'My World' - If you hate it you are missing the point

[MrBen]

I can understand if people dont like this song but do believe that the ones who say that it is total crap are totally missing the point of the song and the reason for the song.

As I have stated in another topic, the intention of this song was not to create another nice little RnR number that we can all sing along to with our friends, it was never meant to be an easy listen. This song was meant to depict Axls world so it had to be a totally fucked up piece of music, its a challenge to listen to, its almost uncomfortable to listen to and that is all part of it genius.

The song was meant to get inside you head and fuck with your mind so that you may just possibly understand the fucked up world of the mind that created it.

If you dismiss this song, then to do the above is too much of a challenge and I suggest that you "Fuck off and go buy something from the new age section"

"My World" was years ahead of its time, is better than anything Trent Reznor had done up to that point, and is quite frankly a fucking masterpiece

[Izzy]

I can understand if people dont like this song but do believe that the ones who say that it is total crap are totally missing the point of the song and the reason for the song.

As I have stated in another topic, the intention of this song was not to create another nice little RnR number that we can all sing along to with our friends, it was never meant to be an easy listen. This song was meant to depict Axls world so it had to be a totally fucked up piece of music, its a challenge to listen to, its almost uncomfortable to listen to and that is all part of it genius.

The song was meant to get inside you head and fuck with your mind so that you may just possibly understand the fucked up world of the mind that created it.

If you dismiss this song, then to do the above is too much of a challenge and I suggest that you "Fuck off and go buy something from the new age section"

"My World" was years ahead of its time, is better than anything Trent Reznor had done up to that point, and is quite frankly a fucking masterpiece

Sorry but i have to disagree

The song is just crap

Its embarrassing too

U just finish the beautiful 'Don't cry' and this awful noise explodes from your cd player - the amount of times i have forgotten it comes next and have had to dart across the room to switch it off

Its rubbish and shouldn't be on the album

If you dismiss this song, then to do the above is too much of a challenge and I suggest that you "Fuck off and go buy something from the new age section"

 

That cliched line is used far too often - it sounds hollow and desperate. 'My world' is not challenging - its just bad

"My World" was years ahead of its time, is better than anything Trent Reznor had done up to that point, and is quite frankly a fucking masterpiece

Being better than Trent Reznor is really no great achievement.....

[MrBen]

Like I said, the song is meant to be uncomfortable to listen to, I am rarely in the right mood to listen, but that doesn't make it crap.

[madagas]

Although I thought it should have been a hidden track or just a b-side to a single, it clearly is an intelligently written song, lyric wise. Axl is a crazy fucker. The music is just straight electronic industrial. I wouldn't want an album of songs like that but I dig it... some of you may laugh at this, but I prefer it to Don't Cry (the sappiest hair metalist piece of shit ever done by Gnr).

[jarmo]

Being better than Trent Reznor is really no great achievement.....

People like Johnny Cash might have disagreed. Go listen to his cover of "Hurt".



It's obvious that Axl was already interested in industrial music back in 1991 when the rest of the hard rock world were talking about Skid Row and Warrant.



/jarmo

[MadmanDan]

I'm not a big fan of the song,but it's really original. In fact,it can't be placed in any category: it's not really hip-hop,not really electronic or industrial,and definetly NOT Rock n' Roll.

[volcano62]

I can't stand people who bash My World!!! So what if it's not the best song off Illusion II, 13 great songs out of 14 is fucking good for any album!! Go buy your shitty music today and your lucky if you can enjoy more than two songs. You wanna know what shitty music is? listend to Boy George and then maybe you'll enjoy songs like My World

[Imfuckincrazy]

I can't stand people who bash My World!!! So what if it's not the best song off Illusion II, 13 great songs out of 14 is fucking good for any album!! Go buy your shitty music today and your lucky if you can enjoy more than two songs. You wanna know what shitty music is? listend to Boy George and then maybe you'll enjoy songs like My World

Damn I didn't know other people couldn't have opinions. Thanks for making that clear.

I don't fucking hate the song, and I can even stand to listen sometimes, but just because there are worse songs doesn't mean it's a good song. (If you have to listen to songs that are worse to make it seem better, that is a bad song.)

And as for UYI II, no one said anything about it being a bad album...

[JustUsOwls]

Hahaha

I can't believe this guy's excuse for My World sucking is "Well, It was meant to suck, that's genius!"

People buy music so they can like it because it's good. People aren't dumb enough to like it because "it was meant to suck."

[Sillything]

What to say? The people not digging this song have been delayed in the real world. How many times have they hit and missed?

Joking aside. I like songs like My World and Silk Worms a whole lot more than for example Bad Apples which is really unoriginal and frankly just boring. An a bit more industrial evolvement of the GNR-sound seems quite natural to me. Yes Apetite is the greatest record of all time but what happens when you try to repeat that? Listened to Snakepit???

[HoldenCaulfield]

I agree. While I don't think the song's disoriented structure is a symbol to how fucked up Axl's mind was, I think it was meant to show us what is to come, how Axl wanted to move forward with a more industrial sounds. Personally, I love the song.

[volcano62]

What to say? The people not digging this song have been delayed in the real world. How many times have they hit and missed?

Joking aside. I like songs like My World and Silk Worms a whole lot more than for example Bad Apples which is really unoriginal and frankly just boring. An a bit more industrial evolvement of the GNR-sound seems quite natural to me. Yes Apetite is the greatest record of all time but what happens when you try to repeat that? Listened to Snakepit???

Sillything you are right! There will never be an album like AFD, we know it, Axl knows it!

[Walapino]

I always thought this "song" was just a joke by Axl, I never gave it the importance as to hate it or anything. I mean the sex sounds rocked my cock so I didnt care much  

[nesquick]

a joke??? oh yeah and here is the perfect exemple of how ruining what could have been one of the greatest record of all time! "My world" totally killed the use your illusion 2 album! Without "my world", it would have been considered nearly as fantastic as Appetite. Sorry "my world" is not a joke, this is a MISTAKE. even worst, this is a musical crime. That song killed the whole album.
As much as I love Guns n' Roses, "my world" is the worst piece of shit that I have ever heard in my life. I'm ashamed that my favourite band put that song on an album. How did GEFFEN accept that horrible song? This is a shame.

