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« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2005, 09:51:33 PM »


Not mad,  confused but influenced by childhood? Like he have a long police record and misdemenaour...
Thanks 4 that article ?Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2005, 09:53:35 PM »

Hate to always go back to this, but Brian May was right. ?Axl has spent all this time looking for another Slash. ?A guy that can feel his emotion on guitar like Slash could. ?Also someone like Izzy to bring it together. ?Its like the album is Estranged in it's early stages. ?Rose reached a dead end with estranged, until he gave it to Slash, and Slash turned it into a masterpiece. ?Now he doesn't have the key ingrediants that could possibly understand him. ?All his men are hired replacements that can't gauge where he wants to go. ?Since it is his own show, he can't admit it now. ?This is just a horrible divorce, now he is looking for a new wife. ?His ex wife, Duff and Slash, are remarried and happy. ?He is more miserable now then ever. ?It is so sad. ?I hope he releases it one day, but he now stands all alone on the album. ?Everything now falls on him. ?He is crumbling under the pressure. ?Younggunner, you are just blindly defending him. ?He is too far gone. ?Too hurt. ?Too uninspired to get this focker out. ?Its not about when he is "ready." ?Its about right now he is so focking scared that he doesn't know what in the hell to do. ?I think he just needs somebody to love him for who he is. ?And he doesn't have that.............with anyone. ?He is just a very hurt person. ?I hope he gets better, weather he releases the album or not.
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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2005, 10:03:41 PM »

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Axl admitted this point in an interview in 1999. That was either in "rolling stones magazine" or in "classic-rock". But we're in 2005, I don't know if he still thinks that.
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« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2005, 10:18:05 PM »

probably true.  however, it would have helped if he had found that person at an earlier date.  that way he may have found a direction to focus.  I understand he is one of the greatest frontmen ever, but after a while I begin to wonder how much he has drastically changed to where he may no longer be the genious we once thought he was.  Its almost like we should just throw all his old shit at the window cause he is not that Axl Rose anymore.
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« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2005, 10:22:24 PM »

This is just a horrible divorce, now he is looking for a new wife. ?His ex wife, Duff and Slash, are remarried and happy.

This is a sentence I never thought i'd be reading  nervous

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« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2005, 10:34:52 PM »

man, i wish i knew about this sooner. My husband was delivering next door to a NY Times building today. I could have asked him to sneak in and see if he could swipe a copy of the paper!  Wink  Seriously tho, if the two articles are pretty much the same, it doesn't sound lile the best news.
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« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2005, 10:37:01 PM »

That article does not say anything new, we all know about what happened before 1999. Josh Freese told us and so did Finck when he left the first time. ?There was no real news given about what happened since 1999. Its just another article trying to diss axl without giving any new news, Why not interview the last few producers/composers axl worked with like Buckmaster or beltrami . Those are the guys that worked with axl last and would give a better idea of what state the album is in, don?t you think? That article could have been written in 1999 (since that is where it ends). I really do not see how it can be a new article since
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« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2005, 10:55:19 PM »

The posturing by the band members is probably a way to encourage axl and to keep hope alive.



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« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2005, 10:59:12 PM »

Why not interview the last few producers/composers axl worked with like Buckmaster or beltrami . Those are the guys that worked with axl last and would give a better idea of what state the album is in, don?t you think?

Normally, this would be a better route to go, but in this case it's the gag order, bro.
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« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2005, 11:00:53 PM »

Thanks Booker.  It was a sobering read.  They called the album a white elephant - but I'm holding onto the hope that it will be of value (to me at least).


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Was that the most recent photo we saw?  Axl in braids and jeans with some other people standing in front of his car.
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This is just a horrible divorce, now he is looking for a new wife.  His ex wife, Duff and Slash, are remarried and happy.

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Thanks buddy, I think its a great analogy.
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Thanks buddy, I think its a great analogy.

