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Title: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: GNR_Green on November 01, 2003, 07:14:55 AM
I remember ages ago that Izzy's biography (maybe auto, can't remember what I read) was due to come out next year.  Does anyone know if/when?  I expect it would make great reading.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on November 01, 2003, 12:59:19 PM
The press release from Black Market Publishing says "Set to be released in the spring of 2004".



/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Izzy on November 01, 2003, 01:36:26 PM
The press release from Black Market Publishing says "Set to be released in the spring of 2004".



/jarmo

Now where else have i read about a spring 2004 release for something.........


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: KeVoRkIaN on November 01, 2003, 05:43:23 PM
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Now where else have i read about a spring 2004 release for something.........
Quote

Hahahaha  :hihi:



Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Fretzo on April 03, 2004, 10:26:33 AM
Hi, this is my first post.  I've been reading these boards for about a year now and I remeber talk of an Izzy Stradlin' biography to be released in 2004.  I was just wondering if anyone else remebers this or has any new updates.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: matt88 on April 03, 2004, 10:49:44 AM
Hi, this is my first post.  I've been reading these boards for about a year now and I remeber talk of an Izzy Stradlin' biography to be released in 2004.  I was just wondering if anyone else remebers this or has any new updates.


Sorry i havent heard anything but i thought i'd say welcome :)


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Fretzo on April 03, 2004, 04:05:47 PM
can anyone remember which publishing company was releasing the book?


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Pandora on April 03, 2004, 07:10:43 PM
It's Black Market Publishing ;) Their website gives no further information yet.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on April 03, 2004, 07:49:44 PM
I e-mailed them and if they write back, I'll post it in this thread.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: the dirt on April 04, 2004, 10:49:57 PM
If it does come out, it would be an interesting read : ok:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Rebecca Duff Rose on April 17, 2004, 07:59:48 AM
Welcome to the board!  ;D
Izzy's bio would be a super book!  :beer:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on April 17, 2004, 09:44:21 AM
No reply yet.  :-\




/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Izzy Ozora on April 19, 2004, 07:32:35 AM
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I am Izzy Ozora, are you want to know my life?


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: biddybaby on May 10, 2004, 11:35:46 PM
Black Market Publishing has formally announced plans for the first ever biography of legendary Guns N Roses rhythm guitar player and lead songwriter Izzy Stradlin! "Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin", set to be released in the spring of 2004, this biography promises to deliver for fans the full story on one of hard rock's most intriguing and elusive icons, chronicling Izzy's rise with hard rock's most notorious frontman W. Axl Rose from Lafayette, Indiana to the streets of Hollywood in the early 1980s, where the two rose through the Sunset Strip underground via Hollywood Rose toward stardom in what would become the biggest rock band in the world at its peak, Guns N Roses. As Axl Rose's companion and principle songwriting partner for the better half of 2 decades, Izzy Stradlin carved out his niche as one of the most respected rhythm guitar players in hard rock history, writing many of Guns N Roses most famous anthems along the way, becoming a multi-millionaire in the process, and then, disappearing at the peak of Guns N Roses popularity.

Featuring exlusive interviews with many current and former GnR insiders, as well as members of Izzy's solo band, the Ju Ju Hounds, and other relevant sources, Black Market Publishing hopes to offer fans the most revealing portrait ever on one of hard rock's coolest rebels!

Black Market Publishing has secured an interview with Juju Hounds co-founder and bassist Jimmy Ashurst, who co-wrote the hit 'Shuffle It All' with Izzy Stradlin, and recorded and toured as a member of the JuJu Hounds between 1991 and 1995.


from www.izzy-stradlin.com
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Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Izzy on May 11, 2004, 07:58:17 AM
That should be intresting - i will make sure to grab hold of a copy



Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: erose on May 11, 2004, 11:11:42 AM
very interesting!


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Fretzo on May 11, 2004, 01:40:03 PM
It's actually not an autobiography. It's a biography, written by someone other than Izzy himself.
I started a thread about the release date of this biography a few weeks back.  There are only a few weeks of spring 2004 left so hopefully it will be published soon, although we're GNR fans so we're already over-prepared for a delayed release date.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Slashly on May 11, 2004, 07:27:27 PM
I?ll get a copy as soon as it comes out :yes:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: kockstar99 on May 11, 2004, 10:00:12 PM
when will this be released??  this and Nikki Sixx heroin Diarys should be awsome if they ever come out...


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Pandora on May 19, 2004, 09:48:27 AM
I got a reply from them :

"It is [still set for release].  Fall of 2004, we have just started principle interviewing, the book will press in September.  I will email you an update when we are taking pre-orders.  Thanks, Jake "


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Fretzo on May 19, 2004, 01:05:52 PM
Thanks, that's great.  
I hope that Izzy is involved in some way.  It would be nice to get a second version of Vince Neil's story about Izzy in The Dirt.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Fretzo on May 19, 2004, 01:08:13 PM
This should get moved to the main GNR section.  This may be the closest that they'll get to seeing a release date for anything this year. ;)


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on May 19, 2004, 04:50:29 PM
For some reason I keep thinking it's Izzy's auto-biography... I guess not.

Either way, it should be a great read.  8)


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on August 26, 2004, 03:55:37 PM
Black Market Publishing has formally announced plans for the first ever biography of legendary Guns N Roses rhythm guitar player and lead songwriter Izzy Stradlin! "Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin", set to be released in the fall of 2004, this biography promises to deliver for fans the full story on one of hard rock's most intriguing and elusive icons, chronicling Izzy's rise with hard rock's most notorious frontman W. Axl Rose from Lafayette, Indiana to the streets of Hollywood in the early 1980s, where the two rose through the Sunset Strip underground via Hollywood Rose toward stardom in what would become the biggest rock band in the world at its peak, Guns N Roses. As Axl Rose's companion and principle songwriting partner for the better half of 2 decades, Izzy Stradlin carved out his niche as one of the most respected rhythm guitar players in hard rock history, writing many of Guns N Roses most famous anthems along the way, becoming a multi-millionaire in the process, and then, disappearing at the peak of Guns N Roses popularity.


Featuring exlusive interviews with many current and former GnR insiders, as well as members of Izzy's solo band, the Ju Ju Hounds, and other relevant sources, Black Market Publishing hopes to offer fans the most revealing portrait ever on one of hard rock's coolest rebels!



News on "Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin":

June 16, 2004- Black Market Publishing completed our sixth interview for the Izzy Stradlin biography with former Guns N' Roses manager Vicky Hamilton.

June 12, 2004- Black Market Publishing completed our fifth interview for the Izzy Stradlin biography with founding Hollywood Rose Guitarist Chris Weber.

May 29, 2004- Black Market Publishing completed our fourth interview for the Izzy Stradlin biography with Izzy's former live-in girlfriend, Angela Nicoletti-McCoy.

May 24, 2004- Black Market Publishing completed our third interview for the Izzy Stradlin biography with Izzy's former roommate Adam Bomb.

