Slash Comments On Book Signing Tour

[Ali]

And if it's so full of bullshit then why is it on the top list of books for the NY times best seller

how well its selling has nothing to do with how accurate the info inside is.

And let me guess you are very objective right?
.....
That doesn't give you the right to hate the guy.?

I am objective, and I don't hate the guy.? Although I have the right to feel however I feel.

Read his account of the St Louis incident and that right there puts anything and everything else in that book in question, IMO.

Were you there?

None of us had to be there, man.? There is video of the incident.

Ali

That was the anwser I was looking for?

What ever Slash has written in his book (of which I haven't read yet) is obviously Slash's take on the event.

Yeah, but he doesn't just give his feelings on the event.  He gives a sequence of events that from the video footage is clearly impossible.  Namely, his conversation with Doug Goldstein after Axl left the stage while the band was still playing.  The video footage makes it clear it could not have happened how Slash said.  Which, isn't to say he completely made up the conversation with Doug Goldstein.  It may have happened afterwards.

Ali

[TK1]

I'm sure Slash is telling the events as he remembers them.  You can look at all of the videos you want, but nothing can show what Slash saw through his own eyes.  I'm sure he didn't look at every single bootleg when writing the book.  I'd imagine he told the story as he recalled it.   And, I'm sure each band member has their own version of what happened that night.  Slash admits several times he is telling the version of events throughout the book that he remembers.  I don't mind people having an opinion on his book, but some people here are so harsh and extreme they honestly come across like they believe Slash has purposely written a 500 page book that is all lies.  With all the negativity he has received, you'd think he would have committed some serious crimes.  If Slash's biggest fault is his stories from previous years have changed or he has changed his views over time, then I don't think think he is quite the bad guy some people make him out to be...

[Jim Bob]

I'm sure Slash is telling the events as he remembers them.  You can look at all of the videos you want, but nothing can show what Slash saw through his own eyes.  I'm sure he didn't look at every single bootleg when writing the book.  I'd imagine he told the story as he recalled it.   And, I'm sure each band member has their own version of what happened that night.  Slash admits several times he is telling the version of events throughout the book that he remembers.  I don't mind people having an opinion on his book, but some people here are so harsh and extreme they honestly come across like they believe Slash has purposely written a 500 page book that is all lies.  With all the negativity he has received, you'd think he would have committed some serious crimes.  If Slash's biggest fault is his stories from previous years have changed or he has changed his views over time, then I don't think think he is quite the bad guy some people make him out to be...

you people can keep defending him to death.. but the fact of the matter is, we cannot take this book with anything except a grain of salt.   if this was a book written about slash by someone else and wasn't "official" you slash fanboys would be agreeing with me.

this was supposed to "set the record straight", when all it did was make things more confusing.

[slashisvr]

I'm sure Slash is telling the events as he remembers them.  You can look at all of the videos you want, but nothing can show what Slash saw through his own eyes.  I'm sure he didn't look at every single bootleg when writing the book.  I'd imagine he told the story as he recalled it.   And, I'm sure each band member has their own version of what happened that night.  Slash admits several times he is telling the version of events throughout the book that he remembers.  I don't mind people having an opinion on his book, but some people here are so harsh and extreme they honestly come across like they believe Slash has purposely written a 500 page book that is all lies.  With all the negativity he has received, you'd think he would have committed some serious crimes.  If Slash's biggest fault is his stories from previous years have changed or he has changed his views over time, then I don't think think he is quite the bad guy some people make him out to be...

you people can keep defending him to death.. but the fact of the matter is, we cannot take this book with anything except a grain of salt.   if this was a book written about slash by someone else and wasn't "official" you slash fanboys would be agreeing with me.

this was supposed to "set the record straight", when all it did was make things more confusing.

why because you dont you dont agree with it?!

i mean, at least SOMEONE is trying to set the record straight

[Jim Bob]

I'm sure Slash is telling the events as he remembers them.  You can look at all of the videos you want, but nothing can show what Slash saw through his own eyes.  I'm sure he didn't look at every single bootleg when writing the book.  I'd imagine he told the story as he recalled it.   And, I'm sure each band member has their own version of what happened that night.  Slash admits several times he is telling the version of events throughout the book that he remembers.  I don't mind people having an opinion on his book, but some people here are so harsh and extreme they honestly come across like they believe Slash has purposely written a 500 page book that is all lies.  With all the negativity he has received, you'd think he would have committed some serious crimes.  If Slash's biggest fault is his stories from previous years have changed or he has changed his views over time, then I don't think think he is quite the bad guy some people make him out to be...

you people can keep defending him to death.. but the fact of the matter is, we cannot take this book with anything except a grain of salt.   if this was a book written about slash by someone else and wasn't "official" you slash fanboys would be agreeing with me.

this was supposed to "set the record straight", when all it did was make things more confusing.

why because you dont you dont agree with it?!

i mean, at least SOMEONE is trying to set the record straight

its not about agreeing, i KNOW things in the book are not accurate.    If you aren't really going to set the record straight, then why bother?   or is it lying intentionally?  we do not know.

edit: this has nothing to do with how "good of a read" the book is..   it can be entertaining to read, but that doesn't mean to take it seriously.