[JamieG]

Being better than Trent Reznor is really no great achievement.....

People like Johnny Cash might have disagreed. Go listen to his cover of "Hurt".

It's obvious that Axl was already interested in industrial music back in 1991 when the rest of the hard rock world were talking about Skid Row and Warrant.

/jarmo

I don't like Industrial music too much and never got into Nine Inch Nails, always thought "Hurt" was a decent song but never gave it much thought because I dismissed it as coming from the point of view of a fucked up drug addict and couldn't identify with it much.

But since you mentioned Johnny Cash's cover of "Hurt", wow...that is the best cover song of all time in my opinion. The emotion in that song is just brilliant. It helps you see the song in a whole new light (from an old man who was dying and looking back on his life),

That is exactly why people should do cover songs (who wants to just do something the same as the original).

[Imfuckincrazy]

A joke?

I don't think that Axl meant it as a joke, but if it makes you feel better to think so, go right ahead. But if you're a serious band, you don't put bad songs on an album intentionally, as a joke.

The song ruins the album. As 'Izzy' said, you finish listening to Don't Cry, and then that song comes on... I just cringe. And when I don't change the song past it quick enough, I'm almost afraid to listen to the album. The song is horrible.

I don't hate the song, and I wouldn't say that it's "the worst piece of shit I've ever heard," but it is truly a bad song. (Okay, maybe I do hate it just a little bit... or even a lot.)

It's not the worst song ever, but by Guns N' Roses, it is. That song is way different from what I expected from GN'R. It just doesn't live up to the awesomeness of GN'R.

[Hammy]

U just finish the beautiful 'Don't cry' and this awful noise explodes from your cd player - the amount of times i have forgotten it comes next and have had to dart across the room to switch it off

Happens all the time normally i go for a smoke outside, i fail to see it's point it's no masterpiece and if it is ahead of it's time i wanna be dead by the time that music has caught up with it's time i mean if that's the way music is going hell give me a time machine and take me to the 80s

[Mattgnr]

I agree


It's total wank.


Don't cry..... then Bang...  

Its by far the worst song i have ever..... well heard... ever

[Izzy]

U just finish the beautiful 'Don't cry' and this awful noise explodes from your cd player - the amount of times i have forgotten it comes next and have had to dart across the room to switch it off

Happens all the time normally i go for a smoke outside, i fail to see it's point it's no masterpiece and if it is ahead of it's time i wanna be dead by the time that music has caught up with it's time i mean if that's the way music is going hell give me a time machine and take me to the 80s

Amen to that. If thats the music of the future.....

It just annoys me that ur listening to estranged,you could be mine and then don't cry and then suddenly this noise hits you - its an awful song but the fact you have had three true masterpieces before only hammers it home.

UYI 2 is my favourite album of all time and it pisses me off i have to be watching the clock throughout Don't cry to ensure the whole vibe of the album isn't destroyed by it

The song is embarassing - if Axl wanted to do a song about how messed up he is then surely with his ability there is a better way to have achieved that

[Evolution]

i like my world it's different which is exactly why i like it!


if in another life i became a film director i would definately use My World as music for a sex scene because it fits a drug filled,fucked up scene perfectly.

[nesquick]

if in another life i became a film director i would definately use My World as music for a sex scene because it fits a drug filled,fucked up scene perfectly.

wow! I hope you'll never make a movie...
Axl should have taken less drugs on that moment. that song is truely the worst "song" I've ever heard. "oh my god" and "silkworms aren't very far too... 10 years for that? Come on...
take a guitar to make an album, and put computers in a garbage. that's all I want to say.

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

I can totally understand how the 'arrangement' may not be appealing to many...   disturbing even...  But, I agree that it is what it is meant to be

I count myself lucky that I can appreciate its akward shape/structure

HOWEVER there is no way this song is 'crap' or a joke.

Like it or not - it make sense.
The lyrics make sense.
They are expressive and descriptive.
Everything in this song 'fits'.

My Worldu
You wan'da step into my world

            You want to understand me

It's a sociopsychotic state of bliss

Psychosis - A severe mental disorder, with or without organic damage, characterized by derangement of personality and loss of contact with reality and causing deterioration of normal social functioning.

socio- (pref.) Society/ Social.  He is not alone in (his) world.  Its a societal.

"our species appears to be suffering from a "global bipolar disorder";  there is collective emotional and mental instability that is effectively a social psychosis. This social psychosis manifests as irrational "bipolar" swings in popular mood, thought and behavior. There are creative upswings... (followed by destructive downswings.)"  - from The Global Bipolar Disorder Hypothesis by J. Adams 1/16/02
 
the sociopyschotic state of bliss is the 'upswing'

You've been delayed in the real world

         delayed means its inevitable that you will join 'his world'...
         you may not be there now... but you are only delayed

How many times have you hit and missed?

         He'as asking those who have not yet succumbed to social
         pyschosis... 'how many times have you hit and missed'...
         How many times has shit not worked out for you?  Its only
         a matter of time before those multiple 'misses' take their toll

You cat-scan shows disfiguration

         There are signs of the toll that 'life' has taken on you
         If you looked inside your mind you would see the 'disfiguration'
         Using the term cat-scan means that these things are not
         evident  -  perhaps through psychoanalysis or other therapy
         they would be recognized.

I wanna laugh myself to death

         After going it though it himself he can see from the other side
         how ridiculous it is to deny the inevitable.    
 
With a misfired synapse
with a bent configuration

        syn?apse - The junction across which a nerve impulse passes from an axon terminal to a neuron, muscle cell, or gland cell.