May 17, 2004- Black Maket Publishing completed our second interview for the Izzy Stradlin biography with Izzy's longtime producer Eddie Ashworth, covering all aspects of Izzy in the studio, as a songwriter, producer, etc.

May 10, 2004- Black Market Publishing completed a lengthy interview with former JuJu Hounds/Broken Homes bassist Jimmy Ashurst, one of Izzy's closest friends throughout the 1980s and 1990s. Ashurst co-wrote the hit 'Shuffle It All' with Izzy Stradlin, and recorded and toured as a member of the JuJu Hounds between 1991 and 1996.


From: http://www.blackmarketpublishing.com/

Thanks to Dutchizzy



/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Skeletor on August 26, 2004, 04:43:56 PM
I just wonder what kind of role Izzy will have or has had in the creation of this book? Will he contribute at all?


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Pandora on August 26, 2004, 05:18:31 PM
Yes, it looks like they interviewed everybody and their mother except.......Izzy  :hihi:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Fretzo on September 22, 2004, 12:18:22 PM
Blackmarket Publishing (www.blackmarketpublishing.com) is planning on releasing a Izzy Stradlin' biography.
Here are a list of people who have already been interviewed:

Former Guns N' Roses manager Vicky Hamilton.

Founding Hollywood Rose Guitarist Chris Weber.

Izzy's former live-in girlfriend, Angela Nicoletti-McCoy.

Izzy's former roommate Adam Bomb.

Izzy's longtime producer Eddie Ashworth, covering all aspects of Izzy in the studio, as a songwriter, producer, etc.

A lengthy interview with former JuJu Hounds/Broken Homes bassist Jimmy Ashurst, one of Izzy's closest friends throughout the 1980s and 1990s. Ashurst co-wrote the hit 'Shuffle It All' with Izzy Stradlin, and recorded and toured as a member of the JuJu Hounds between 1991 and 1996.

I sent them(hardrockbooks@hotmail.com) an e-mail to ask about the release date.

I mentioned that i'm a poster at this board and that if they give me any info about the book or the release date I will post it here for thousands of GNR fans to read each day. I mentioned that this website promotes all material released by GNR and it's former members so this would be a good place to get the word out to GNR fans.

If more people can send e-mails like this I think that we would have a good chance at getting a response.

thanks.



Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: pettyblue440 on October 22, 2004, 12:50:48 AM
I sent them an email for a release date and how to purchase the book and never got a reply.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: N.I.B on October 22, 2004, 06:24:12 PM
Yes, it looks like they interviewed everybody and their mother except.......Izzy? :hihi:

 :hihi:

is the book an offical biogrophy or an unofficial one?


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Skeletor on October 22, 2004, 07:31:39 PM
Izzy's former live-in girlfriend, Angela Nicoletti-McCoy.

Oh christ, that woman is the dumbest person on earth. Still, it might be an enjoyable read, I suppose..


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Pandora on October 23, 2004, 08:38:53 PM

is the book an offical biogrophy or an unofficial one?

Unofficial.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Walapino on October 28, 2004, 01:17:33 AM
Is this thing out or what?


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Pandora on October 28, 2004, 12:19:04 PM
No it's not out yet. It was supposed to be published around September, but I guess something went wrong.....


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Skeletor on October 28, 2004, 05:02:22 PM
No it's not out yet. It was supposed to be published around September, but I guess something went wrong.....

OMG a delay in the GNR world.. who could've guessed?? ?:o ???


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: N.I.B on November 15, 2004, 08:25:09 PM
No it's not out yet. It was supposed to be published around September, but I guess something went wrong.....

OMG a delay in the GNR world.. who could've guessed?? ?:o ???

 :hihi: izzys not as bad as Axl is though. hes better with dates. Axl just needs to buy a calendar.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on December 01, 2004, 07:33:57 PM
We are pleased to report that "Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin" is now available for pre-order from Black Market Publishing for $21.00 US, payable via Cash, Check or Money Order. 

The book's official release date is February 17, 2005, but those customers who preorder the book now will be eligible for a special of 2 books for $30.00 US, a $12 savings.  Please email a confirmation of your pre-order to us at hardrockbooks@hotmail.com or malibupress@yahoo.com.  We expect to begin shipping pre-orders in the middle to end of January, 2005.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: badapple81 on December 01, 2004, 10:21:27 PM
Thanks Jarmo :)

Will be a great read!


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on December 02, 2004, 01:33:43 PM
We are pleased to report that "Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin" is now available for pre-order from Black Market Publishing for $21.00 US, payable via Cash, Check or Money Order.?

The book's official release date is February 17, 2005, but those customers who preorder the book now will be eligible for a special of 2 books for $30.00 US, a $12 savings.? Please email a confirmation of your pre-order to us at hardrockbooks@hotmail.com or malibupress@yahoo.com.? We expect to begin shipping pre-orders in the middle to end of January, 2005.




/jarmo

wow - great surprise!  8)

So we're just supposed to email then saying we want to pre-order the book?  They dont have a website?


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: SADIS on December 03, 2004, 05:34:09 AM
What's up with hotmail and yahoo adresses? Sounds a bit spooky/fake to me. Why don't they have an official website or something?


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on December 03, 2004, 07:54:12 AM
http://www.blackmarketpublishing.com/




/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Rohlm on December 03, 2004, 07:15:42 PM
Yea!!!


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: dont_damn_me on December 12, 2004, 09:53:23 PM
Izzy's former live-in girlfriend, Angela Nicoletti-McCoy.

Oh christ, that woman is the dumbest person on earth. Still, it might be an enjoyable read, I suppose..


How well do you know this dumb chick? what are you basing your statement on??


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Skeletor on December 14, 2004, 12:24:16 PM
Izzy's former live-in girlfriend, Angela Nicoletti-McCoy.

Oh christ, that woman is the dumbest person on earth. Still, it might be an enjoyable read, I suppose..


How well do you know this dumb chick? what are you basing your statement on??

There was a reality tv show in Finland about Mr. and Mrs. Andy McCoy, and she had a lot of exposure there. That woman has no brains.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Layne420 on December 14, 2004, 11:38:38 PM
Here's the lastest on the book

All you ever wanted to know about former Guns N' Roses guitarist Izzy Stradlin can now be found in one convenient location: "Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin." According to Black Market Publishing, which expects to release the biography on February 17, the book will chronicle Stradlin's "rise with hard rock's most notorious frontman, W. Axl Rose, from Lafayette, Indiana, to the streets of Hollywood in the early 1980s." The tome will feature interviews with "GN'R insiders" and members of Stradlin's band the Ju Ju Hounds. ...

Later


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: DemocracyRose on December 15, 2004, 07:26:04 AM
All you ever wanted to know about former Guns N' Roses guitarist Izzy Stradlin can now be found in one convenient location: "Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin." According to Black Market Publishing, which expects to release the biography on February 17, the book will chronicle Stradlin's "rise with hard rock's most notorious frontman, W. Axl Rose, from Lafayette, Indiana, to the streets of Hollywood in the early 1980s." The tome will feature interviews with "GN'R insiders" and members of Stradlin's band the Ju Ju Hounds. ...


http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1494868/20041214/tyler_liv.jhtml?headlines=true


Oopss.. I have just find, that there are a thread about the book...? :-[

Jarmo, can you remove it??


