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Slash clearly was a addict. No one is saying he wasn't.
Axl's behavior during the 1990 onward time frame definitely didn't help him though. It probably caused him to use more and drink more. You can't say that his consumption is 100% his fault.
Him doing drugs is obviously but the enviroment in which he was in and the frustration and struggles is not. Reading books and different accounts and history tells us for sure... that Axl made things difficult. That was kinda what was so cool about old gn'r all of the crazy stuff.
No one is perfect and I'll always believe the drama in Gn'R was more Axl than anyone else, but Slash wasn't in a situation where stopping would of been "easy" or anything.
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I think all of that is fair.
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I almost feel like I need cookies and milk because you agreed with me.
Just kidding. The history of Gn'R is incredibly interesting though.
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Re: Wonder if Slash finally realizes......
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Quote from: Thorned Rose on February 02, 2016, 12:26:28 PM
Slash clearly was a addict. No one is saying he wasn't.
Axl's behavior during the 1990 onward time frame definitely didn't help him though. It probably caused him to use more and drink more. You can't say that his consumption is 100% his fault.
Pretty simplistic view of things I think.
For example. 2001, alcohol poisoning and cancellation of tour dates. That was after GN'R.
Glad he's doing better nowadays.
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Re: Wonder if Slash finally realizes......
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Quote from: jarmo on February 02, 2016, 01:02:07 PM
Quote from: Thorned Rose on February 02, 2016, 12:26:28 PM
Slash clearly was a addict. No one is saying he wasn't.
Axl's behavior during the 1990 onward time frame definitely didn't help him though. It probably caused him to use more and drink more. You can't say that his consumption is 100% his fault.
Pretty simplistic view of things I think.
For example. 2001, alcohol poisoning and cancellation of tour dates. That was after GN'R.
Glad he's doing better nowadays.
/jarmo
Isn't the heart device needed because of excessive alcohol abuse?
Also glad he is doing better
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Re: Wonder if Slash finally realizes......
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February 02, 2016, 02:57:32 PM »
Didn't Axl go on stage in 1989 and call out the band members at those Rolling Stones gigs?
I mean Axl has had his fair share of fuck ups.. and a lot more than Slash for sure. He never really abused substances no... but he had other mental issues.
Slash yeah he got crazy way after Gn'R broke up so there's not really an excuse for that. The road to get their wasn't completely his fault in the enviroment that he's in with Guns. Yeah it was years past all of that, and anything he did after 1996 to himself is clearly his fault, but it isn't like all the late shows and the forced contract name rights and all of that didn't help anything.
That heart defillibrator or whatever it is called was due to years of excess use of alchohol. Not just him binging for 2-3 years after he left Axl and Guns. Lets not kid outselves. I love Axl and Slash man. I just recognize what actually happened from multiple sources and common sense.
What about Axl not showing up to multiple recording sessions in 1995 and 1996?
I think Jerry Heller and the "Ain't Life Grand" stuff really got to him too.
At the end of the day... no matter what people think or what they say...
Slash albums released....
1995, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014
Axl/Guns N' Roses albums release
2008
That's it people. It is very clear that Axl was very difficult in those end years of Gn'R and contributed to great frustration of other band members. Why was no one else around after 1997? That explains it pretty well.
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I'm also glad he's doing better and has released more than 1 album in 20 years
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Re: Wonder if Slash finally realizes......
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Quote from: Thorned Rose on February 02, 2016, 02:57:32 PM
Didn't Axl go on stage in 1989 and call out the band members at those Rolling Stones gigs?
I mean Axl has had his fair share of fuck ups.. and a lot more than Slash for sure. He never really abused substances no... but he had other mental issues.
Slash yeah he got crazy way after Gn'R broke up so there's not really an excuse for that. The road to get their wasn't completely his fault in the enviroment that he's in with Guns. Yeah it was years past all of that, and anything he did after 1996 to himself is clearly his fault, but it isn't like all the late shows and the forced contract name rights and all of that didn't help anything.
That heart defillibrator or whatever it is called was due to years of excess use of alchohol. Not just him binging for 2-3 years after he left Axl and Guns. Lets not kid outselves. I love Axl and Slash man. I just recognize what actually happened from multiple sources and common sense.
What about Axl not showing up to multiple recording sessions in 1995 and 1996?
I think Jerry Heller and the "Ain't Life Grand" stuff really got to him too.
At the end of the day... no matter what people think or what they say...
Slash albums released....
1995, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014
Axl/Guns N' Roses albums release
2008
That's it people. It is very clear that Axl was very difficult in those end years of Gn'R and contributed to great frustration of other band members. Why was no one else around after 1997? That explains it pretty well.
No.
The implosion was due to several contributing factors and circumstances surrounding the band both internal and external- no one person was to blame.
Nobody "causes" an addict to use/abuse- that is their choice.
Also, you are leaving out the CD/DVD/Blu-ray live recording Appetite For Democracy- which sold
very
well.
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Re: Wonder if Slash finally realizes......
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February 02, 2016, 07:57:48 PM »
Quote from: Thorned Rose on February 02, 2016, 02:58:10 PM
I'm also glad he's doing better and has released more than 1 album in 20 years
Somebody described that sentence as a troll battle cry- I agree.
