Here is what I think is going on... re: IRS, Coyotes

[W 23 AXL II]

1) How can a club promote the real deal name of Guns n Roses as playing there? thats a major lawsuit, no smart busineness owner would ever do that....shit, no stupid busines owner would ever do that.

2) Where did IRS mysteriously just pop out of nowhere from....we've been waiting for a million years.... all of a sudden, some twisted, messed up sounding demo just appears on the internet in spurts of 30 secs, 45 secs etc. etc.


If you ask me, I think Axl is behind this all.

Either:

A) Axl has a sick personality and he's watching us all act like fools... or ...
B) something is brewing with CD



COME ON GUYS!!!!!! THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY THIS CD IS NEVER COMING OUT. ITS GOTTA HAPPEN AT SOME POINT, IT JUST HAS TO HAPPEN. AXL HAS A TENDENCY TO BE DRAMATIC, MAYBE THIS IS HIS WAY OF STARTING SOME GRASS-ROOTS PUBLICITY BEFORE THE PRESS MACHINE REALLY STARTS UP.

if there is nothing to this Coyotes thing, i guess my theory can be shot down. lets see....

[chinesedemocracy05]

dude i definately agree with you. The IRS thing where the hell did it come from? and the club in Atlanta would be out of business right now from such a heavy lawsuit if they said something false about Guns. Something is going on!!!!


I hope

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Like I said before Axl didnt leak IRS, if he was going to he would have leaked a better quality version plus he would have leaked the whole song and not half the song of a unfinished demo.

[Dave_Rose]

Axl is not behind any of it and the band is prob a tribute band because Axl would have spoken if so

[W 23 AXL II]

guys, u speak as if u know the truth. u have no idea, neither do i!!!!

dave....how the F do u know anything about anything?? you're saying its NOT axl b/c Axl would have leaked the whole song and a better version. WTF does that mean??? Axl is nuts. he has a crazy way of doing things.


and dave-rose.......WTF? u speak like u know as well. u guys crack me up. Axl would have spoken up by now....HOW THE F DO U KNOW THAT???

all my theory is stating is there are some unexplained things going, and there is a chance Axl is behind this.

[Aero]

1) Maybe the club said "tonight: guns and roses" (first band: guns, second band: roses, that's how they can promote themselves without legal troubles) [just my theory]

2) IRS is sourced from the radio, 2 years ago, I belive that MORE than one people did record the radio as soon as they listen a "new gnr rarity". The guy who recorded this, tried to trade the song with some big bootlegers (looking for other rare rare stuff) and then picked a funny date to put the mp3.

[Mr Cowbell ?]

Maybe thev are just going to have a few guns and a couple dozen roses on stage while someone plays. Hence Guns "N" Roses as they put it. ?

ANYONE who actually thinks the REAL GnR with Axl is going to play a small show in Atlanta is crazy. ?Look at all the facts and you will see Axl isnt involved. Why?


1- If Axl was involved in IRS leak he would of released the final studio cut? why because HE IS A PERFECTIONIST.

2- If he wanted to play a small club he would hit Vegas or LA as they worship him and would work with him any way possible.

3- Axl himself would have huge promotions, he doenst want to play for 20-30 hicks

4- It would cost so much money to fly in to this craphole, including all the members, entourage, and equipment the record company or axl would never waste their money on it.

5- Why play a show, he has nothign to promote, and if he was promoting a single or CD he would be doing something that will get him more attention then a little club outside of atlanta.

[Malcolm]

Like I said before Axl didnt leak IRS, if he was going to he would have leaked a better quality version plus he would have leaked the whole song and not half the song of a unfinished demo.

Why's that..He just wants go get people exited..And not give away the whole thing..I think its kinda fishy myself but oh well

[providman]

Like I said before Axl didnt leak IRS, if he was going to he would have leaked a better quality version plus he would have leaked the whole song and not half the song of a unfinished demo.

Dave you also said if CD is not released by end of 2003 it won't ever be released. Everytime you start a reply with "like I said before...." I think of that.? And you did say it.

