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Title: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: TAP on March 04, 2007, 05:13:11 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/04/missing.woman.ap/index.html

MOUNT CLEMENS, Michigan (AP) -- A man suspected of killing and dismembering his wife was captured Sunday as he fled searchers, running through snow in northern Michigan, police said.

Stephen Grant had been the subject of a manhunt since police discovered what they believe to be the torso and other body parts of his wife, Tara Lynn Grant, in and around the couple's house in a suburb of Detroit.

Grant was arrested in Bliss Township in northern Michigan, some 225 miles from his home, after an air and ground search by local, state and federal agencies, according to the Emmet County sheriff's department. (Watch why police call Grant 'elusive' Video)

Officials said he was not dressed for the weather, with overnight temperatures in the area in the teens and 20s, and he did not struggle.

"He was not in the condition to run anymore or obviously to flee," Macomb County Sheriff Mark Hackel said.

Grant was being treated Sunday for hypothermia and possible frostbite at Northern Michigan Hospital in Petoskey, and was in stable condition, said Dr. John Bednar. Grant was cooperative and expected to make a full recovery, except for his feet, Bednar said.

His lawyer, David Griem, said on Saturday that he feared his client was suicidal, but Hackel said there was no indication that Grant tried to commit suicide.

Griem said Sunday that he was withdrawing his representation of Grant. He said he wasn't aware if Grant had another lawyer.

"If I can't give a client all of my blood, sweat and tears, it's time for that client to find a new attorney and time for me to move on down the road," said Griem, adding that he was both surprised and relieved that Grant hadn't killed himself.

Hackel said Grant apparently fled on his own. "I don't believe he's had any help since Friday night," he said.

A truck that police believe Grant drove from his home was found Saturday night near Carp Lake, close to the bridge linking Michigan's Lower and Upper Peninsulas.

The crew of a Coast Guard helicopter helped lead ground searchers to Grant after spotting fresh footprints in the snow of a wooded area, said Lt. Jeremy Loeb of the Coast Guard Air Station in Traverse City.

Grant didn't say anything when he was hoisted into the helicopter. "He wasn't doing very well medically," Loeb said. "He didn't have a lot of clothing on that would protect him from the elements."

Hackel said Grant apparently fled on his own. "I don't believe he's had any help since Friday night," he said.

An arrest warrant was issued Saturday charging Grant with murder, disinterment and mutilation.

Grant, 37, who had maintained his innocence in his wife's disappearance, went missing before police searched his home Friday and Saturday in Washington Township, about 30 miles outside Detroit.

Searchers found the torso in the garage and what were thought to be other parts of Tara Grant's body in a nearby park. The search for evidence and other remains resumed Sunday. (Watch neighbors describe the Grants' relationship Video)

The body had not been positively identified as of late Saturday, but the sheriff has said he was certain it was Tara Grant's. An autopsy was scheduled.

Tara Grant was last seen February 9, and Stephen Grant reported her missing five days later. Police say the day the 34-year-old businesswoman went missing, the Grants argued over her frequent business trips abroad.

If convicted of his wife's murder, Grant could be sentenced to life in prison without parole.

The Grants' two children, a 6-year-old girl and a 4-year-old boy, were staying with relatives.


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: EFISH on March 04, 2007, 05:14:10 PM
More sick crimes!

Nice title by the way, you racist scum!  :hihi:


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: 2112 on March 04, 2007, 05:15:28 PM
racist!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Drew on March 04, 2007, 05:18:06 PM
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Take the white out of the title! Boohoo!!!  :rofl:



Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Communist China on March 04, 2007, 05:21:46 PM
So, it's funny when people specify the white-ness, but terrible when they mention the black-ness??


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: CheapJon on March 04, 2007, 05:23:17 PM
all white people are killers, that's the first thing i think about when i see the title of this thread


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Bill 213 on March 04, 2007, 05:25:39 PM
So, it's funny when people specify the white-ness, but terrible when they mention the black-ness??

That's the perils of what society deems proper for us good folk! ?Now if only Dave Chappelle would break out those racial pixies again and teach us a lesson!


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Communist China on March 04, 2007, 05:27:10 PM
So, it's funny when people specify the white-ness, but terrible when they mention the black-ness??