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on January 29, 2005, 06:43:59 PM
Quote
We expect to begin shipping pre-orders in the middle to end of January, 2005.


Has anybody heard anything about this?



/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Rohlm on January 30, 2005, 03:50:14 PM
I haven't gotten anything yet. I was thinking about emailing them just to check in. Did you order it as well Jarmo?


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on January 30, 2005, 04:44:49 PM
No, I didn't. But I know somebody who did....


Edit:

Got this in my e-mail today:

"Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin" is currently at press, and will be shipping pre-orders within the next 10 days. The cover looks AMAZING, and the book, topping out at roughly 200 pages, promises to be a great read for any die-hard Izzy or Guns N' Roses fan. Currently, the book is available for order at amazon.com, here's the link.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0972614222/qid=1107330592/sr=1-8/ref=sr_1_8/102-0495682-3867353?v=glance&s=books




/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Freya on February 08, 2005, 11:28:10 AM
Whoever gets it should post a review, I want to know if it's worth getting.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Pandora on February 08, 2005, 01:12:12 PM
I ordered it, I'll make a review as soon as I'm finished reading it. Unless someone else is quicker than me  ;)


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: GypsySoul on February 11, 2005, 07:28:38 PM
FYI:

Two weeks ago, I sent an e-mail to hardrockbooks@hotmail.com questioning them on when I could expect the books I pre-ordered in the beginning of December.? I never got a reply.? (I placed my pre-order at this e-mail address).

Today, February 11th, I tried to call them to ask when I could expect the books and got the "phone number has been temporarily disconnected" recording.

THE BOOK IS STILL LISTED ON AMAZON.com ... but I'm a little worried that I've been scammed.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Pandora on February 11, 2005, 08:15:41 PM
Yeah, I was fearing that too since it's not a big publishing house. That's why I didn't preorder it and waited for it to show up on Amazon.
Has your payment been cashed in?


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: GypsySoul on February 11, 2005, 08:39:15 PM
Has your payment been cashed in?

I don't know.? I sent it as a money-order.? :-\


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jimmythegent on February 17, 2005, 09:27:45 PM
Has anyone got a copy yet? I am dead keen to read this, he is an extremly intriguing figure to me


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Pandora on February 21, 2005, 07:20:07 PM
Shipping of my book is delayed by Amazon. Doesn't look too good  :-\


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: dancewmrbrownstone on February 22, 2005, 09:13:40 PM
Last thing I heard, complete release of the book has been delayed.

All you ever wanted to know about former Guns N' Roses guitarist Izzy Stradlin can now be found in one convenient location: "Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin." According to Black Market Publishing, which expects to release the biography on February 17, the book will chronicle Stradlin's "rise with hard rock's most notorious frontman, W. Axl Rose, from Lafayette, Indiana, to the streets of Hollywood in the early 1980s." The tome will feature interviews with "GN'R insiders" and members of Stradlin's band the Ju Ju Hounds. ...


http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1494868/20041214/tyler_liv.jhtml?headlines=true


Oopss.. I have just find, that there are a thread about the book...  :-[

Jarmo, can you remove it??

I'm surprised MTV still even cares.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: KZiggy on February 24, 2005, 08:29:17 AM
Update on shipping for Izzy Stradlin Book from PUBLISHER

To all who have ordered this book, we first thank you for your orders.

The latest updates are as follows:

1.) We had to have the cover redesigned at the last minute due to a copyright issue over the photo we had first been given permission to use. We had to secure a new one, and this held us up a few days.

2.) Because the book was already at press when we were sandbagged with this at the last minute, we had to stop the order in the middle of pressing a couple weeks ago (early Feb), pay for the disposal of about 200 covers, and then resubmit the whole book for re-press with the new cover. This ate up another week because they had to reformat everything, etc.

3.) The book is currently at press with the new cover, which looks AMAZING, and is a photo I am not sure has been seen of Izzy before. We are getting daily updates on progress- expect our first shipment of books in at the end of next week- and will begin shipping on Monday March 7.

4.) US orders will recieve the book quicker than international orders for obvious reasons, but we will ship all pre-orders which have already been placed on that same date.

We thank all of you who have ordered the book already, and encourage those of you who still wish to order, or who have emailed questions concerning existing orders to refer to the aforementioned. You can also email us at hardrockbooks@hotmail.com with questions. Thank you, Staff, BMP


We apologize profusely
 
*******************
Posted by B.M.P on www.beenafix.com


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: GypsySoul on February 25, 2005, 08:44:35 PM
3.) The book is currently at press with the new cover, which looks AMAZING, and is a photo I am not sure has been seen of Izzy before. We are getting daily updates on progress- expect our first shipment of books in at the end of next week- and will begin shipping on Monday March 7.

 
*******************
Posted by B.M.P on www.beenafix.com


Thanks for posting that KZiggy but I have my doubts what B.M.P says there is true.? :no:

I placed my pre-order in early December expecting to receive the book in the middle of January like the ad said ... then, according to the e-mail that Jarmo received on January 30th(posted above), the shipping date would be the 10th of February ... now it's March 7...

To date, they never answered the e-mail I sent them questioning the delay in shipping and their phone has been disconnected ...

My suggestion to those who want to order this book is to wait until somebody actually receives a copy.? ?:(



Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: a fan on February 26, 2005, 01:19:30 PM
Izzy didn't give his permission for this book.  So why is everyone buying it?  You wouldn't like it if all your experiences and relationships (good and bad) were exploited to the world.  Have some morale and don't buy it.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on February 26, 2005, 01:45:56 PM
Do you own any unofficial biographies or even merchandise?

I know why people are buying it. They want to read about Izzy. Izzy's probably never gonna write a book himself so this will have to do for the people who are interested in his career.


Izzy never did any kind of announcement that he was against it.  At least I don't remember any. Axl, Duff and Slash tried stopping the Greatest Hits by going to court. A different thing, but the message is kinda clear.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: a fan on February 26, 2005, 01:58:18 PM
Do you own any unofficial biographies or even merchandise?

I know why people are buying it. They want to read about Izzy. Izzy's probably never gonna write a book himself so this will have to do for the people who are interested in his career.


Izzy never did any kind of announcement that he was against it.? At least I don't remember any. Axl, Duff and Slash tried stopping the Greatest Hits by going to court. A different thing, but the message is kinda clear.



/jarmo
Well, if it was someone like Axl, it would be different because he has talked about his life and childhood, etc. in interviews.  But Izzy is a private person, and has never talked about his personal life.  It is invasion of privacy, and since Izzy is very private, I assume that he wouldn't want everything about his life shared with the world against his will.  And Izzy wouldn't be able to prevent it anyway unless there were inaccurate facts or it harmed his reputation.  I am curious about the book too, but I won't buy it because it feels wrong to me to invade someone's privacy, and then trying to justify it.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: a fan on February 26, 2005, 02:13:49 PM
Izzy's life and his relationships and experiences are for him and people he chooses to share those things with. They are not for run-of-the-mill fans who are being unjustly handed these facts by a man (the author) who has no right to disclose this information.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on February 26, 2005, 02:32:12 PM
Oh, writing about Axl is different... Right.


