Too late for 2007?

[yourfinalanswer]

It's October 1st - that's pretty much the annual "the clock has struck midnite" for all of us old GNR fans which basically translates into "no announcement by this date, no alubum this year".  I have this on my calendar every year and so far it hasn't failed me yet (haha - theoretically that could be said for the other 364 days out of the year I suppose too though  )

I, like so many others, was actually hoping for a new album and fall tour announcement but no dice yet.  Baz's new album gives me alittle hope though that perhaps Axl is planning a U.S. tour this spring to support a new album which lends slight (and I mean slicht given every retailers false release dates until now) credence to the February Amazon date someone posted earlier.  This is about the earliest i can see the album dropping with anywhere near the proper promotion it needs.

Anyhow, what does everyone else think? 

[downzy56]

Is it unlikely that Chinese Democracy will come out this year?  Definitely.  Still possible?  Absolutely. 

The best proof that it's still possible is Gwen Stefani's album last year.  It was announced the first or second week of October with a release date for mid December.  Who's to say that this can't happen with Chinese Democracy.  Will it?  If I was a betting man I'd have to say no.  You could also point to Radiohead's new album being released in nine days (it was just announced today).  Mind you, they don't have a record contract and are releasing it on their own using digital distribution.

Nothing is impossible, but most is predictable. 

Cheers,

Andrew

[GNR4L]

The Deadline for myself is Dec 1 if no annoucement then no album but we have two months to go.

[John Galt]

Is it unlikely that Chinese Democracy will come out this year?? Definitely.? Still possible?? Absolutely.?

The best proof that it's still possible is Gwen Stefani's album last year.? It was announced the first or second week of October with a release date for mid December.? Who's to say that this can't happen with Chinese Democracy.? Will it?? If I was a betting man I'd have to say no.? You could also point to Radiohead's new album being released in nine days (it was just announced today).? Mind you, they don't have a record contract and are releasing it on their own using digital distribution.

Nothing is impossible, but most is predictable.?

Cheers,

Andrew

Radiohead have also announced that fans can pay anything they like for the downloadable album...  an interesting concept - how much would people pay for Chinese Democracy right now?

[littleredcorvette]

Radiohead have no record deal and their record has probably cost almost nothing to make. I somehow don't see Axl being allowed to post mp3 files on the net and saying 'Pay whatever you want! You don't hve to pay if you don't want to!'.

Radiohead are following in Prince's footsteps in looking for alternative distribution methods outside the music business. The new Guns record, like Springsteen's 'Magic', will be one of the last to be fully promoted in the same way big releases have been up until now.

[Butch Français]

^ you don't know that. while I think the promotion will he huge, I think it will also be somewhat different. don't know in which way, but I just have a feeling.
in that regard, it is definately not too late for 2007, but I don't believe it will be out this year. but that's just my own negative attitude clouding my judgement.

[kollemann]

^ you don't know that. while I think the promotion will he huge, I think it will also be somewhat different. don't know in which way, but I just have a feeling.
in that regard, it is definately not too late for 2007, but I don't believe it will be out this year. but that's just my own negative attitude clouding my judgement.

100 % agree

[WARose]

is universal`s release list for the rest of 2007 already out?

[russtcb]

At this point in the game I don't believe we're gonna get the album this year.

[CSS]

"It ain't over 'til it's over".

There you have it, boys and girls.

[RoCoKiN]

"It ain't over 'til it's over".

There you have it, boys and girls.

It's over...wake up and smell the roses!

[michaelvincent]

It's like we blinked and 2007 is almost gone. I personally am kind of surprised they haven't pushed this album out the door yet. Immediately following the tour would have been perfect, they were riding high on some really positive reviews and feedback.

As for Radiohead's new one, I would say it's one of the few albums that might push CD into an early 2008 release, because a new Radiohead album is stiff competition.

[evander1129]

90 days until 08'
Don't see it happening, I mean what happened to march 7th and only minor delays and Axl's promise to get the album out as soon as possible if they miss the tentative date. Seems to me 7 months is more than a minor delay and should be at least acknowledged by the band.  How can you throw away all the momentum of the tour and not follow it up with album.  This is really absurd. Also why cancel dates last december to get the #1 priority, the album, out and still not get it out??  I mean seriously if Axl doesn't get this album out soon, I fear that the band will break up. How long can Robin, Ron, Richard, etc. stay in a band that won't release their work. I am sure they want the world to hear original music.  It has been 5 years since the first chinese democracy tour and over a year since the hammerstein comeback show when axl dropped the hockey jersey and came back kicking ass.  Either put the album out or shut down the site and stop jerking the fans around with this fiasco.  I love axl, gnr and the music but this is getting to be a utter joke. I can't even defend the band to my friends anymore. 

