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Title: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: jimmythegent on June 03, 2005, 12:13:57 AM
Friday, June 03, 2005
"Axl's Chinese Democracy is crap"
EXCLUSIVE - Tune in this Sunday June 5, 2005 as original Guns N' Roses drummer Steven Adler, now on the road with his band Adler's Appetite, talks about Axl Rose, how the singer threatened to kill him, the long overdue Chinese Democracy album, drug addiction in the Guns N' Roses camp and why he was thrown out of the band.

"Axl ruins it not for himself and for the rest of us (Slash, Izzy, Duff, Steven) but he ruins it for the fans. We all know he is great but he has his moments, well lots of moments... he's a jackass basically, a fucking weirdo, and he can kiss my ass" says Alder.


About Chinese Democracy: "If he puts it out he thinks he'll sell 20 million copies. Well, maybe he's lucky if he goes gold. There's no hits on it, it's crap."

Steven Adler does not rule out a reunion with all original Guns N' Roses band members but sets one precondition: "I have to punch [Axl Rose] in the face. I have to get one good shot at him first. The fucker has waisted so much of my time, so much of people's times."

To be broadcast this Sunday during Guns N' Roses Hour (regular listeners note the timeteble - Guns N' Roses Hour is now broadcast later in the day).
The Rock Radio online

http://www.therockradio.com/2005/06/axls-chinese-democracy-is-crap.html

what I find interesting is that he acts like he's heard it??




Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Voodoochild on June 03, 2005, 12:16:37 AM
Nah. Of course he's full of shit. He thinks CD is crap? Yeah, right, Adler's Appetite is the coolest thing ever, huh? :puke:


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: jimmythegent on June 03, 2005, 12:19:38 AM
Nah. Of course he's full of shit. He thinks CD is crap? Yeah, right, Adler's Appetite is the coolest thing ever, huh? :puke:

yes I doubt he's heard it, in fact I wonder about the credibilty of the journalism in this instance as he's never come out with anything quite so barbed as this before.

I havent heard Adlers Appetite and to be honest, I have no desire to


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: jazjme on June 03, 2005, 12:22:02 AM
What a fuckin loser crack head!!!!! :rant:


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: ClintroN on June 03, 2005, 12:23:26 AM
Of course he hasnt heard it, he's full of shit!!

Im a fan of you Adler, dont fuck it up by speakin' crape!!


You've gotta get the fuck over it Adler, 15 years ago dude for fucks sake!!!!


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: gilld1 on June 03, 2005, 12:26:42 AM
You know things are seriously fucked up with GNR when, of all people, Adler tells a Axl to get his shit together. ?He's got some validity because he is touring or has recently.?  I am no Adler fan.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: fartinabag on June 03, 2005, 12:42:25 AM
If the original lineup ever gets back together I will personally punch that cracker Steven Adler in his grill.  Long live the current lineup.  Once CD is finally released Axl will regain his cult status as the Almighty Rock God.  Axl=ICON.    Steven "Popcorn" Adler= Washed Up 80's Warrior.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Mattattack on June 03, 2005, 01:05:05 AM
I wish Axl had killed Steven. He is a washed up faggot who sucked cock. 


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Gunner80 on June 03, 2005, 01:44:18 AM
I smell Dead Horse?.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: dENIS on June 03, 2005, 02:34:47 AM
I really can`t understand this sick MF! Steven is a big asshole really  :rant:
In some interviews he is in good attitude but in other like this he talks like insane. The drugs kills his brain.

STEVEN! Go and drown YOURSELF in toilet!   :drool:


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: gnrkoncerti on June 03, 2005, 02:45:01 AM
don't forget heroin can predict your temper


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: D on June 03, 2005, 04:28:03 AM
If u wanna know what pathetic is, just look at this guy.

Get over it, its over! CD not gonna go gold?

And I thought Adler stopped sucking on the glass dick? guess not.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: pekstein on June 03, 2005, 04:32:45 AM
isn't this the guy who sucked **** for money back in the day?


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: kupirock on June 03, 2005, 04:37:09 AM

About Chinese Democracy: "If he puts it out he thinks he'll sell 20 million copies. Well, maybe he's lucky if he goes gold. There's no hits on it, it's crap."

WTF !!?? Damn retard


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: pilferk on June 03, 2005, 07:48:00 AM
Adler has about as much chance of having heard CD as I have of getting it directly downloaded into my brain within the next 45 seconds. 

Axl's gonna make Steven buy a copy, just like the rest of us, so anything Adler has to say about CD, prior to release, is just sour grape flavored, unfounded, opinion.  Adler, more than any of the other former members, is bitter...unable to see that all the crap he complains about was brought on by his own actions.  Typical addict behavior: It's always someone else's fault...someone else pushing the plunger on the needle.