        "bent configuration" - the junction - the passage is 'bent' hence the misfiring (of impulses)  


I'll hold the line while you gasp for breath

        being deprive of oxygen causes brain damage
        helping you along to what  the inevitable  
        (remember you only been delayed)

You wanna talk to me
So talk to me
You wanna talk to me [7 times]
You can't talk to me

        You can't communicate effectively with him in 'his world'

You don't understand your sex
You ain't been mindfucked yet

        You haven't sustained sufficient damage to relate - yet
        See again the inevitability of crossing over into (his) world

        The part about not understanding 'your sex' can be simply
        translated to understanding your self
        Our most universal expression of who we are is our gender.
        Evidence by impulse to first identify ourselves as male or female.
        Example: Whats the first information you exchange with an
        anonymous person on the net?
     

Let's do it [3 times]
Oh my distorted smile

Guess what I'm doing now

         The sounds are obviously of one having sex.  
         Lets do it.  
         Join me.
         I'm gonna help you along this journey.
         Sexual intercourse is physically the most intimate one
         person can become with another.  The sex could be
         symbolic of that 'mind fuck'...   Letting one in your mind.
         Think of it as taking the 'red pill' in the matrix
          Sex is often a symbol of birth
          There are many similarities between intercourse and childbirth
          One of which is the woman's breathing/moaning - which we hear here.
          Again - an entry into (his) world - a birth.  A merging.

          Oh my distorted smile.
           Satisfaction of having one join him...
           In one who will now understand him...
          Distorted by the pain of knowing that now you will share his affliction.

okay, whatever
my interpretation is just that - it can be interpreted/understood differently by different persons

I've never went though it line by line and analyzed it before...
but what has come to mind as i have went though it like this pretty much
conforms with my prior general understanding of the lyrical content

i'd like to note that the lyrics only metion the 'state of bliss'
yet the 'distorted smile' gives away that there is not complete 'bliss' to be expected in (his) world

in any event i think the lyrics are well written
and the music and effects fit perfectly

[badapple81]

U just finish the beautiful 'Don't cry' and this awful noise explodes from your cd player - the amount of times i have forgotten it comes next and have had to dart across the room to switch it off

lol.. haha exactly the same here.

[Sillything]

I can totally understand how the 'arrangement' may not be appealing to many...   disturbing even...  But, I agree that it is what it is meant to be

I count myself lucky that I can appreciate its akward shape/structure

HOWEVER there is no way this song is 'crap' or a joke.

Like it or not - it make sense.
The lyrics make sense.
They are expressive and descriptive.
Everything in this song 'fits'.

My Worldu
You wan'da step into my world

            You want to understand me

It's a sociopsychotic state of bliss

Psychosis - A severe mental disorder, with or without organic damage, characterized by derangement of personality and loss of contact with reality and causing deterioration of normal social functioning.

socio- (pref.) Society/ Social.  He is not alone in (his) world.  Its a societal.

"our species appears to be suffering from a "global bipolar disorder";  there is collective emotional and mental instability that is effectively a social psychosis. This social psychosis manifests as irrational "bipolar" swings in popular mood, thought and behavior. There are creative upswings... (followed by destructive downswings.)"  - from The Global Bipolar Disorder Hypothesis by J. Adams 1/16/02
 
the sociopyschotic state of bliss is the 'upswing'

You've been delayed in the real world

         delayed means its inevitable that you will join 'his world'...
         you may not be there now... but you are only delayed

How many times have you hit and missed?

         He'as asking those who have not yet succumbed to social
         pyschosis... 'how many times have you hit and missed'...
         How many times has shit not worked out for you?  Its only
         a matter of time before those multiple 'misses' take their toll

You cat-scan shows disfiguration

         There are signs of the toll that 'life' has taken on you
         If you looked inside your mind you would see the 'disfiguration'
         Using the term cat-scan means that these things are not
         evident  -  perhaps through psychoanalysis or other therapy
         they would be recognized.

I wanna laugh myself to death

         After going it though it himself he can see from the other side
         how ridiculous it is to deny the inevitable.    
 
With a misfired synapse
with a bent configuration

        syn?apse - The junction across which a nerve impulse passes from an axon terminal to a neuron, muscle cell, or gland cell.

        "bent configuration" - the junction - the passage is 'bent' hence the misfiring (of impulses)  


I'll hold the line while you gasp for breath

        being deprive of oxygen causes brain damage
        helping you along to what  the inevitable  
        (remember you only been delayed)

You wanna talk to me
So talk to me
You wanna talk to me [7 times]
You can't talk to me

        You can't communicate effectively with him in 'his world'

You don't understand your sex
You ain't been mindfucked yet

        You haven't sustained sufficient damage to relate - yet
        See again the inevitability of crossing over into (his) world

        The part about not understanding 'your sex' can be simply
        translated to understanding your self
        Our most universal expression of who we are is our gender.
        Evidence by impulse to first identify ourselves as male or female.
        Example: Whats the first information you exchange with an
        anonymous person on the net?
     

Let's do it [3 times]
Oh my distorted smile

Guess what I'm doing now

         The sounds are obviously of one having sex.  
         Lets do it.  
         Join me.
         I'm gonna help you along this journey.
         Sexual intercourse is physically the most intimate one
         person can become with another.  The sex could be
         symbolic of that 'mind fuck'...   Letting one in your mind.
         Think of it as taking the 'red pill' in the matrix
          Sex is often a symbol of birth
          There are many similarities between intercourse and childbirth
          One of which is the woman's breathing/moaning - which we hear here.
          Again - an entry into (his) world - a birth.  A merging.

          Oh my distorted smile.
           Satisfaction of having one join him...
           In one who will now understand him...
          Distorted by the pain of knowing that now you will share his affliction.

okay, whatever
my interpretation is just that - it can be interpreted/understood differently by different persons

I've never went though it line by line and analyzed it before...
but what has come to mind as i have went though it like this pretty much
conforms with my prior general understanding of the lyrical content

i'd like to note that the lyrics only metion the 'state of bliss'
yet the 'distorted smile' gives away that there is not complete 'bliss' to be expected in (his) world

in any event i think the lyrics are well written
and the music and effects fit perfectly

Oooh cool analysis! Masterpice

[unoturbo]

If you have to analyse a song before you can like it, then it's a bad song!