[slashisvr]

I'm sure Slash is telling the events as he remembers them.  You can look at all of the videos you want, but nothing can show what Slash saw through his own eyes.  I'm sure he didn't look at every single bootleg when writing the book.  I'd imagine he told the story as he recalled it.   And, I'm sure each band member has their own version of what happened that night.  Slash admits several times he is telling the version of events throughout the book that he remembers.  I don't mind people having an opinion on his book, but some people here are so harsh and extreme they honestly come across like they believe Slash has purposely written a 500 page book that is all lies.  With all the negativity he has received, you'd think he would have committed some serious crimes.  If Slash's biggest fault is his stories from previous years have changed or he has changed his views over time, then I don't think think he is quite the bad guy some people make him out to be...

you people can keep defending him to death.. but the fact of the matter is, we cannot take this book with anything except a grain of salt.   if this was a book written about slash by someone else and wasn't "official" you slash fanboys would be agreeing with me.

this was supposed to "set the record straight", when all it did was make things more confusing.

why because you dont you dont agree with it?!

i mean, at least SOMEONE is trying to set the record straight

its not about agreeing, i KNOW things in the book are not accurate.    If you aren't really going to set the record straight, then why bother?   or is it lying intentionally?  we do not know.

edit: this has nothing to do with how "good of a read" the book is..   it can be entertaining to read, but that doesn't mean to take it seriously.

yeah, nikki sixx in the dirt, thats was pretty "added to the truth"

but how do you KNOW things are innacurate?!

[Jim Bob]

you're obviously a blind fucking slash fanboy and its no use explaining it to you again.   its already listed in the "Errors in slash's book thread"  Read it.  I'm not doing it for you.

[slashisvr]

you're obviously a blind fucking slash fanboy and its no use explaining it to you again.   its already listed in the "Errors in slash's book thread"  Read it.  I'm not doing it for you.

wtf is your problem?

just because i dont read the board every day, because i have better things to do,. i get shit for it?!

yeah i support slash, i also support everyone in the old GNR camp or i would not have the AFD cross tattoo on my arm 

[Jim Bob]

here is the thread in question
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=49802.0

just read that first post.   and remember, thats only the stuff we know for fact.    who knows what else is being embellished upon.. clearly slash has no problem telling an inaccurate version of events.

[jarmo]

just because i dont read the board every day, because i have better things to do,. i get shit for it?!

Well don't expect people to spell everything out for you either.

You start arguing about things you could easily find out by doing some reading in this section.


You obviously don't have any problems with somebody (Slash in this case) accounting events totally wrong while selling it as "setting the record straight".


Oddly enough, you're not that flexible regarding a certain other band.





/jarmo

[Trist805]

I just read the first few posts of Errors In Slash's Book thread, and I have to say most of that stuff just falls under typos more than it being made up or unfactual.? I don't think he really changes anything around in his favor in the book.? I still think it had a lot of info about the band that only he could tell.? Wasn't there another Slash book released earlier in the year?? I haven't read it, but was it as good, informative, factual as the one Slash wrote?? ?

I also think that the part about rehersing with all the elements in tact, and then playing at Rio is open to interperetation.? The "we" could be GNR minus the back up ppl,? and that they just rehersed before playing the first show.? I don't claim to be a biographer but isn't it possible they did a few practices with the singers and stuff before going out on the road and they were just added to the stage show later on?? ?Would they have been able to rehearse with them during the tour in late 91?? ?

I'm almost to page 400 in the book and these errors don't really make me look at it much differently.

I do slightly agree with the Perla or Renee or however he married in October part.? That part clearly shows up while he was talking about 1992 and I found it odd that he jumped back to 1991 for a second, and wasn't sure why.?

[jarmo]

I don't think he really changes anything around in his favor in the book.

Well his version of the St Louis concert makes it seem like the band (minus Axl) kept playing.

Slash asking Doug when Axl would come back etc.



There's a lot of things he talks about in the book that fans don't know about. So it's kinda hard for us to say how correct his version of those events are.