On his comments on a reunion.....even if it happened, I don't think Steven would be included.  And if he was, I hardly think he would like the REST of the bands conditions for his inclusion.  He might get to punch Axl in the face.....they're all going to want to kick him in the balls....and possilby raid his bank account to recoup some of the lawsuit proceeds they were forced to pay out to him.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: WARose on June 03, 2005, 08:28:20 AM
steven adler is a fuckin loser  what did he do except some drumming on appetite??  nothing worth to mention i think...

and almost 20 years after the release of appetite he calls his band adler`s appetite and crys because there is no gnr reunion....  shut up!!   i can`t read is crappy comments on a reunion or chinese democracy anymore...


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: GunnerRose on June 03, 2005, 10:42:46 AM
A follow up question to Mr. Adler "When was the last time Axl Rose wasted a minute of your time?"

Another question....Steven, would you still be sucking dick in bathrooms stalls if you had never met Axl Rose?


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Jamie on June 03, 2005, 10:53:33 AM
Adler is just a clown, if he hates Axl so much and thinks he is a waste of time or whatever, why is he in, for the most part, a GnR cover band? And why does every time he is interviewed mention GnR/GnR reunion? If he hates Axl as much as he claims to he simply would not speak of him, instead of moaning about him and CD every chance he gets.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Neemo on June 03, 2005, 11:15:39 AM
If they do a reunion (whatever, but, in theory) I hope Steven doesn't do backup vocals? :hihi: unless they played you ain't the first or something he could do the intro :rofl:


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Izzy on June 03, 2005, 11:17:06 AM
What is this man's problem? Last week in an interview he wished Axl well - now he runs his mouth and just speaks crap, the man is deranged :no:


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: J? on June 03, 2005, 12:48:29 PM
I would like to congrulate Matt Sorum on the fact for not being as big of a shit talker as Steven Adler. I mean Matto does it but he doesnt do it so excessively.

So Matt Sorum's stock if a G N R reunion ever occured is looking pretty good


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: RichardNixon on June 03, 2005, 12:49:41 PM
FUCK STEVEN ADLER!


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Buddha_Master on June 03, 2005, 01:09:15 PM
Adler is just bitter because Axl didn't let him suck his dick for some drugs.

Fuck Steven and Fuck a GNR reunion. How gay, I hope that never happens. I just want something new now from Axl. I want CD to be out and be a fucking monster. I want Axl to make enough money from Chinese D, that he won't ever need to do a reunion. I think that would be so beyond gay, it would be even more of an embarrassement then this waiting game we are playing.

I would much rather see Buckethead, Slash, Finck, Duff, and Finck just fuck jam together. Even for a moment to have to see Axl perform with Slash. I say fuck that.



Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Walapino on June 03, 2005, 01:26:43 PM
looooooooooooool


I would love to see a fight between the two weirdest GNR members.

Anyway Adler might blame other people but Axl doest it too, he always blames promoters, record companies, ex members, some bitch,etc so they are even there.

Adlers comments on CD are completetly out of line as the CD doesnt exist yet so whatever.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: jarmo on June 03, 2005, 02:02:42 PM
Maybe Steven is just getting tired of being asked about GN'R....




/jarmo


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Neemo on June 03, 2005, 02:48:11 PM
Maybe Steven is just getting tired of being asked about GN'R....




/jarmo

I doubt it, nobody has cared about him in years. :rofl: :rofl: And now people wanna talk to him, he's probably loving every second. As to the conflicting things he says, hell he probably can't even remember what he did 5 minutes ago. :rofl:


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Koek on June 03, 2005, 03:18:09 PM
Hello!

I'm new here, but I post already for a long period at other forums.
I'm reading all these comments you people have on Adler.
I have a question, whose being the asshole.....................right Axl
He let us wait for at least 10 years for some decent material. He does some touring, big plans he would come to Holland and what happens he does some concerts cancels the rest and that's it. I think it will be a good c(hinese)d(emocracy), but if I was Adler than I would probably say the same.
Adler on the other hand, got finally his shit back together, playing, touring. So he's definatively no loser, in fact he's the winner.
But I think all you people are axl lovers and blind to see the real life.
And then another thing It's so easy to say "oww he's on drugs, yeah heroin does that with you"
Well he stopped heroin and that's a big personal victory, so whose the loser??


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: PhillyRiot on June 03, 2005, 03:30:45 PM
He is bad mouthing an album we will probably never hear, so I am not sure what to make of this.

But instead of being negative, I will say this:  Steven's yapping will not help if we ever get a reunion going with the original GNR members.  For that reason, I wish Steven would stop talking about Axl.  For that reason and that reason alone.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Vicious Wishes on June 03, 2005, 03:34:02 PM
Hello!

I'm new here, but I post already for a long period at other forums.
I'm reading all these comments you people have on Adler.
I have a question, whose being the asshole.....................right Axl
He let us wait for at least 10 years for some decent material. He does some touring, big plans he would come to Holland and what happens he does some concerts cancels the rest and that's it. I think it will be a good c(hinese)d(emocracy), but if I was Adler than I would probably say the same.
Adler on the other hand, got finally his shit back together, playing, touring. So he's definatively no loser, in fact he's the winner.
But I think all you people are axl lovers and blind to see the real life.
And then another thing It's so easy to say "oww he's on drugs, yeah heroin does that with you"
Well he stopped heroin and that's a big personal victory, so whose the loser??

