Here Today... Gone To Hell!

La Voz del Interior, main Cordoba's newspaper interviewed Steven Adler and I translated such interview. He's an excerpt:




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I'm pretty sure Axl, Slash, Duff, and even Izzy don't care about how much money they could make.? I mean they do, but are more interested in the music.? (or atleast aren't retarded enough to say it like Steven).

Hearing shit like this from Adler makes me less of a fan.? I was already on the ropes for paying $13 for his shitty cd this spring (guess that was all about making lots of money too).

nice interview i suppose but you'd think interviewers would think of something else to ask him about really. problem is every time he mentions axl or gnr some stupid comment pops out.

Atleast he is honest about it, not like some other groups that reform and say its not for da money  ::)
Very cool interview, Adler doesnt fool around with polite answers or formal shit.

Whoever said it's not for the money it's lying, fuck if it AXL, Izzy or duff, slash it's always for the money they will not do nothing for free, or everyone think that they lives for the money of the old times? I don't think so they need money to have their lives and they can do music so thats that Steven said the most honest answer along fellow rockers, it's for the money and always will be.

dude steven the crackwhore is doin adlers appetite for the money!
he spend all his money on drugs...
steven calls axl.. asshole...
that is fuckin funny
a bitter crackwhore that didnt do anything musically calling the best frontman in the past 20 years an ashole..

axl was the only one that stuck with steven to the end.... cuz he didnt record persopnally with him...
steven now has more royalties cuz axl give him a percent of his royalties
he doesnt have any rite to call axl an asshole.... he only has envy... cuz he knos that he is a loser that nobody acre about him... he thinks he is importnat but he is only a bitter junkie

Steven and Axl can feel whatever they want about each other.? outsiders opinions are like assholes, we all got em and most of em stink.  the GNR boys were there, they know what happened, so they can feel however.   but i will say i wish they would keep it to themselves.  I love em all and I don't want to hear them badmouth each other.  it isn't fair to the fans to try and make them takes sides by trashing another guy.  let us love the guys for the music

what place? musicallly i dont think so.. he was mediocre drummer... nothing special
the only place that he has is a junkie that didnt anything for 10 years... spend all his money on drugs... had 3 drug induced breakdowns...

Steven hasnt heard CD? In one of his last interviews he said it sucked. I guess he isnt the only person affiliated with GNR that contradicts themselves! :hihi:

Agree with you, and in my opinion they are both stupid for not keeping their mouth shout. Period!

I heard about axl rose driving ferraris and duff getting 5millon dollars mansions... steven came to argentina for 5.000 DOLLARS (all the band) and he was dressing leather clothes, sitting in the floor next to me talking about stuffs...

that's a hardrocker, that's guns n roses, not mr rose with braids ferraris and rap clothes.? ;)


do you still thinking that steven thinks about money? he came to argentina for free  :beer:

thats patethic! :rofl:
he is tarnishing the guns n roses fame for $5000! >:(
but what can yo expect for a  guy that sucked dicks to get crack! :yes:

Well yeah crack can get you go very deep to patheticness  :no:
But he ain't tarnishing GNR fame at all I think the whole breakup and new CD coming out it's tarnishing.
WTF is tarnish??  :nervous:

I agree about the braids, rap clothes, Argentinian dilldos, etc.? ?I never said what was rock n' roll and what wasn't (although maybe its just me, but your thought about ferraris sort of contradicts your point, i mean, fast sports cars go hand in hand with rock n roll, but maybe sports cars go together with polka for you.)

And I haven't solved this riddle yet.? How does one get paid $5,000 but still manage to go to Argentina for free??

My point about the money wasn't to bash Steven.? He's one of my favorite drummers and the best GNR has had imo.? It's just that he seems so desperate for it that he's willing to sacrifice the music for it.? Out of the original five, he's the one that would want to throw a reunion together whether it sucked or not just to get some extra cash.? Which, in all honesty he probably deserves to be the one who needs the cash the most.? I mean, what would you rather do, play with your old mates on some rocking tunes or suck on a purple headed yogurt slinger until it spits at you just to get your crack?

No you are misquoting him.  he said that it "will suck" because it isn't the five of them recording it.  he didn't say it "does suck" meaning he heard it.

so you are accepting that he is pathetic...
cd waiting and the break up are not tarnishing anything...
and an advice, go look the dictionary before you write something you dont know...