It's similar to that art house thing that burned down in England. It contained some of the best contemporary pieces of 'art', which included a bath, a tent and a shed!!!!!!! All of which were desribed as well ahead of their time.

Yes, you can analyse and write down what the shed meant to the artist (who got paid thousands to 'produce' it) but it doesn't change the fact it is still a shed!

Same with My World. If I had made that song you'd thing it was absolute shite.

And as for analysing it and trying to make it something it's not: You can't polish a turd!

[matt88]

I can understand if people dont like this song but do believe that the ones who say that it is total crap are totally missing the point of the song and the reason for the song.

As I have stated in another topic, the intention of this song was not to create another nice little RnR number that we can all sing along to with our friends, it was never meant to be an easy listen. This song was meant to depict Axls world so it had to be a totally fucked up piece of music, its a challenge to listen to, its almost uncomfortable to listen to and that is all part of it genius.

The song was meant to get inside you head and fuck with your mind so that you may just possibly understand the fucked up world of the mind that created it.

If you dismiss this song, then to do the above is too much of a challenge and I suggest that you "Fuck off and go buy something from the new age section"

"My World" was years ahead of its time, is better than anything Trent Reznor had done up to that point, and is quite frankly a fucking masterpiece

Did u ask him did ya

[page]

I?ll bet my ass that no-one here would like it, it wasn`t made by GNR (or more specific, your dearly beloved little Axl)

[Skeletor]

I?ll bet my ass that no-one here would like it, it wasn`t made by GNR (or more specific, your dearly beloved little Axl)

That's inane logic, it's like saying you wouldn't like your best friend if he was someone else.

[sic.]

I?ll bet my ass that no-one here would like it, it wasn`t made by GNR (or more specific, your dearly beloved little Axl)

If it would've been made by somebody else, we wouldn't probably give a shit. Since it's made by GNR, we do. You think there's a contradiction here, forming an opinion and debating on a song by a band you like?

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

If you have to analyse a song before you can like it, then it's a bad song!

Excuse me.  I did not have to analyze the song in order to like it.  I shared my interpretation of the lyrics for those who might appreciate it.  Obviously, you don't.  
Music is art and art is subjective.
Fair enough you can say you don't like it.
But to state it is a 'bad' song as though that were fact is incorrect.
Who are you to make a definitive judgement?
For those who think its so 'obvious' that the song is 'crap'
you have to understand that there are those of us who think its obvious that the song is not crap.
Get it?

I said I like it and gave reasons why I like it and why reasons I think it is a good song.
You wanna say you don't like it then say why you don't like it perhaps - that is if you are interested in having a real discussion.

It's similar to that art house thing that burned down in England. It contained some of the best contemporary pieces of 'art', which included a bath, a tent and a shed!!!!!!! All of which were desribed as well ahead of their time.

Yes, you can analyse and write down what the shed meant to the artist (who got paid thousands to 'produce' it) but it doesn't change the fact it is still a shed!
Same with My World. If I had made that song you'd thing it was absolute shite.

No - its not the same.  The lyrics speak.  
There are words.  Those words have meanings.  

you want to step into my world?
its a sociophycotic state of bliss
you been delayed in the real world
tell me how many times have you hit and missed?
your cat-scan shows disfiguration
i wanna laugh myself to death
with a misfired synapse
with a bent configuration
i hold the line while you grasp for breath
you wanna talk to me
so talk to me
you can't talk to me
you can't understand your sex
you ain't been mind fucked yet

So how does that equal a shed?  
The song is not abstract.
Those words have specific meanings
Igput the meanings of many of the key words so that
some who may want to could know what they mean.

And as for analysing it and trying to make it something it's not: You can't polish a turd!

Again - while my comment included some subjective interpretations the fact remains that the song has lyrics which make thier own sense.  Those lyrics are made of words  - many of which I defined to enable some who might be interested to understand.  Those words and lyrics in and of themselves on their own express the writers feelings.
The fact that you (or others) don't relate to those feelings, does not invalidate the writer's method of expressing himself.  Its not like he sung non-sense.  So enough with the 'crap' and 'turd' comments.  

The initial poster made a very keen observation.
If you don't 'get it'... then it must be crap, eh?

Seems the turds lie between some listeners'  ears and those could use some airing out.

Is it so hard to open your mind and maybe  - just maybe  - try to see something from a different perspective?

Nah, so much better to say: Its crap!  and keep walking cuz what u are afraid of?  

And you are damn skippy i am interested in discussing this song because it is written by Axl Rose.
His writing has always connected with me on some level and I'm far from alone in that.
I bet a lot of you would be surprised to know how many of us would thouroughly enjoy to read silently the lyrics of Axl Rose without a drop of music.  

PS:  nothing in my post is personally towards you unoturbo
       A lot of people could benefit from opening thier mind to all sorts of different forms of expressions.
       Its good excercise for the mind.

[Buddha_Master]

I wonder if any of you are knowledgable in the Beatles, and some of the music they made. During the psychedelic 60's they along with others (like hendrix) experimented with their music and used it like a painter does with ink on a blank canvas, knowing full well the state of mind of some of the listeners that were their giving into the journey.

The White Album. Try tripping to it. Im serious. Really take a night off, get into a comfortable place, and trip to it. That is an experience. It takes you to places.

But, just as it takes you to another mental plane of existence...there is the track number 9.

Have any of you experienced that...I mean really experience it. If you do it while not on a psychedelic drug, then you will not experience what this does.

My World, is almost an extension of that. Not quite the same, not quite as good...but it eludes to it. I agree with the topic starter, that if you don't like it...you are missing the point. You just don't get it. The song for all intents and purposes, is a psychedelic mindfuck. Few others would bother trying to capture this.

