BFoot emails me back and says:

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

Well you got 2 band members confirming its real, BBF and Dizzy.

And I dont know anyone who can sing exactly like Axl, so it would be hard to change the 2nd chorus and do all those harmonies in the Na na na part.

Sorry but this is real. Its probably not the final mix, but is definately real.

[bazgnr]

Well you got 2 band members confirming its real, BBF and Dizzy.

And I dont know anyone who can sing exactly like Axl, so it would be hard to change the 2nd chorus and do all those harmonies in the Na na na part.

Sorry but this is real. Its probably not the final mix, but is definately real.

As much as I love the song, the new harmonies, etc., I hope it isn't the final mix.  The instrument panning and balance seems way off during certain parts of the track (all bass on the right, for example).   As I spend a lot of time listening w/ headphones on, I'd be a bit disapppointed if this was the final, mixed version that was on CD.

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

Well you got 2 band members confirming its real, BBF and Dizzy.

And I dont know anyone who can sing exactly like Axl, so it would be hard to change the 2nd chorus and do all those harmonies in the Na na na part.

Sorry but this is real. Its probably not the final mix, but is definately real.

As much as I love the song, the new harmonies, etc., I hope it isn't the final mix.  The instrument panning and balance seems way off during certain parts of the track (all bass on the right, for example).   As I spend a lot of time listening w/ headphones on, I'd be a bit disapppointed if this was the final, mixed version that was on CD.

I didnt say this was the final mix. All I said was that this from GN'R, its not a fake. According to Dizzy its not the final mix.

http://chinesedemocracy.com/index.php/topic,24203.0.html

[polluxlm]

Whatever that song was yesterday, it isn't anymore.

There are 3 possibilities, a genuine leak, a fan remaster (in that case the guy responsible should be hired asap by someone) or it's a 'feeler' to check out the vibe.

I'm leaning on the first alternative, and that it's an older demo. Definitely not a close to being finished song.

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

Whatever that song was yesterday, it isn't anymore.

There are 3 possibilities, a genuine leak, a fan remaster (in that case the guy responsible should be hired asap by someone) or it's a 'feeler' to check out the vibe.

I'm leaning on the first alternative, and that it's an older demo. Definitely not a close to being finished song.

Dude its def more current. The way Axl sang it live in '06 with the 2nd chorus is the way he sings here. Also, if you listen to the live versions the synth is a lot higher in the mix than in the previously leaked demo, just like this version. Its def a more current version of the song than the leak of last year. It sounds closer to being finished than last years. The sound is a lot better, you can hear everything clearer and Axl's voice is a lot louder in the mix. Axl's voice should be a hint right away that this is a more current mix. Listen to how loud his voice is in the Harley ad, its similar in this demo.

[polluxlm]

Whatever that song was yesterday, it isn't anymore.

There are 3 possibilities, a genuine leak, a fan remaster (in that case the guy responsible should be hired asap by someone) or it's a 'feeler' to check out the vibe.

I'm leaning on the first alternative, and that it's an older demo. Definitely not a close to being finished song.

Dude its def more current. The way Axl sang it live in '06 with the 2nd chorus is the way he sings here. Also, if you listen to the live versions the synth is a lot higher in the mix than in the previously leaked demo, just like this version. Its def a more current version of the song than the leak of last year. It sounds closer to being finished than last years. The sound is a lot better, you can hear everything clearer and Axl's voice is a lot louder in the mix. Axl's voice should be a hint right away that this is a more current mix. Listen to how loud his voice is in the Harley ad, its similar in this demo.

Sorry about the wording. Older as in not near finished. The HD ad sounded more finished than this. It's possible this is just a version that the band screwed around with all the times Axl wasn't there. Hell, it could even be leaked because the Pitman mania is reaching new heights these days. Who knows what type of stuff the hoarders got in their vaults.

This sounds cleaner than the initial leak, but the mix is still pretty bad. No way this is the finished work from Mr. Wallace.

[Axl4Prez2004]

Big thanks to Bumblefoot, he rocks.  Thanks Younggunner!   

[Donington2007]

Fromm BBF:

"This is why leaks are a problem. It's like working on a painting, and someone displaying it when it's only half done. It hurts the artist because something's getting out there that people assume is the final version, the best version, etc.

The other people that it hurts are the FANS - I mean the *real* fans, the ones that care the most. The latest "leak" is obviously some experimental mix of Better - not any version I ever heard, but I don't claim to have heard everything that's out there... Whoever put it out there did a real mindfucking of the fans, especially to do it now, when the album's release is growing closer.

I have faith in everyone involved in the mixing of the album that they won't disappoint, they'll stay true to what you love about GnR. Now go hug the person next to ya. bbf"

http://www.bumblefoot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=34920#34920

he's so good at saying nothing.  does it in interviews too. if you read that with 'lawyer brain' turned on, we still have no idea if its a fan prank. and i know some idiot will answer me saying 'no he clearly said ddgdf dfgdfg dfgdf gdfg, and he says fghf g gf fgh fg h g. but i'm tellin' ya, he said nothing 

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

Whatever that song was yesterday, it isn't anymore.