And tarnish is ....

do you wanna know what he did to axl girlfriend?
a lot of people said he injected her a speedball.. that made her an overdose.. and then raped her
cool guy!? ;D
they kicked him out of the bsnd cuz he was a shitty drummer... just must a be shit drummin if in a recording the producer have to edit 60 times your drummin



go fuckin find dictionary... loser...

I think what we got here is failure to comunicate, I ask you something you couldn't answer

i think what we got here is a guy that doesnt know a word...and used it on a sentence
i know the meaning of the word.. that is why i used... if you wanna know the meaning... go fukcin find for yourself...

back to the topic steven is pathetic  : ok:

ok what the fuck is wrong here?
if anyone thinks that steven gave erin a speedball and then rape her must live in a very psicodelic world.

you dont give a speed ball to your singer?s girlfriend, and leavin the fact it was a band called guns n roses and the singer?s name is axl rose.
do you think that former band member would still talk to steven if that happened?

and sto bashing the guy he is a good person and dont deserve this
and pepe.,.,please man you are gonna get seriusly banned

mmm Yes stop bashing the man.....  (adler)

Pepe just wants to call attention...

is true that he gave erin a speedball.... i can show articles...etc
about the rape.. some people said it that is why the junkie was kicked out
if was for the rape or not... it was the BEST decision ever in gnr

Cool show the articles

It's true cause Axl said it? Steven has another story which sounds credible enough..

Either way, we don't know for sure cause we weren't there, so it's just a rumour ;)

axl never said the speedball thing.. was other guyz..
and i believe what axl sayd.. you know why? cuz he doesnt contradict himself everytime he talks... just like the crackwhore of steven

Pepe the fact is that, you worship Axl, and you hate Steven... but there are some people like us that respect Steven so please stop making ignorant statements..

what ignorant statements???

Insulting Steven man, without reasons and proves..

you dont need proves to insult someone..
i have plenty of reasons to dislike him.. i dont wanna say them all cuz is a long list...

The only problem pepe666 is that you cant insult anyone here specially gnr members or ex members. And you are talking without proves.

he's playing those songs for free... he wrote part of those songs, he gets 15% of AFD sales, he has the same rights as any other gnr member for playing those songs.

5000 dollars is a figurative price... he doesn't need that money, he came to see a wild crowd and rock some...

what I find pathetic is to listen over and over and over all the legal issues under gnr name and rights for the songs...  ;)

i can insult whoever i want...
thats called freedom of speech.. and i also have proves...
i dont give afuck if you wanna suck crackwhore ass... thats your problem

apparently you do, because you can't stop talking about it.

why are you wasting so much time talking about/defending adler...he is a drummer ..has he ever written a song ?...

Guys, First, Steven deserves respect  as a human being, and as the musician who made possible such excellent album AFD,  The guy did actually help to write the songs. That is why he receives 15% of the benefit, now, what I dont get is that there is no equality dividing up the money... 25 % to axl just cause he wrote the lyrics, and not all of them, that is not fair.

Second Pepe666 there is obviously freedom of "speech" but you are gonna get banned dude. You better calm down, bitter boy.

steven didnt wrote a single chord/melody/word of AFD... he just plays drums in the record...
he have 15% cuz tell band if he didnt have the 15% he would quit... nobody fuckin care but axl gave him one part of his part... 

DEL: Want to talk about another former member of Guns, drummer Steven Adler?

