BLABBERMOUTH: BBF still unsure about GNR tour

[oldgunsfan]

Hey I got a crazy idea, why don't we just wait and see what happens?  Anyone who has been a GN'R fan for more than 10 minutes knows this is how they operate.  You will get an official word on something when there is one...pretty simple.  Taking out dictionaries and thesauruses and trying to flip Ron's words around to make the story you want to hear is a waste of time.  Ron was pretty clear in his statements was he not?

havent we been doing that the last 6+ months

it gives us ALOT of time to take out dictionaries and thesauruses to flip ron's words around-don't you think?

but i agree, if there's nothing to say, there's nothing to say

hopefully when they do announce tour dates, my company will have given me back my full pay so i can enjoy the show

[ppbebe]

I know for a fact that magazines carry months old interviews

[Voodoochild]

A clarification from Ron himself for those that like to read into things:

That interview where I said I was unsure about a tour was from months ago - it doesn't mean that this is the current state of things.  And I NEVER announce GNR bizz, not for me to do, I don't do it.

/jarmo

Yeah, God Forbid a bandmember mention anything about his band.........................

Didn't he already answered several questions about it?

Yeah, he should announce a tour when nothing is set on stone. And if it doesnt happens, he's a liar and shouldn't say anything.

Just like what happens now with Axl's words about Better video.

[D]

maybe i misinterpreted it

if so

I apologize

I took it like he isn't allowed to mention GNR related business and for me, if u are a member of the band, u should have the right to say whatever.

but maybe i misinterpreted it.

[-Rob-]

I know for a fact that magazines carry months old interviews

Cool.

Unfortunately, if you read the first sentence, you'll know that this interview was conducted "recently" and not months ago.

[sofine11]

maybe i misinterpreted it

if so

I apologize

I took it like he isn't allowed to mention GNR related business and for me, if u are a member of the band, u should have the right to say whatever.

but maybe i misinterpreted it.

Or maybe some people will say quite literally anything to make you think that nothing is wrong with how this band communicates with their fans.  

[jarmo]

maybe i misinterpreted it

if so

I apologize

I took it like he isn't allowed to mention GNR related business and for me, if u are a member of the band, u should have the right to say whatever.

but maybe i misinterpreted it.

You misinterpreting something? Who would've guessed....


Maybe it's because you want to believe your own little theories so bad that it doesn't really matter what the truth is.


The fact that the band members don't always want to speak about band related issues definitely must mean that they're not allowed to talk! It can't have anything to do with the fact that words get twisted around and they'll get called liars if things don't go as hoped...

Or maybe some people will say quite literally anything to make you think that nothing is wrong with how this band communicates with their fans.   

Here we go again.

Axl came to the boards and spoke directly to us.

That's unheard of in many other bands.


Yet, everything sucks and they should be more like all those other bands who just put out updates to keep people interested.





/jarmo

[sofine11]

maybe i misinterpreted it

if so

I apologize

I took it like he isn't allowed to mention GNR related business and for me, if u are a member of the band, u should have the right to say whatever.

but maybe i misinterpreted it.

You misinterpreting something? Who would've guessed....


Maybe it's because you want to believe your own little theories so bad that it doesn't really matter what the truth is.


The fact that the band members don't always want to speak about band related issues definitely must mean that they're not allowed to talk! It can't have anything to do with the fact that words get twisted around and they'll get called liars if things don't go as hoped...




/jarmo

I'm not blaming anyone, but perhaps the fans wouldnt be so edgy if things constantly "didnt go as hoped."  It affects the fans the same way it does the band because we're all very involved with what happens next.  These ridiculous news/activity droughts dont necesarilly help their cause when members act all aloof when they're asked what's on the horizon for GNR.

[ppbebe]

I know for a fact that magazines carry months old interviews

Cool.

Unfortunately, if you read the first sentence, you'll know that this interview was conducted "recently" and not months ago.

 'recent' is a relative concept. No date whatever.

[sofine11]

Or maybe some people will say quite literally anything to make you think that nothing is wrong with how this band communicates with their fans.   

Here we go again.

Axl came to the boards and spoke directly to us.

That's unheard of in many other bands.


Yet, everything sucks and they should be more like all those other bands who just put out updates to keep people interested.





/jarmo
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That was awesome of Axl.  No one is saying it wasnt.  But that was a week after CD dropped, and I think that there were A LOT of expectations as to what would materialize between now and then.  Since then, other than the announcement of DJ as Robin's replacement, there has been nothing going on.  What annoys me is how the band members who arent Axl still act all aloof when it comes answering questions about the future of the band, post Chinese Democracy.  I hate to say it, cuz I love all these guys, but its as if they cant say whats currently going on with the band without written consent.  Its frustrating that when they're asked the questions we really want to have answered, they act all coy and shy away.

We always talk about how these guys arent being promoted and sold as the New Guns N' Roses.  Well it's no wonder Rolling Stone type interviews dont happen with these guys because everything we've seen so far leads us to believe that other than discussing what equipemnt they used on the album, they cant really discuss the meaty questions we all want answered.  Maybe their upcoming "video answers" will shed some light on that.  Because that's still happening.  

[Voodoochild]

I know for a fact that magazines carry months old interviews

Cool.

Unfortunately, if you read the first sentence, you'll know that this interview was conducted "recently" and not months ago.

