Zakk Wylde gived credit to GNR songwriting

[CheapJon]

?All the bands and musicians I grew up on and loved, like Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix ? it?s their names that are on their songs. That?s the beauty of buying a record by a real artist. Guns N? Roses? Appetite for Destruction was written by Guns N? Roses, not some weak-asses like those lame songwriters for Aerosmith.

full interview: http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/zakk-wylde-527/

[gunner22]

Gotta love Zakk. This man speaks the truth.

[cineater]

Excuse me but GNR covered one of their songs.  Zakk please you're a drunk and sweatheart it's only rock n rock, wasn't meant to be that serious.  Try to have a good time.

[CheapJon]

Excuse me but GNR covered one of their songs.  Zakk please you're a drunk and sweatheart it's only rock n rock, wasn't meant to be that serious.  Try to have a good time.

You should read all that he says about songwriting

Zakk on Songwriting
?I don?t just write lyrics; I write about things that are real to me. Let me tell you something that was hysterical. I was working on Down to Earth with Ozzy and they brought in these professional songwriters. Meanwhile, I?m writing all these songs that later went into Black Label ? like ?Love Reign Down,? with that power riff that Ozzy sounds great singing over it, which was about my mother passing away, and ?Bleed for Me,? which is about God ?

?But what do I know. I guess I?m not a real songwriter, because these guys, I shit you not, decided to write a love song for Ozzy and came up with: ?Girl, you are so pretty/girl, you are so fine/girl, I brought you this flower/girl, would you be mine??

?And Ozz is just sitting there saying nothing, and I?m saying, ?You?re joking, right? Am I getting punked?? The truth is everybody just wants to get their two-cents in, if they?ve earned it or not.

?I laugh when I go into a music store and there?s a title called How to Write Songs. You can?t teach someone how to write a song. Angus Young didn?t read a couple books to learn how to write ?Hells Bells.?

?All the bands and musicians I grew up on and loved, like Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix ? it?s their names that are on their songs. That?s the beauty of buying a record by a real artist. Guns N? Roses? Appetite for Destruction was written by Guns N? Roses, not some weak-asses like those lame songwriters for Aerosmith.

?Aerosmith wrote great songs like ?Dream On? and ?Back in the Saddle? when they were on booze and drugs. Next thing you know, they get sober and bring songwriters in and then it?s the most watered down s***.

?If you can?t write songs you?re just a puppet as phony as Britney Spears and all those boy bands. If you can?t sit behind a piano or pick up a guitar and write a song, then you don?t have any business making records.?

[russtcb]

Excuse me but GNR covered one of their songs.  Zakk please you're a drunk and sweatheart it's only rock n rock, wasn't meant to be that serious.  Try to have a good time.

He wasn't talking about the old stuff like "Mama Kin" he was talking about all the stuff from about Permanent Vacation on.

[ppbebe]

Zakk Wylde gived credit to GNR songwriting

Isn't it more like zakk throwed discredit on latter day aero.  

[CheapJon]

Zakk Wylde gived credit to GNR songwriting

Isn't it more like zakk throwed discredit on latter day aero.  

my gived was a typo, missy 

[don_vercetti]

Excuse me but GNR covered one of their songs.  Zakk please you're a drunk and sweatheart it's only rock n rock, wasn't meant to be that serious.  Try to have a good time.

He wasn't talking about the old stuff like "Mama Kin" he was talking about all the stuff from about Permanent Vacation on.

Exactly, the song Gnr covered was actually written by aerosmith, not some pop songwriters. 

[LIGuns]

Exactly, the song Gnr covered was actually written by aerosmith, not some pop songwriters.

Actually Mama Kin was a Steven Tyler composition written pre-Aerosmith..Sought of like Nov. Rain was written pre-GN'R.

[falungong69]

what did he say about chinese democracy?

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

what did he say about chinese democracy?

HE SAID HE LOVED IT AND IT FEATURED THE BEST GN'R LINEUP IN HISTORY!

HE ALSO SAID THAT HE'S NOT WORTHY OF LISTENING TO SUCH A PERFECT RECORD OMG!!!!!!!

[LordRazZ]

Excuse me but GNR covered one of their songs.  Zakk please you're a drunk and sweatheart it's only rock n rock, wasn't meant to be that serious.  Try to have a good time.

Says the guy who types like he's hammered...

[cineater]

I don't think guys call other guys sweatheart.  And no I don't drink or do drugs but thanks for noticing.

Aren't you about sick of listening to the whiners?  Of the news media harpping on anything negative and finding shit on every thing they report?  They suck you right in and before you know it they got you at war with people you have no business ragging on. 

[mECHsLAVE]

And ironically, Led Zep we now know really didn't write a lot of their songs which they originally credited to themselves, they just ripped them off. 

[mrlee]

gnr had co-writers. West Arkeen etc.


And frankly, my favorite Aerosmith material was done with co-writers. Zakk only made good stuff with Ozzy and his new stuff with Ozzy sucks.

[ppbebe]

Aren't you about sick of listening to the whiners?  Of the news media harpping on anything negative and finding shit on every thing they report?  They suck you right in and before you know it they got you at war with people you have no business ragging on. 

well sorta. Dissing others work doesn't make you a better musician.

But

'Girl, you are so pretty/girl, you are so fine/girl, I brought you this flower/girl, would you be mine?'

is great. never heard of lyrics this nice and simple. 

my gived was a typo, missy 

I just thinked you finded another clang slang

[LeftToDecay]

Few months since release of Chinese Democracy and Appetite is once again starting to be the most discussed and current GNR album.

[don_vercetti]

gnr had co-writers. West Arkeen etc.


And frankly, my favorite Aerosmith material was done with co-writers. Zakk only made good stuff with Ozzy and his new stuff with Ozzy sucks.

That's not exactly the same though, is it.  West Arkeen was a good friend of the band, basically a part of the guns n roses gang, so that's still cool.  Same for 'Mama Kin', steven tyler is 1/2 of the aerosmith songwriting duo.  With later aerosmith, it was an outside team of songwriters, not at all part of the band or anything. 

One of the things I like about the new guns album is the fact that it was all written by the band themselves.  No professional songwriting team, just various different combinations/permutations which imo leads to a much better record, even if there are no hit singles. 

[falungong69]

what did he say about chinese democracy?

HE SAID HE LOVED IT AND IT FEATURED THE BEST GN'R LINEUP IN HISTORY!

HE ALSO SAID THAT HE'S NOT WORTHY OF LISTENING TO SUCH A PERFECT RECORD OMG!!!!!!!

fucking awesome.  i knew there was something i liked about that guy!

can somebody scan the article? 

[Bodhi]

what did he say about chinese democracy?

HE SAID HE LOVED IT AND IT FEATURED THE BEST GN'R LINEUP IN HISTORY!

HE ALSO SAID THAT HE'S NOT WORTHY OF LISTENING TO SUCH A PERFECT RECORD OMG!!!!!!!

I remember that Zakk interview...isnt that the one where he came out of the closet?  Oh yeah and mentioned a collaboration with Fred Durst he was working on? 

[The Glow Inc.]

I...think...that...it...was...like..uh...sarcasm.

[CheapJon]

what did he say about chinese democracy?

HE SAID HE LOVED IT AND IT FEATURED THE BEST GN'R LINEUP IN HISTORY!

HE ALSO SAID THAT HE'S NOT WORTHY OF LISTENING TO SUCH A PERFECT RECORD OMG!!!!!!!

I remember that Zakk interview...isnt that the one where he came out of the closet?  Oh yeah and mentioned a collaboration with Fred Durst he was working on? 

yeah, it was around when he stopped drinking

[Bodhi]

what did he say about chinese democracy?

HE SAID HE LOVED IT AND IT FEATURED THE BEST GN'R LINEUP IN HISTORY!

HE ALSO SAID THAT HE'S NOT WORTHY OF LISTENING TO SUCH A PERFECT RECORD OMG!!!!!!!

I remember that Zakk interview...isnt that the one where he came out of the closet?  Oh yeah and mentioned a collaboration with Fred Durst he was working on? 

yeah, it was around when he stopped drinking

yes! it is the same interview we are all talking about...thank god for blabbermouth.net...

[falungong69]

I...think...that...it...was...like..uh...sarcasm.

yeah, of course it was.  i guess it's just impossible for some people to believe that someone could love chinese democracy. 

all the closed-minded people try so hard to rain on the fans' parade. 

No one can make you
Do what they want to
You know you're stronger
Than the lies that they tell you

[ppbebe]

 
just in case, falungong69 THe Glow is saying bank of America and friends were pulling your leg.

all zakk's comments about cd I've seen are

 "What do I think of Chinese Democracy? The wife bought me a copy and it got smashed in my luggage, so I had to fuckin' buy another one. No, Axl didn't send me a copy. But he's a beautiful guy."

edit: to correct the link

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=56067.0

[The Glow Inc.]

Yes, I wasn't talking about Zakk.

I love ChiDem   

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

bank of America and friends

The newest supergroup.

[jacdaniel]

yeah, of course it was.  i guess it's just impossible for some people to believe that someone could love chinese democracy. 

all the closed-minded people try so hard to rain on the fans' parade. 

This has to be one of the funniest misunderstandings i have ever seen!

[Wooody]

If would make sense if Zakk actually had good song writing skills.

[bodine]

'Girl, you are so pretty/girl, you are so fine/girl, I brought you this flower/girl, would you be mine?'

is great. never heard of lyrics this nice and simple. 

If the World . . .

[ppbebe]

If the World . . .

you gotta be joking. IF the world even deals with the end of the world and aliens.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=53252.msg1184375#msg1184375
for the details

[bodine]

If the World . . .

you gotta be joking. IF the world even deals with the end of the world and aliens.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=53252.msg1184375#msg1184375
for the details

speaking mainly to the first verse, admittedly not my fav off the CD but I gotta give you your props, you put some thought into it!!!

[Bitch Slap Rappin]

Well we all know Zakk is first a lead-guitarist before anything else. He works really well with a lead singer as far as songwriting goes. I admire his appraisal of C.D. What is even more crazy is I can imagine getting rid of all the guitar players on CD and Zakk doing it all. (I'm not implying that the guitar players on CD aren't good. But from where Zakk stands it would of been more of a killer cd if it was Zakk and one other guitar player. (They'd probably be touring already.) lolo

[ppbebe]

speaking mainly to the first verse, admittedly not my fav off the CD but I gotta give you your props, you put some thought into it!!!

Why, thanks! 

yea there're too many great songs on cd to decide your fav.

[Smoking Guns]

Excuse me but GNR covered one of their songs.  Zakk please you're a drunk and sweatheart it's only rock n rock, wasn't meant to be that serious.  Try to have a good time.

I think he is talking from the 80's on up.... Demond Child etc....  Some of those songs are freaking lame as hell.

[Skunk]

Cool Appetite mention, but i think pretty weak to call out Aerosmith like that. Not only to get on them for sobering up, but to imply that they became puppets like britney who "can't write songs"?
Take a quick look at Pump, Aerosmith's popular album from that time and you'll see six of nine songs written without outside help. And Zakk's a great guitarist, but to put down Steven Tyler as a songwriter is pretty crazy. There's no comparison.

[Shutupandsing]

Excuse me but GNR covered one of their songs.  Zakk please you're a drunk and sweatheart it's only rock n rock, wasn't meant to be that serious.  Try to have a good time.

I think he is talking from the 80's on up.... Demond Child etc....  Some of those songs are freaking lame as hell.

Agreed, please don't mention Desmond Child while I'm eating.
And to put it bluntly,some people have the gift of writing great songs, some simply think they do. The best songs are written by grabbing that writhing gut wrenching feeling and tearing it out by the roots while it's still warm and spreading it out into verses.