That's the perils of what society deems proper for us good folk! ?Now if only Dave Chappelle would break out those racial pixies again and teach us a lesson!

Gotta love the racial pixies!


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: The Dog on March 04, 2007, 06:00:11 PM
mentioning white in the title of this thread is just as retarded as mentioning the kid was black in the other one.  race, in both cases, had nothing to do with either story. 

had the other thread never been created and Tap started this one with "white 32 year old..." in the headline I bet you'd all be asking, "why did you put white in the title?"


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: CheapJon on March 04, 2007, 06:07:33 PM
had the other thread never been created and Tap started this one with "white 32 year old..." in the headline I bet you'd all be asking, "why did you put white in the title?"

i can honestly say that i wouldn't have asked that : ok:


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Jim Bob on March 04, 2007, 06:12:17 PM


had the other thread never been created and Tap started this one with "white 32 year old..." in the headline I bet you'd all be asking, "why did you put white in the title?"

nope.   i would assume it meant the 32 year old murderer was indeed a white male.    No where in that would I assume that only white people are murderers or that all white people are murderers.   

some of you people need to take a simple course in logic.


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Drew on March 04, 2007, 06:23:33 PM
had the other thread never been created and Tap started this one with "white 32 year old..." in the headline I bet you'd all be asking, "why did you put white in the title?"

i can honestly say that i wouldn't have asked that : ok:

Nor I.


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: The Dog on March 04, 2007, 06:28:28 PM


had the other thread never been created and Tap started this one with "white 32 year old..." in the headline I bet you'd all be asking, "why did you put white in the title?"

nope.? ?i would assume it meant the 32 year old murderer was indeed a white male.? ? No where in that would I assume that only white people are murderers or that all white people are murderers.? ?

some of you people need to take a simple course in logic.

Well I would hope not, you'd have to be a total idiot to draw those conclusions.  But if you can't see why some people would question the inclusion of race when race has zero to do with the article, well, thats another story.  Were it not for the picture on the CNN site there would be no way to even know the guys race.  Also notice how CNN didn't include "white" in their headline. 


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Jim Bob on March 04, 2007, 06:52:50 PM
nope.   i would assume it meant the 32 year old murderer was indeed a white male.    No where in that would I assume that only white people are murderers or that all white people are murderers.   

some of you people need to take a simple course in logic.

Well I would hope not, you'd have to be a total idiot to draw those conclusions


from the thread about the black kid who gave his nephews marijuana..
I'm not calling anyone a racist, but the connotation of the title of this thread implies to me the message to be conveyed is "only black people would be so f'ed up to do this".  If thats not the case, then just change the name of the thread....

(http://www.misterspunky.com/error.gif)

fucking priceless


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: The Dog on March 04, 2007, 07:02:08 PM
nope.? ?i would assume it meant the 32 year old murderer was indeed a white male.? ? No where in that would I assume that only white people are murderers or that all white people are murderers.? ?

some of you people need to take a simple course in logic.

Well I would hope not, you'd have to be a total idiot to draw those conclusions.?


from the thread about the black kid who gave his nephews marijuana..
I'm not calling anyone a racist, but the connotation of the title of this thread implies to me the message to be conveyed is "only black people would be so f'ed up to do this".? If thats not the case, then just change the name of the thread....

(http://www.misterspunky.com/error.gif)

fucking priceless

allow me to clarify because you're still not getting it (something tells me you never will), i wasn't referring to people who were reading the article, but rather the person who posted it that way in the hopes it would be conveyed that way - which in this case would be you. 

Maybe if you had read the rest of my post, where i said , "if that isn't the case, then just change the name of the thread." it would have been pretty obvious what/who I was referring to. 

I still find it funny how none of you have addressed the reason why any legit media source hasn't put "white" or "black" in the headline (or even the entire STORY)....  Maybe they need logic courses too?  ::)


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on March 04, 2007, 07:03:08 PM
 :rofl:  Ok, that thread title did crack me up!  Thank you tap1966.   :rofl:

Jim Bob, I'm familiar with most of your posts, and I'm 100% sure you're no racist.  I'm sure it was meant to be tongue in cheek.  It did strike me as odd...and I had to double-check who posted it, because I thought I was going to see the name of some racist posters here that we are all (unfortunately) to used to seeing post.   ;)

again, thanks for the laugh tap1966. 

