GNR special on MTV Brasil

[Will]

It looks like it will be just the Tokyo show. I dunno if all the show will be with only this video, but the part was November Rain from Tokyo '02 for sure.  

Did you mean Tokyo 1992, or Tokyo 2002?
I'm pretty sure you meant 92 but it doesn't hurt to ask...

[Pinball Wizard]

I'm almost shoot myself!

Another commercial of this special and they show "Patience" on Tokio 92...another song of this show...and there's a write where says "In?dito" (Unpublished)...If they broadcast this show, I will kill myself!!

It's unbelieveble!! They have a lot of material of GNR!!!As far as I know they have the Ritz 88, S?o Paulo 92, Rio de Janeiro 92, Tokio 92, Rock In Rio 2 and, correct me if I'm wrong, They have one show of american tour (2002)...they have all performances on the vma's, all the videoclips and a lot of interviews too, some never broadcast!! I mean, Why they do this?? Why they broadcast a show there's is available on DVD and the whole world have it!!

[Will]

I think they do that because Geffen/ Universal asked [paid] them to (in order to sell more UYI Live In Tokyo DVDs)...

[Pinball Wizard]

I think they do that because Geffen/ Universal asked [paid] them to (in order to sell more UYI Live In Tokyo DVDs)...

probable...I hate this...

[John Daniels]

It was also the Tokyo show that they broadcasted here in Finland a couple of weeks ago.

[Fuckin' Gunner]

Right now VJ Sarah said that is a show from Use Your Illusion Tour...

(She can?t say "Illusion" !!!)

[Pinball Wizard]

the "unpublished" "special" is done...they just broadcast a couple of songs o' this show...

PS.: just songs of the first DVD...

[Lourenco]

Silvio cantando Guns ia ser legal, afinal, Guns ? roque!!!

I don?t know about GH selling in Brazil, I always see #1 in everywhere, but never saw nothing about Brazil...

I saw in a store yesterday, it was 40 reais!!! Very fuckin? expansive...

I'm not talkin' about rate of exchange between Dolar and Real, But, If here in Brazil, the GH cost 10, 11 or 12, just like on US and Europe, maybe I buy it...but 40 is a insult to my inteligence! Why i will give away 40 reais on a CD that I already have the whole songs?!? Must to be crazy to do something like that...By the Way, the cd's here in Brazil is soooo expansive!! Sometime I go to a rock store here on Rio de Janeiro, and I pay 108 reais on 3 cd's! Rob Halford's resurrection, Manson's Golden Age of... and Skid Row's SubHuman Race...it's a lot of money!!If it was like US or Europe I must pay something like 40! (I'm not talkin' about rate of exchange...)

In Europe CD's cost anywhere between 18 and 22 ?.. not 10!

[Pinball Wizard]

Silvio cantando Guns ia ser legal, afinal, Guns ? roque!!!

I don?t know about GH selling in Brazil, I always see #1 in everywhere, but never saw nothing about Brazil...

I saw in a store yesterday, it was 40 reais!!! Very fuckin? expansive...

I'm not talkin' about rate of exchange between Dolar and Real, But, If here in Brazil, the GH cost 10, 11 or 12, just like on US and Europe, maybe I buy it...but 40 is a insult to my inteligence! Why i will give away 40 reais on a CD that I already have the whole songs?!? Must to be crazy to do something like that...By the Way, the cd's here in Brazil is soooo expansive!! Sometime I go to a rock store here on Rio de Janeiro, and I pay 108 reais on 3 cd's! Rob Halford's resurrection, Manson's Golden Age of... and Skid Row's SubHuman Race...it's a lot of money!!If it was like US or Europe I must pay something like 40! (I'm not talkin' about rate of exchange...)

In Europe CD's cost anywhere between 18 and 22 ?.. not 10!

Well...I saw that price in one a selling site...but, must be in one country where euro is not the official money...

[Voodoochild]

It looks like it will be just the Tokyo show. I dunno if all the show will be with only this video, but the part was November Rain from Tokyo '02 for sure.  

Did you mean Tokyo 1992, or Tokyo 2002?
I'm pretty sure you meant 92 but it doesn't hurt to ask...

Uh... sorry, I meant 92... I guess I'm brainwashed with those 2002 bootlegs.  

They have one show of american tour (2002)...

I don't think that MTV has Tacoma 2002... It was just some footage to the news and interviews. They don't have to record all songs or get the entire pro-shot from the GNR crew. I know this because I'm journalist and I did some reviews of a bunch of gigs here in Brazil for a tv station.  

