Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Hey guys, sorry I have not been posting for a while.  I just haven't  had the time.  A lot has happened in the GNR world since I've last posted here and this is how I view it:

1. Axl's letter is much better news than you think it is:
He was very straightforward and honest about the reason for a delay (Buckethead's departure) and he says there will be a release date coming in the next few months.  

Axl has never lied about the release date despite what many of you would think. Any plans of release dates were "leaked" by unreliable sources and one post wonders never heard from again.  Axl himself said that "soon is not the word" in 2002 and he was right.  Just because he apparentely said something at the Led Zeppelin release party and Richard said something at one of his shows doesn't mean it's true.  Both were rumors from unreliable sources that were never heard from again.  

Mysteron and Aunt Ger are the only ones that are of some relation to the band and are reliable.  Not some one post (or even 300 post) wonder who says that his sister's friend's Aunt's son's friend works close to GNR.

2. The problem was clearly identified and explained

As I said earlier, Axl said what the delay was for and it was Buckethead's erratic behavior and large ego.  Axl is someone who does give a chance to his bandmates proven by his reluctant acceptance to try the Slash's Snakepit songs 9 years ago before noticing they were crap.

Axl is a smart business man. He wouldn't alienate Buckethead or anyone else because he knows they are marketable and benificial to the band .  If Axl was so bad, the whole band would leave and we would actually hear about his  behavior.  Buckethead is a media-whore shown by his many many guest appearances on albums and probably could not take the slow pace it took to make 3 albums.


3. Axl isn't as bad and uncaring as many of you think:

People always say about how Axl causes riots and cancels concerts, but they tend to forgot that it's caused by themselves or because of a reason.  

On the Use your Illusion Tour, an array of stuff was thrown on stage by incredibly moronic fans.  It included a stray bullet, a bottle of piss (which knocked Duff out cold and therefore ended the concert and people semi rioted),and even a firecracker. Of course, though, your rock "heroes" are supposed to perform for you even though you are being complete morons.  

Axl always has a reason. People tend to forgot that he's bi-polar and very mentally unstable and that his mood can change very easily (which was shown by the St. Louis Incident).

On the Chinese Democracy Tour, there was another problem.  It all started when Axl was told the wrong time to arrive for the Vancouver show by the Clear Channel promoters and was delayed at the airport.  He even explained it in full in the Tacoma radio interview, but that wasn't good enough for you.  

Instead of apologizing to the crowd and GNR fans, Clear Channel let way for a chaotic riot with moron jock fans who didn't deserve to see GNR in the first place.  The lack of apology or explanation not heard other than in Tacoma hurt sales in other cities which were already struggling because of complete lack of promotion.

The Philly show was very fishy as well.  If they knew Axl wasn't going to be there it would have been indicated much earlier than 11:00 p.m. and Axl would have said something.

He could have very well had a gag order because he has informed us about cancellations before (such as Rio 4 and the 2001 tour) and I really don't think it would like him to not comment on something like that.

i think u make gd points.axl cant be 2 blame 4 everything.i do feel positive after his statement  

I agree.great post

You're hilarious.   So this will be different than the many other things he's said will happen...........none of which have.

 

Did I miss some proof that showed that either of them were legit.


Oh too funny, Axl blaming somebody else.  Same shit different year.  Erratic behavior.....large ego.......Axl defined clearly.


You are very entertaining with this crap.  Smart business man?? (gets paid and hasn't produced anything in over 10 years).


Oh my god finally...somebody on this board who knows him personally  ::)


Acceptable excuse huh?  So spouse abusers who have a reason for being abusive should be excused too?


Oh my god...surprise, surprise...........yet it again it was somebody else's fault.  You have truly enlightened me.


Yes of course because you know him personally.  Thank god you've explained it cuz now I feel better about being in the middle of that riot.

And oh my god.........yet again it is SOMEBODY else's fault.


Again cuz you know him so well.

axl wil lnever get his shit together enough to put "chinese democracy" out. i love guns n roses as much as anyone here on this board but lets face it. he's completely unreliable.

Well Fiona, thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us, and thanks for announcing your return.  God knows we all were in chaotic dispair without your presence on the forums.    :P

What's really laughable is you say that nobody is a reliable source of information except Aunt Ger and Mysteron, yet you present yourself as someone who is "in the know", as you teenagers like to say.

And Axl gave numerous general release dates himself.  They've been discussed many times.

 :beer:   Exactly.   Well said.

Well mabey he hasn't lied.  But he has certainly failed to come thru with stated target dates.  That's a fact.

-F

well Axl should probably just release the CD and retire , probavbly VR guys can chuck out Weiland if he keeps on being a screwup and get Izzy and Axl in , .... I know a long shot but who knows...

Agreed : ok:

Great Post.  : ok:

True.
Or he should just retire now.

Maybie not for everything but he can be to blame because of 3 quarters of everything. :hihi:

Are you sure he hasn't already retired?  He may as well have