AXL: The misconception is that we kicked him out for the hell of it, and that I was the dictator behind it. The truth is, I probably fought a little harder to keep him in the band, because I wasn't working with him on a daily basis like the other guys were. They grew tired of not being able to get their work done because Steven wasn't capable of it. I've read interviews where he's saying that he's straight. Most of the time he isn't. He's the type of person who wants everything handed to him, and he did get it handed to him. He got it handed to him from me. At one point, in order to keep this band together, it was necessary for me to give him a portion of my publishing rights. That was one of the biggest mistakes I've made in my life, but he threw such a fit, saying he wasn't going to stay in the band. We were worried about not being able to record our first album, so I did what I felt I had to do. In the long run I paid very extensively for keeping Steven in Guns N' Roses. I paid $1.5 million by giving him 15% of my publishing off of Appetite For Destruction. He didn't write one goddamn note, but he calls me a selfish dick! He's been able to live off of that money, buy a shitload of drugs and hire lawyers to sue me. If and when he loses the lawsuit he has against us, and he has to pay those lawyers, if he has any money left, it'll be the money that came from Guns N' Roses and myself. At this point I really don't care what happens to Steven Adler, because he's taken himself out of my life, out of my care and concern. I feel bad for him in ways, because he's a real damaged person, but he's making choices to keep himself in that damage. There's nothing we can do at this point. We took him to rehabs, we threatened his drug dealers, we helped him when he slashed his wrists. I even forgave him after he nearly killed my wife. I had to spend a night with her in an intensive-care unit because her heart had stopped thanks to Steven. She was hysterical, and he shot her up with a speedball. She had never done jack shit as far as drugs go, and he shoots her up with a mixture of heroin and cocaine? I kept myself from doing anything to him. I kept the man from being killed by members of her family. I saved him from having to go to court, because her mother wanted him held responsible for his actions. And the sonofabitch turns on me? I mean, yeah, I'm a difficult person to deal with, and I'm a pain in the ass to understand, and I've had my share of problems, but Steven benefited greatly from his involvement with me - more than I did from knowing him. Steven had a lot of fans, but he was a real pain in the ass. I need to keep him in my life for you? F?!k you!

SUCK ON THAT!!!

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=11

right on ,pepe.... i'm not bashing on steven the person, although he seems pretty bashable,but when you refer to him as an artist i want to puke on you...to put it in ryhme..the claim to fame he claims is lame indeed....maybe he should have spent the last 15 yrs. creating something rather than wasting away 'trying to put the band back together ,dude'...whatever

 :o Finnaly a decent post! Yeah the guy was smashed by crack as I said before a junkie life is pathetic but saying is the bigest prick in the world? mmm I don't think so if you have talke to Steven I give you a point on that cause I can say also that Axl is bitter with him and trying to be the good guy in the movie just to people don't point him as the bastard guy he can be.
Once again Steven is the best drummer Guns ever had and everybody knows it, the bad thing is he will never get clean up.

and Steven wrote the drum parts, the rhythm.  Duff said back in 1988 that when one guy brings a song to record, the other guys always add their touch to it, so they split the writing credits.



finally you provided something, but its only Axl's version of the story.  there are always two sides, and you don't seem to understand that.

He only has that 15% of the publishing because Axl gave it to him when he threatened to quit the band before the album was even made...

Adler can fuck off acting like a 10 year old with his name calling. He's bitter and twisted about being kicked out and not having anything to do with either current projects (GNR/VR).

Q: Have you heard VELVET REVOLVER's album, the new group of Slash and Duff McKagan?

Adler: "Yeah, but I'm not gonna comment on it because, actually, I would have liked to have participated in that project. I'm hurt. They didnt let me participate on any of the songs. But, yeah, I think it's a fantastic record."

Why should they let him participate on any of the songs? It's a new band that he has nothing to do with and had a drummer from the start.

And he hopes they can reunite someday after all his comments about Axl etc? Sure Steven.

And the funny part of what he said there is the fact that he said its a "fantastic record" and in an interview he did awhile ago he said it sucked lol :rofl:

Guys the words of Axl are not  a prove....   

Who can we believe?  Axl or Steven, both seem honest.

Wow, that part of interview Pepe posted proves Steven is a liar!!   : ok:

What Axl says is exactly what Steven says.... "I paid $1.5 million by giving him 15% of my publishing off of Appetite For Destruction. He didn't write one goddamn note, but he calls me a selfish dick! He's been able to live off of that money, buy a shitload of drugs and hire lawyers to sue me"

Steven said to Cordoba newspaper that he lives off that 15%, so I guess Axl isnt lying.  8)