Sounds like Steven is obsessed with an Axl/GnR reunion. Every interview, he's got something to say on the subject.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Neemo on June 03, 2005, 03:42:29 PM
Hello!

I'm new here, but I post already for a long period at other forums.
I'm reading all these comments you people have on Adler.
I have a question, whose being the asshole.....................right Axl
He let us wait for at least 10 years for some decent material. He does some touring, big plans he would come to Holland and what happens he does some concerts cancels the rest and that's it. I think it will be a good c(hinese)d(emocracy), but if I was Adler than I would probably say the same.
Adler on the other hand, got finally his shit back together, playing, touring. So he's definatively no loser, in fact he's the winner.
But I think all you people are axl lovers and blind to see the real life.
And then another thing It's so easy to say "oww he's on drugs, yeah heroin does that with you"
Well he stopped heroin and that's a big personal victory, so whose the loser??


Congrats t o him for breaking his addiciton but Adler's still the loser, cause he's all fucked up, have you heard him talk?

and all he does is talk about Axl, Duff, Slash and Izzy so he gets some media attention, wow he's a former drummer from GnR, who gives a shit, aside from drums he probably had no real input to the band and was very easily replaced by Sorum. When I think of Adler all I can see is him from the patience video, sitting there with drum sticks in his hair rolling his eyes, basically he's a useless jackass. And his erratic recent quotes prove it.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: jameslofton29 on June 03, 2005, 04:04:14 PM
What I find strange about all this is how you guys think its impossible that the ex members have heard portions of CD. I think they have. I'm pretty sure they have sources close to the band. And if anyone in Axl's circle ever leaked anything, it would be leaked to ex bandmembers before it was leaked to the media. So I dont think people should say his 'CD is crap' quote is a lie. Maybe he did hear it, and he just didn't like it. Thats his opinion. It doesn't mean everyone will hate it. And the most depressing quote by an ex member was when Slash said there were no vocals recorded on CD. We know that there's at least a couple songs with vocals on them, but Slash's comments made my heart skip a beat.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: D on June 03, 2005, 04:23:36 PM
Im just imagining how bad Axl would beat his ass if Steven ever tried to punch him.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Jamie on June 03, 2005, 04:32:10 PM
Im just imagining how bad Axl would beat his ass if Steven ever tried to punch him.

Yeah! What's Steven on about? Sayin that there's one condition for him to do re-union! First of all, Axl wouldn't ever want to do the re-union, never mind on one condition, and never mind the condition being Steve gets to punch him! He's talkin like Axl's beggin him to do the re-union!


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Bill 213 on June 03, 2005, 05:14:41 PM
Just to answer Jarmo's comment, I would say Steven would NEVER get tired of being asked about GNR because it's his only claim to fame.  He's in a GNR cover band, he usually is the one that brings up the topic about GNR in most interviews, and lets face it.......the man is obsessed.
If a GNR reunion would ever happen, we know it would be Matt Sorum not Steven in the band.  Slash, Duff and Matt are a team and I think they'd stick together for the most part through any form of reunion.  Adler couldn't touch Sorum's drumming and wouldn't even come within a thousand yards of Brain's drumming.  I just think it's sad that this burnt out dude is trying to spark media interest by bad mouthing Axl, the man who's gf he tried to kill, and one of the greatest frontmen of all time.  You ask most people that weren't huge fans who were in GNR and you'll get Axl, Slash, Duff and Izzy.  Then there's always the I forget the drummer's name.  Adler will never be anything more than a washed up piece of shit junkie playing bars and county fairs. 


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Gunner80 on June 03, 2005, 07:06:36 PM
Everyone needs to stop the Steven bashing!! This is the man who helped give AFD its sound and has every right to be upset about the way everything turned out.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: nyd on June 03, 2005, 07:15:27 PM
Everyone needs to stop the Steven bashing!! This is the man who helped give AFD its sound and has every right to be upset about the way everything turned out.

Its hard to respect him when all he does is sell out. Im not an Axl fan either - I just think Steven is pathetic for giving interviews like this


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Butch Français on June 03, 2005, 07:27:30 PM
a lot of childish idol behavior around here...
isn't Steven Adler, a guy who, as opposed to us, actually knew Axl, allowed to have an opinion on Axl?
how is it that every time someone badmouths Axl, he's an idiot junkie and what not?

so what if he talks slurry, he had a fucking stroke! it doesn't mean his mind is not clear.
he basically had to learn to speak all over again after the stroke, if what Ive heard is correct. and that's most likely why he's got a hard time expressing himself now and then

and I think Jarmo might be right about what he said, the guy is playing around the world with his new band, and 70% of the questions he gets is about Axl. I would fuckin explode if I was him!
it's not true that he's the one that starts talking about GN'R in his interviews, in the ones Ive heard, it's the interviewer that ask about GN'R before he says anything about it.

I was gonna say a few more things, but I forgot them :hihi:
just wanted to say that most of you are acting like 12-year olds..