They interviewed former band mates, a producer, a manager and one ex-girlfriend. Seems like it's gonna be about his life as a musician and not about Izzy, the husband/boyfriend.


If it turns out to be a book about very personal stuff, then I can understand your concerns. But if it's a book about how Izzy got into music, moved to Hollywood, played in bands, became famous and then quit GN'R, then I'm not so sure I agree with you.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: a fan on February 26, 2005, 02:38:54 PM
I just meant that I don't think Axl would mind as much since his personal life is already pretty much out there.

How many biographies have you read that are just about the person's career?  And do you really think his ex-girlfriend isn't going to give out personal information, like details about their relationship?  And Izzy's career and how he got into music, etc. is already public knowledge.  Why would someone write a book about stuff you can find all over the internet?


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: *Izzy* on February 26, 2005, 02:42:03 PM
I agree exactly with what a fan said, the book would probabley not sell if there was nothing personal in it, I bet Axl will buy it? :hihi:
I'm definitley buyin' it anyway? : ok:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on February 26, 2005, 02:56:41 PM
I just meant that I don't think Axl would mind as much since his personal life is already pretty much out there.

That's actually quite funny.




How many biographies have you read that are just about the person's career?? And do you really think his ex-girlfriend isn't going to give out personal information, like details about their relationship?? And Izzy's career and how he got into music, etc. is already public knowledge.? Why would someone write a book about stuff you can find all over the internet?


That ex-girlfriend is from 20 years ago.

I haven't read the book so I can't say what kind it is. You seem to have some inside knowledge about it.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: a fan on February 26, 2005, 03:26:25 PM
Well, you don't know how things played out with the ex-girlfriend, if things ended bitterly.? Like, hypothetically, if Erin Everly was interviewed for a biography on Axl, I don't think she'd have too many nice things to say about him, even though it was about 14 years ago.?

But I convinced 2 people on another forum not to buy the book, so at least I did one good thing today.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on February 26, 2005, 03:40:04 PM
I'm not gonna recommend or tell people not to buy it based on what I think it might be about.

I can recommend Tommy's solo album because I think it's really good. I can say that VR's "Contraband" DualDisc and the unofficial GN'R "Sex, Drugs & Rock N' Roll" DVD are a waste of money because I own them. I haven't read the book so I can't say anything about it.






/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: dolphin on February 26, 2005, 07:53:32 PM
I just meant that I don't think Axl would mind as much since his personal life is already pretty much out there.

That's actually quite funny.




How many biographies have you read that are just about the person's career?? And do you really think his ex-girlfriend isn't going to give out personal information, like details about their relationship?? And Izzy's career and how he got into music, etc. is already public knowledge.? Why would someone write a book about stuff you can find all over the internet?


That ex-girlfriend is from 20 years ago.

I haven't read the book so I can't say what kind it is. You seem to have some inside knowledge about it.



/jarmo


I'll buy the book.

Izzy was married then he got divorced.? He did have a girlfriend and they broke up.? From what I was told, Izzy is currently back together with his ex girlfriend and is very happy.

I doubt he'll give a damn about an unauthorized book.


edited to give source of 'who told me about Izzy being back together with his ex girlfriend and that would be Ian from the JuJu Hounds who I recently met a long with Rick Richards who was also in the Georgia Satelites


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: a fan on February 26, 2005, 09:06:57 PM

I'll buy the book.

Izzy was married then he got divorced.? He did have a girlfriend and they broke up.? From what I was told, Izzy is currently back together with his ex girlfriend and is very happy.

I doubt he'll give a damn about an unauthorized book.


edited to give source of 'who told me about Izzy being back together with his ex girlfriend and that would be Ian from the JuJu Hounds who I recently met a long with Rick Richards who was also in the Georgia Satelites
So you meet these people and they just openly give you information about Izzy's personal life?  Why do you need to say that anyway, whether it's true or not?  I was just fine thinking Izzy was single, now you have me upset again.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: dolphin on February 26, 2005, 09:24:19 PM
Yep.

Me: "How's Izzy?"

Ian:  "Izzy's doing great.  I just got done playing keyboards on his new album.  He's back with his ex girlfriend and he's doing just great.  He's really happy."

Me: "That's good to hear.  So when is his album coming out?"

Ian: "Soon."  (I laughed at this)

Me:  "For someone who doesn't speak to Axl anymore, he and Axl really like that word."

Ian: (smiles) "my kids will probably tell me that it's out after they see the announcement on the internet about it."

True convo. :smoking:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: a fan on February 26, 2005, 09:28:24 PM
Yep.

Me: "How's Izzy?"

Ian:? "Izzy's doing great.? I just got done playing keyboards on his new album.? He's back with his ex girlfriend and he's doing just great.? He's really happy."

Me: "That's good to hear.? So when is his album coming out?"

Ian: "Soon."? (I laughed at this)

Me:? "For someone who doesn't speak to Axl anymore, he and Axl really like that word."

Ian: (smiles) "my kids will probably tell me that it's out after they see the announcement on the internet about it."

True convo. :smoking:
Well, there hasn't been any pics of Izzy since September, and he looked miserable in them.  Where did you meet this guy?  I have a feeling you are making this up.  But I have to believe you are telling the truth.  Please admit you are lying and save me the suffering.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on February 26, 2005, 09:32:59 PM
I was just fine thinking Izzy was single, now you have me upset again.

That explains a lot.....




/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: a fan on February 26, 2005, 09:33:30 PM
I was just fine thinking Izzy was single, now you have me upset again.

That explains a lot.....




/jarmo
What do you mean?


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on February 26, 2005, 09:36:11 PM
Well, if you're upset that Izzy's not single, that must mean something....

Oh, and why do you think it's ok for you to talk about his personal life like this, but it's not ok for people to read a book about him? I mean, you were telling everybody how he's a private person and now you yourself are trying to ask dolphin questions that relate to Izzy's personal life.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: a fan on February 26, 2005, 09:39:21 PM
Well, if you're upset that Izzy's not single, that must mean something....

Oh, and why do you think it's ok for you to talk about his personal life like this, but it's not ok for people to read a book about him? I mean, you were telling everybody how he's a private person and now you yourself are trying to ask dolphin questions that relate to Izzy's personal life.




/jarmo
Dolphin said something about Izzy's personal life, and I don't think it is right for people to start false rumors.  I was merely trying to get the truth out of him.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on February 26, 2005, 09:40:55 PM
You don't know if it's a false rumor.  ::)

You're suffering because Izzy might not be single?


Seems to me like you're very interested in his personal life after all....



/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: dolphin on February 26, 2005, 09:43:16 PM
Well, if you're upset that Izzy's not single, that must mean something....