They told me I had a drug problem, well, who the fuck were they to tell me that? A couple alcoholics and heroin users? Did they take some time in between fucking strippers to decide they were going to throw me out of the band? Doug Goldstein took me to have an opiate blocker, which made me very sick. I told them [Slash & Duff] that I felt sick and couldn't record. Slash told me we had to, because we couldn't waste the money. I said "Money? What about the money we wasted last year [referring to the 1989 Chicago rehearsal/recording sessions, in which only Slash, Duff, and Steven attended] when Izzy was cleaning himself up, and Axl was nowhere to be found? Why was it okay for those guys to waste the money, but not me [in order to] get well?" So anyway, they bring me into the studio and I feel like shit. It took me forever to get the song [Civil War] right, and they got frustrated with me. So next thing I know, Doug has a stack of papers in front of me that I could never fucking read because they were about five inches thick! He's telling me 'sign here, sign there' and telling me I was signing an agreement saying I was on "probation", meaning I was going to detox in time to record, or else. But it turns out, those papers weren't really giving me that chance. So I don't hear a fucking thing from anyone for awhile, then I got these notices saying 'you're out of the band'. Through my lawyers, I discovered that the "probation" papers that Doug had me sign were actually the rights to my partnership and all my royalties, which I was unknowingly signing away! They completely screwed me out of everything, these guys, [who were] my friends, my family. It hurt more than anything. My royalties were from playing, writing, and [use of] my image such as t shirts and shit. When we recorded [Appetite for Destruction], Slash came up with this system where whoever wrote got credit. But then when it came time to actually divide them up, suddenly everybody was getting credit but me. I mean, [for example] Izzy wrote the song "Think About You" by himself before we started playing it, yet Slash, Duff, and Axl were also going to be receiving royalties for it, since they supposedly "added to it". I said, "well what about me? Did I add nothing?" I mean Izzy wrote the fucking song, I thought that's how the writing credits were determined, but the other guys were getting credit for something they didn't write, and I wasn't. Same thing for all the other songs, Axl would get credit for songs such as "Brownstone" [written by Slash and Izzy] and "It's So Easy" [written by Duff and West Arkeen], even though he didn't write anything on them, and the other guys [who didn't write also got credit] too. So why not me? So Axl gave me a portion of his [to compensate for not being included], and my name was put beside the rest of theirs [in the writing credits] and that was that. But now they've screwed me out of those royalties and my other ones too. Two fucking albums that I played on are still selling and they're collecting money from them, and I'm not. Guns N Roses T shirts with my face on them are still selling, and they're collecting money from them, and I'm not. That's what they did to me, people I thought were my friends took it all away and said goodbye as if I never existed. Fuck that! That's why I sue them, and I'm confident the jury will see it my way.
--Steven Adler, 1991 press release on his lawsuit against Guns N Roses.


Now suck on that... Pepe

I dont see someone who I can believe right now... not even Axl nor Steven... but Izzy Stradlin has quoted too so, there more points in Stevens side.

I knew it was the beginning of the end when Steven was legally voted out of the band for doing drugs. This from a band that spent five years doing groupies and acting like idiots!
---Izzy Stradlin, 1993


When Axl began to gain some money and to get laid, he wasn't controllable any more. Then I saw Steven, Slash and Duff literally killing themselves before my eyes. I don't even know any more if Steven was still in the group in fact: what was that bullshit anyway? A musician is fired from Guns N' Roses because he's on drugs while the group spent all of their time on drugs?
I did the [1993] shows and I didn't enjoy myself a lot because Duff and Slash were always still wasted.
--Izzy Stradlin, Hard Rock magazine, June 2001


[Guns N Roses] already went wrong when original drummer Steven Adler was kicked out of the band. Because Steven was gone, Izzy also [eventually] left. But we had a whole tour planned so we kept the whole thing going. When it was time to record a new album, though, we missed those guys a lot [Izzy did not play much on the UYI albums]. Look, nothing was right about our little band, but we were very successful. Without Steven and Izzy, though, it really turned into Axl's trip.
--Slash, Aloha magazine, June 8, 2004
 

Not that everything's wrong about it, but it seems that on those interviews Slash and Izzy are still mad about Axl behaviour, it's pretty tough to stay in one side and to try to understand both sides when both sides has good points, A junkie was kicked out of junkie group, that's the base line what Adler it's claiming is fair, what Izzy and slash are saying to Axl it's true too, but what do you expect of these 5 guys that once were nobody and now are big stars out of nothing, money kill friendship and in this case kill a great music chemistry. It's pretty sad  :no:

I'm sure a few things Axl has said may have been wrong Carlos GMS.. but Adler is just dumb!

Seriously who bags on people then says he hopes to reunite with them? That is just plain stupid!

Steven had problems with Axl and he vocalizes them.? but that doesn't mean he has to hate Axl and never want to work with him again.? it's not a contradiction, he's just being honest.

it's funny, because I can't tell you how many boards where I'll find Axl-holics praising the hell out of Axl's venomous onstage rants (which frequently tear down his former bandmates) simply because he's being "honest".? but now Steven is doing exactly the same thing and Axl fans are slagging him.? what gives man?

