Trent tells Finck "F*ck you"

[mr_yoshimaroka]

http://theninhotline.net/archives/articles/manager/display_article.php?id=66


Here's the G&R mention:

"There have been important members like keyboardist Charlie Clouser, drummer Chris Vrenna, who Reznor had a falling out with in 1997, and guitarist Robin Finck, who started in the band after The Downward Spiral.

Now though, he's openly scathing of Finck: "Robin Finck [was] getting paid loads of money to hang out with Axl Rose and his house was getting paid for. You know what, [expletive] you," he spews. "

[the dirt]

Wasn't Chris Vrenna involved with GNR at some point, or is it only my imagination?

[Falcon]

Beyond the Finck mention, it's a great article.

Thanks for posting.

[blasphemer]

Reznor is a tool.   my point being who cares what he says

[jgfnsr]

With all due respect to Reznor, he should realize Finck working with Axl meant that Robin saw something worthwhile in what Axl was doing.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

With all due respect to Reznor, he should realize Finck working with Axl meant that Robin saw something worthwhile in what Axl was doing.

Its really simple. Robin helped write CD and is apart of the band, while in NIN he just plays live the stuff that Trent wrote. Trent wouldnt let anyone but him write for NIN.

If Robin really sucked as much as some of you claim on this board, you really think  Trent would be this mad that Robin wouldnt tour with him?

[jgfnsr]

If Robin really sucked as much as some of you claim on this board, you really think? Trent would be this mad that Robin wouldnt tour with him?

For the record, as far as his style is concerned, I think Robin kicks ass. 

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Robin brings a lot more to GNR than he gets credit for.

Finck weighing his options, GNR is a better setup than NIN since he can be a collaborator, not just a live guy playing Trent`s stuff.

[RichardNixon]

In '91, Reznor said in an interview that Axl was a "Friend" of his, and had asked him to open some shows. Reznor also said once that he "respects" Axl. Although he did make some kinda funny jabs, but Trent will be Trent. And for the record, I would love Axl and Reznor to do a song together, that'd be sweet.

[Walapino]

I read not long ago an interview with Roger Waters and Trent. While Trent knew everything about Pink Floyd, Roger didnt know what the hell was NIN. It was very funny.

[Eternal Flaming Sword of Death...]

Trent seems pretty upset, wonder why he didn't feel comfortable allowing Robin in the studio with him?

I mean, NIN in good, but if he is that upset at Finck, have him record with you...I mean Axl must have seen something

I really am anxious to hear Fincks style, I think it will be really something special...

[damien24]

being paid to hang with trent reznor at his house... or being paid to hang out with axl rose at his house-   some people have all the hard decisions.

[Buddha_Master]

You know, the shit talking about Reznor is fuckin sad. Reznor a "tool?" Obviously one doesn't know what the fuck a "tool" represents if you are using it to describe Reznor. Reznor continues to push the technological envelope while others rest on their past accomplishments.

You don't like NIN music? Cool. Each to his own. But downplaying the mark NIN has made, and continues to make, makes you a "tool." With Teeth represents one of the first albums to be recorded in a 5.1 and will sound so fucking good compared to anything else that has ever come before it. Its not remastered or remixed in 5.1 (and I am talking about the dual disc that will contain With Teeeth in 5.1, on the DVD side), it was recorded in 5.1. If any of you don't like it, I feel sorry for you.

There is always another side to the coin, and if Reznor felt betrayed or burned or whatever, that is his side of it. He made Finck who he is, and whatever contributions he now makes with GNR, just shut your traps about Trent and just say thank you.

Remember this kids ( here comes a Star Wars quote), "Who is more the fool? The fool or the fool who follows him?"

What does it say about Axl if you think Trent is a "Tool" or whatever? NIN has released very inspiring music creatively. It inspired and kicks my ass, and moves me. And if you know a thing about Axl, you know how moved Axl was by NIN.

NIN is cool, and Reznor is what he is. If you don't think he is cool now, then you don't think he ever was. He hasnt changed to try to be cool with whatever the current trend is that dates him and his music to that time. And You have to at least appreciate and respect what Reznor is doing musically.