All I'm saying is that with the limited knowledge the fans have, some of us still managed to notice some factual errors.



/jarmo

[D]

Most of the errors were kind of trivial stuff in my opinion.

[slashisvr]

But, how do we know certain things as FACT?!

there will always be diffrent views from axl, slash duff, izzy and matt from the gig, why can't we just accept that

i mean slash, maybe he isnt perfect or whatever who ever is?! but thats the way he saw it, and the way he felt about it, why do people slate it as lie's, we dont know FACTS at all.....i mean were we in GNR?!

maybe we should step back and accept people view's who were in the band

[Jim Bob]

i mean slash, maybe he isnt perfect or whatever who ever is?! but thats the way he saw it, and the way he felt about it, why do people slate it as lie's, we dont know FACTS at all.....i mean were we in GNR?!

because we can watch the video from the st louis incident and see that "slash's account" is not accurate at all.

[TK1]

I'm not trying to defend everything in Slash's book or even defend him for everything he has been incorrect about.  People on this board have went to a great deal of trouble to research various dates, events and such he had incorrect and that's fine.  I appreicate that and enjoy learning about the band's history. However,  I don't think some trivial errors such as dates and such means the entire book should be taken with a grain of salt and is nothing but bullshit.  I typically respect everybody's opinion but I thought his book was entertaining and did shed some light on how the band developed, functioned and unfortunately fell apart.  I can't blame Slash or anybody for being incorrect on some stories from 15 years ago as most of us can not remember every single detail from a time so far in the past.  As I stated earlier, I don't defend Slash on everything and certainly admit he has changes his story on things over the years.  However, that just doesn't seem like a huge deal to me yet some people make him out to be one of the worst people to walk the planet. 

[jarmo]

But, how do we know certain things as FACT?!

You can watch the St Louis bootleg DVD and see for yourself.

Also, the errors I found are documented in that thread along with the corrections so go read.

However,  I don't think some trivial errors such as dates and such means the entire book should be taken with a grain of salt and is nothing but bullshit.

No, wrong dates means it's poorly fact checked, edited and possibly that Slash doesn't remember all the details as well as he wishes.


Even his current band mate, who happened to be in GN'R with him, acknowledges the fact that Slash doesn't remember that much.


I don't really care if none of this bothers you. I'm just repeating what I've said all along. When even, fans who weren't there, find factual errors in the parts that are common knowledge, it makes some of us think about the accuracy of the rest of the book...



/jarmo

[Ali]

But, how do we know certain things as FACT?!

You can watch the St Louis bootleg DVD and see for yourself.

Also, the errors I found are documented in that thread along with the corrections so go read.

However,? I don't think some trivial errors such as dates and such means the entire book should be taken with a grain of salt and is nothing but bullshit.

No, wrong dates means it's poorly fact checked, edited and possibly that Slash doesn't remember all the details as well as he wishes.


Even his current band mate, who happened to be in GN'R with him, acknowledges the fact that Slash doesn't remember that much.


I don't really care if none of this bothers you. I'm just repeating what I've said all along. When even, fans who weren't there, find factual errors in the parts that are common knowledge, it makes some of us think about the accuracy of the rest of the book...



/jarmo

I would go a step further and say that Slash's bandmate, Duff, said in a polite way that Slash's memory is inaccurate.

Ali

[Smoking Guns]

But, how do we know certain things as FACT?!

You can watch the St Louis bootleg DVD and see for yourself.

Also, the errors I found are documented in that thread along with the corrections so go read.

However,? I don't think some trivial errors such as dates and such means the entire book should be taken with a grain of salt and is nothing but bullshit.

No, wrong dates means it's poorly fact checked, edited and possibly that Slash doesn't remember all the details as well as he wishes.


Even his current band mate, who happened to be in GN'R with him, acknowledges the fact that Slash doesn't remember that much.


I don't really care if none of this bothers you. I'm just repeating what I've said all along. When even, fans who weren't there, find factual errors in the parts that are common knowledge, it makes some of us think about the accuracy of the rest of the book...



/jarmo

I would go a step further and say that Slash's bandmate, Duff, said in a polite way that Slash's memory is inaccurate.

Ali

With all that said, still a very interesting read.  Its much better than I thought it was going to be.

[fuckin crazy]

it can be entertaining to read, but that doesn't mean to take it seriously.

Damn! I'm back in this section again.

You hit the nail on the head with that one. I still haven't read the thing, and I doubt that I will.

And on a tangent ... I love the guy's music, but would I trust him with my daughter ... or, my liquor ... or, ...