And for those that want to dismiss what Trent Reznor has done, and continues to do (his new album being solely created on a digital medium with an ex that will hit with a 6.1 soundfield) goes beyond a simple difference of a opinion. Its a shortcome to thinking. Its ignorance. They layers and depth to NIN music is something that talking shit about, is about the same as taking a  marker and writing the word "fool" onto your forehead.

My World is different, and does not mess up "what could have been a total masterpiece album." What ruined UYI 2 is not My World. What does is the utter amateurish, elementary track called Get In The Ring. What a fucking piece of shit shallow bully song that is. Shotgun blues is also one of the albums lowpoints that keep it from being a Masterpiece.

My World is something that unfortunately some of you don't understand and appreciate. But it makes those that do, all the more wiser.

[unoturbo]

You wanna say you don't like it then say why you don't like it perhaps - that is if you are interested in having a real discussion.

I don't like it because it's not a good song! The lyrics do make sense and you can certainly argue that they are good lyrics, but take them away and listen to the music! Infact time how long you can stand it for.

I like GNR because they have good lyrics and exceptional music. I love Estranged for example, both because of the lyrics and the music. I didn't need to listen to it a few times or think about what it means, I love the tune. Sometimes i listen to the lyrics, sometimes the guitar parts, sometimes even to the drums, there isn't anything bad about it.

Now compare to My World. Passable lyrics (compared to their other songs) and terrible, god-awful music, no real instruments............ Just shite!

So how does that equal a shed?  
The song is not abstract.
Those words have specific meanings

The song is not abstract but you are trying to analyse it into something else. A shed is a shed, a song is a song. Compared to other songs this one, in my oppion (and anyone else's with ears!), is a bad song

Those words and lyrics in and of themselves on their own express the writers feelings.The fact that you (or others) don't relate to those feelings, does not invalidate the writer's method of expressing  himself.  Its not like he sung non-sense.  So enough with the 'crap' and 'turd' comments.  

That's a very abstract way to analyse a song!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like I said before, he can sing about what the hell he wants to, I can't stand the actual tune so I'd hate it no matter what, whether I 'got' it or related to it or whatever.

Is it so hard to open your mind and maybe  - just maybe  - try to see something from a different perspective?

Nah, so much better to say: Its crap!  and keep walking cuz what u are afraid of?  

Walking away!! From what? A big scary song that might open up some deep psychological experience I had buried deep inside for years?

I see it from the perspective of a song. Nothing more. That's because it's a song, just like a shed is a shed, I'm not into the abstract viewpoint.

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

'My World' is fuckin awesome. Might not be the best GN'R song, but it certaintly is good. It's different and has great lyrics. Also, I do like the music behind it. People just arent open minded, they dont like to experience different kinds of music.

[madagas]

The ways of the Buddha..listen and learn boys and girls. Stoned Immaculate.

[MrBen]

That was a great and very thoughtfull informative breakdown of the lyrics.
 

[dust of my dust]

I totally agree with MrBen, and I am glad to see that I am not the only one who's really into My World.

When I was younger, it took me a while to appreciate the song, because I had to learn how to listen to it (much like I had to learn how to really hear what is going on in NIN's music). But once I understood it, I really started to love the song and its twisted vibe. The lyrics are great and the music was quite innovative at the time: for me, My World is a unique song...

And I am sure that Axl knew what he was doing when he decided to put it on the album: it was a test because he really wanted to incorporate more extreme elements in the music of GN'R. I think that it is clear that for him (he said it clearly in some interview back in 1993), My World was supposed to be the beginning of a more artistically challenging direction that he was eventually not allowed to take, because people didn't let him experiment with sounds and express himself the way he wanted to...

In the end, you can only be productive and satisfied if you listen to yourself and create whatever you want or need to create, despite other people's reticence. If Axl wants to create My World and Silkworms, then he should do it and go the whole way to achieve his goals proprely. If he does it with vigor and integrity, I think that the fans will eventually follow: the satisfaction will just be greater in the end...

[Dot]

If you dismiss this song, then to do the above is too much of a challenge and I suggest that you "Fuck off and go buy something from the new age section"

Hey hey hey! no need to use insults here my friend!

[PeterCoffin]

The purpose of music is to things that sound good. Not to be an artsy bastard and make shit that "people don't understand." Misunderstood "artists" are dumb.

[privatereserve]

I just heard Michael Jackson is going to do a cover of that song.  

[Evolution]

The purpose of music is to things that sound good. Not to be an artsy bastard and make shit that "people don't understand." Misunderstood "artists" are dumb.

i think the purpose of music is whatever you want it to be.if someone wants to make a "artsy" song how can they be considered dumb?it's an expression of himself.

[SlashFan]

I can totally understand how the 'arrangement' may not be appealing to many...   disturbing even...  But, I agree that it is what it is meant to be

I count myself lucky that I can appreciate its akward shape/structure

HOWEVER there is no way this song is 'crap' or a joke.

Like it or not - it make sense.
The lyrics make sense.
They are expressive and descriptive.
Everything in this song 'fits'.

My Worldu
You wan'da step into my world

            You want to understand me

It's a sociopsychotic state of bliss

Psychosis - A severe mental disorder, with or without organic damage, characterized by derangement of personality and loss of contact with reality and causing deterioration of normal social functioning.

socio- (pref.) Society/ Social.  He is not alone in (his) world.  Its a societal.

"our species appears to be suffering from a "global bipolar disorder";  there is collective emotional and mental instability that is effectively a social psychosis. This social psychosis manifests as irrational "bipolar" swings in popular mood, thought and behavior. There are creative upswings... (followed by destructive downswings.)"  - from The Global Bipolar Disorder Hypothesis by J. Adams 1/16/02
 
the sociopyschotic state of bliss is the 'upswing'

You've been delayed in the real world

         delayed means its inevitable that you will join 'his world'...
         you may not be there now... but you are only delayed

How many times have you hit and missed?

