Cd.com ?

[bumbleslash]

i dont think they would change they were VERY proud of there design, i must admit its the most importnat feature i look for in a board.

[Orgasmatron]

They changed designs many times, I joined late 2005 and saw 4-5 maybe 6 different designs..

[mrbucketfoot]

regardless of what's happening, it's dramatic and cryptic. whether that is necessary is yet to be determined.

[gnrjanus]

Whats up with the website,  it's down, I know for maintenance.

But it says now,  This is Guns N' Roses, this is chinese democracy,  and   Just one??? anyone

[gunns1]

updating the look of the site from what ive been told,

Looks great by the way,
looks fresh clean and bright, although I think i prefered the previous one,

[gunns1]

has the current design" of htgth always been the same?

caus no offence, but if this is an improvement on old designs,
then 

but it does the job at least,

once again,no dissrespect to the board

[seely]

Didn't they already update it at the start of the year?

[Orgasmatron]

updating the look of the site from what ive been told,

Looks great by the way,
looks fresh clean and bright, although I think i prefered the previous one,

What looks fresh, clean and bright? I know for a fact you can't have seen the board in its current state.

[oneAXLinamillion]

Didn't they already update it at the start of the year?

yes they did....quite wierd they're updating again!

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

we'll be back soon i think ...

[roboaxl]

hmm... just an update. All good I guess. Of course the subtitle of Starts Now was misleading at first. But typing ChineseDemocracy.com into google mentions the site now has bews and biographies. Seems the site's expanding...

[jarmo]

Sladdi's version of the events: http://www.newgnr.com/forum/index.php?topic=33157.0





/jarmo

[Christos AG]

Another drama unfolds?

First ROV, now cd and newgnr?

The soap opera writers could get a few stories off the net.

Damn, this is getting better and better...

[Jim Bob]

so both sites have basically teh same forum/database up, but are running seperately? 

edit: yup, i have the same set of private messages on 2 different sites now.      Its gonna be like alternate cyber realities.

[GNRreunioneventually]

i just got an email not 3 seconds ago. I'm assuming all CD.com members got one like this-

Dear forum members,

Unlike Oasis, we could not find a way...

As you have noticed, the forum you knew as ChineseDemocracy.com has been down for the past couple of days. It is now again reachable under NewGNR.com/forum. The reason for this is that your admins, BP and Sladdi, have parted ways. Unfortunately, the parting of ways was not an amicable one.

As the forum really belongs to you, its users, I feel that you deserve an explanation of what happened. This is the story as told by me, Sladdi. There may be other sides of the story, which I encourage you to listen to, and to then make up your own mind.

• BP and myself both have owned GN'R fansites for a long time, gunsnroses.us and NewGNR.com.
• BP and I both owned forums for our websites from around 2001. In addition, we both were members on the forum that was owned by soemeone else on ChineseDemocracy.com. Later on, I also became a moderator there.
• In 2003, we decided to join forces, and merged the NewGNR.com (~5000 users) and gunsnroses.us (~1000 users) forums to NewGNR.com/bbs. In early 2004, BP bought the ChineseDemocracy.com domain name for a bargain through eBay to use it for our forum.
• We both do the pages and forums in our free time, and on our own money. Running a page/forum that gets as much traffic as ours does cost a lot of time, and money. So you might not have been surprised when we started having ads on our forum in 2006.
• ChineseDemocracy.com, as well as the merger forum before, was hosted on my servers for nearly 5 years. Yet, the ads we showed on the forum were BP's, i.e. all the money went to him, while I paid for the servers. I was fine with it, as at the time, he needed it. And regardless what you are told, the server IS costing me money at certain occassions, and in my current sitaution I consider this serious money.
• It's now two years since we've had the ads. Since then, I have intensified my studies at the University, and paying for the server would become difficult sooner or later. I approached BP last week to ask if we could run my ads for a while on the forum. He has refused to have his ads removed, and he prefered we would part ways and continue with our own forums, so we can both earn. I would also have to hand over a copy of the database (including all posts, users, passwords, ...) to BP, which I refuse to do, not only for safety reasons (passwords), but also I wasn't comfortable with the idea that BP would technically be able to just put up a copy of this forum and the database and it's "his new ChineseDemocracy.com" - which would be nothing but unfair.
• To protect the forum, I removed BP's administrative rights, and turned the forum off until we would have sorted things out.
• I noticed that the DNS entry for ChineseDemocracy.com no longer points to my server. Given the timeframe in which it happened, I'm tempted to believe this change was initiated before BP proposed his idea mentioned above.
• Since I invested all the money (and most of the time - creating all forums we have had together, as well as the redesigns in 2004 and 2006 which were entirely Bessam's and my work), I don't understand why I should hand over the forum to BP, with or without copy for me. I therefore moved it to NewGNR.com/forum, where you'll find it from now on as it used to be.

As many of you know, the relationship between BP and me was more than just net-buddies. BP and blueheart have asked me to be their best man - which was really an honor; I was here when they kinda got together and then to see them marry was truly beautiful. I value the friendship to both of them very highly. I am sad that things went down the way they did, it certainly never was my intention to hurt their (or anyone's) feelings. Eventhough I don't agree on same forums and databases being copied and hosted at different places, I wish them all the best with whatever their plans for ChineseDemocracy.com might be.

Sincerely yours,
Sladdi

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You can view the full announcement by following this link:

http://www.newgnr.com/forum/index.php?topic=33157.0

Regards,
The Guns N' Roses NewGNR.COM Forum Team

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

drama s

Another drama unfolds?

i cant stand internet drama, i just want to look at a good looking forum and talk about how sexy jackie kennedy is !

hey christos, i still have the GNR.gr lighter you gave in london, it's my favorite gnr item ever

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

bp answer

I didn't approve of any of this and sladdi's facts are way off.? I'll give my thoughts at a later time, but he has 0 bills for server and never did.? 2. I pay around $200 for the GNR Community a month. Adsense helps me only a little bit. sladdi makes much more than that with newgnr.com.? I'm sorry sladdi wants everything and to leave me nothing:

No server access (Not allowed backups and not allowed files) are you kidding me?
didn't want me to work on the site
didn't want me to collect any adsense towards my server while he had a $0 bill
Didn't think I had a right to my files?? are you kidding me man?
No uTube
No mods whatsoever
basically said I can't do or have anything to do with my part of the site including my files.

He refused to work with me even half way and instead of us working the forum together he wanted the site on newgnr.com to collect more ad revenue because with what he was collecting $$ already was not enuff for him, but certainly a lot more than me. and I am the only one with bills.

so this will never happen again, and I worked hard to get the site back up and now everything is on my server. I wish it was both of us working side by side.

I'm sorry, but now in the best interest of cd.com, everthing will be fine now.? That's all I have to say.

-BP

lets end the drama discussion anyway ... useless.

[Christos AG]

hey christos, i still have the GNR.gr lighter you gave in london, it's my favorite gnr item ever

It should be...

[leatherebel]

Regardless of whether you liked them or not, whether you were a member there or not, or whether you cared at all - this is all very sad.....

...apart from the part keeping Christos entertained with the drama and soap...


Interestingly, it is not the first time BP has had to deal with dirty laundary in public...

[sladdi]

Hey all - thanks for your concern about our forum. My explanation/opinion has been posted above, thanks to Jarmo / CHINESE  DEMOCRACY eventually.

As you can imagine, I'm a little busy right now (not to speak of being stressed out because of the last couple of days). I'll answer questions if you have any...

Thank you for your concern and understanding.