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Title: Axl's collaboration
Post by: vicente on August 27, 2007, 12:04:04 PM
Since the calm has returned, let's talk about something else.

I was watching a videoclip of Evanescence (nevermind this band, it's just what led me to think what I'm writing) this weekend and as I saw her playing the piano I wondered: do you think Axl could be regarded, now or in the future, as a "legend" that other musicians would like to play/write songs with?

Let me make it clearer: do you remember GNR's duet with Elton John at one VMA's and how that was pretty cool. Could you imagine Axl doing something similar at a show with some other artist? And I'm not counting the Sebastian thing, because they're real close friends. I mean some band or singer of the "new generation" that regards Axl as this iconic figure or a personnal idol and would ask him to join them and play with them.

And, another point, on the statement Axl made at gunsnroses.com he says "since I'm rarely asked to do anything I'd actually enjoy or be glad to be a part of". So, with what kind of artists do you think Axl would be enjoy to play?

I, for one, think that all of these scenarios will only be possible after CD is released and GNR and Axl regain their part as an important and relevant band.

: : vicente : :


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: Journeyman on August 27, 2007, 12:08:38 PM
I dont have any doubt Axl is an Icon for some of this new bands, and many would do anything for a chance to be on stage with him...the real question is, will he accept stuff like that? He accepted Bach cause they are close friends...would he have accepted if the invite was from Evanescence for example?


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: elmir on August 27, 2007, 12:14:54 PM
wasn't he supposed to play with Kravitz for Live Earth before that got cancelled?


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: Journeyman on August 27, 2007, 12:17:41 PM
wasn't he supposed to play with Kravitz for Live Earth before that got cancelled?

yes he was! First Kravitz had health problems, and when he was ok, it was too late for Axl to travel half world...

It would be strange since Kravitz is a great friend of Slash  :hihi:


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on August 27, 2007, 12:23:15 PM
To answer your question - Yes

I believe he is that good that a lot of bands would be honored to share the stage with him

He also has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way though, and that may go against him

Either way, I'd be honored to jam with the guy! :hihi:  I play a  mean air-guitar, that's for sure :rofl:


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: Journeyman on August 27, 2007, 12:25:54 PM
To answer your question - Yes

I believe he is that good that a lot of bands would be honored to share the stage with him

He also has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way though, and that may go against him

Either way, I'd be honored to jam with the guy! :hihi:? I play a  mean air-guitar, that's for sure :rofl:

 :rofl: :rofl:

me too...we could make an air-band  :hihi:


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: Lucky on August 27, 2007, 12:28:04 PM
To answer your question - Yes

I believe he is that good that a lot of bands would be honored to share the stage with him

He also has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way though, and that may go against him

Either way, I'd be honored to jam with the guy! :hihi:  I play a  mean air-guitar, that's for sure :rofl:

I play with my self :) does that count ???


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: stone_temple_roses on August 27, 2007, 12:35:48 PM
I personally think Axl would enjoy collaborating with Bob Dylan
but I seriously doubt that would happen


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: stolat on August 27, 2007, 12:43:27 PM
To answer your question - Yes

I believe he is that good that a lot of bands would be honored to share the stage with him

He also has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way though, and that may go against him

Either way, I'd be honored to jam with the guy! :hihi:? I play a? mean air-guitar, that's for sure :rofl:

 :rofl: :rofl:

me too...we could make an air-band? :hihi:


I bags hair and makeup!     

Had a great KISS makeup kit once.........


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on August 27, 2007, 12:44:32 PM
To answer your question - Yes

I believe he is that good that a lot of bands would be honored to share the stage with him

He also has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way though, and that may go against him

Either way, I'd be honored to jam with the guy! :hihi:? I play a? mean air-guitar, that's for sure :rofl:

I play with my self :) does that count ???


Sure does

You'd have good company too : ok:


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: suicide on August 27, 2007, 12:46:01 PM
He shared the stage with The Rolling Stones, Queen, Aerosmith, Elton John, Tom Petty, Gilby Clarke, Alice Cooper, Bono, Bruce Springfield, Bubbles, Sebastian Bach, Angry Anderson and I'm sure I'm forgetting some others so I'm sure it will happen again. Why not?


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: banachkevin on August 27, 2007, 01:09:03 PM
did papa roach ask him at the korm party???


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: WARose on August 27, 2007, 01:15:55 PM
did papa roach ask him at the korm party???

yes they did.....


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: ppbebe on August 27, 2007, 02:12:08 PM
did papa roach ask him at the korm party???

yes they did.....

and he could ill afford the time then according to RS.

"But tonight, their drummer reverts to his teenage fan days, asking Rose for a picture and to guest on Papa Roach's next album. Rose strikes a pose and then graciously refers the fellow rocker to his management.

After all, before he lends his talents to others' projects, Rose has one of his own to finish, and he says it's getting there."


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would he have accepted if the invite was from Evanescence for example?

If invited respectfully by Amy herself and if he has time to spare, I imagine, he would.


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: vicente on August 27, 2007, 02:56:45 PM
Yeah, that's what I thought, too.
But I imagine that nowadays a lot of people still think he is "nowhere to be found" and a little bit in the shadows. I mean, almost all news about him comes with some bash or joke about the album.
And I think that it would be a complete different scenario once CD is released.

: : Vicente : :


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: LIGuns on August 27, 2007, 03:01:11 PM
His guest vocals w. Gilby N' Don Henley were barely audible..Hopefully on Sebastian Bach's new CD they will be more like the vocals on 14 Years, Dust N' Bones, So Fine and Alice Coopers "Under My Thumb".


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: liesin on August 27, 2007, 03:35:41 PM
His guest vocals w. Gilby N' Don Henley were barely audible..Hopefully on Sebastian Bach's new CD they will be more like the vocals on 14 Years, Dust N' Bones, So Fine and Alice Coopers "Under My Thumb".

Sure hope so and I really do think so



Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: Mysterious_Guy on August 27, 2007, 06:42:11 PM

And, another point, on the statement Axl made at gunsnroses.com he says "since I'm rarely asked to do anything I'd actually enjoy or be glad to be a part of". So, with what kind of artists do you think Axl would be enjoy to play?

: : vicente : :

...axl would play with someone else who has too much money to pay him all what he wants ....that's how show business works out....i guess you should know that...how old are you?  :-\ 


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: gcluskey on August 27, 2007, 07:18:26 PM
It would be interesting to see Axl colaborating with someone like Chrissie Hynde or David Bowie or could you imagine the project that Axl and Roger Waters could put together...it'd probably never get finished


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: Mysterious_Guy on August 27, 2007, 07:30:26 PM
David Bowie

do you still think that he's axl's friend?  :rofl:


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: maynard on August 27, 2007, 07:41:13 PM
i'm sure avenged 7fold would kill for a collab with axl, and wouldn't be impossible to axl to accept.


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: russtcb on August 27, 2007, 07:48:06 PM
i'm sure avenged 7fold would kill for a collab with axl, and wouldn't be impossible to axl to accept.

Agreed. To be honest, I think it'd be hard to find someone in the industry that really wouldn't want to collaborate with Axl.


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: Vicious Wishes on August 27, 2007, 08:12:19 PM
Robert Plant, Steven Tyler, Axl Rose, Mick Jagger, Ozzy, Kiss, AC/DC.

Any musician now should wish to work with any one of these people/groups.


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: Kujo on August 27, 2007, 09:42:07 PM
It would be strange since Kravitz is a great friend of Slash? :hihi:
Might not be a factor. Kravitz was in the V.I.P. section to the right of the stage during the second Hammerstein show.


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: RageNirvanaNIN on August 27, 2007, 10:06:13 PM
I think that most people in the music industry , rock wise anyways , would do an Axl collab , and if not they'd do a Slash one. I just noticed that really ,  I mean why the hell WOULDN'T you wanna work with Axl fuckin' Rose??  :P


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: Robman? on August 27, 2007, 10:38:39 PM
maybe he'll join timbaland onstage at the vmas. Since timbaland is like the hippest guy ever, who produces all the best records, and he organized the amazing performers at the vmas.