[Reinaldo]

What a fiasco!!!!! MTV Brazil... always ignoring us, poor fans..
announcing for days that it was an unpublished special and then showing a gig from 10 years ago, that EVERYONE have already seen!! That doesn?t exist!

They?ll probably do the same thing next week for part 2.

Bruno, guess my "jab?" theory was right... unfortunately

See ya!

[Voodoochild]

Bruno, guess my "jab?" theory was right... unfortunately

Yeah, I know now...  

[RnT]

What a fiasco!!!!! MTV Brazil... always ignoring us, poor fans..
announcing for days that it was an unpublished special and then showing a gig from 10 years ago, that EVERYONE have already seen!! That doesn?t exist!

They?ll probably do the same thing next week for part 2.

Bruno, guess my "jab?" theory was right... unfortunately

See ya!

There?s a part 2 !?

[Voodoochild]

There?s a part 2 !?

"Show me the money!"  
Why not put some 2002 interview? Maybe Universal has no needs to associate new GNR with the classic line-up, as they made with GH.  

[Reinaldo]

There?s a part 2 !?

I think that way because they played songs from the first part of the show... maybe they'll also present UYI II... some famous songs such as SCOM, PC, YCBM and KOHD are there, so...
By the way, some guy here (from Australia or Finland, not sure) said his local MTV showed the exact same show they put here, and on the next day part II, so...

But, like Bruno said, would be great if they put the 2002 interviews... but I don?t expect anything good from MTV Brazil.

[RnT]

There?s a part 2 !?

I think that way because they played songs from the first part of the show... maybe they'll also present UYI II... some famous songs such as SCOM, PC, YCBM and KOHD are there, so...
By the way, some guy here (from Australia or Finland, not sure) said his local MTV showed the exact same show they put here, and on the next day part II, so...

But, like Bruno said, would be great if they put the 2002 interviews... but I don?t expect anything good from MTV Brazil.

COOL if there?s a part 2 !  

Guys, face it.
GNR WAS the best band in the world... but they aren?t anymore!


WHY?

CAUSE THEY ARE NOT RELLEASING SOME "NEW SHIT"! THAT?S WHY!
we are hardcore fans, so that TOKYO SHOW is shit to be showed with the word "in?dito" ("unpublished"), but MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT BEGUN TO LIKE ROCK N ROLL IN THE 96/97 DON?T KNOW ABOUT GUNS N ROSES! so a lot of people just like that GNR for videoclips and old interviews...
and the "product" selling right now is a GREATEST HITS... and of course geffen/$$/marketing is running in their veins  

so why they have to show other show and not show the "best" show that GNR released as "official" GNR LIVE PERFORMANCE?

MTV BRAZIL don?t hate GNR

GNR is a "joke" right now to the midia ... RESPECT? why? if neither AXL ROSE talk to his fans?

I don?t see pearl jam videos anymore on mtv ( and pearl jam is still "alive"...)
I don?t see skid row videos anymore
I don?t see alice in chains videos anymore

I LOVE AIC, but GNR is bigger that these 3
and OF COURSE we will see a huge marketing to this CHINESE DEMOCRACY thing, BELIEVE ME.

just my thoughs btw

c-ya

[estranged.1098]

if neither AXL ROSE talk to his fans?

Yeah, right.

Anyway, maybe you should creat a blog or something where you can post your feelings on GNR everyday... cause it's getting old to read you saying the same thing over and over again.

[Fuckin' Gunner]

They don?t hate GN?R, they love money, is different...

But they respect more Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam an "Skid Rola" than GN?R... they are always making stupid jokes about Axl, saying he?s fat... Penelope alwats says it, Didi sait in in the last Videoclash... Leo Madeira always say "toca Guns"... and Sarah... she don?t even knows if Chinese Democracy exists... maybe she thinks Slash is in the band too!!!

[Reinaldo]

Guys, face it.
GNR WAS the best band in the world... but they aren?t anymore!
WHY?
CAUSE THEY ARE NOT RELLEASING SOME "NEW SHIT"! THAT?S WHY!

Sorry, Renato, but I disagree with you in some points... first...
GNR IS one of the best bands in the world, because people like them a lot, and they are relevant, and not because they release or not a new album...
The Beatles and Led Zeppellin ARE two of the best bands ever, they don?t exist anymore... but they?re so important that they are present on people' s music until now!! We can't say they WERE the best... cause they still are. Same with GNR, despite of members changes, the essential is still there...

we are hardcore fans, so that TOKYO SHOW is shit to be showed with the word "in?dito" ("unpublished"), but MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT BEGUN TO LIKE ROCK N ROLL IN THE 96/97 DON?T KNOW ABOUT GUNS N ROSES! so a lot of people just like that GNR for videoclips and old interviews...
and the "product" selling right now is a GREATEST HITS... and of course geffen/$$/marketing is running in their veins  

so why they have to show other show and not show the "best" show that GNR released as "official" GNR LIVE PERFORMANCE?