[Fingers]

A Dec. or Jan release would not be a good idea-at this point for marketing he would be better off waiting until after the holidays-magazines tend to go with year end issues, greatest hits and boxed sets usually are pushed around the holidays-I'd like to see him get cover stories on a lot of magazines

[RoCoKiN]

90 days until 08'
Don't see it happening, I mean what happened to march 7th and only minor delays and Axl's promise to get the album out as soon as possible if they miss the tentative date. Seems to me 7 months is more than a minor delay and should be at least acknowledged by the band.? How can you throw away all the momentum of the tour and not follow it up with album.? This is really absurd. Also why cancel dates last december to get the #1 priority, the album, out and still not get it out??? I mean seriously if Axl doesn't get this album out soon, I fear that the band will break up. How long can Robin, Ron, Richard, etc. stay in a band that won't release their work. I am sure they want the world to hear original music.? It has been 5 years since the first chinese democracy tour and over a year since the hammerstein comeback show when axl dropped the hockey jersey and came back kicking ass.? Either put the album out or shut down the site and stop jerking the fans around with this fiasco.? I love axl, gnr and the music but this is getting to be a utter joke. I can't even defend the band to my friends anymore.?

I agree 100% with your post 

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Its getting to the point where I can't come up with a reason why it is taking so long.

Wonder who will put out a CD first, GNR or VH with DLR?

[russtcb]

Its getting to the point where I can't come up with a reason why it is taking so long.

Wonder who will put out a CD first, GNR or VH with DLR?

As big of a fan of GNR as I am, I'd say VH w/ DLR first. And I don't mean a hits package, I mean a new studio record.

[Lucky]

there are 13 tuesdays left in 2007!

[Fingers]

Its getting to the point where I can't come up with a reason why it is taking so long.

Wonder who will put out a CD first, GNR or VH with DLR?

I'm a huge Van Halen fan-it's been frustrating with these 2 bands-it's been 10 years since a Van Halen album (I was not impressed with the 3 new Sammy songs). Oh well

[RoCoKiN]

there are 13 tuesdays left in 2007!

As silly as that press release was last year, atleast it gave us hope...right up until the final Tuesday.  I'd love to hear another silly press release like that...too bad Merck is gone.

[GNRreunioneventually]

90 days until 08'
Don't see it happening, I mean what happened to march 7th and only minor delays and Axl's promise to get the album out as soon as possible if they miss the tentative date. Seems to me 7 months is more than a minor delay and should be at least acknowledged by the band.? How can you throw away all the momentum of the tour and not follow it up with album.? This is really absurd. Also why cancel dates last december to get the #1 priority, the album, out and still not get it out??? I mean seriously if Axl doesn't get this album out soon, I fear that the band will break up. How long can Robin, Ron, Richard, etc. stay in a band that won't release their work. I am sure they want the world to hear original music.? It has been 5 years since the first chinese democracy tour and over a year since the hammerstein comeback show when axl dropped the hockey jersey and came back kicking ass.? Either put the album out or shut down the site and stop jerking the fans around with this fiasco.? I love axl, gnr and the music but this is getting to be a utter joke. I can't even defend the band to my friends anymore.?

i can't agree more with you there in that post if i tried

post of the year for that one

[Butch Français]

90 days until 08'
Don't see it happening, I mean what happened to march 7th and only minor delays and Axl's promise to get the album out as soon as possible if they miss the tentative date. Seems to me 7 months is more than a minor delay and should be at least acknowledged by the band.  How can you throw away all the momentum of the tour and not follow it up with album.  This is really absurd. Also why cancel dates last december to get the #1 priority, the album, out and still not get it out??  I mean seriously if Axl doesn't get this album out soon, I fear that the band will break up. How long can Robin, Ron, Richard, etc. stay in a band that won't release their work. I am sure they want the world to hear original music.  It has been 5 years since the first chinese democracy tour and over a year since the hammerstein comeback show when axl dropped the hockey jersey and came back kicking ass.  Either put the album out or shut down the site and stop jerking the fans around with this fiasco.  I love axl, gnr and the music but this is getting to be a utter joke. I can't even defend the band to my friends anymore. 

i can't agree more with you there in that post if i tried

post of the year for that one

yeah, good post.
Im not really waiting anymore though, I would have turned insane by now if I was.
I'll just take it as it comes. if it ever is released, then brilliant! I'll get it right away!

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Yeah, it's too late I think.

But what do I know?  It doesn't really bother me or anything.

[Jim Bob]

yea prolly.. and of course its nothing anything to get bothered about.  when it is ready to come out, it will come out.   i've always felt that way, so whether its 2007, 2008, 2009, the time WILL come and that will be cool.  until then, I have other things to worry about.

[GeraldFord]

It can still happen, but the ball would need to get rolling soon in terms of promotion.

[CSS]

I've said that I believe that it'll come out since the year of 2007 started, and I'm sticking with my words.

But I also see the possibility of GN'R to choose and release it in early 2008, but with an announcement this year.

Anything can happen...

[Voodoochild]

^ same here.


I just think it's not too late for 2007 yet. It still can happen. Maybe not probably, but still...