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: *Izzy* on June 03, 2005, 07:59:14 PM

Sounds like Steven is obsessed with an Axl/GnR reunion. Every interview, he's got something to say on the subject.
Maybey because he gets asked the question at every interview

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:



Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: ryan_of_lax on June 03, 2005, 08:01:45 PM
? He's in a GNR cover band, he usually is the one that brings up the topic about GNR in most interviews, and lets face it.......the man is obsessed.


So... when Steven plays GnR songs, its a cover band.

But when Axl's band plays the same songs, it's fine?

Both bands have just as many original GNR members.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Vicious Wishes on June 03, 2005, 08:04:46 PM
reporter: So Steven, have you heard from Axl lately? And what do you know/think about Chinese Democracy?
Steven: I really don't want to talk about that. I've got a new band now, etc.

You see, it's not that hard to avoid the subject. That is, of course, if you really wanted too.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: jimmythegent on June 03, 2005, 09:09:21 PM
steven adler is a fuckin loser? what did he do except some drumming on appetite??? nothing worth to mention i think...

and almost 20 years after the release of appetite he calls his band adler`s appetite and crys because there is no gnr reunion....? shut up!!? ?i can`t read is crappy comments on a reunion or chinese democracy anymore...

some pretty mean spirited and frankly disturbing posts on this one.
I was more interested in whether or not th guy had heard CD
and as far as "what did he do except some drumming on Appetite?"   :rofl:
you have to be joking right??


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: chineseblues on June 03, 2005, 09:20:25 PM
  He's in a GNR cover band, he usually is the one that brings up the topic about GNR in most interviews, and lets face it.......the man is obsessed.


So... when Steven plays GnR songs, its a cover band.

But when Axl's band plays the same songs, it's fine?

Both bands have just as many original GNR members.

Did steven actually write any of those song?  though not   : ok:


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Mikkamakka on June 04, 2005, 02:09:52 AM
? He's in a GNR cover band, he usually is the one that brings up the topic about GNR in most interviews, and lets face it.......the man is obsessed.


So... when Steven plays GnR songs, its a cover band.

But when Axl's band plays the same songs, it's fine?

Both bands have just as many original GNR members.

Did steven actually write any of those song?? though not? ?: ok:

During the last AA tour he played higher percent of  new material than Axl's Nu-GN'R. Both of them are cover bands. Period.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: D on June 04, 2005, 04:22:06 AM
If u hear GNR on a bootleg CD the only way u would be able to tell which group it was would be Axl's vocals.

many drummers can duplicate Steve

not many if any could ever duplicate Axl's vocals

big difference.

U let a casual fan hear any GNR song by the new band without telling them its a new band, they will say WOW GNR cool

U let that same fan hear a GNR song done by AA or even VR and they will say, who's that? that isnt GNR.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: IzzyDutch on June 04, 2005, 05:02:28 AM
? He's in a GNR cover band, he usually is the one that brings up the topic about GNR in most interviews, and lets face it.......the man is obsessed.


So... when Steven plays GnR songs, its a cover band.

But when Axl's band plays the same songs, it's fine?

Both bands have just as many original GNR members.

Did steven actually write any of those song?? though not? ?: ok:

He helped writing those songs, besides, songs like Think About You and Mr. Brownstone weren't written by Axl either : ok:


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Koskenkorvasieni on June 04, 2005, 05:06:36 AM
If u hear GNR on a bootleg CD the only way u would be able to tell which group it was would be Axl's vocals.

many drummers can duplicate Steve

not many if any could ever duplicate Axl's vocals

big difference.

U let a casual fan hear any GNR song by the new band without telling them its a new band, they will say WOW GNR cool

U let that same fan hear a GNR song done by AA or even VR and they will say, who's that? that isnt GNR.

You're kidding, right? When I first heard Finck play the solos on SCOM and November Rain I almost threw up in disgust. The guy is nowhere near as good as Slash. I'd say Slash is as much an essential element to the classic gnr sound as Axl's vocals.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: IzzyDutch on June 04, 2005, 05:08:24 AM
You can duplicate notes but not feeling and sound


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: badapple81 on June 04, 2005, 07:44:26 AM
I used to respect Adler for the fact that he eventually managed to get somewhat of a life back together. I somewhat felt sorry for his little sobbing act on Behind The Music.

The guy must be so bitter and fucked up over he fact that he got kicked out of GN'R before they became the biggest band in the world. Look at what he is doing now, drumming on some Appetite tunes and his own crap in crappy clubs whilst the world talks Velvet Revolver and the return of Axl.

Mouthing off just to get some of the attention. Pathetic.

The only tunes from the album that we have heard already would probably be Madagascar, Chinese Democracy and The Blues. What the fuck would he know?



Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: thejungle on June 04, 2005, 09:16:51 AM
i really like adler and AA but this one seems to be the weirdest comment. he seems to make jokes in interviews and not realise how they can be taken out of context, but this one is worse than that sort of thing. hopefully brooker (?) can come on and clarify abit about what exactly is going on here.

the problem is the only thing coming out of the AA camp at the moment is adler mouthing off. i think he should lay off the Axl bashing just cos he's coming out really poorly from it. i just wish they'd get back on the road and release something. the album should be announced anytime now really. at least then alder bashers can go from saying AA is a GNR cover band to just being a shit band (based on the idea they'll obviously not like them no matter what). he should just 'let the music do the talking' really.

stuff like this makes him look like a twat and gives his haters extra material to go on.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Bill 213 on June 04, 2005, 10:05:23 AM
? He's in a GNR cover band, he usually is the one that brings up the topic about GNR in most interviews, and lets face it.......the man is obsessed.


So... when Steven plays GnR songs, its a cover band.

But when Axl's band plays the same songs, it's fine?

Both bands have just as many original GNR members.

Well if you want to get technical, Steven Adler isn't an original GNR member? : ok:
But anyway I think the video for Patience says it best......The band is off doing their thing and Adler's setting on a couch sticking a drumstick up his ass.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Izzy on June 04, 2005, 10:06:10 AM
a lot of childish idol behavior around here...
isn't Steven Adler, a guy who, as opposed to us, actually knew Axl, allowed to have an opinion on Axl?
how is it that every time someone badmouths Axl, he's an idiot junkie and what not?

so what if he talks slurry, he had a fucking stroke! it doesn't mean his mind is not clear.


Thanks for that :confused:, perhaps u'd care to read what Adler said again - specifically this:

Quote
About Chinese Democracy: "If he puts it out he thinks he'll sell 20 million copies. Well, maybe he's lucky if he goes gold. There's no hits on it, it's crap.

But of course, he's heard the album! ::) Won't even go gold? That's a possibility! :hihi:

Because he knew Axl 15 years ago doesn't make his opinions on an album yet to be released valid.

I think if u ever needed proof his mind isn't clear, that one sentence is all u'd ever need



Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: LimeGreen_Engines on June 04, 2005, 10:09:50 AM
I think it's pretty funny that all you guys are so quick to jump to the defence of Axl and diss Steve Adler when none of you even know Axl.

I think Steve should have a decent idea of what Axl's like as a person. All you guys do is big Axl's records then act like he's your best mate and you know all about him.

If Steve says Axl's a cunt. I can believe it.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: jarmo on June 04, 2005, 10:46:27 AM
If Steve says Axl's a cunt. I can believe it.

If somebody else says the opposite, will you believe that?




/jarmo


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: chineseblues on June 04, 2005, 12:12:40 PM
I think it's pretty funny that all you guys are so quick to jump to the defence of Axl and diss Steve Adler when none of you even know Axl.

I think Steve should have a decent idea of what Axl's like as a person. All you guys do is big Axl's records then act like he's your best mate and you know all about him.

If Steve says Axl's a cunt. I can believe it.

Adler hasn't even been around Axl in 15 years. I'm pretty sure he don't know crap about Axl anymore, hell I'm pretty sure he has to be reminded of who he actually is everyday.  :P


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Butch Français on June 04, 2005, 01:48:24 PM
? He's in a GNR cover band, he usually is the one that brings up the topic about GNR in most interviews, and lets face it.......the man is obsessed.


So... when Steven plays GnR songs, its a cover band.

But when Axl's band plays the same songs, it's fine?

Both bands have just as many original GNR members.

Did steven actually write any of those song?? though not? ?: ok:

He helped writing those songs, besides, songs like Think About You and Mr. Brownstone weren't written by Axl either : ok:

yeah I know, I don't know how many times I have to remind people here that if some other drummer made the drum-parts for Appetite it would probably have sounded completely different!

think about if that Rob Gardener guy had made them, would probably have sounded like a crappy version of Iron Maiden..

and for the record D, I can hear whether it is Steven, Matt or Brain (I can hear that it's Brain from a mile away, he's my fav drummer and I know all his little diddles and patterns) who is playing the Appetite songs when i hear them live. and I can DEFINATELY tell the difference guitar-wise!
Steven is the only one of them that has the right feel to play those songs, simply cos he the one that made those drumparts! that's right, he wrote something!!

and if you go by what the average fan in the street is saying, of course the only thing he can recognize is Axl, it's simpy cos they don't know enough about the band to know and hear better! they know and notice Axl cos he was the most famous one in the band, and therefor the one they have always been paying attention to.

the bigger Axl-patriot you are, the bigger the chance that you are wrong while discussing something involving him.
mostly cos you can't see things from any other perspective. (this post is not directed to one person, apart from D's section ;D)


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: D on June 04, 2005, 03:50:38 PM
notice i stressed "casual" fan.

U all overlooked that.

What u said Hillel are the people I was talkin about

To casual fans they have no idea, also u cant compare Finck's playing live to Slash's playing on a recording, Slash's live playing is also flawed and off a lot as well.

of course a recorded version is gonna sound better, but live, Finck does better than any vocalist could do singing axl's parts.


drums are somewhat important but they arent as important as the vocals,vocal melodies,lyrics and guitar.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on June 04, 2005, 04:13:12 PM
Steven is one piece of trash for one minute he is talking about how Axl is a jackass but has talent and the next he is trying to say CD will suck. NO ONE BESIDES AXL KNOWS WHAT IS GOING TO BE ON THAT ALBUM.