Oh, and why do you think it's ok for you to talk about his personal life like this, but it's not ok for people to read a book about him? I mean, you were telling everybody how he's a private person and now you yourself are trying to ask dolphin questions that relate to Izzy's personal life.




/jarmo
Dolphin said something about Izzy's personal life, and I don't think it is right for people to start false rumors.? I was merely trying to get the truth out of him.

That convo WAS INDEED A TRUE CONVO I HAD WITH IAN.

 :smoking:


edit to say sorry for shouting Jarmo (breaking a rule), but some people such as a fan can't quite read correctly.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: a fan on February 26, 2005, 09:44:49 PM
You don't know if it's a false rumor.? ::)

You're suffering because Izzy might not be single?


Seems to me like you're very interested in his personal life after all....



/jarmo
Well, would it be very smart of me to believe something posted without a reliable source (I don't consider word of mouth a reliable source).

You seem very upset that I don't want people buying his biography.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: a fan on February 26, 2005, 09:46:29 PM


That convo WAS INDEED A TRUE CONVO I HAD WITH IAN.

 :smoking:


edit to say sorry for shouting Jarmo (breaking a rule), but some people such as a fan can't quite read correctly.
If I remember correctly, a girl started a rumor on a forum that Axl had a girlfriend.? And that turned out false.  When and where did you speak to Ian?


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on February 26, 2005, 09:48:56 PM
You seem very upset that I don't want people buying his biography.


You've never seen me upset or very upset. I just find it amusing how you say people should respect his privacy and yet you're trying to find out more info about his personal life yourself....





/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: a fan on February 26, 2005, 09:52:52 PM
You seem very upset that I don't want people buying his biography.


You've never seen me upset or very upset. I just find it amusing how you say people should respect his privacy and yet you're trying to find out more info about his personal life yourself....





/jarmo
Well, I don't think it is respectful of Izzy's privacy to say something that could or could not be false.? A rumor is a rumor.? Yes, I want to know if he has a girlfriend or not, and that's why I'm so upset.? But I am fine not knowing these things.? I wouldn't go looking to find out if he has a girlfriend.? If he does have a girlfriend, I'd rather not know about.  But if someone on a message board says he has one, I don't know if they're telling the truth or not, and I am upset.?


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on February 27, 2005, 08:01:51 AM
Why would that make you so upset?

If you think people shouldn't talk about his personal life, shouldn't you follow your own advice and not care about whether or not he's single?




/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: *Izzy* on February 27, 2005, 08:29:03 AM
I think what he means is he doen't want to know about his personal life, but if he hears a rumour he wants to know whether or not it's true? : ok:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on February 27, 2005, 08:44:18 AM
I think the answer should be "I don't wanna hear rumors about his personal life because I respect his privacy".....

That's my opinion...




/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: dolphin on February 27, 2005, 12:32:58 PM
I think what he means is he doen't want to know about his personal life, but if he hears a rumour he wants to know whether or not it's true? : ok:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:


For the umpteenth time, I am NOT spreading a rumor about what I said about Izzy being back together with his girlfriend.

Geez people :confused:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: *Izzy* on February 27, 2005, 12:56:20 PM
I think what he means is he doen't want to know about his personal life, but if he hears a rumour he wants to know whether or not it's true? : ok:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:


For the umpteenth time, I am NOT spreading a rumor about what I said about Izzy being back together with his girlfriend.

Geez people :confused:
Are you sure? :hihi:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: dolphin on February 27, 2005, 02:08:16 PM
I think what he means is he doen't want to know about his personal life, but if he hears a rumour he wants to know whether or not it's true? : ok:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:


For the umpteenth time, I am NOT spreading a rumor about what I said about Izzy being back together with his girlfriend.

Geez people :confused:
Are you sure? :hihi:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:


yes, I'm sure.

What is that slogan?? Ah yes, I remember.? A picture lasts a lifetime; a kodak moment.

I have pictures with Rick and Ian and myself and they are fuckin' awesome :smoking:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: a fan on February 27, 2005, 03:32:20 PM
Unless you have concrete proof (which you don't), then anything you say is a rumor.? You won't even say when and where you spoke to Ian, which hints that you are lying. 

Rumor:? 1. talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source 2. a statement or report current without known authority for its truth


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: dolphin on February 27, 2005, 04:48:52 PM
 :confused:


You are truly delusional.? I am NOT lying.? Believe what you want.? I don't really care.

What I posted about Ian and what he told me about Izzy is the fucking TRUTH.

I have MY concrete proof (as you put it) in the pictures we took.? :yes: I don't really care if you can't see the reality in a situation that truly happened and if you think I am lying, that's too damn bad because I am NOT.? Izzy is back with his girlfriend according to Ian and Ian said Izzy was really happy.   I thought I'd share what little Izzy news I had that was told to me by Ian with fellow Izzy fans on this board.? ?





Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Pandora on February 27, 2005, 04:59:57 PM
Oh my god. What a mess for nothing. If Izzy's back with his ex-girlfriend and happy with her, you should be glad for him. If he's single, maybe he's got a good reason for that. Who the hell knows...it's not that big of a deal. It's not exactly like he's spilling the beans on how many times a week he has sex or something  :hihi:  Now that would be personal.

I will buy the book. A lot of unofficial biographies are very well done and respectful of the artist. I suggest you to reserve your opinion until you've read it or at least heard more about its content ;)


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: *Izzy* on February 27, 2005, 05:04:30 PM
Would Izzy not be able to stop them from publishing it if he didn't want his personal info out in the public? ???

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: dolphin on February 27, 2005, 05:09:02 PM
Would Izzy not be able to stop them from publishing it if he didn't want his personal info out in the public? ???

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:



I don't think so because it clearly says unauthorized which leaves a margin for errors.

I think anyone can compile info about an artist, actor, etc and write about it and call it unauthorized.

I really don't think Izzy will give a shit.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: *Izzy* on February 27, 2005, 05:27:46 PM

I really don't think Izzy will give a shit.