         He'as asking those who have not yet succumbed to social
         pyschosis... 'how many times have you hit and missed'...
         How many times has shit not worked out for you?  Its only
         a matter of time before those multiple 'misses' take their toll

You cat-scan shows disfiguration

         There are signs of the toll that 'life' has taken on you
         If you looked inside your mind you would see the 'disfiguration'
         Using the term cat-scan means that these things are not
         evident  -  perhaps through psychoanalysis or other therapy
         they would be recognized.

I wanna laugh myself to death

         After going it though it himself he can see from the other side
         how ridiculous it is to deny the inevitable.    
 
With a misfired synapse
with a bent configuration

        syn?apse - The junction across which a nerve impulse passes from an axon terminal to a neuron, muscle cell, or gland cell.

        "bent configuration" - the junction - the passage is 'bent' hence the misfiring (of impulses)  


I'll hold the line while you gasp for breath

        being deprive of oxygen causes brain damage
        helping you along to what  the inevitable  
        (remember you only been delayed)

You wanna talk to me
So talk to me
You wanna talk to me [7 times]
You can't talk to me

        You can't communicate effectively with him in 'his world'

You don't understand your sex
You ain't been mindfucked yet

        You haven't sustained sufficient damage to relate - yet
        See again the inevitability of crossing over into (his) world

        The part about not understanding 'your sex' can be simply
        translated to understanding your self
        Our most universal expression of who we are is our gender.
        Evidence by impulse to first identify ourselves as male or female.
        Example: Whats the first information you exchange with an
        anonymous person on the net?
     

Let's do it [3 times]
Oh my distorted smile

Guess what I'm doing now

         The sounds are obviously of one having sex.  
         Lets do it.  
         Join me.
         I'm gonna help you along this journey.
         Sexual intercourse is physically the most intimate one
         person can become with another.  The sex could be
         symbolic of that 'mind fuck'...   Letting one in your mind.
         Think of it as taking the 'red pill' in the matrix
          Sex is often a symbol of birth
          There are many similarities between intercourse and childbirth
          One of which is the woman's breathing/moaning - which we hear here.
          Again - an entry into (his) world - a birth.  A merging.

          Oh my distorted smile.
           Satisfaction of having one join him...
           In one who will now understand him...
          Distorted by the pain of knowing that now you will share his affliction.

okay, whatever
my interpretation is just that - it can be interpreted/understood differently by different persons

I've never went though it line by line and analyzed it before...
but what has come to mind as i have went though it like this pretty much
conforms with my prior general understanding of the lyrical content

i'd like to note that the lyrics only metion the 'state of bliss'
yet the 'distorted smile' gives away that there is not complete 'bliss' to be expected in (his) world

in any event i think the lyrics are well written
and the music and effects fit perfectly

Please,we don't really need to know what everthing means.The song is not one of my favorites,but it's ok,it's not really a GN'R song since none of them played anything on it(well besides Axl)but I don't waste my time listening to it

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

Please,we don't really need to know what everthing means.The song is not one of my favorites,but it's ok,it's not really a GN'R song since none of them played anything on it(well besides Axl)but I don't waste my time listening to it

Who is we?  And who said you or anyone else needed to know what everything means.
I shared my interpretation and the meanings of some of the words.  That's a problem?  

Hey this is an internet message board.
It exists for the purpose of discussion.
Specifically discussion relating to Guns N' Roses.
If I want to share my thoughts about a Guns N' Roses song on a Guns N' Roses message board - then I will.  

There are some who will appreciate it, and there are some who won't.  
The latter are not going discourage me.  
If I feel that I have something worthwhile to share that some of the other forum members may enjoy - I'm going to share it.  Not only to share my thoughts - but to be encouragement to others who want to share thier thoughts.

I encourage discussion - much like I did in my previous post in this thread.
I was pleased when I came back and read unoturbo's post:
     "The lyrics do make sense and you can certainly argue that they are good lyrics"

And even though he didn't stop calling it "shite" and "crap" he did so with good humour.
     "That's a very abstract way to analyse a song!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

and ultimately he expressed why he doesn't like the song:
     "I can't stand the actual tune so I'd hate it no matter what"

It's called a discussion.
One which you SlashRose chose to take part in.

[SlashFan]

Who is we?  And who said you or anyone else needed to know what everything means.
I shared my interpretation and the meanings of some of the words.  That's a problem?  

Hey this is an internet message board.
It exists for the purpose of discussion.
Specifically discussion relating to Guns N' Roses.
If I want to share my thoughts about a Guns N' Roses song on a Guns N' Roses message board - then I will.  

There are some who will appreciate it, and there are some who won't.  
The latter are not going discourage me.  
If I feel that I have something worthwhile to share that some of the other forum members may enjoy - I'm going to share it.  Not only to share my thoughts - but to be encouragement to others who want to share thier thoughts.

I encourage discussion - much like I did in my previous post in this thread.
I was pleased when I came back and read unoturbo's post:
     "The lyrics do make sense and you can certainly argue that they are good lyrics"

And even though he didn't stop calling it "shite" and "crap" he did so with good humour.
     "That's a very abstract way to analyse a song!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

and ultimately he expressed why he doesn't like the song:
     "I can't stand the actual tune so I'd hate it no matter what"

It's called a discussion.
One which you SlashRose chose to take part in.

Sure whatever you say,I really don't give a fuck,it's not like anyone here cares what anyone else has to say,I know I sure as hell don't and besides I didn't and don't care what you say,it's all crap,even what I write on here is crap,so is everything anyone writes.

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

it's not like anyone here cares what anyone else has to say,

and yet here you are - reading and posting

[SlashFan]

it's not like anyone here cares what anyone else has to say,

and yet here you are - reading and posting

The only reason I post on here is because I am bored

[YouCouldBeMine]

They song may not be crap (pretty close though) but it doesnt fit on the album and I think it does take alot away from UYI II

[volcano62]

What ruined UYI 2 is not My World. What does is the utter amateurish, elementary track called Get In The Ring. What a fucking piece of shit shallow bully song that is. Shotgun blues is also one of the albums lowpoints that keep it from being a Masterpiece.