Another thing, GNR and the original lineup will NEVER TOUR AGAIN. Izzy isnt interested in being in a huge band or he would be in VR now, or am I wrong? And if they did a reunion, even as much as Sorum talks shit about Axl I am sureif Axl picked between Sorum and Adler for a reunion he would pick Scortum, and to the General Public IF SLASH and AXL got together that would be considered a reunion.

On to the coked drummer.  How has Axl wasted so much of his time.  This looser got deep into the drugs.  Apartlenty he hasnt passed his 12 steps yet, because he needs to Apologise to Axl for being a coked out drummer and slowing down the UYI sessions.  And if anyone needs a punch in the face it's Adler. 

He lives of his 15 minutes of GnR fame by picking the name of his band to associate it with GnR and plays most of GnR's songs with a shitty singer.  Axl owes him nothing, If it wasnt for Axl steven would of been a nothing or a man who od'd, but thanks to Axl he has some claim to fame and can live off it instead of getting a real job.

And anyone who is in a crappy cover band (ADLER) can't say anything about CD.  Adler has had since 1990 to come up with some songs and I don't see him trying to make a career off them. 

Now that I think about ti more Axl shouldnt be punching Adler in the face, but all of the GnR fans should punch him in the face and tell him to shut the hell up and enjoy living off GnR.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: ppbebe on June 04, 2005, 04:33:45 PM
No need to get cross at him.

frank guy Brain says the album is immense. It all matters.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Twisted Nerve 85 on June 04, 2005, 05:42:08 PM
IS THIS GUY SCHITZO OR WHAT!!!? One minute hes saying "Oh Man I still got love for Axl and whatever he does I know will be a hit", and now fuck him this Chinese Democracy is crap I wanna punch the fucker in the face. I seriously think this guy is two different ppl.

But then again, they used to say the same thing about Axl back in GnR's hayday  :peace:


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Butch Français on June 04, 2005, 09:46:54 PM
notice i stressed "casual" fan.

U all overlooked that.

What u said Hillel are the people I was talkin about

To casual fans they have no idea, also u cant compare Finck's playing live to Slash's playing on a recording, Slash's live playing is also flawed and off a lot as well.

of course a recorded version is gonna sound better, but live, Finck does better than any vocalist could do singing axl's parts.


drums are somewhat important but they arent as important as the vocals,vocal melodies,lyrics and guitar.


drums are not what stand out in a song, unless it's real flashy drumming. but it shapes the song more than any other instrument, most people don't realize that.
if another drummer had written the drum-parts for Appetite, it would have had a different groove, the body of the song would have been different.

but whatever, Im sick of discussing this. fuck drummers, singers and guitarplayers are all that matters! (not directed at you, D) :peace:


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: plasmabeam on June 05, 2005, 12:23:31 AM
i find it hilarious how Adler thinks that CD has no hits when the thing hasn't even been released yet.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Lord Kayoss on June 05, 2005, 04:21:04 AM
Steven sounds a lot more worked up here than in his interview from the other day.  Has anyone actually heard any sound bytes or are these recent comments just supposed quotes?

And if they are accurate - where does Adler get off saying CD sucks?  I guess when he was hiding from the imaginary guy at his front door he was pretending to listen to CD to pass the time. ::)


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: LimeGreen_Engines on June 05, 2005, 11:01:33 AM
If Steve says Axl's a cunt. I can believe it.

If somebody else says the opposite, will you believe that?




/jarmo


Well yeah, if Slash said Axl is a "really on the ball", "sound" guy then maybe Axl might not be a total asshole after all. But Slash agrees with Steve and come to think of it so does all of the old band members.

And as far as you guys go, what do you have to go on? Axl fucking up his world tour, no showing at dates, walking off the stage after 15mins, jumping into the crowd to punch some one in the face.....etc etc the list goes on.

Looks,sounds and smells like a cunt to me.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on June 05, 2005, 12:34:41 PM
If Steve says Axl's a cunt. I can believe it.

If somebody else says the opposite, will you believe that?




/jarmo


Well yeah, if Slash said Axl is a "really on the ball", "sound" guy then maybe Axl might not be a total asshole after all. But Slash agrees with Steve and come to think of it so does all of the old band members.

And as far as you guys go, what do you have to go on? Axl fucking up his world tour, no showing at dates, walking off the stage after 15mins, jumping into the crowd to punch some one in the face.....etc etc the list goes on.

Looks,sounds and smells like a cunt to me.


I doubt slash agrees with Steven as in most recent interviews when he does say anything about Axl it is never something along the lines of being a cunt. I also doubt Duff agrees witht he cunt line because he has never said anything that bad, he just wants to go out and play music.  The only other former member to bitch about Axl and Complain about Axl's style is Sorum...... Maybe it is just a drummers thing to bitch about music.