Very good point? ;D

But generally if someone didn't want a biography about themselves, full of rumours and truths, shouldn't they be allowed to stop it, the internet is bad enough? :-\

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on February 27, 2005, 09:05:44 PM
I will buy the book. A lot of unofficial biographies are very well done and respectful of the artist. I suggest you to reserve your opinion until you've read it or at least heard more about its content ;)

I'll buy it if it gets a good review from this board.  :)

I hate to ask such a fifth-grade question, but does this book have any pictures?  ;D


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: journey on February 28, 2005, 03:41:44 AM
I will buy the book. A lot of unofficial biographies are very well done and respectful of the artist. I suggest you to reserve your opinion until you've read it or at least heard more about its content ;)

I'll buy it if it gets a good review from this board.? :)

I hate to ask such a fifth-grade question, but does this book have any pictures?? ;D

I'm sure it will. But if it doesn't, you'll just have to use your imagination, random. Not all books can have pictures.? :hihi:

I'd be interested in reading a biography on Izzy, because he's always been the mysterious GNR member, in my opinion. I've never seen him do any interviews or anything. I just hope it's in good taste. I don't like those trashy tell-all types. I'll wait for a review from Pandora first.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Pandora on February 28, 2005, 08:26:18 AM

I hate to ask such a fifth-grade question, but does this book have any pictures?  ;D

Well, no one has seen it so it's hard to tell  ;D  But I'm sure it must have at least a few ;)


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on February 28, 2005, 08:28:49 AM
According to one of the posts, the picture on the cover had to be changed. So seems like there's at least one picture. ;)




/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Fretzo on February 28, 2005, 10:31:21 AM
A book from Black market publishing about a guitarist who has never been a householdname or a public figure won't exactly be a best seller so don't worry about rumous spreading like wildfire. I bet that less than 1000 copies will ever be published.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: borntolose on March 01, 2005, 08:35:17 PM
Hey has anyone gotten the book yet? I didn't think it was out yet but there is already a review of it on Amazon.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Pandora on March 02, 2005, 07:57:25 AM
Hey has anyone gotten the book yet? I didn't think it was out yet but there is already a review of it on Amazon.

I wonder where that person found it because it's still on hold at Amazon and the publisher's update stated they would start shipping the books on March 7....


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on March 02, 2005, 08:07:17 AM
Did you read the review on Amazon?

Anybody here could write the same thing without reading the book....



/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Pandora on March 02, 2005, 08:32:35 AM
Did you read the review on Amazon?

Anybody here could write the same thing without reading the book....



/jarmo


You mean there are bullshitters among GN'R fans? Wow  :o :hihi:

Seriously, that's possible but I can't really see the point of completely making up a review  ???


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: borntolose on March 02, 2005, 01:00:53 PM
I didn't think it was out either.. but this person says they got it and read it all and don't want to spoil it for anyone else. So I was confused...


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: GypsySoul on March 12, 2005, 08:32:20 PM
3.) The book is currently at press with the new cover, which looks AMAZING, and is a photo I am not sure has been seen of Izzy before. We are getting daily updates on progress- expect our first shipment of books in at the end of next week- and will begin shipping on Monday March 7.
 
*******************
Posted by B.M.P on www.beenafix.com


Thanks for posting that KZiggy but I have my doubts what B.M.P says there is true.? :no:

I placed my pre-order in early December expecting to receive the book in the middle of January like the ad said ... then, according to the e-mail that Jarmo received on January 30th(posted above), the shipping date would be the 10th of February ... now it's March 7...

To date, they never answered the e-mail I sent them questioning the delay in shipping and their phone has been disconnected ...

My suggestion to those who want to order this book is to wait until somebody actually receives a copy.? ?:(

March 7th was last Monday.? I'm typing this on the evening of March 12th.? No sign of Izzy anywhere.? :'(


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: *Izzy* on March 12, 2005, 09:17:45 PM
By the way, does anyone know if this will ever be sold in book shops, or just on amazon and the publishers website? ???? :)

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on March 18, 2005, 07:34:17 AM
IMPORTANT NOTICE:

This email confirms that 'Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story Of Izzy Stradlin' has finally cleared our legal entanglements concerning the cover photo clearance, and is formally at press.  We will have our proof this coming Monday, and will have books in the mail to everyone in approx. 10 days.
This delay has been unavoidable, and we apologize deeply for the delay.

What we need from everyone who had sent in money for a pre-order to please email us back with the following information so we can organize the ship out:

1.) Your name and full mailing address
2.) How much money you sent and how many books were covered under that order
3.) Specifically if you wired us your pre-order payment, indicate so please

We apologize for any inconvienence, but this is necessary given the multiple countries we are shipping to.  We promise no one will be disappointed in the final product, and appreciate your business.

If you have not yet ordered the book, and still wish to: Please send a check or money order made payable to Black Market Publishing, to 168 2nd Avenue, Ste 372, NY NY 10003.

Lastly, for European customers who have not yet ordered: We are in final negotiations with a publisher in Finland to license the book for release in that country, and possibly beyond to Europe-wide distribution.  We will keep everyone on this list posted.  Thank you, staff, Black Market Publishing




Got this in the e-mail today.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: GypsySoul on April 13, 2005, 09:20:37 PM
IMPORTANT NOTICE:

This email confirms that 'Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story Of Izzy Stradlin' has finally cleared our legal entanglements concerning the cover photo clearance, and is formally at press.? We will have our proof this coming Monday, and will have books in the mail to everyone in approx. 10 days.
This delay has been unavoidable, and we apologize deeply for the delay.

We apologize for any inconvienence, but this is necessary given the multiple countries we are shipping to.? We promise no one will be disappointed in the final product, and appreciate your business.



Got this in the e-mail today.

/jarmo

On March 17th, I received this same e-mail.? TO DATE I'VE RECEIVED NOTHING!!!? :rant:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Pandora on April 14, 2005, 11:34:29 AM
Yeah, it's still on hold at Amazon too, and they didn't even answer my latest email. This smells fishy indeed....


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: nyd on April 29, 2005, 12:40:57 PM
Hi,

Read the comments on our Izzy board beenafix.com before buying the book. They have used articles from Izzy/GNR sites aswell as crappy poor quality jpegs. They spell Axl as "axi" and Izzys real name is spelt Isabella (which is wrong!)

Interviews have been poorly edited together making an uncomfortable read and when we posted our negative reviews on the izzyboard this is some replies the WRITER OF THE IZZY BOOK wrote:

"most of you clowns who are knocking this book border on fucking Trekies, so I guess I feel bad enough for you as is. "

"based on your pussy-ass premature reviews, and in general, being a real pain in the ass. Another thing dude, if you attempt to contact the European publishers and get in the way of my making a living, I will sue your ass, and WIN. You can check the case law on it, what you are doing- outside of complaining on this board- borders on libel. I hope you try motherfucker."

I understand him protecting his work but it was uncalled for. A writer has to handle negative criticism more professionally.

Regards,
Will

-The Izzy board has pulled all promotion and endorsement for this book.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Pandora on April 29, 2005, 12:48:18 PM
My question is : where did you get the book?  My order is still on hold at Amazon  ???


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: nyd on April 29, 2005, 04:59:43 PM
I don't have the book, when I said 'we' I was speaking for the whole community.

I think those who have the book already ordered direct from Black Market Publishing. If you ordered off Amazon I think it was going to take an extra 2 weeks as they have to ship to Amazon, just so they can forward it to you.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: GypsySoul on May 02, 2005, 09:00:12 AM
I don't have the book, when I said 'we' I was speaking for the whole community.

I think those who have the book already ordered direct from Black Market Publishing. If you ordered off Amazon I think it was going to take an extra 2 weeks as they have to ship to Amazon, just so they can forward it to you.

I ordered mine directly from Black Market Publishing and I haven't received Jack Shit from them!? :rant:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Skeletor on May 03, 2005, 05:08:58 AM
"most of you clowns who are knocking this book border on fucking Trekies, so I guess I feel bad enough for you as is. "

"based on your pussy-ass premature reviews, and in general, being a real pain in the ass. Another thing dude, if you attempt to contact the European publishers and get in the way of my making a living, I will sue your ass, and WIN. You can check the case law on it, what you are doing- outside of complaining on this board- borders on libel. I hope you try motherfucker."

What a tool, that guy deserves to get his ass kicked. At least now I know I'm never paying a cent for that book.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Layne420 on May 09, 2005, 08:40:59 PM
Anyone know the lastest news on the Izzy book?


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Rob on May 14, 2005, 12:52:45 AM
Does anything ever come even remotely easy to GN'R fans?  What the hell are we doing wrong?


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: snooze72 on June 02, 2005, 01:32:04 AM
Did anybody ever get this book?


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on June 02, 2005, 07:55:37 AM
I don't think so.

Looks like a scam.....




/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: nyd on June 02, 2005, 11:05:57 PM
I don't think so.

Looks like a scam.....

/jarmo

People on the izzyboard have already got the book but are not happy with it. After reading other peoples reviews other members have now cancelled their orders (its just that bad!!)  :-\


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2005, 12:13:40 AM
[People on the izzyboard have already got the book but are not happy with it. After reading other peoples reviews other members have now cancelled their orders (its just that bad!!)? :-\
I don't know what those izzyboard people are claiming they've read but it certainly was NOT this book because this was just a scam!? I ordered and paid for this book back in December 2004!!!? The so-called "publisher" disconnected their phone months ago and have never replied to any of my e-mails!!!? IT WAS A SCAM!!! ?:rant:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: nyd on June 03, 2005, 07:13:44 PM
Do you want me to get someone to scan pages from the book as proof?  >:(


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Methanol on June 05, 2005, 12:59:21 PM
[People on the izzyboard have already got the book but are not happy with it. After reading other peoples reviews other members have now cancelled their orders (its just that bad!!)? :-\
I don't know what those izzyboard people are claiming they've read but it certainly was NOT this book because this was just a scam!? I ordered and paid for this book back in December 2004!!!? The so-called "publisher" disconnected their phone months ago and have never replied to any of my e-mails!!!? IT WAS A SCAM!!! ?:rant:
The book does exist, you can read more about it at the beenafix.com board. Well, you can also read some not_so_nice comments by the book author too. As nyd wrote, it looks like people are cancelling their orders because they have gotten tired of waiting for it and/or the negative comments floating around on boards.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Izzy on June 05, 2005, 04:33:08 PM
I'm confused...so does this book exist at all?

If its a scam, have the revelvant authorities been notified? Not least Izzy himself as this is surely a legal matter he would need to address himself


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: IzzyDutch on June 05, 2005, 05:02:47 PM
According to Steven Izzy wans't happy about the book, the author was trying to get info from friends and family but they didn't co?perate.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 06, 2005, 09:56:06 PM
Do you want me to get someone to scan pages from the book as proof?? >:(
The book does exist, you can read more about it at the beenafix.com board. Well, you can also read some not_so_nice comments by the book author too. As nyd wrote, it looks like people are cancelling their orders because they have gotten tired of waiting for it and/or the negative comments floating around on boards.

SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM
:rant:? I mailed in my pre-order in early December 2004.? It's been SIX MONTHS!!!? :rant:
 :rant:? NOTHING!!!? I've received NOTHING!!!? :rant:

And I believe those who ordered it on Amazon.com haven't gotten it yet either!!!? :rant:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Methanol on June 07, 2005, 02:26:16 AM

SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM
:rant:? I mailed in my pre-order in early December 2004.? It's been SIX MONTHS!!!? :rant:
 :rant:? NOTHING!!!? I've received NOTHING!!!? :rant:

And I believe those who ordered it on Amazon.com haven't gotten it yet either!!!? :rant:
I understand that you're pissed off but the book DOES exist. Atleast one beenafix member has gotten the book and as I wrote before the book author got really pissed off when the person who got the book posted some negative comments regarding the book. It's not that I'm defending the book or it's delays.

We haven't heard anything fom the author after his nicely chosen words in his "My final comments to all you clownfaces who knock the book" post.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Izzy on June 08, 2005, 03:30:44 PM

I understand that you're pissed off but the book DOES exist. Atleast one beenafix member has gotten the book and as I wrote before the book author got really pissed off when the person who got the book posted some negative comments regarding the book. It's not that I'm defending the book or it's delays.

We haven't heard anything fom the author after his nicely chosen words in his "My final comments to all you clownfaces who knock the book" post.
The words of one person are sadly not enough 'evidence' for even the most believing person.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Methanol on June 09, 2005, 12:58:15 AM
The words of one person are sadly not enough 'evidence' for even the most believing person.
If you read the comments from the book author you can be 100% sure the person got the book.? ;D

I honestly have no idea what's happening with the orders. We took away all the book promo from our site and haven't heard anything about it ever since.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Warren on June 10, 2005, 04:28:31 AM
Maybe Axl is behind that...

It wouldn't be useful to release such a book just before a reunion... Izzy understood it.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Izzy on June 10, 2005, 10:43:24 AM
Maybe Axl is behind that...

It wouldn't be useful to release such a book just before a reunion... Izzy understood it.

That must be it :hihi:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: nyd on June 13, 2005, 12:09:32 PM
From Jimmy Ashhurst (former Ju Ju Hound):

Hey Folks...thank you so much for the (mostly) nice comments. I'm so glad to see you guys keeping this site active and current after so long. I apologize for the premature posting of any news about my work with Buckcherry...the official announcement will come from management at some point, it just that at the moment my hands are tied with regard to making any announcements on my own. Lets just say that I'm happy to have found another cool rock n roll band that is worth putting my time into, and I'm looking forward to possible upcoming shows ... I'm excited to get back to Japan, Europe and S. America and all the other beautiful places in the world I haven't had the opportunity to visit in a long time. When the time comes, I will be sure to pop up again here to give you guys any news I have before it comes out anywhere else...thanks again for your loyalty and interest. I hope you will enjoy the new stuff, even if it isn't the Ju Ju Hounds reunion we would all like to see happen. Don't worry though, I haven't yet lost hope altogether although I do know Chalo is quite happy with Social Distortion...hey, stranger things have happened...that's for sure...keep the faith.

Oh, I was surprised to see all of the negative comments about the book by Jake Brown "Dust n Bones...bla bla" Believe me, had I known how it was to come out in the end I would never have granted the interview...there's just no way to determine what the guy was going to do at the time...I tried as best I could to be careful and the guy promised me that it would be a quality product and would not be any kind of tabloid gossip type of publication...I was concerned about how Izzy would react as well, and tried very hard not to address any personal topics or to put the author in a position to slam him in any way. I was assured many times that this was going to be a book that was going to be accurate and informative and as I know Izzy would never put anything out there himself, I believed that it would have been a great source of information for his true fans around the world. Alas, this appears to not be the case and it would seem as though it was just another moneymaking opportunity and another example of shloc journalism. You can be sure I will be more careful and not make the same mistake in the future...and I'm sorry that the thing was so disappointing to the real fans. Its a shame really because it could have been really cool had it been done right.