I see very young people listening / wearing shirts / talking about GNR (not as much like they do about Britney, NSync etc, but you can say that's part of the MTV influence).

MTV BRAZIL don?t hate GNR

GNR is a "joke" right now to the midia ... RESPECT? why? if neither AXL ROSE talk to his fans?

I don?t see pearl jam videos anymore on mtv ( and pearl jam is still "alive"...)
I don?t see skid row videos anymore
I don?t see alice in chains videos anymore

I LOVE AIC, but GNR is bigger that these 3
and OF COURSE we will see a huge marketing to this CHINESE DEMOCRACY thing, BELIEVE ME.

just my thoughs btw
c-ya

MTV Brazil don?t like GNR, just see the comments from the VJ's, see how many times a GNR video / special is broadcasted there... Although the bands you mentioned are cool they can't be compared to GNR.

Yes they're  a joke because of CD delays.. think that it never happened to anyone before... but it's a problem only to GNR and to the fans.. the media should report things, which is their role in this life,  and don't give unnecessary opinions, like they do.

RESPECT.. same thing above... if they don?t like GNR, that?s their problem... We do... and the audience must come in first place.. our interests must be above their particular ones. That?s what our law displays...C?digo de Defesa do Consumidor!

[RnT]

Guys, face it.
GNR WAS the best band in the world... but they aren?t anymore!
WHY?
CAUSE THEY ARE NOT RELLEASING SOME "NEW SHIT"! THAT?S WHY!

Sorry, Renato, but I disagree with you in some points... first...
GNR IS one of the best bands in the world, because people like them a lot, and they are relevant, and not because they release or not a new album...
The Beatles and Led Zeppellin ARE two of the best bands ever, they don?t exist anymore... but they?re so important that they are present on people' s music until now!! We can't say they WERE the best... cause they still are. Same with GNR, despite of members changes, the essential is still there...

I AGREED WITH YOU DUDE.
I?m saying that this is not the 92/93/94 audience anymore on mtv ... and you know that
of course GNR is one of the best bands in the world, but TO US! "HARDCORE FANS", but the most part of the people that just "liked" GNR back in time NOW don?t know the things that WE know beeing averyday in a message board...

do you remember GAST?O talking about AXL ROSE and GNR?!
MAN !!!! HE LOVED THE BAND!
but the new mtv?s audience don?t even remember GNR anymore...

of course vj?s like penelope, leo madeira saying shit about the band is not cool, but we have to face that is just "some people" there ... not the whole MTV.

if neither AXL ROSE talk to his fans?

Yeah, right.

Anyway, maybe you should creat a blog or something where you can post your feelings on GNR everyday... cause it's getting old to read you saying the same thing over and over again.

TO YOU MR. estranged.1098

Thread: Seriously People, what are you holding onto?, What keeps the faith alive?

"COUSE I LOVE ROCK N ROLL
I LOVE AXL AND THE NAME GNR
I LOVE THE OLD LINE UP AND THE NEW
GNR IS MORE THAT "JUST" AXL
I SEE VELVET REVOLVER AND I JUST SEE SOME MEMBERS OF GNR DOING SOMETHING DIFERENT
I SEE AXL AND I SEE MY IDOL, THAT FUCKER THAT MADE MY CRY WHEN I WAS 11 YEARS OLD LISTENING TO PATIENCE

I FUCKING LOVE THIS BAND SO MUCH THAT I CAN?T BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE IN THIS WORLD DON?T LIKE GNR, I JUST CAN?T BELIEVE!

I ALREDY CRIED HEARING TO LAYNE STALEY ( AIC ) LYRICS AND MELODIES... WHEN HE DIED I FELT A BIG PART OF ME DYING THAT DAY, I FUCKING CRIED LIKE A LITTLE GIRL IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MAN... ME, A GROWING MAN, A BRASILIAN... AND I PRAY TO AXL TO LIVE HIS LIFE WITH HEALTH TILL H?S 100 YEARS OLD, COUSE MAYBE WHEN I 99 I DIED AND I WON?T SEE THIS MAN DEAD BEFORE ME

that?s why brow... that?s why.

( sorry the caps lock guys, I?m not screaming... )

ps: and sorry my bad english too"

This post has been edited by RnT on Apr 21 2004, 04:00 AM



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