[Nightfall]

it's scary....the spicegirls can manage to bring out a greatest hits + new single this year and GN'R still can't

[gav]

Just wanted to gauge whether or not people still think we might see it this year?

[CheapJon]

stop beating the dead horse

[gav]

The most crucial question fans want an answer to and you claim I'm beating a dead horse?

[CheapJon]

i just think this question has been asked to death..


me myself i don't think about an release date.. i dunno if i think it comes out in december 2007 or may 2012.. the sooner the better of course but i don't think about it

[AxlsMainMan]

What I said 2 months ago:

Personally, I think its getting a bit late in the year for the release of the album, or even another tour to be organized.

Therefore, the best thing I think the band can do is to continue handling the business and release arrangements surrounding the album for the remainder of the year, and start from scratch in 2008 with a brand new World Tour, and perhaps a brand new album in tow.

[CaughtMeInaComa]

I bet it will be out on june 6th 2008!
huh? maybe? maybe they got their years mixed up?
HAHA HAAA HAHA! 

[ibelieveinaxl]

i'd have to say yes....hope im wrong....

[martyngnr]

Another year goes past and another huge bunch of fans lose interest!....not me though! Axl is god! And so is Mr Rose! 

[Voodoochild]

Who cares? They all will be back once it gets released.

Every other year there's the same talk about people jumping of the wagon and then, when something pops out (leaks, shows..), they all get excited again.

[bodine]

Technically no, as there are still exactly 8 Tuesdays left in 2007. 

[GNRreunioneventually]

why don't we trash this thread or change the name to "Too late for '08" instead of pissing around with whats left in '07

[CSS]

What the fuck? Too late for 2008?

It's still two months left in the year of 2007 - but I'm not saying that anything will happen within that timeframe, even though all the possibility in the world is there.

And I seriously believe that Guns N' Roses will make an announcement regarding the album before Christmas, release date or not.

[guns_n_motley]

its too late for a relese in 2007. bach had to hand in his album done/finished with cover art etc. by august to get it out for christmas

[GNRreunioneventually]

What the fuck? Too late for 2008?

i say to late for '08 because i garen-damn-tee you that we'll all be in a thread just like this one next year, however, i pray that i am way, way wrong.

And I seriously believe that Guns N' Roses will make an announcement regarding the album before Christmas, release date or not.

i hope you are right mam

[evander1129]

JARMO-
When will you give up on a 2007 release date? I know you have said before you thought it would be out this year. You truly are their biggest fan, so when do you give up on a 07 release or have you already?

[DemocracyRose]

JARMO-
When will you give up on a 2007 release date? I know you have said before you thought it would be out this year. You truly are their biggest fan, so when do you give up on a 07 release or have you already?

Does it matter if jarmo gives up on a 07 release?

We all now it aint coming this year. Maybe an announcement or a new single. But no CD this year.

[novemberparadise23]

i hope now that we've heard that the record is in the court of the record company that at least negotiations are ongoing and hopefully will be complete soon.

[CSS]

No chance for 2007

Technically, there still is...

On a serious note: There is plenty of time for an announcement to be made.

Do I believe that it'll happen? Yes.

[ibelieveinaxl]

No chance for 2007

Technically, there still is...

On a serious note: There is plenty of time for an announcement to be made.

Do I believe that it'll happen? Yes.

i hope you are right. but i just cant see it happening. there has been no news, none. the cd is not on interscopes release calander. it takes several months to set up a release. i have heard and seen nothing to indicate to me that the cd release is in motion. i hope im dead wrong...

[CSS]

Just because things haven't reached the public eye doesn't mean that things can't be in motion.

But what do we know? Nothing, really.

I'm just ruling for the best option.

[ibelieveinaxl]

Just because things haven't reached the public eye doesn't mean that things can't be in motion.

But what do we know? Nothing, really.

I'm just ruling for the best option.

oh, i agree, but its been this way for many years...as i said, i hope im dead wrong...

[CSS]

oh, i agree, but its been this way for many years...as i said, i hope im dead wrong...

Well, it doesn't really matter - because it's not in our hands and it never has been.

All we can do is wait for something to happen and it will. Eventually.

[ibelieveinaxl]

oh, i agree, but its been this way for many years...as i said, i hope im dead wrong...

Well, it doesn't really matter - because it's not in our hands and it never has been.

All we can do is wait for something to happen and it will. Eventually.

that's actually a great statement. no matter what, the excuses, the delays, whatever...it doesnt matter. bottom line is that we don't have it...its really that simple. we seem to get caught up in all these possible delays, etc which i guess keeps us busy. but bottom line, we dont have it. well said.

[Crowebar]

how much would people pay for Chinese Democracy right now?

if I was rich and I had the money I'd pay at least 10 dollars for it.     

[gcluskey]

No album this year. I can guarantee that!! It'll be spring/summer next year! Betcha!!!

[neon2002]

Yes it's to late for a 2007 release.
Now we have the usual February of next year rumours...