Sincerely,
Tall Athletic White Male.   :peace:


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: GNRfan2008 on March 04, 2007, 07:11:04 PM
Either that guy is really sick or she was cheating on him, he found out, and snapped. Just my 2 cents.


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Jim Bob on March 04, 2007, 08:39:49 PM
I still find it funny how none of you have addressed the reason why any legit media source hasn't put "white" or "black" in the headline (or even the entire STORY)....  Maybe they need logic courses too?  ::)

because the liberal media is entirely too worried about being politically correct.    Your reaction is exactly why, people get sand in their vaginas over the funniest shit.


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: The Dog on March 04, 2007, 09:35:56 PM
I still find it funny how none of you have addressed the reason why any legit media source hasn't put "white" or "black" in the headline (or even the entire STORY)....  Maybe they need logic courses too?  ::)

because the liberal media is entirely too worried about being politically correct.    Your reaction is exactly why, people get sand in their vaginas over the funniest shit.

Yeah, those lefties at Fox News are such liberals:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,256339,00.html

Anyways, i wasn't the only person who thought the thread title was odd.   Like axl4prez said though i don't think you meant anything bad by it, but it was still just wierd why you included it.

whatever, i'm more interested in a thread about the porn you mentioned haha  :peace:


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: SLCPUNK on March 04, 2007, 11:53:00 PM
I still find it funny how none of you have addressed the reason why any legit media source hasn't put "white" or "black" in the headline (or even the entire STORY)....  Maybe they need logic courses too?  ::)

because the liberal media is entirely too worried about being politically correct.    Your reaction is exactly why, people get sand in their vaginas over the funniest shit.

Yeah, those lefties at Fox News are such liberals:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,256339,00.html



LOL, fawkin' CLOWN SHOEZ!!!!!

(http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/8987/clownshoeszi9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Krispy Kreme on March 05, 2007, 12:38:56 AM
Where does this "liberals at Fox" come  from? I think that most  of their  viewpoints and analysis are a  bit right  from Hitler. I have yet to see any liberal  bias  from Fox at all. I do see it on CBS, to a lesser degree on ABC. NBC is also conservative. CNN tries to be  middle  of the road, but Wolf Blitzer is a  bit  much at  times. But  I just do not get  the label attached  to Fox when my perception that if anything   it is a  far right conservative bias.


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Bill 213 on March 05, 2007, 01:00:08 AM
Where does this "liberals at Fox" come? from? I think that most? of their? viewpoints and analysis are a? bit right? from Hitler. I have yet to see any liberal? bias? from Fox at all. I do see it on CBS, to a lesser degree on ABC. NBC is also conservative. CNN tries to be? middle? of the road, but Wolf Blitzer is a? bit? much at? times. But? I just do not get? the label attached? to Fox when my perception that if anything? ?it is a? far right conservative bias.

Yeah Fox is to liberal as David Duke is to showing up at a Fugees concert.  If anything Fox news would have seen the title to that thread and expanded on it.  "Unemployed black gangster rapper smokes weed with his 2 and 5 year old fellow gang member relatives." 
I think CNN is about the safest bet out of any of the news channels...for the most part they do give a decent counter perspective on some things. 


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: freedom78 on March 05, 2007, 01:10:56 AM
I still find it funny how none of you have addressed the reason why any legit media source hasn't put "white" or "black" in the headline (or even the entire STORY)....  Maybe they need logic courses too?  ::)

because the liberal media is entirely too worried about being politically correct.    Your reaction is exactly why, people get sand in their vaginas over the funniest shit.

Or because race has NOTHING to do with either story? 

The other story's title could have read "Kid with size 5.5 shoes forces siblings to smoke pot."  This one could read "Man who dislikes lima beans dismembers wife."  Assuming those various facts were true, by your opinion they belong in the titles of these pieces.  But they don't. 

I know you think this is about "logic," but it isn't.  A good title gives IMPORTANT information, so that a reader can judge his or her interest.  By including race in either of these titles, it implies that race is somehow important, when it isn't.  If it actually was important to the story, then I would have absolutely no problem with it being used.  But, it's completely without relevance.

If someone dislikes the title because it isn't politically correct, then that's pretty worthless, in my opinion.  If race, religion, or any other "sensitive" issue is pertinent to a story, then by all means include it in the title. 