And you........You can suck my ass............I think your soooo low class!

[Sillything]

Rock n roll could be AC/DC and that's great! It's partymusic and we need that. just drink beers and booze and talk about women and minoritygroups in degrading manor whit our friends. Maybe go to a GNR show and shout "Fuck that nigger!" when we hear Martin Luther King in Madagasqar. Just realax from work and don't mind about intellectual shit.
But for me not even Apetite was an tits and ass kind of record. It was not just music, smoking dope and getting stupid, which is fun. That heartfelt emotion that got right to me was not about that, at all. Is My Michelle and Rocket Queen party songs? Really? I do too very much enjoy hanging out with my friends drinking listening to them( I'm drunk now). But if you listen to them, or rather read the lyrics? Welcom to the jungle? is that a party song?

Lyrical wise My Word is a natural progress and the music goes along whit it.

I think sometimes people are afraid of feeling stupid when facing artsy stuff. I don't think you have to be talented to appreciate talent ( I'm not) But nevertheless you have to aquire a taste of some refinement to fullly open your mind to certain art. And a shed is never just a shed and you can polish a turd

[gezm]

well guys its the worst guns n roses song ever wait axl song  

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

Lyrical wise My Word is a natural progress and the music goes along whit it.

I think sometimes people are afraid of feeling stupid when facing artsy stuff. I don't think you have to be talented to appreciate talent ( I'm not) But nevertheless you have to aquire a taste of some refinement to fullly open your mind to certain art. And a shed is never just a shed and you can polish a turd

 
nice to hear others expressing appreciation and understanding of Axl's song.
oh.. yeah... that's right it is Axl's song.  Thank you for pointing that out.  I wouldn't expect such a progressive visionary work of art from most of the other past members!  

[PeterCoffin]

i think the purpose of music is whatever you want it to be.if someone wants to make a "artsy" song how can they be considered dumb?it's an expression of himself.

I'm sick of artsy crap and jerks who are full of themselves enough to think that I will care. Write stuff that is fun. And fun as hell.

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

One of my fav all time Axl rants.

" Ohhh, Axl, cool, metal dude, rock-n-roll, party, cocaine, yeah...... I AIN'T HERE FOR THAT !! ...."
"....But see for me.....it ain't about doing fuckin cocaine. It ain't about how much vodka I drink, or how much I can drink someone under the table! It ain't about what a "macho man/rock-n-roller" I can be!
That shit don't work no more! That's great for little kids, fuckin bullshit! But, it don't work no more in the real world, not for my ass! I can't come up here and go "Yeah, I'm bad. I'm rock-n-roll, we're doing this rock & roll thing." If my life is falling apart......

I can't, FAKE it NO MORE! Just because my family or my record company tells me I should(fake it) so everybody can be happy or make money....YEAH!!! SUCK MY DICK!!

You know it never ceases to amaze me ........when you, are up here and you look out over the crowd, and you can always find usually 18-25 year old's .....real pot smoking, judgemental, rock-n-rollin, fuckheads!... You say I don't know I'm cool and shit. And I don't know who those GNR think they are cool and shit, but I'm cool.'
WELL, IT AIN'T ABOUT ME BEING COOL! IT AIN'T ABOUT YOU BEING COOL! But, what were doing here tonight is pretty fuckin, cool.
So, if you come out here to be a critical, judgemental, "FUCK," ya know, I guess that's your fuckin problem. If you want to stand there like James Dean with a fuckin corn cob up your ass, that's cool.
Seems to me you are wasting your own Goddamned time though.
And that's another fuckin problem-we all think we have so much fuckin time you know? We ain't got no Goddamned time to waste at all!!
You want to sit on your ass and think your COOL? You, WILL end up working in a factory til your fuckin 80 years old, then they will rip you off for your fuckin pension!
Meanwhile, I'll get off my fuckin soapbox. I was singing that song (Civil War), and people were going-- "Yeah, OK." But, maybe you are just stoned.
But this is a WAKE-UP call Chicago! Do you know where the fuck you are? Wake up!! It, s time to die!!!!"

I enjoy hearing Axl express everything that is going on in his head....
yeah, some people only are interested in whats fun...
I like what Axl had to say to fans like this.  

[Sillything]

One of my fav all time Axl rants.

" Ohhh, Axl, cool, metal dude, rock-n-roll, party, cocaine, yeah...... I AIN'T HERE FOR THAT !! ...."
"....But see for me.....it ain't about doing fuckin cocaine. It ain't about how much vodka I drink, or how much I can drink someone under the table! It ain't about what a "macho man/rock-n-roller" I can be!
That shit don't work no more! That's great for little kids, fuckin bullshit! But, it don't work no more in the real world, not for my ass! I can't come up here and go "Yeah, I'm bad. I'm rock-n-roll, we're doing this rock & roll thing." If my life is falling apart......

Exactly! I was thinking of that rant too.

Anway would be interesting to furhter comment and analyze on the the rift inte gnr fanbase between those who prefer the old guns vs. the new guns. Does those who prefer the old guns (in meaning wanting them to comeback) oppose both the new music and/or lyrics or mostly the music? If that is the case I recognise there love for Guns N Roses as they were. Slash and Duff took the consequences of their estrangement from the bands new musical direction. Which is healthy. Why linger on to someone you love for what they were(musically, mostly in my opinion since I personally regard the lyrics as a logical continuance of "the story") and no longer can be instead of loving them for what they are now or just move allong?

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

Exactly! I was thinking of that rant too.

Anway would be interesting to furhter comment and analyze on the the rift inte gnr fanbase between those who prefer the old guns vs. the new guns. Does those who prefer the old guns (in meaning wanting them to comeback) oppose both the new music and/or lyrics or mostly the music?If that is the case I recognise there love for Guns N Roses as they were. Slash and Duff took the consequences of their estrangement from the bands new musical direction. Which is healthy. Why linger on to someone you love for what they were (musically, mostly in my opinion since I personally regard the lyrics as a logical continuance of "the story") and no longer can be instead of loving them for what they are now or just move allong?