There are 3 possibilities, a genuine leak, a fan remaster (in that case the guy responsible should be hired asap by someone) or it's a 'feeler' to check out the vibe.

I'm leaning on the first alternative, and that it's an older demo. Definitely not a close to being finished song.

Dude its def more current. The way Axl sang it live in '06 with the 2nd chorus is the way he sings here. Also, if you listen to the live versions the synth is a lot higher in the mix than in the previously leaked demo, just like this version. Its def a more current version of the song than the leak of last year. It sounds closer to being finished than last years. The sound is a lot better, you can hear everything clearer and Axl's voice is a lot louder in the mix. Axl's voice should be a hint right away that this is a more current mix. Listen to how loud his voice is in the Harley ad, its similar in this demo.

Sorry about the wording. Older as in not near finished. The HD ad sounded more finished than this. It's possible this is just a version that the band screwed around with all the times Axl wasn't there. Hell, it could even be leaked because the Pitman mania is reaching new heights these days. Who knows what type of stuff the hoarders got in their vaults.

This sounds cleaner than the initial leak, but the mix is still pretty bad. No way this is the finished work from Mr. Wallace.

I dont think this is finished, but I do think its a lot closer to being finished. From this version, I'd say a little tinkering is still left, plus mastering obviously.

[-Jack-]

Look everyone:


either u like Better or u dont like it.

The song is not gonna sound much different than what we've heard.

If u dont like the vocals,lyrics,melodies or main guitar parts, U arent gonna like it PERIOD!

The final mix will have maybe a different solo, maybe different sounds here and there but essentially what the song is will remain.


So if u dont like it by now, U arent gonna like it.

Disagreed man. I understand what you're saying, "If you don't like Better already you probably won't like it no matter what" but really mixing makes a huge difference. Not to mention that they've likely added parts.

They could still butcher the song.. and they could still make it 4 times better.... it all depends on the mixing.

[benchiefjr]

Fromm BBF:

"This is why leaks are a problem. It's like working on a painting, and someone displaying it when it's only half done. It hurts the artist because something's getting out there that people assume is the final version, the best version, etc.

The other people that it hurts are the FANS - I mean the *real* fans, the ones that care the most. The latest "leak" is obviously some experimental mix of Better - not any version I ever heard, but I don't claim to have heard everything that's out there... Whoever put it out there did a real mindfucking of the fans, especially to do it now, when the album's release is growing closer.

I have faith in everyone involved in the mixing of the album that they won't disappoint, they'll stay true to what you love about GnR. Now go hug the person next to ya. bbf"

http://www.bumblefoot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=34920#34920

he's so good at saying nothing.  does it in interviews too. if you read that with 'lawyer brain' turned on, we still have no idea if its a fan prank. and i know some idiot will answer me saying 'no he clearly said ddgdf dfgdfg dfgdf gdfg, and he says fghf g gf fgh fg h g. but i'm tellin' ya, he said nothing 

no he clearly said ddgdf dfgdfg dfgdf gdfg, he said fghf g gf fgh fg h g.

 

[MotherGooseLuvR]

I think the new leak sounds much better.  Especially the new intro.

I believe the original blog that posted this -- supposedly it was the single sent out to video directors.  There could be any number of different mixes floating around.  That's kind of Axl's game these days, isn't it?  Doesn't he claim that Oh My God as released (and dismissed) was only a 'demo?'

Personally, the more Pitman he puts in the mix, the better.  Then at least nobody's going to hear the album and say the old guys could have done it better. 

[Scabbie]

Fromm BBF:

"This is why leaks are a problem. It's like working on a painting, and someone displaying it when it's only half done. It hurts the artist because something's getting out there that people assume is the final version, the best version, etc.


http://www.bumblefoot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=34920#34920

Isn't it the same when you play unreleased song live to some extent?

[Lethalis]

The good thing is that it sounds a lot better with my headphones on.. so I apologize for the bashing of the mix 

Damn speakers.. too much bass 

[norway]

He wouldn't know whose experiment for sure.

Yeah, i listened to both and there isn't any diference in the words, notes (not kalibration) etc as i hear
Thanks for BBF replies

[madagas]

We need to listen to Bumble when he speaks. He basically told younggunner the album was being mixed in the first email/post of this thread. Bumble don't bullshit.

[D]

I think Bumble should stop talkin before he finds himself unemployed.


To me he doesn't have the seniority to be the Spokesman for GNR.

[BBF Rocks]

I think Bumble should stop talkin before he finds himself unemployed.


To me he doesn't have the seniority to be the Spokesman for GNR.

excuse me?! what a stupid post! when has bbf claimed to be the official spokesman for GNR? he is a BAND MEMBER, and a wonderful person to the fans, and for him to get criticized by those fans for shooting down rumors and setting things straight, for the better of both the band and us, is despicable.

[Cowboy Buddha]

I think Bumble should stop talkin before he finds himself unemployed.


To me he doesn't have the seniority to be the Spokesman for GNR.

He never said he was the spokesperson. 

[Dead N' Bloated]

LikeI  said,What Leak is he Talking about?
What Leak?