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Bodhi on March 05, 2007, 01:13:14 AM
those damn white crackers..... :hihi:


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: The Dog on March 05, 2007, 01:21:20 AM
Where does this "liberals at Fox" come? from? I think that most? of their? viewpoints and analysis are a? bit right? from Hitler. I have yet to see any liberal? bias? from Fox at all. I do see it on CBS, to a lesser degree on ABC. NBC is also conservative. CNN tries to be? middle? of the road, but Wolf Blitzer is a? bit? much at? times. But? I just do not get? the label attached? to Fox when my perception that if anything? ?it is a? far right conservative bias.

Yeah Fox is to liberal as David Duke is to showing up at a Fugees concert.? If anything Fox news would have seen the title to that thread and expanded on it.? "Unemployed black gangster rapper smokes weed with his 2 and 5 year old fellow gang member relatives."?
I think CNN is about the safest bet out of any of the news channels...for the most part they do give a decent counter perspective on some things.?

guys, its called SARCASM.  This assertion that the media is "liberal" is just retarded - as evidenced by right/conservative news outlets such as Fox.


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Krispy Kreme on March 05, 2007, 01:31:57 AM
those damn white crackers..... :hihi:

can you eat 10 in a minute? :rofl:


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Bill 213 on March 05, 2007, 01:34:39 AM
those damn white crackers..... :hihi:

can you eat 10 in a minute? :rofl:

IMPOSSIBLE  :crying: 


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: freedom78 on March 05, 2007, 01:49:25 AM
those damn white crackers..... :hihi:

can you eat 10 in a minute? :rofl:

If only there was a race that could be referred to as "Cheez-its"...


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: D on March 05, 2007, 04:00:33 AM
Leave it to the white man to have to one up the black man.


bastards!


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: D on March 05, 2007, 04:08:00 AM
Where does this "liberals at Fox" come? from? I think that most? of their? viewpoints and analysis are a? bit right? from Hitler. I have yet to see any liberal? bias? from Fox at all. I do see it on CBS, to a lesser degree on ABC. NBC is also conservative. CNN tries to be? middle? of the road, but Wolf Blitzer is a? bit? much at? times. But? I just do not get? the label attached? to Fox when my perception that if anything? ?it is a? far right conservative bias.

Yeah Fox is to liberal as David Duke is to showing up at a Fugees concert.? If anything Fox news would have seen the title to that thread and expanded on it.? "Unemployed black gangster rapper smokes weed with his 2 and 5 year old fellow gang member relatives."?
I think CNN is about the safest bet out of any of the news channels...for the most part they do give a decent counter perspective on some things.?


CNN is so fucking boring.

I like FoxNews basically cause they have entertaining personalities.

CNN I watch sometimes but I boycott it cause of Nancy Grace, I can't stand that woman.


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: SLCPUNK on March 05, 2007, 04:12:48 AM


CNN is so fucking boring.

I like FoxNews basically cause they have entertaining personalities.

CNN I watch sometimes but I boycott it cause of Nancy Grace, I can't stand that woman.

What is more important: Being entertained? Or getting facts?

Fox was brilliant because it realized that news was boring, and went about packaging it an entirely new way. It was the most clever propaganda machine in our lifetime-mainly for that reason. Sadly, the other 24/7 outlets took the ball and ran with it as well, mimicking Fox's style.

Nancy Grace is a first rate cunt, I'll agree with you on that, second only to Ann Coulter.


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: 25 on March 05, 2007, 04:22:29 AM
those damn white crackers..... :hihi:

can you eat 10 in a minute? :rofl:

If only there was a race that could be referred to as "Cheez-its"...
Chinese-Its?


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: 25 on March 05, 2007, 04:24:12 AM


What is more important: Being entertained? Or getting facts?

There's a tv news outlet which broadcasts facts? When did that happen? And do they have good graphics?


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: D on March 05, 2007, 04:46:39 AM
This may sound sad but I rarely watch the news anymore, Too depressing, it just seems news channels go for ratings more than anything else.

I've always hated the news regardless of which channel because they only report the most horrible things in the world.

You rarely see a triumphant feel good overcoming the odds story anymore, they just seem to focus on the darkness of the world and that is depressing to watch every single day.