You make an interesting point.  A lot of the time it seems the only thing that seems to be expressed by those who seem to oppose the new GN'R lineup is that they have issues with Axl (such as blaming him for the breakup of the old band and/or frowning on his continuing with the GN'R name.)

Yet, there are some fans who, putting those issues aside, simply do not like the direction the music has taken.  (A lot of these same fans did not like a large portion of the UYI album material either - Muscially or lyrically.)

I think there are a lot of old school GN'R fans who feel that after AFD GN'R was all 'downhill' and see the new songs since Oh My God as a further departure from what they loved most about GN'R.

This happened with Metallica fans also after the Black Album and especially Load and Reload.  They only want the band to remain like they were in a time past.   Is an artist supposed to cease evolving and even (god forbid) experimenting for fear of offending those who define them a certain way?  

My World being the final track on those albums was very fitting.
 
btw... I find Madagascar to be a continuation of where the UYI albums left off (lyrically especially).  

[estranged.1098]

It's the year 2004 people, if you don't like My World burn a copy of UYI II without it.

Of course, you must have an original copy to do this legally.

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

"I want to do some stuff on my own, but not for my sense of identity...  I want to do some things like the song My World on Use Your Illusion II. I want to do a project like that with myself and a computer engineer with anyone who wants to be on it - raw expression." ~Axl Rose, 'An Incident To Remember', Hit Parader - April '94 By Caroline Mellon

[PeterCoffin]

I don't drink beer, I don't smoke pot. I don't do any of the shit in that rant. I just want to hear some music that is fun. Enjoyable guitar, bass and/or synth with a cool beat.

If there happens to be some sort of a message in a song that is fun and enjoyable (even if it's emotional and slow), great - I don't care. But if you have to make a shit song to get your message accross, just write poetry. Publish it in a book.

If you have to make a shitty song to make a point, I don't want to hear your point. Saying things like "people who hate My World don't get the point" in my opinion seals the fate of My World as a shitty song.

Mr. Rose could have easily had the other guys make a good song for him to go on a self-indulgent rant over. Instead, he decided to "make a point."

[Sillything]

I think there are a lot of old school GN'R fans who feel that after AFD GN'R was all 'downhill' and see the new songs since Oh My God as a further departure from what they loved most about GN'R.

This happened with Metallica fans also after the Black Album and especially Load and Reload.  They only want the band to remain like they were in a time past.   Is an artist supposed to cease evolving and even (god forbid) experimenting for fear of offending those who define them a certain way?  

I feel that way about Metallica too. The first four records where great and everything after was absolute sheit! And I'm not at a Metallica messageboard, Certainly not sayig anyone hasn't the right to be here . I'm just wondering what's the fascination after all these years? All the original members but one are gone, we just have a few bootlegs of new material and are divided in two camps love/hate. My World showed direction in things to come and here we are. Is it possible to love Guns N Roses so much that you can't realise you don't love them anymore? Members quit but  fans are asking for Mike Clink ( producer of Slash's Snakpit)

[Evolution]

I don't drink beer, I don't smoke pot. I don't do any of the shit in that rant. I just want to hear some music that is fun. Enjoyable guitar, bass and/or synth with a cool beat.

If there happens to be some sort of a message in a song that is fun and enjoyable (even if it's emotional and slow), great - I don't care. But if you have to make a shit song to get your message accross, just write poetry. Publish it in a book.

If you have to make a shitty song to make a point, I don't want to hear your point. Saying things like "people who hate My World don't get the point" in my opinion seals the fate of My World as a shitty song.

Mr. Rose could have easily had the other guys make a good song for him to go on a self-indulgent rant over. Instead, he decided to "make a point."

Axl has said in the past that he makes music for himself.if anothers like it thats just fine.



so it's not as if he writes his music with pleasing people in mind not all that much.its not as if he owes you a fun party song.

[ClintroN]

My World is kick arse, i've loved it since i can remember.
You either like it or hate it.


I LOVE IT

[badapple81]

My World is kick arse, i've loved it since i can remember.
You either like it or hate it.


I LOVE IT

You like your smilies huh?!  

[Ignatius]

Don't understand how this thread has had so many posts. I didn' thave any intention to post anything, since the song is aweful. But what the hell...

I hate the song. It's amazing how songs such as You could be mine or breakdown are in the same album as My world. I wish Axl had never written that....

[ClintroN]

 

[Buddha_Master]

Don't understand how this thread has had so many posts. I didn' thave any intention to post anything, since the song is aweful. But what the hell...

I hate the song. It's amazing how songs such as You could be mine or breakdown are in the same album as My world. I wish Axl had never written that....

From one fan to another...Breakdown is fucking bullshit, and is nothing but a pimple on My World's ass. My world isnt trying to be anything other than what it is.

Breakdown sounds great, but just as you get pumped because of its beauty, it cuts your balls of with the horseshit chorus and second half. I love the first half of breakdown, but find the second half completely obnoxious and annoying. So, basically a song that I have to swith off of before the shitty part kicks in, is a song that is shit. I would drop Breakdown/shotgun blues/get in the ring from UYI2 if I could. And these 3 tracks are far far far worse than My World.

I have been in a lot of different states of mind when listening to GNR. And the 3 tracks I mentioned sucks in any of them. Unlike My World.

[Skeletor]

This is going a bit off-topic from My World, but someone should do a remix of Breakdown with only the good parts in it..

[KeVoRkIaN]

The "Oh my distorted smile" sample from A Clockwork Orange should be a hint that it was meant to be cryptic and fucked up.  I think that's all he was aiming to achieve - just like the mystery code on the TSI cover.  I think we are all looking deeply into a total tongue in cheek song.

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

The "Oh my distorted smile" sample from A Clockwork Orange...

I did not know that.
(Only seen Clockwork once but it made quite an  impression on me   )
Cool.