[Bad_Apple]

1) Maybe the club said "tonight: guns and roses" (first band: guns, second band: roses, that's how they can promote themselves without legal troubles) [just my theory]

2) IRS is sourced from the radio, 2 years ago, I belive that MORE than one people did record the radio as soon as they listen a "new gnr rarity". The guy who recorded this, tried to trade the song with some big bootlegers (looking for other rare rare stuff) and then picked a funny date to put the mp3.

most rational thoughts I've heard
come on ppl....give it a break--if Axl wanted to "promote" guns, dont u think he'd try something a bit better than some poor-quality internet leak?

[dave-gnfnr2k]

guys, u speak as if u know the truth. u have no idea, neither do i!!!!

dave....how the F do u know anything about anything?? you're saying its NOT axl b/c Axl would have leaked the whole song and a better version. WTF does that mean??? Axl is nuts. he has a crazy way of doing things.


and dave-rose.......WTF? u speak like u know as well. u guys crack me up. Axl would have spoken up by now....HOW THE F DO U KNOW THAT???

all my theory is stating is there are some unexplained things going, and there is a chance Axl is behind this.

How do I know for a fact because someone I talk to has spoken with the guy who leaked the track that was taped from the eddie trunk show.  Like I said It was NOT AXL.

[SLCPUNK]

Like I said before Axl didnt leak IRS, if he was going to he would have leaked a better quality version plus he would have leaked the whole song and not half the song of a unfinished demo.

You've said many things that did not happen or were not correct.

[Neemo]

1) Maybe the club said "tonight: guns and roses" (first band: guns, second band: roses, that's how they can promote themselves without legal troubles) [just my theory]

2) IRS is sourced from the radio, 2 years ago, I belive that MORE than one people did record the radio as soon as they listen a "new gnr rarity". The guy who recorded this, tried to trade the song with some big bootlegers (looking for other rare rare stuff) and then picked a funny date to put the mp3.

most rational thoughts I've heard
come on ppl....give it a break--if Axl wanted to "promote" guns, dont u think he'd try something a bit better than some poor-quality internet leak?

First off, I would like to say that I'm pretty sure nothing will happen this Friday, but...

Of all the members who are "doing their own thing right now" the only one who is apparently busy this Friday is Dizzy. And his site says in Florida from April 20-23. (Doesn't say everynight though. I emailed Rumrunners for info for the Friday Show); Richard doesn't start touring w/ Nena untile the 28th; Tommy is off on Friday; We don't know anything about Robin, Brain, Pittman and Axl.

So lets say Dizzy actually is busy then my point is useless, but if Dizzy is not in florida there may be a (very, very) remote possibility that thay could do some filming there for a Video say. then while Richard is busy in europe they could release a single, a video and generate a bit of a buzz, then when Richard is through with his commitments then GnR could release the album and tour. IF they do this it is unlikely that they would want to much exposure. So then it would make sense to have management play the Coyote's thing down and Dizzy make a big joke out of it. (If this bar was exploiting the GnR name do you think he would be willing to come generate revenue for them, I don't) GnR is not going to want to have thousands of fans (or even a thousand) in a bar that has a parking lot for 50 cars. Am I right?

As far as the IRS leak, the quality was just good enough to get a good idea of what the song is like, if people wanna hear the real thing then they have to buy the album when it's released, (again its a mute point if IRS is not the first single). So I wouldn't rule it out as being an intentional leak.

Lots of weird little coinky-dinks going on right now is all.

[Mateoson]

So lets say Dizzy actually is busy then my point is useless, but if Dizzy is not in florida there may be a (very, very) remote possibility that thay could do some filming there for a Video say. then while Richard is busy in europe they could release a single, a video and generate a bit of a buzz, then when Richard is through with his commitments then GnR could release the album and tour.

Although I'm skeptical, this is an interesting point I never thought of. They will surely have to film a video at some point in time if this album is ever going to come out. Why not now? It's a good theory if nothing else....

[Walapino]

stop making outlandish theories about Axl playing with us or getting us exited, he has plenty of stuff to worry on his hands to fool around and stop making this fantastic scripts made for home movies, there isnt a conspiracy, there isnt a theory, there is nothing more than a fucking CD taking ages to be released because of XXX reasons we have no clue!
Give up the stupidity please and be reasonable. 

[Mikkamakka]

If GN'R aware playin' there, they wouldn't do the promotion with this 'Guns N' Roses are playin' here Friday' shit. Hell, GN'R did some secret club shows, but not under the GN'R name... Can you imagine how many people would be there and record this gig? 