If something important happens I usually see it on the net and read about it.


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: The Dog on March 05, 2007, 10:04:38 AM
This may sound sad but I rarely watch the news anymore, Too depressing, it just seems news channels go for ratings more than anything else.

I've always hated the news regardless of which channel because they only report the most horrible things in the world.

You rarely see a triumphant feel good overcoming the odds story anymore, they just seem to focus on the darkness of the world and that is depressing to watch every single day.

If something important happens I usually see it on the net and read about it.

well, the sad truth is, the world IS a depressing place, especially the last few years.  Thats just reality.

As for this topic, i think some of you STILL aren't getting it - its not a black/white issue - mentioning anything that has nothing to do with the story is just dumb...whether its the persons race/religion/sexual orientation/shoe size/income/location.....

like freedom said, the inclusion of any of those things implies that they are important facts.  in both cases here, the color of the persons skin wasn't important at all.  Its not that difficult of a concept to grasp.


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Danny Top Hat on March 05, 2007, 10:14:49 AM
Hannah - you're going off topic again.? Can everyone stop bickering about the race thing now because it's a really petty argument and you've all made your points already.  It's over now, and you're *all* right. :-*

Now then,

this story is really horrible, etc...

 : ok:


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: polluxlm on March 05, 2007, 10:23:11 AM
Killing the person isn't enough?

Cutting them up after the deed seems...excessive.

I don't know where these people come from or what to do with them. Research I guess.


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: The Dog on March 05, 2007, 10:24:42 AM
Hannah - you're going off topic again.  Can everyone stop bickering about the race thing now because it's a really petty argument and you've all made your points already.  It's over now, and you're *all* right. :-*

Now then,

this story is really horrible, etc...

 : ok:

yeah, i was - but i wasn't the only one!  :peace: hehe

pretty sick story indeed - i think we can all agree on that.  not much to really discuss is there?  He probably cut them up  for easy transport and concealment.  carrying out an arm or a leg is much easier to do then an entire body.... 


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: freedom78 on March 05, 2007, 11:36:25 AM
Hannah - you're going off topic again.  Can everyone stop bickering about the race thing now because it's a really petty argument and you've all made your points already.  It's over now, and you're *all* right. :-*

Now then,

this story is really horrible, etc...

 : ok:

yeah, i was - but i wasn't the only one!  :peace: hehe

pretty sick story indeed - i think we can all agree on that.  not much to really discuss is there?  He probably cut them up  for easy transport and concealment.  carrying out an arm or a leg is much easier to do then an entire body.... 

You're damn right it is...watch "Very Bad Things" for more.  : ok:


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: TAP on March 05, 2007, 01:30:41 PM
Either that guy is really sick or she was cheating on him, he found out, and snapped. Just my 2 cents.

Maybe she was cheating on him with a black 17 year old?  ;)


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: TAP on March 05, 2007, 01:31:30 PM
He probably cut them up  for easy transport and concealment.  carrying out an arm or a leg is much easier to do then an entire body.... 

Didn't he leave the torso in his garage for a month?


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Izzy on March 05, 2007, 01:38:26 PM
Why is the ethnic group of this man relevant - is the media growing more racist by the day?


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: The Dog on March 05, 2007, 01:59:22 PM
He probably cut them up  for easy transport and concealment.  carrying out an arm or a leg is much easier to do then an entire body.... 

Didn't he leave the torso in his garage for a month?

Maybe he was just lazy?  ;)


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: TAP on March 05, 2007, 02:02:26 PM
He probably cut them up  for easy transport and concealment.  carrying out an arm or a leg is much easier to do then an entire body.... 

Didn't he leave the torso in his garage for a month?

Maybe he was just lazy?  ;)

Or too busy smoking pot with his kids.  :hihi:


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: The Dog on March 05, 2007, 02:22:16 PM
He probably cut them up  for easy transport and concealment.  carrying out an arm or a leg is much easier to do then an entire body.... 

Didn't he leave the torso in his garage for a month?

Maybe he was just lazy?  ;)

Or too busy smoking pot with his kids.  :hihi:

Before or after he killed them too?  :o


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: TAP on March 05, 2007, 02:35:42 PM
He probably cut them up  for easy transport and concealment.  carrying out an arm or a leg is much easier to do then an entire body.... 