 :hihi:


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: russtcb on August 27, 2007, 10:44:03 PM
maybe he'll join timbaland onstage at the vmas. Since timbaland is like the hippest guy ever, who produces all the best records, and he organized the amazing performers at the vmas.



 :hihi:

I realize you were joking, but I still gotta say I'd quite irritated if something like that ever happened.


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: meanmachine73 on August 28, 2007, 06:22:25 AM
His guest vocals w. Gilby N' Don Henley were barely audible..Hopefully on Sebastian Bach's new CD they will be more like the vocals on 14 Years, Dust N' Bones, So Fine and Alice Coopers "Under My Thumb".

Is that a joke?  It's 'under my wheels'.


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: fuckin crazy on August 28, 2007, 08:11:13 AM
I'd like to see him with some relatively new band. I think him and Josh Todd would make one hell of a duet.


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: russtcb on August 28, 2007, 09:04:33 AM
I'd like to see him with some relatively new band. I think him and Josh Todd would make one hell of a duet.

Good fuckin call..... Buckcherry writes some catchy ass rock tunes and Josh Todd has one hell of a cool voice.


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: vicente on August 28, 2007, 09:22:49 AM
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...axl would play with someone else who has too much money to pay him all what he wants ....that's how show business works out....i guess you should know that...how old are you?  :-\ 
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I don't see how my age matters, but just so you know I'm 27.
I don't think money is the issue here. He doesn't seem like someone that would do anything for money or that needs money so desperately to do that, to play with someone que doesn't enjoy. If money was the case he would play with Slash.  :hihi:

And of course Axl has done a lot of collaborations in the past with lots of different people, but that is what I'm talking about: that was when Guns was begging to be worldwide famous. Axl was the new guy joining classic big names like Mick Jagger, Steven Tyler and Elton John. Even then, he was so great - Guns was so great and at it's peak - that everyone would love to join then.

But now it's a little bit different. Axl is the "Big Name", he is this mythic guy. My question is: today, without Chinese Democracy, do you thing new bands would think "we should invite Axl to play with us, he is so great" or "we can't invite Axl, he hasn't even finished his record, the guy is a joke"?

In time: this is not a bash and I do think he is great.

: : vicente : :



Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: russtcb on August 28, 2007, 09:27:02 AM
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...axl would play with someone else who has too much money to pay him all what he wants ....that's how show business works out....i guess you should know that...how old are you?  :-\ 
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I don't see how my age matters, but just so you know I'm 27.
I don't think money is the issue here. He doesn't seem like someone that would do anything for money or that needs money so desperately to do that, to play with someone que doesn't enjoy. If money was the case he would play with Slash.  :hihi:

And of course Axl has done a lot of collaborations in the past with lots of different people, but that is what I'm talking about: that was when Guns was begging to be worldwide famous. Axl was the new guy joining classic big names like Mick Jagger, Steven Tyler and Elton John. Even then, he was so great - Guns was so great and at it's peak - that everyone would love to join then.

But now it's a little bit different. Axl is the "Big Name", he is this mythic guy. My question is: today, without Chinese Democracy, do you thing new bands would think "we should invite Axl to play with us, he is so great" or "we can't invite Axl, he hasn't even finished his record, the guy is a joke"?

In time: this is not a bash and I do think he is great.

: : vicente : :



I honestly believe that most people are just plain intimidated by the idea of Axl Rose.

I think most people may not look into involving him because he's got this "hermit" type reputation and they figure he just won't show up or be hard to deal with. I cannot understand that from everything I've heard. The Rosario & Michael J. stuff from last year showed me that Axl will show up and do some nice things when invited.


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: stolat on August 29, 2007, 01:43:53 AM
Axl and Meatloaf doing Bat Outta Hell!!!


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on August 29, 2007, 03:50:03 PM
Axl and Meatloaf doing Bat Outta Hell!!!

No thanks


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: russtcb on August 29, 2007, 04:02:11 PM
Axl and Meatloaf doing Bat Outta Hell!!!

No thanks

Yeah no kidding. That's one of the few things I don't wanna see. Ever.


Title: Re: Axl's collaboration
Post by: stolat on August 29, 2007, 10:26:41 PM
Two of the finest rock voices ever! It would be awesome!