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Re: Wonder if Slash finally realizes......
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on February 02, 2016, 07:55:45 PM
Quote from: Thorned Rose on February 02, 2016, 02:57:32 PM
Didn't Axl go on stage in 1989 and call out the band members at those Rolling Stones gigs?
I mean Axl has had his fair share of fuck ups.. and a lot more than Slash for sure. He never really abused substances no... but he had other mental issues.
Slash yeah he got crazy way after Gn'R broke up so there's not really an excuse for that. The road to get their wasn't completely his fault in the enviroment that he's in with Guns. Yeah it was years past all of that, and anything he did after 1996 to himself is clearly his fault, but it isn't like all the late shows and the forced contract name rights and all of that didn't help anything.
That heart defillibrator or whatever it is called was due to years of excess use of alchohol. Not just him binging for 2-3 years after he left Axl and Guns. Lets not kid outselves. I love Axl and Slash man. I just recognize what actually happened from multiple sources and common sense.
What about Axl not showing up to multiple recording sessions in 1995 and 1996?
I think Jerry Heller and the "Ain't Life Grand" stuff really got to him too.
At the end of the day... no matter what people think or what they say...
Slash albums released....
1995, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014
Axl/Guns N' Roses albums release
2008
That's it people. It is very clear that Axl was very difficult in those end years of Gn'R and contributed to great frustration of other band members. Why was no one else around after 1997? That explains it pretty well.
No.
The implosion was due to several contributing factors and circumstances surrounding the band both internal and external- no one person was to blame.
Nobody "causes" an addict to use/abuse- that is their choice.
Also, you are leaving out the CD/DVD/Blu-ray live recording Appetite For Democracy- which sold
very
well.
Nah... cause I didn't included Slash's Roxy album, his LIve is Stone and his live in manchester one.
That would of really really made it even
MORE
embarassing for you and your illogical cry child ways lol.
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Re: Wonder if Slash finally realizes......
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February 03, 2016, 03:20:57 PM »
Quote from: Thorned Rose on February 03, 2016, 11:15:34 AM
Quote from: EmilyGNR on February 02, 2016, 07:55:45 PM
Quote from: Thorned Rose on February 02, 2016, 02:57:32 PM
Didn't Axl go on stage in 1989 and call out the band members at those Rolling Stones gigs?
I mean Axl has had his fair share of fuck ups.. and a lot more than Slash for sure. He never really abused substances no... but he had other mental issues.
Slash yeah he got crazy way after Gn'R broke up so there's not really an excuse for that. The road to get their wasn't completely his fault in the enviroment that he's in with Guns. Yeah it was years past all of that, and anything he did after 1996 to himself is clearly his fault, but it isn't like all the late shows and the forced contract name rights and all of that didn't help anything.
That heart defillibrator or whatever it is called was due to years of excess use of alchohol. Not just him binging for 2-3 years after he left Axl and Guns. Lets not kid outselves. I love Axl and Slash man. I just recognize what actually happened from multiple sources and common sense.
What about Axl not showing up to multiple recording sessions in 1995 and 1996?
I think Jerry Heller and the "Ain't Life Grand" stuff really got to him too.
At the end of the day... no matter what people think or what they say...
Slash albums released....
1995, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014
Axl/Guns N' Roses albums release
2008
That's it people. It is very clear that Axl was very difficult in those end years of Gn'R and contributed to great frustration of other band members. Why was no one else around after 1997? That explains it pretty well.
No.
The implosion was due to several contributing factors and circumstances surrounding the band both internal and external- no one person was to blame.
Nobody "causes" an addict to use/abuse- that is their choice.
Also, you are leaving out the CD/DVD/Blu-ray live recording Appetite For Democracy- which sold
very
well.
Nah... cause I didn't included Slash's Roxy album, his LIve is Stone and his live in manchester one.
That would of really really made it even
MORE
embarassing for you and your illogical cry child ways lol.
Here's a little hint- personal insults
don't
strengthen your arguments and aren't really allowed here.
I'm not "embarrassed" about a
single
thing regarding GNR and I don't regret a single show I attended, looking forward to April and seeing some shows.
GNR have been infinitely more successful than the people that exist to find fault with them on message boards.
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Re: Wonder if Slash finally realizes......
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February 03, 2016, 04:00:32 PM »
Bickering and being difficult with "no stance" arguments from you really isn't allowed either is it?
Or it shouldn't be at least. You just complain and argue for no reason. I'll post something with facts lined to it and give my opinion based on those facts and you'll act like I'm crazy or making it up lol.
You're truly a character.
And like I said. Live recordings don't count, and it would of made your Pro NU GN'R stance look even worse.
We all love the same band(s) man. Why are you so annoying. I'm going to just skip your posts an tune you out from now on.
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February 03, 2016, 04:38:23 PM »
To be fair.
You post some facts and ignore others.
Things aren't always
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February 03, 2016, 04:39:51 PM »
I try to be level headed about things jarmo.
the fun thing that is so great is the gnr history
its complicated... controversial and deep. I try to keep facts out in front. Objectivity is key when stating what you think sometimes.
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