At this pace, by week 3, the album will be on par with GNR Greatest Hits (which is #1 on the Pop Catalog charts selling + 10,000 per week)... 

Where is this info from?

[King Sand]

Well, Libertad debuted at #5 selling 92,000 in week 1... Week 2 brought 33,000 in sales and the album dropped to #21...  At this pace, by week 3, the album will be on par with GNR Greatest Hits (which is #1 on the Pop Catalog charts selling + 10,000 per week)... 

Where is this info from?

VR:
http://www.antimusic.com/news/07/july/1917.shtml

GNR:
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/chart_display.jsp?g=Albums&f=Top+Pop+Catalog

[Genesis]

^ Isn't that the same website that was quoting RichardNixon from this board for it's news articles?
Anyway, the numbers are probably correct. Maybe sales will pickup if they release a solid second single.
SBQM was such a bore.