Didn't he leave the torso in his garage for a month?

Maybe he was just lazy?  ;)

Or too busy smoking pot with his kids.  :hihi:

Before or after he killed them too?  :o

You realize that all the white 32 year old wife dismemberers at this board who have a perfectly normal relationship with their kids which doesn't involve murder are going to be very offended by your stereotyping?


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: The Dog on March 05, 2007, 03:13:48 PM
He probably cut them up  for easy transport and concealment.  carrying out an arm or a leg is much easier to do then an entire body.... 

Didn't he leave the torso in his garage for a month?

Maybe he was just lazy?  ;)

Or too busy smoking pot with his kids.  :hihi:

Before or after he killed them too?  :o

You realize that all the white 32 year old wife dismemberers at this board who have a perfectly normal relationship with their kids which doesn't involve murder are going to be very offended by your stereotyping?

not really - i read the title wrong thats all, i thought he killed his kids too - so in hindsight, my post makes no sense.

Hope I didn't offend you though  : ok: hehe


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: TAP on March 05, 2007, 03:58:36 PM
From what I read today, he confessed in graphic detail and then said he loved his kids and hopes to see them soon  :o


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: The Dog on March 05, 2007, 04:22:59 PM
From what I read today, he confessed in graphic detail and then said he loved his kids and hopes to see them soon  :o

Yeah, authorities MIGHT let that happen.  :hihi:

Only way hes seeing them is if hes borrowing the Hannibal Lechter costume the cops used in Silence of the Lambs.


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Bill 213 on March 05, 2007, 05:57:33 PM
From what I read today, he confessed in graphic detail and then said he loved his kids and hopes to see them soon? :o

Yeah, authorities MIGHT let that happen.? :hihi:

Only way hes seeing them is if hes borrowing the Hannibal Lechter costume the cops used in Silence of the Lambs.

Or if his name was O.J.!


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: novemberrainx89 on March 05, 2007, 06:06:54 PM
lol nice


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: ClintroN on March 05, 2007, 06:26:27 PM
yeas, the title pissed me off too :yes: ::)


im still waitin' for the sequel to 'White Men Cant Jump' to 'Black Men Cant Play Golf For Shit'


how 'bout 'White Chicks',    will anyone have the balls to make a flick called 'Black Chicks'??????????????


fuck this world pisses me off!!!


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: The Dog on March 05, 2007, 06:29:39 PM
yeas, the title pissed me off too :yes: ::)


im still waitin' for the sequel to 'White Men Cant Jump' to 'Black Men Cant Play Golf For Shit'


how 'bout 'White Chicks',    will anyone have the balls to make a flick called 'Black Chicks'??????????????


fuck this world pisses me off!!!

wow...just wow.  I don't even know how to respond to this one.  So I won't.  hahaha.

Clintron, did you just feel a big breeze above you? B/c something just flew right over your head.  :rofl:


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: ClintroN on March 05, 2007, 06:36:58 PM
im just fed up with this FUCKED UP WORLD!!!!


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: -Jack- on March 05, 2007, 06:51:02 PM
I still find it funny how none of you have addressed the reason why any legit media source hasn't put "white" or "black" in the headline (or even the entire STORY)....  Maybe they need logic courses too?  ::)

I'm not coming into this to start a fight.. only giving my opinion.

I feel the usage of "asian" "black" "white" just gives whoever reads the article more information concerning the story. It's just like giving the persons age. Of course you could say, "Why say '32 year old man?'" Or why even say "man"?

One could easily complain that the current title is ageist or sexist also. Is it? No. Do I feel like the title is racist? No. It's just description... as the man's age and sex are.

If description is not important why not just say "A person kills and dismembers another person"?
And then you have to wonder, "Is this story even relevant at all?"

It's not. Descriptions merely make people think it is.



Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: TAP on March 05, 2007, 07:29:27 PM
I still find it funny how none of you have addressed the reason why any legit media source hasn't put "white" or "black" in the headline (or even the entire STORY)....  Maybe they need logic courses too?  ::)

I'm not coming into this to start a fight.. only giving my opinion.

I feel the usage of "asian" "black" "white" just gives whoever reads the article more information concerning the story. It's just like giving the persons age. Of course you could say, "Why say '32 year old man?'" Or why even say "man"?