ON A SIDE NOTE.   "IF" Axl was to call Adler today and say he needed a drummer you know Damn well Adler would be on the first Greyhound Bus out to California to do whatever Axl needs and kissing his Axl.  Adler is just jealous that he isnt in a succesful band like GnR or VR anymore.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: D on June 05, 2005, 05:15:36 PM
Maybe the reason CD has taken so long is cause there are no hits on it.

doesnt mean it sucks but maybe it doesnt have any radio friendly hits on it, no 3 minute pop songs.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: LimeGreen_Engines on June 05, 2005, 06:41:31 PM
Maybe the reason CD has taken so long is cause there are no hits on it.

doesnt mean it sucks but maybe it doesnt have any radio friendly hits on it, no 3 minute pop songs.


Why in the hell would 'not having any 3 minute pop songs' be the reason the CD has taken so long?!!?

What the fuck has that got to do with anything? There are thousands of great rock,metal albums with no 3 min pop songs on them that only took a couple of years to make.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: D on June 05, 2005, 11:13:19 PM
rumor has it Axl delivered CD to Geffen and they refused it which would mean they didnt feel it had any singles.

If Axl delivers an album of nothing but 6 minutes epics, Geffen will not release it no matter how great it is.

Axl will have to have 2 or 3 singles before Geffen will release this no matter how big of a masterpiece it is

I think this is the biggest reason for the delays, Axl wants to do CD his way but the record label is insisting on some 3 to 4 minute pop rock anthem hits.

to release an album u first have to sell it to your record label, if they dont hear some hits, they wont release it till they do.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: John Daniels on June 06, 2005, 10:26:16 AM
I think D could have a point here. I mean even Axl himself have told that the record will be out when record company feel that it has run its course.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Twisted Nerve 85 on June 06, 2005, 03:53:09 PM
notice i stressed "casual" fan.

U all overlooked that.

What u said Hillel are the people I was talkin about

To casual fans they have no idea, also u cant compare Finck's playing live to Slash's playing on a recording, Slash's live playing is also flawed and off a lot as well.

of course a recorded version is gonna sound better, but live, Finck does better than any vocalist could do singing axl's parts.


drums are somewhat important but they arent as important as the vocals,vocal melodies,lyrics and guitar.


drums are not what stand out in a song, unless it's real flashy drumming. but it shapes the song more than any other instrument, most people don't realize that.
if another drummer had written the drum-parts for Appetite, it would have had a different groove, the body of the song would have been different.

but whatever, Im sick of discussing this. fuck drummers, singers and guitarplayers are all that matters! (not directed at you, D) :peace:


The drums and the base are about 3/4's of the music and I dont js mean Rock.  :peace:


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: isabella on June 06, 2005, 04:41:05 PM
At least reporters are interested in talking to Steve. When was the last time a reporter bothered to talking to Axl.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: jameslofton29 on June 06, 2005, 05:54:03 PM
D, you make a very good point. Is the rejected CD rumor you're talking about a new rumor, or is it the one from several years ago? I remember when I told some people about that they thought I was crazy. But it happened. When Geffen/Interscope stopped funding CD, my heart skipped a beat. It was extremely bad news. Now there's no reason for him to hurry and release it. Now Axl is doing things on his own watch, not Geffen/Interscope/Sanctuary. And if CD gets rejected again, it will NEVER come out. But I dont think they'll reject it again. They just want to make some money back. It could have 10 "epics" on it, I dont think they'll give a damn. Geffen/Interscope is probably kicking themselves in the ass for rejecting it the first time. By releasing it the first time, it would have saved them millions of dollars.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: D on June 06, 2005, 10:22:48 PM
If u look at Guns career they havent had very many radio friendly hits, really only maybe Dont Cry,Patience and SCOM are the only songs u could call honest to goodness radio friendly hits.

GNR have never been a radio friendly band but back then it was when it was about the music and about the albums, now its all about the image and the singles.

GNR have never been a singles band

WTTJ wasnt a smash singles hit
PC doesnt fit today's single format
NR with its length doesnt fit singles format
YCBM doesnt fit singles format
Estranged doesnt

Im not implying that CD sucks quite the contrary I think it is gonna be the most amazing album ever.

NIN's "The Fragile" is considered a masterpiece and didnt even sell a million copies so record sales and hits dont necessarily define a masterpiece.

I just dont think the record label knows how to market and promote this unless Axl writes a few radio friendly hits to sell it to the casual target audience

Im just not sure axl is into that which is causing a lot of the delays.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Jamie on June 07, 2005, 05:45:34 AM
At least reporters are interested in talking to Steve. When was the last time a reporter bothered to talking to Axl.

I think the question is more; when was the last time Axl bothered talking to a reporter?


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: slash4ever on June 07, 2005, 11:54:11 AM
How the fuck does he know what it sounds like anyway? >:(
God he's full of shit. ::)


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Lord Kayoss on June 09, 2005, 03:13:50 AM
NIN's "The Fragile" is considered a masterpiece and didnt even sell a million copies

Which is a damn shame.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: duffsgal on June 09, 2005, 03:20:21 AM
You people should be ashamed of yourselves - call yourselves GN'R fans.? What a joke.? What the hell gives you the right to be so nasty and evil to someone that you havent met and dont know.? ? How would you like it if the roles were reversed and you were being abused by complete strangers who call themselves fans.? ?


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: D on June 09, 2005, 03:49:00 AM
A shame that its considered a masterpiece or a shame it didnt sell a million?


and Duffsgal when Steven Adler is talking bullshit and running his mouth against my hero W. Axl Rose, u are god damned right it pisses me off and Im gonna defend him.

I am a GNR fan, not a steven Adler fan.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Neemo on June 09, 2005, 10:52:52 AM

and Duffsgal when Steven Adler is talking bullshit and running his mouth against my hero W. Axl Rose, u are god damned right it pisses me off and Im gonna defend him.

I am a GNR fan, not a steven Adler fan.

What D said.

It pisses me off that he clings to Axl for fame after all these years. If people didn't want to hear shit about Axl then nobody would talk to this fucking guy. and it seems he has some kind of snide comment about Axl every time he speaks and that comment is usually contradictory to his previous statements. He's an Idiot, plain and simple


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: IzzyDutch on June 09, 2005, 05:38:28 PM
He's an Idiot, plain and simple

The biggest idiot is the one who destroyed GN'R ;)


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: D on June 09, 2005, 05:52:30 PM
technically one could say Slash,Duff and izzy destroyed Guns N Roses

they are the idiots who signed everything away to Axl, what a bunch of gutless bastards.

I love the old band but could they have been any more gutless?

Izzy quit on his own terms,Slash and Duff quit on their own terms

so one can say they destroyed the orginal band by quitting.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: hyperionmax2003 on June 09, 2005, 11:01:28 PM
Quote
technically one could say Slash,Duff and izzy destroyed Guns N Roses
they are the idiots who signed everything away to Axl, what a bunch of gutless bastards.
Posted on: Yesterday at 11:52:30 PM Posted by: D

Those gutless bastards did that to keep the band together.  Everyone deserves some blame on the destruction of the original GNR.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: joeyramone on June 09, 2005, 11:14:01 PM
Izzy, and especially Slash and Duff took so much shit in order to keep Guns up and running for as long as it did, I doubt UYI would ever have been released if that was not the case


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: duffsgal on June 10, 2005, 11:22:24 PM
Quote
Posted by: D-the legend of Journey's Pimp?
and Duffsgal when Steven Adler is talking bullshit and running his mouth against my hero W. Axl Rose, u are god damned right it pisses me off and Im gonna defend him.

Ok fair enough, Axl is your hero and you dont like hearing bad stuff said about him.? But how do you think people who like Steven feel when they read all the nasty shit said about Steven, and trust me it is way worse than what they say about Axl.? People accusing him of rape, saying he is retard, a has been, that he cant play.? Do you think that sort of stuff is necessary.? I think that some of you should follow the old saying 'if you have nothing nice to say, then dont say anything at all'.??

And for the record, that interview was done over two years ago, so was by no means a 'new' interview.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: D on June 11, 2005, 01:03:25 AM
Axl hasnt mentioned Steven since when? 91?



Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: chineseblues on June 11, 2005, 05:40:33 PM
he is retard, a has been, that he cant play

He is a retard
He is  a has been
and he cant play for shit anymore


So how is that bad? its the truth  : ok:


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: jarmo on June 11, 2005, 07:49:45 PM
he is retard, a has been, that he cant play

He is a retard
He is? a has been
and he cant play for shit anymore


So how is that bad? its the truth? : ok:


It's called an opinion.


In your case, your opinion is one that will start stupid fights. Just like when people who hate Axl post shit in the GN'R section or people who hate Slash post shit in the VR section.

It's boring.




/jarmo


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: jameslofton29 on June 11, 2005, 08:35:07 PM
Jarmo, I couldn't have said that better myself. I cant stand people who start petty arguments over nothing. It happens alot on these forums. I think some of these people aren't even GNR fans, they just like to antagonize people who are.


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: makane on July 12, 2005, 10:59:46 AM
Weird speaking on a GUNS N' ROSES forum, for gods sake he played on APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION and now everyones saying "i fucking hate him, i wish he had died".
seems like no one knows here how messed up and confused drugs can make you. i wish the guy all the best in he's life, maybe that interview wasn't hes best moment, but he has talked alot good too.
weird that people judge human on bases of an internet interview. who knows what like he's in real life, as a real person.

"Izzy quit on his own terms,Slash and Duff quit on their own terms"
If in your work someone puts cock into your ass all the time and then you quit, is it quitting by your own terms?


Title: Re: More Steven Adler comment on CD
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on August 10, 2005, 03:07:42 AM
Steven is so fucking cool too....

                                 @;----,-----.-------,--------------TPR       

PS I would like to see  :beer:the petition he makes...