However, in all fairness I haven't yet read the book myself...I'm waiting right now for my copy to arrive (I had to buy my own copy from Amazon...which says a lot about the publisher in itself) so I'll try and reserve any further comments I have until after I've read it for myself...but for now I trust you guys' opinions, for if there's anyone who knows it would definitely be you guys...
OK! bye for now...I promise to be back with any cool news in the future.
Jimmy "Two Fingers" Ashhurst'


- I cant believe he had to buy a copy for himself. That sucks.

Relevant Links:
www.beenafix.com
www.izzy.34sp.com


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: nyd on June 13, 2005, 12:45:42 PM
I liked this quote from Jimmy regards a Ju Ju Re-Union:

"I haven't yet lost hope altogether although I do know Chalo is quite happy with Social Distortion...hey, stranger things have happened...that's for sure...keep the faith."

Hell yeah! Ju Ju's can save rock n roll from its shitty state!!


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 13, 2005, 12:52:25 PM
From Jimmy Ashhurst (former Ju Ju Hound):

However, in all fairness I haven't yet read the book myself...I'm waiting right now for my copy to arrive (I had to buy my own copy from Amazon...which says a lot about the publisher in itself) so I'll try and reserve any further comments I have until after I've read it for myself...but for now I trust you guys' opinions, for if there's anyone who knows it would definitely be you guys...
OK! bye for now...I promise to be back with any cool news in the future.
Jimmy "Two Fingers" Ashhurst'

@ Two Fingers:
Don't hold your breath waiting for your copy to arrive?because THE BOOK DOESN'T EXIST!!!? :crying:


P.S. @ the board: ?I am NOT in any way insinuating that Mr. Ashhurst isn't being totally honest and genuine here. ?I think he's just responding to the negative things he's heard about something that, in good faith, he took part in. ?I think he got scammed just like the rest of us.? :-\


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: nyd on June 13, 2005, 01:40:36 PM
Yeh I think he is genuinely sorry for ever agreeing to the interview, and he did it with honest intentions. He knows that us Izzy fans are strapped for information as it is. Who better to give us information than the band members if Izzy wont  ;D

For those who havent seen the Izzy music videos for Shuffle It All and Train Tracks they are online now at:

www.izzy.34sp.com

Sorry for the crap quality, I didnt rip them. I will rip them myself one day and make them good quality.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: nyd on June 14, 2005, 02:12:15 PM
Scamming somone out of money is one thing, but scamming Izzys fans out of money is a totally fucking not cool.

Using whois lookup it says blackmarketpublishing.com was registered by Jake Brown. Its not even a real fucking company by the looks of it. Whois gives an alternative email address to the two listed on the site so I ran a search for that on Google. One result found, it is a post he made on a message board:

Versailles Records is seeking a camera man or woman with their own DV Digital Video Camera for one day's work on Thursday October 30, set in a recording studio in Los Angeles, CA documenting the recording of 2 platinum recording artists as part of a DVD on the making of a major tribute record set for release nationally through Ventura Distribution in the summer of 2004. Camera person CAN BE film student, or free lance film maker. An 8 hour day is required. You will be given credit on the DVD, which will air on a major cable network as part of its release promotion, and will be part of a national advertising campaign to accompany the record's release. Please contact Jake Brown at (615) 833-1779 or via email at Speedynumb@aol.com if you are available. Pay negotiable based upon experience, must have own DV digital video camera or access to one. Please reply ASAP if interested

--
Both the email address and phone number are different.  :)


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: James_Ramone on August 07, 2005, 12:15:21 PM
any more info on this book??


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Sweet s on March 17, 2006, 05:42:15 AM
When's this book coming out is there a date yet? I ordered my before christmas And there is still no sign of it :rant: :smoking: :beer:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: IzzyDutch on March 17, 2006, 05:55:22 AM
Hey Louise, it already came out.. and it was a scam. Only a handful of people got copies, the rest didn't got anything and won't get it either. From memory I think it's discontinued at Amazon.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: Sweet s on March 17, 2006, 06:00:26 AM
Thanks :),I wondered if it was ,Oh well never mind at least I didn't lose any money from it :yes:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: MarioGunner on April 16, 2006, 07:18:22 PM
they still offer it on amazon but with all this information, i?m definitely not buying it thanx  : ok:


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: erose on February 07, 2007, 04:44:19 PM
Is this thing out or what?

They might be waiting for cd to drop first. i guess that would be a better time, comercially, for a book about izzy...


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: gnrfanxxx on February 07, 2007, 05:30:49 PM
holy shit, its been 3 years and ppl still havent gotten copies! The author shall now go down in history as a horribles author in my book. dont order anymore copies!


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: IzzyDutch on February 08, 2007, 02:00:21 AM
Have you even read this whole topic? It was a scam, only a handfull copies got out and the author dissappeared. It ain't available.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: bringbackadler on February 14, 2007, 09:36:44 PM
While surfing this evening, I came across this book that I think came out in 2005. I was never aware of this book existing.

Has anyone here read this ? Is it worth the read, or just a bunch of recycled info that the majority of "fans" already know ?




/bringbackadler


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: evergreen_layne on February 14, 2007, 09:47:24 PM
I'm pretty sure it was "unauthorized" and not that good anyway.  I'd be interested to read a review from someone who's read it though.


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: jarmo on February 14, 2007, 10:02:47 PM
While surfing this evening, I came across this book that I think came out in 2005. I was never aware of this book existing.

Has anyone here read this ? Is it worth the read, or just a bunch of recycled info that the majority of "fans" already know ?




/bringbackadler


#1 - Search

#2 - Izzy is an ex-Gunner, so look in the right section for the information.

#3 - The publisher took pre-orders, but never shipped any books to those who ordered.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Dust N' Bones: The Untold Story of Izzy Stradlin
Post by: IzzyDutch on February 15, 2007, 09:45:20 AM
Here's the deal about the book once and for all:

The author interviewed several people mentioned here http://www.blackmarketpublishing.com/

The only chapters interesting are the interviews with Eddie Asworth (JJH producer) and Jimmy Ashurst.

Only a handfull of copies where released, for the rest it's been scratched and we found out the author had more of these type of 'companies' and basically was a scammer. And after someone from the Izzy board reviewed it on the forum (they actually used some pics on the book that she scanned) saying it was really really bad, lot's of spelling errors, bad pictures of scans the Izzy forum fans had actually scanned etc. the author registered there and called us a bunch of trekkies  blah blah and threatened to sue us if we badmouthed it again. The book is basically really bad. And Izzy did not agree with this bio, he wanted to stop it and he had asked his suroundings including Steven Adler to not participate in any interviews. Hell the author didn't even spell his real name right. Jimmy Ashurst actually later apoligized on the Izzy forum that if he had known about this he wouldn't have participated in it. He said he had to order his own copy cause he didn't even get one of the author..

So there you have it, it's a really bad written book that's never really released and basically was a scam.