[Darth Jenny]

Reznor is a fucking genius, and all I understand is that he didn't like loosing a GREAT musician. It's understandable. NIN is one helluva band. And like the person above said, NIN is among Axl's favourites bands 

[twitcher]

You know, the shit talking about Reznor is fuckin sad. Reznor a "tool?" Obviously one doesn't know what the fuck a "tool" represents if you are using it to describe Reznor. Reznor continues to push the technological envelope while others rest on their past accomplishments.

You don't like NIN music? Cool. Each to his own. But downplaying the mark NIN has made, and continues to make, makes you a "tool." With Teeth represents one of the first albums to be recorded in a 5.1 and will sound so fucking good compared to anything else that has ever come before it. Its not remastered or remixed in 5.1 (and I am talking about the dual disc that will contain With Teeeth in 5.1, on the DVD side), it was recorded in 5.1. If any of you don't like it, I feel sorry for you.

There is always another side to the coin, and if Reznor felt betrayed or burned or whatever, that is his side of it. He made Finck who he is, and whatever contributions he now makes with GNR, just shut your traps about Trent and just say thank you.

Remember this kids ( here comes a Star Wars quote), "Who is more the fool? The fool or the fool who follows him?"

What does it say about Axl if you think Trent is a "Tool" or whatever? NIN has released very inspiring music creatively. It inspired and kicks my ass, and moves me. And if you know a thing about Axl, you know how moved Axl was by NIN.

NIN is cool, and Reznor is what he is. If you don't think he is cool now, then you don't think he ever was. He hasnt changed to try to be cool with whatever the current trend is that dates him and his music to that time. And You have to at least appreciate and respect what Reznor is doing musically.

too busy to right full reply..here's a summary 

Trent can be a tool. Yes, "Reznor continues to push the technological envelope while others rest on their past accomplishments" but that doesn't mean he's not a tool on a personal level. I'm being a Devil's Advocate here, I'm not saying he is a tool, but that his musical acomplishments have no bearing on his toolness.

And Trent does appear to fall out with a heck of a lot of friends...

We don't know what happened between the two of them so can only guess that it's because Robin decided to stay with GnR and not tour with Trent. I think many here would love to see Robin tour with NIN again but can understand his desire to stick with GnR, where he is a full member of a band and not just playing Trent's music. That decision which Robin made doesn't justify Trent's dissing of Robin, both in this article and on his website when he talked about pissing in Robin's shoes. It just smacks of childishness.

I agree with all you said about NIN musically but I think Trent's out of line with these comments.

(And Trent didn't make Robin - he found someone who fit into the NIN mould perfectly, and Robin benefitted from it, but so did NIN)

[D]

With all due respect to Reznor, he should realize Finck working with Axl meant that Robin saw something worthwhile in what Axl was doing.

of course he saw something worthwhile in Axl

where else can u get your mortgaged paid and not have to do a fuckin thing?

greatest job in the world right there, get paid to do a whole lot of nothing.

[Mikkamakka]

With all due respect to Reznor, he should realize Finck working with Axl meant that Robin saw something worthwhile in what Axl was doing.

of course he saw something worthwhile in Axl

where else can u get your mortgaged paid and not have to do a fuckin thing?

greatest job in the world right there, get paid to do a whole lot of nothing.

Although I don't like Finck's playin' it's logical that he rather plays for a band in which he is involved in the writing and not only a tour musician. BTW I'm sure that Axl pays more than Trent, so the decision wasn't hard for him.

[Rhythm-n-Booze]

And Trent does appear to fall out with a heck of a lot of friends...

That can also be said about a certain member of Guns n' Roses...

[noonespecial]

True....

[madagas]

1. How does anyone know what Robin has brought to Gnr? He really didn't even contribute much to Oh My God. 2. In the time span the new band has been together, Reznor released The Fragile, toured extensively, released a live album and dvd, and now has a new album and tour. If Reznor is a recluse then Rose has just simply disappeared altogether. Gnr has been completely inactive for going on 3 years! 3. Robin probably could have done this new NIN tour and then had time to get back with Gnr before Chinese is released. There is absolutely no indication that Axl is planning on doing anything in the near future. 4. It is obvious Finck stayed with Gnr because of money. Trent is just calling it like he sees it. All the work Finck has done or not done for Axl may never even see the light of day. It is a sad thought but it is certainly a possibility. ps I'm a little aggravated by all this right now. Just came back from buying With Teeth and am slightly jealous of fans whose favorite artists actually release records.