Yes me too, although it did make me laugh out loud when I first read it, it just looked funny!
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« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2005, 11:48:48 PM »

yup, it made me laugh. i knew i would catch some sheot writing that, anyway, whatever.  I downloaded the halifax 88 show from the bootleg section and it's pretty cool.  I hear that Scott and Dean are on good terms again.  I guess I wish for everyone to be cordial to each other again.  They don't have to get back together, just be nice to each other first.  I think Scott is getting sick of the GNR stuff.  He acted like a kid in an australian show when people put up an Axl banner.  He kicked them out. 
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« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2005, 11:56:08 PM »

I don't really know what to make of this.  Any of you ever see the movie "Wonder Boys?"  It's about this burnt out writer who once released a well-regarded masterpiece and has been working on an epic follow-up, while teaching a writing class. 

Anyways, Katie Holmes plays one of his students, and she gets her hands on the manuscript (which takes up several large boxes)  without his permission, reads it, and then tells him "You know how you're always telling us that writing is about making choices?  Well, it's like you didn't make any." 

To me, that's what it seems like is happening to our hero, here.  A million different ideas emanating from a brilliant mind, almost faster than he can keep up with them.  A mind so full of creative force that there is no room left for any type of editing mechanism. 

Hate to play armchair shrink, here.  I really do.  Unfortunately I have no music to analyze, so I have to analyze the musician. 

It makes me sad...
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« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2005, 12:01:00 AM »

All his men are hired replacements that can't gauge where he wants to go. ?Since it is his own show, he can't admit it now. ?This is just a horrible divorce, now he is looking for a new wife.
pfft... no!

In this article it doesn't seem he is very much involved in makin the music, so is not an axl rose-album
It's an album made by musicians in which music they make, he has taken a like-in to and addin his voice to.? ok
Sure will have a lot foundation and songs started by axl on it too? beer
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« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2005, 12:21:12 AM »

I don't really know what to make of this.  Any of you ever see the movie "Wonder Boys?"  It's about this burnt out writer who once released a well-regarded masterpiece and has been working on an epic follow-up, while teaching a writing class. 

Anyways, Katie Holmes plays one of his students, and she gets her hands on the manuscript (which takes up several large boxes)  without his permission, reads it, and then tells him "You know how you're always telling us that writing is about making choices?  Well, it's like you didn't make any." 

To me, that's what it seems like is happening to our hero, here.  A million different ideas emanating from a brilliant mind, almost faster than he can keep up with them.  A mind so full of creative force that there is no room left for any type of editing mechanism. 

Hate to play armchair shrink, here.  I really do.  Unfortunately I have no music to analyze, so I have to analyze the musician. 

It makes me sad...

that is a terrific analogy. couldn't have expressed it better.
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« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2005, 12:26:21 AM »

I hear that Scott and Dean are on good terms again.

Really??? Where'd you read that?? That is good news. I hope one day STP reform and make music together, I like VR a lot but i'm a huge fan of STP and I prefer the music they made together (awaits the abuse  nervous  ).
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« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2005, 12:49:24 AM »

much of this article has to deal with the initial stages of post illusion era. The same era we were discussing in another thread. This adds more validty to the argument that from 94-98/99, Axl didnt do much regarding the direction of the band. Which i swhat I have been saying all along. For all that are jumping on the train now...noe of this article has to do much with the present. It sheds light on what occurred during a misinterpreted era.
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« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2005, 01:21:37 AM »

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« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2005, 01:23:13 AM »

I don't really know what to make of this.? Any of you ever see the movie "Wonder Boys?"? It's about this burnt out writer who once released a well-regarded masterpiece and has been working on an epic follow-up, while teaching a writing class.?

Anyways, Katie Holmes plays one of his students, and she gets her hands on the manuscript (which takes up several large boxes)? without his permission, reads it, and then tells him "You know how you're always telling us that writing is about making choices?? Well, it's like you didn't make any."?

To me, that's what it seems like is happening to our hero, here.? A million different ideas emanating from a brilliant mind, almost faster than he can keep up with them.? A mind so full of creative force that there is no room left for any type of editing mechanism.?

Hate to play armchair shrink, here.? I really do.? Unfortunately I have no music to analyze, so I have to analyze the musician.?

It makes me sad...

excellent analagy, & excellent movie. ok
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