Well guys Steven Adler bagged on those guys in the past that's right, but then He issued that He wishes to play with 'em someday.

What is pretty clear to me is that, Steven Adler's forgotten the hatred. Actually if you see it from another perspective, he moved on, even when he would like to kick some gunners, but he forgave and nothing of all the bad things that happened to him deserve a second thought now,  something that Axl should learn. Why do you always want to be a bitter person, get away from the others, having just some special contacts in your life, kind of discriminating some others because they dont think the way you do. We are all going to the same place, to becoming, Dust N' bones. Life is too short...

Steven isn't bitter?!  :hihi:

I mean he said he was hurt because Velvet Revolver didn't include him in their CD!! That's just hilarious!

Maybe you are right man,  but comparing Axl with Steven,  Steven is a candy...

Exactly at least we know how Steven feels about it, but what about Axl do we know what he thinks about their ex-mates just that they suck? I don't think so, there are a lot of ways that you unrespect one person and that's one of them.

at least axl didnt contradicts himself in every interview!  :yes:

Yes he does, CD is gonna be out soon and I still waiting  : ok:

he have never contradicts himself...
he have never say a date of the realase of CD...
i have never seen him in the same interview contradicting himself...
the only loser of the ex gunners is steven... he is a bitter junkie..
he gotta move on! its been 15 years and he havent done anything big/great/interesting/critically aclaimmed... you know why? cuz he is a regular musician... nothing special...

PEPE 666 you called me Stupid, then you said, someone should use the dictionary, then you are always insulting Steven... and you dont even know that, in the third person of the personal pronouns you should use "HAS" instead of "HAVE"

"he have never contradicts himself...
he have never say a date of the realase of CD...
he havent done anything"

and you think you have the last word? Get the fuck out dude...

i dont give a fuck about grammar... :smoking:
but i got the points... the meaning of what i tried to say is the important thing  ;)

Actually he has, in 2002, he said sometime in the next year, and its been three years.


by your logic, that means Axl is nothing special either, because Axl hasn't done anything (as you put it) big/great/interesting/critically acclaimed since 1993.  All he has since then are a mediocre song (Oh my god), a failed tour, and a laughable VMA performance.  nothing commendable coming from the Axl camp, so you have no argument against Steven there.

how do you dare to compare a piece of shit like steven with the best frontman in the last 20 years... you must be dumb!

i cant believe that pepe is involved in every bashin that steven is having here.

look man he is a junkie.,.,is that wrong? no im a junkie too so what the fuck? axl is totally crazy these days and steven may have a shitty cd like you think but we are still waiting for the "best rock album ever made" like axl said. and if you think that having a rock band is about a lead singer with a freckshow that called themselves "guns n roses"....mmm...think it twice man...
i saw steven play a week ago and he rocks more than axl?s band for sure. they have the spirit, something axl lost a long time ago when he lost his fuckin mind. : ok:

agree with Dr. Light, did you read a thread in the dead horse area where mikeb said that Axl is now darth vader and stuff like that? I think that has to do a lot with your statement  ;)

in other words, you know i'm right and can't figure out what to say, so you just resort to childish insults.  well done!   : ok:

hey girl,whats up !
thanks for the interview.even though axl should punch steven out like i said before.asshole hhhhmmm never that it's more like the  other way around.steven is the asshole.

Does anyone know what the relation between Duff and Steven is?

Seems that Duff and Axl are the only ones who have no contact with Steven. Well, we know Axl's reasons but why does Duff does not have any contact with Steven anymore ???

according to various interviews given by Steven and Duff over the last 8 years or so, they still see each other sporadically and get along ok.  apparently, Duff, Steven, and Izzy jammed together in the studio about 3 years ago when Izzy was recording one of his solo albums.

thing about someone in the record company saying, the cd ain't good enough, could be true. btw. Steven really should get over with the fact that he was fired. those asshole talks again and again are useless.

Axl is as much a "crackwhore" as Steven. As is Slash, Duff and Izzy

This thread talks about everythin but? Steven Adler going to Argentina, can a operator lock this please?

Yeah I'm still waiting for the guy who said that was going to pass it on video  :'(