One could easily complain that the current title is ageist or sexist also. Is it? No. Do I feel like the title is racist? No. It's just description... as the man's age and sex are.

If description is not important why not just say "A person kills and dismembers another person"?
And then you have to wonder, "Is this story even relevant at all?"

It's not. Descriptions merely make people think it is.



In case it wasn't obvious, the way I wrote the thread title was a joke - just trying to lighten the mood created by the 'other' thread. Anyway my 2c:

1. I don't think the media should include race, sexuality, religion, national origin etc in headlines unless it's relevant to the story, and they generally don't. Telling me their favourite GNR album, how hot their wife is or what they had for breakfast would build a description too but I'd rather build my own biases based on the facts of the story rather than irrelevant background information.

2. This is a discussion board not the media, people post stuff because it's something they want to discuss. And that comes with built in bias whether it's race, politics or Slash vs Finck - we only see a tiny fraction of the day's news posted here. So I don't think we should be held to the same standards (insert joke here) as the national press, but on the flipside if you emphasize a certain aspect of a story there's a good chance you'll get called on it and have to defend your reasons/opinions.....which is healthy IMO.


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: ClintroN on March 05, 2007, 07:41:14 PM
I still find it funny how none of you have addressed the reason why any legit media source hasn't put "white" or "black" in the headline (or even the entire STORY)....  Maybe they need logic courses too?  ::)

I'm not coming into this to start a fight.. only giving my opinion.

I feel the usage of "asian" "black" "white" just gives whoever reads the article more information concerning the story. It's just like giving the persons age. Of course you could say, "Why say '32 year old man?'" Or why even say "man"?

One could easily complain that the current title is ageist or sexist also. Is it? No. Do I feel like the title is racist? No. It's just description... as the man's age and sex are.

If description is not important why not just say "A person kills and dismembers another person"?
And then you have to wonder, "Is this story even relevant at all?"

It's not. Descriptions merely make people think it is.





OK fine, but would you say 'A black man..............', maybe, but MOST people wouldnt dare because its a racist slur, how the fuck is that justified, well, thats how this world works!!

a black rap artist can say ANYTHIN' he wants about white people n' all that bullshit...............but someone like Axl says nigger in a song lyric and its still fuckin' talked about today!!!!  ::) ::) ::)   WTF!!!




Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Bill 213 on March 05, 2007, 07:56:45 PM
Let me clear this all up with a little tune by Mr. Jefferson......EEEEEE HEEEEEEEEE, chka -chamon!
No, that's ignorant, they're ignorant!

I Took My Baby
On A Saturday Bang
Boy Is That Girl With You
Yes We're One And The Same

Now I Believe In Miracles
And A Miracle
Has Happened Tonight

But, If
You're Thinkin'
About My Baby
It Don't Matter If You're
Black Or White

They Print My Message
In The Saturday Sun
I Had To Tell Them
I Ain't Second To None

And I Told About Equality
An It's True
Either You're Wrong
Or You're Right

But, If
You're Thinkin'
About My Baby
It Don't Matter If You're
Black Or White

I Am Tired Of This Devil
I Am Tired Of This Stuff
I Am Tired Of This Business
Sew When The
Going Gets Rough
I Ain't Scared Of
Your Brother
I Ain't Scared Of No Sheets
I Ain't Scare Of Nobody
Girl When The
Goin' Gets Mean

(L. T. B. Rap Performance)
Protection
For Gangs, Clubs
And Nations
Causing Grief In
Human Relations
It's A Turf War
On A Global Scale
I'd Rather Hear Both Sides
Of The Tale
See, It's Not About Races
Just Places
Faces
Where Your Blood
Comes From
Is Where Your Space Is
I've Seen The LIGHT
Get Duller
I'm Not Going To Spend
My Life Being A Color

(Michael)
Don't Tell Me You Agree With Me
When I Saw You Kicking Dirt In My Eye

Hee, hee

But, If
You're Thinkin' About My Baby
It Don't Matter If You're Black Or White


Title: Re: White 32 year old kills and dismembers mother of his 4 and 6 year old kids
Post by: Danny Top Hat on March 05, 2007, 08:03:31 PM
No it doesn't. : ok: