GNR's 'Democracy' To Be Retail Exclusive?

[GypsySoul]

the stuff listed in the Best Buy flyer as "exclusive" is usually available at other stores too

[jarmo]

the stuff listed in the Best Buy flyer as "exclusive" is usually available at other stores too

You mean not just your local Best Buy, but at other Best Buy stores as well? 




/jarmo

[GypsySoul]

I meant other record stores.  Sorry, but CD will NOT be available at IKEA 

[draguns]

I wish it was an Itunes exclusive since it's just easier  to store. Oh well. If it's Walmart or Best Buy, I'll get it.

[jarmo]

I wish it was an Itunes exclusive since it's just easier  to store.

But then you wouldn't get the physical CD with a booklet.....

Obviously that would make a lot of people unhappy.



/jarmo

[axlrosegnr]

I wish it was an Itunes exclusive since it's just easier  to store.

But then you wouldn't get the physical CD with a booklet.....

Obviously that would make a lot of people unhappy.



/jarmo

I'll be happy with any form of music, but your right, a physical CD and a booklet would be a lot better than just itunes

[14 Yrs Of Silence]

Hopefully there is some goodies on any physical release...something to reward us for our patience 

[gunns1]

Theres no Wallmart or Bestbuy in Australia,

what the hell is going to happen here?

[GnR-NOW]

Im sure theyll have a plan for an international release too

Negotiations are also ongoing to have conventional record company distribution, another source says.

[Ulises]

Further proof that things are moving along for the release of the album.




/jarmo

Totally 

[The Estranged MrFlashbax]

Musicians don't make money on record sales anymore. They make money by getting people to come to their shows. If the album is released to wal-mart only, sure, the 30-something year olds that go there anyways or the hardcore fans that don't give a fuck where it's released will buy it. But if it's a wal-mart exclusive, seeing the ads for the album ending with "available at your local wal-mart" spoken by that stupid-ass smiley face with a cowboy hat will have the band lose a lot of credibility with the younger audience. Earlier at dinner when I asked my friend's sister and her friends in high school, my cousins in high school and their friends to tell me what they associate wal-mart with, the first thing that came to their minds.. most of them said old people and mcdonalds. If you're going to sell concert tickets, telling kids "come to our shows and meet fat old people" is really not the way to go. Furthermore, if kids go to these shows and only see people old enough to be their parents and no one their age, it's a little unsettling (speaking from experience at an aerosmith show). "Who gives a shit about the punk-ass kids that grew up with fucking good charlotte and blink182 on the air?" you might ask. you may be surprised at how many of us from the linkin park generation actually like GnR, i know i was. But just liking the music isn't enough to get someone to buy your record or go to your shows. There's limewire and youtube for bands you "like" nowadays. But bands that you love enough to wait 2 hours in front of the computer screen clicking refresh every 10 seconds on the ticketmaster website  so you can score those hammerstein show tickets before they get sold out in 3 minutes, that's rare. people may still 'like' gnr on youtube, they may still 'like' CD on the radio and pirated off the net on their laptops and onto mix cd's and playlists for their cars and ipods but wal-mart exclusivity won't get kids to love the band like we do. I'm well aware that it's a bold claim with a lot of holes but that's what we do in a forum, right? express our opinions?
In my humble opinion, if an exclusivity deal cannot be avoided, Best Buy would be a better choice over wal-mart for the aforementioned reasons.

and on that note, i'm terribly sorry if that offended any of the older board members here. I humbly apologize. I have nothing but respect for my elders. Hell, some of you might even greet me when I walk into a wal-mart in a couple of years 

Seriously though, no offense. I realize i made generalizations but lets face it, that's how business works right? generalizing and putting customers in "target groups."

Edit: reading my post over made me realize.. well, it's not like GnR has any trouble filling seats as we've all noticed at how fast the tickets sold out. So maybe the tour was to see whether they can still sellout shows even without the new generation of possible audience members? So in turn, they could have an exclusive deal with a corporation like wal-mart and not have to worry about alienating the youth? who the fuck knows?  in the meantime, i'll just wait til rock band 2 comes out and pirate shackler off the net once someone hacks the game 
j/k folks.... or am i?

[GnR-NOW]

Hardcore fans will buy the CD no matter where its released.  If its only released at Coconuts, then people will go there.  The important thing is that it gets released.  The smart move would be to do both the physical and digital release.  For those of us that waited for the album, and saw the shows, and support the band, we need a physical CD to have that peace of mind that this is actually real. But as far as to wear its released ... who cares, yea Best Buy might be cooler than Walmart, but the music will be the same and thats all that matters.

[The Estranged MrFlashbax]

Hardcore fans will buy the CD no matter where its released.  If its only released at Coconuts, then people will go there.  The important thing is that it gets released.  The smart move would be to do both the physical and digital release.  For those of us that waited for the album, and saw the shows, and support the band, we need a physical CD to have that peace of mind that this is actually real. But as far as to wear its released ... who cares, yea Best Buy might be cooler than Walmart, but the music will be the same and thats all that matters.

that's it though.. yeah, us hardcores will mapquest the quickest way to get to the middle of the Bermuda triangle to pick up a copy but if it's a wal-mart exclusive and even itunes doesn't get it, there's a problem. kids are fucking lazy and selfish. they'd rather torrent the album and by the time it's done downloading, buy a dimebag with the money they saved not going to wal-mart so they can toke up to the album when the download's complete. 