Really? Then what was that?

That interview where I said I was unsure about a tour was from months ago

[jarmo]

I'm not blaming anyone, but perhaps the fans wouldnt be so edgy if things constantly "didnt go as hoped." 

If you look at how things have gone in the past, every time Axl has said something and it didn't happen, this has been brought up as an example of Axl lying.

He's not a liar.

So he says something he wants to do. Put out a video or whatever.

Then it doesn't happen and immediately Axl is called a liar.

Then, if he chooses to explain why it didn't happen, some of us will appreciate it and others will just keep calling him a liar and/or saying that Axl always blames others while in reality it's all his fault.



If you take all this into consideration, maybe keeping your mouth shut is the best option.

Even though people get frustrated about not getting updates, at least nobody's labeled a liar.



As I said in another thread, I hope all those who have always found something to whine about regarding GN'R are happy.

When they toured, the wrong songs were played the wrong way in the wrong place at the wrong time. Now they're not touring, so those people must be happy.

When they didn't release an album, it was wrong. So they released it and it still was wrong because it had the wrong songs and it's not the next album.

When Axl talked to the fans either on the boards or in interviews, he said the wrong things about the wrong subjects and lied because things didn't happen. So now there's no interviews. That must be great right?





/jarmo

[sofine11]

I'm not blaming anyone, but perhaps the fans wouldnt be so edgy if things constantly "didnt go as hoped." 

If you look at how things have gone in the past, every time Axl has said something and it didn't happen, this has been brought up as an example of Axl lying.

He's not a liar.

So he says something he wants to do. Put out a video or whatever.

Then it doesn't happen and immediately Axl is called a liar.

Then, if he chooses to explain why it didn't happen, some of us will appreciate it and others will just keep calling him a liar and/or saying that Axl always blames others while in reality it's all his fault.



If you take all this into consideration, maybe keeping your mouth shut is the best option.

Even though people get frustrated about not getting updates, at least nobody's labeled a liar.



As I said in another thread, I hope all those who have always found something to whine about regarding GN'R are happy.

When they toured, the wrong songs were played the wrong way in the wrong place at the wrong time. Now they're not touring, so those people must be happy.

When they didn't release an album, it was wrong. So they released it and it still was wrong because it had the wrong songs and it's not the next album.

When Axl talked to the fans either on the boards or in interviews, he said the wrong things about the wrong subjects and lied because things didn't happen. So now there's no interviews. That must be great right?





/jarmo

I think that the fans that whine about everything he does are a minority.  And if, in fact, they are the reason for the lack of interviews and current communication with the fans, then God help us if his skin really is that thin, and there goes his bad boy "fuck all" legacy.  That's what it is to be a celebrity.  It's the trade off.  You dont punish the entire fanbase because you're sick of being criticized.  I mean seriously.

[jarmo]

I was exaggerating a bit to make a point. I hope you still managed to get it.





/jarmo

[oldgunsfan]

I'm not blaming anyone, but perhaps the fans wouldnt be so edgy if things constantly "didnt go as hoped." 

If you look at how things have gone in the past, every time Axl has said something and it didn't happen, this has been brought up as an example of Axl lying.

He's not a liar.

So he says something he wants to do. Put out a video or whatever.

Then it doesn't happen and immediately Axl is called a liar.

Then, if he chooses to explain why it didn't happen, some of us will appreciate it and others will just keep calling him a liar and/or saying that Axl always blames others while in reality it's all his fault.



If you take all this into consideration, maybe keeping your mouth shut is the best option.

Even though people get frustrated about not getting updates, at least nobody's labeled a liar.



As I said in another thread, I hope all those who have always found something to whine about regarding GN'R are happy.

When they toured, the wrong songs were played the wrong way in the wrong place at the wrong time. Now they're not touring, so those people must be happy.

When they didn't release an album, it was wrong. So they released it and it still was wrong because it had the wrong songs and it's not the next album.

When Axl talked to the fans either on the boards or in interviews, he said the wrong things about the wrong subjects and lied because things didn't happen. So now there's no interviews. That must be great right?

/jarmo

yes, i think? what is the point?  i got lost between what was wrong and what was right?  is it multiple choice? or is a page long answer required? or should people stop commenting, speculating, praising, complaining until there is something to talk about? 

it sounds like what you were trying to say in that verbose post is that Axl can't please everybody? even though he never was trying?

[14 Yrs Of Silence]

Nice to hear from Ron.  He's been a great mouthpiece for the band.  Its difficult to understand why everything with GN'R seems more complicated than other bands yet we love Axl and the band so much so its frustrating to wait for tour news but eventually they will tour, whether its next month or next year, so lets just hope things fall into place and we'll get the best show from them!

[eragon]

The fact that the band members don't always want to speak about band related issues definitely must mean that they're not allowed to talk!
/jarmo

Who's to blame?

[ppbebe]

you? 

[jarmo]

The fact that the band members don't always want to speak about band related issues definitely must mean that they're not allowed to talk!
/jarmo

Who's to blame?

Anybody who thinks that must be the case needs to think again.





/jarmo

[D]

I read an awesome Bumble interview a few minutes ago. He definitely is great for this band. Amazing attitude and the guitar work he did on the song CD is great and I like his Riad solo also.