So if a band called The Drunk Foxx were playin', there would be a better chance to see Axl and his band.

[Bad_Apple]

So lets say Dizzy actually is busy then my point is useless, but if Dizzy is not in florida there may be a (very, very) remote possibility that thay could do some filming there for a Video say. then while Richard is busy in europe they could release a single, a video and generate a bit of a buzz, then when Richard is through with his commitments then GnR could release the album and tour.

Although I'm skeptical, this is an interesting point I never thought of. They will surely have to film a video at some point in time if this album is ever going to come out. Why not now? It's a good theory if nothing else....

Interesting suggestion, but why would they film a vid at some lame bar in middle america?  don't u think they would either do it at a soundstage/airplane hanger (what ever thats called), or at a hot club somewhere in LA or NY? 
(and i can't belive I'm wasting my time posting this   )
just don't hold ur breath

[Neemo]

my email,

Will Dizzy be playing this Friday, April 22? If so how much are tickets and
what is availability like? Can I wait until Fri or should I purchase in
advance?

The response,

Mike, he will be playing Friday, at around 9:30.  Tickets are $5 and can be
purchased in advanced to secure entry by calling 850-351-1817. Or you can buy
them at the door depending on availability.

UNless GnR plays a reeeeally late show. It's not gonna happen

[*Izzy*]

You know, they can play one show without Dizzy

  Izzy?

[Voodoochild]

Yeah, first show in years and they would play without Dizzy, in a small club and with some lame promotion... :roll:

[*Izzy*]

We will see who's right on Friday?

  Izzy?

[Sakib]

i hope bludy so

[michaelvincent]

The GnR saga goes deeper than the JFK assassination conspiracy. 

[Mikkamakka]

The GnR saga goes deeper than the JFK assassination conspiracy.?

It's only a hoax...

[dolphin]

out of curiosity, who from guns n' roses can legally play a show and be billed as GNR?


edit to also include ex members?

[Midnight Gunner]

Yeah, first show in years and they would play without Dizzy, in a small club and with some lame promotion... :roll:

LMAO!

I love the "foaming at the mouth" GNR fans.  I mean, it's honestly funny to read all these threads and posts from time to time.  Now sure, I'm a GNR fan but I'm not coming up with 8,867 ideas/excuses/theories, ect as to why CD isn't out yet. 

Yeah, I want it just as bad as you guys do but I lost hope so damn long ago it's just not even funny any more...it will come out when it comes out...and Axl better pray he still has most of us still supporting him when it does.

[Twisted Nerve 85]

Like I said before Axl didnt leak IRS, if he was going to he would have leaked a better quality version plus he would have leaked the whole song and not half the song of a unfinished demo.

I disagree because he has so much control over his music its sickening, he has a Godlike protectivness over his art and I seriously think he leaked such a low quality version of it because

A. Its not finished yet and he wants it perfect
and
B. He wanted to give us js a little taste of what hes been working on to up our appetites (No Pun Intended)

Of course thats js my opinion I could be wrong 

[michaelvincent]

Axl didn't leak anything. There is nothing to ponder here except someone at the studio probably leaked an old demo that was sitting on a hard drive somewhere on one of the Pro Tools rigs, and that there is a shady club owner trying to play off people's stupidity by advertising a GnR concert at his club that isn't happening.

[michaelvincent]

It's only a hoax...

Hence the 

[fesxine]

I wonder how many HTGTH members will turn up at this gig?

[jameslofton29]

What purpose is there for GNR to do this show?? What good could possibly come out of it? They toured in 2002 and got zero accomplished as far as nearing CD's release. So if a partial tour wont get their asses in gear, what is one show gonna do? Absolutely nothing!! Which is why the show will not take place!

[RustyCage]

Shit man why do so many people bash Atlanta and/or Georgia?

[shamael]

just maybe this album will be a suprize release on tues

[Krispy Kreme]

OMG. Same post, different  year. Copy the post and put it in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004. Now we hear that CD is coming in November 2005. Next it will be Feb. 2006, then May, then .....Blah blah blah.

[michaelvincent]

Chinese Democracy starts November 2020. Mark my words.