[The Chad Cometh]

Theres no Wallmart or Bestbuy in Australia,

what the hell is going to happen here?

I just hope we don't have a delayed release in Australia because of this ... 

[Bodhi]

I can't believe the nonsense I am reading on this board...Wal-Mart is an awesome store that brings you great products at affordable prices...I know the "cool" thing for the kids to do today is rebel against big corporations...but this is fucking nonsense...I dont care if a convicted sex offender is selling "Chinese Democracy" out of the back of his van,im still buying a few copies off of him...anyone who wouldnt buy the cd because of the store it is sold in is an asshole....im sure there is a rage against the machine message board somewhere....why dont you go find it....

[gunns1]

Theres no Wallmart or Bestbuy in Australia,

what the hell is going to happen here?

I just hope we don't have a delayed release in Australia because of this ... 

If that happens,
you can just see all the australian fans giving themsleves permission to "taste it the same time everyone /usa else has it"
in the form of downloading...

[Scree]

I hope to fuck it's not Censor-Mart this get brought to as an exclusive.. in the way they have treated myself and other rock fans with their forced censored albums and in direct connection a substandard product (the single version of UYI for example.. not to mention the AFD ass fuck) I won't be buying from there. Period. If I wanna support the band it would be live, but the album if released at Wal-Mart can kiss my ass. Oh, I hear you cry, you mustn't be a fan.. No I mustn't be, having bought ALL of the products (bar the aforementioned wal-mart "specials") GnR have released.. Video singles and all.

If it is Dumb-Mart where it is an exclusive, then I'll get the album by other means.

[oldgunsfan]

If its released in wal mart and u don't have one near you, you know what I would do ? I would drive to the nearest Wal Mart and grab a copy I don't care if gas is expensive I would drive a thousand miles to purchase this CD.  The car ride would consist of AFD first, Lies, UY1/2, and then the spagetti incident by the time all those CD's are done you will be at your destination.

Or you could order online

[oldgunsfan]

Musicians don't make money on record sales anymore. They make money by getting people to come to their shows. If the album is released to wal-mart only, sure, the 30-something year olds that go there anyways or the hardcore fans that don't give a fuck where it's released will buy it. But if it's a wal-mart exclusive, seeing the ads for the album ending with "available at your local wal-mart" spoken by that stupid-ass smiley face with a cowboy hat will have the band lose a lot of credibility with the younger audience. Earlier at dinner when I asked my friend's sister and her friends in high school, my cousins in high school and their friends to tell me what they associate wal-mart with, the first thing that came to their minds.. most of them said old people and mcdonalds. If you're going to sell concert tickets, telling kids "come to our shows and meet fat old people" is really not the way to go. Furthermore, if kids go to these shows and only see people old enough to be their parents and no one their age, it's a little unsettling (speaking from experience at an aerosmith show). "Who gives a shit about the punk-ass kids that grew up with fucking good charlotte and blink182 on the air?" you might ask. you may be surprised at how many of us from the linkin park generation actually like GnR, i know i was. But just liking the music isn't enough to get someone to buy your record or go to your shows. There's limewire and youtube for bands you "like" nowadays. But bands that you love enough to wait 2 hours in front of the computer screen clicking refresh every 10 seconds on the ticketmaster website  so you can score those hammerstein show tickets before they get sold out in 3 minutes, that's rare. people may still 'like' gnr on youtube, they may still 'like' CD on the radio and pirated off the net on their laptops and onto mix cd's and playlists for their cars and ipods but wal-mart exclusivity won't get kids to love the band like we do. I'm well aware that it's a bold claim with a lot of holes but that's what we do in a forum, right? express our opinions?
In my humble opinion, if an exclusivity deal cannot be avoided, Best Buy would be a better choice over wal-mart for the aforementioned reasons.

and on that note, i'm terribly sorry if that offended any of the older board members here. I humbly apologize. I have nothing but respect for my elders. Hell, some of you might even greet me when I walk into a wal-mart in a couple of years 

Seriously though, no offense. I realize i made generalizations but lets face it, that's how business works right? generalizing and putting customers in "target groups."

Edit: reading my post over made me realize.. well, it's not like GnR has any trouble filling seats as we've all noticed at how fast the tickets sold out. So maybe the tour was to see whether they can still sellout shows even without the new generation of possible audience members? So in turn, they could have an exclusive deal with a corporation like wal-mart and not have to worry about alienating the youth? who the fuck knows?  in the meantime, i'll just wait til rock band 2 comes out and pirate shackler off the net once someone hacks the game 
j/k folks.... or am i?

well, I'm one of those fat-fucks you insulted who is in their mid30's but...................

1. I'm not a fat fuck

2. I still wear the same size waiste I did when I was in high school walmart

3.  never shop at walmart.

4. and would be just as pissed as you if it was exclusive thru walmart

other than that, the sooner this gets released the better cause I ain't gettin no younger

[oldgunsfan]

Theres no Wallmart or Bestbuy in Australia,

what the hell is going to happen here?

you have the internet right?