Why do you admire Axl Rose? EVERYONE ANSWER

[DRUNK]

I want only positive answers for this.  Forget about the album being delayed and all the  other unfortunate drama that has gone on for the last few years.  I want you to write in detail about why you admire Axl Rose.  Explain what first made you a fan.  Explain why you're still waiting for him.  Explain why you think he can or can't pull this off.


Let's hear it all.  Thanks.

[younggunner]

if i go in detail i would have a muti pg repsons...to keep it short:

the "realness", mystery, the mystique, the passion, the attitude,desire,the sarcasim, the comedy, what you see what you get type thing, idk and a whole bunch of other things.

plain and simple. he is the the best frontman around. without him i would be somewhat of a different person. 4 years have gone and he has had an influence on my life. he hasnt saved my life or anything but he has played a role in me. how big or small i have no clue.

thanks axl keep up the great work....and prove them mofos all wrong...save us milkboy

[DRUNK]

younggunner, I know you can write more than that, and I expect you to do so.  I'm going to be showing this to some people and I want it to make an impact.  If anyone can make this thread good, it's you.  So let's hear it

[Scree]

I'm not sure I admire him (I don't think I have any "heros".. they are after all just humans). What first got me into GnR was the first time I heard It's So Easy, my uncle bought the single in '87 and when I heard Axl shout the words "FUCK OFF" it was "Cool.. he said fuck" (bear in mind I was 10/11 years old at the time). Then a while later he (my uncle) bought AFD.

I can't say I'm waiting for Axl so much as waiting for new music. The way GH is up on the charts is why I think the next album will be able to sell as many, if not more. Tho this is all down to timing. If the album is too "late", it could work well to the negative.

[alwaysoutparading]

he's real. yeah he has problems, but he's not trying to hide that. he's not trying to exlpoit it either. he's confused. he's a real person and one of the only real people in the music industry today. no one is pushing his buttons (imo). he's the last great rock star the world has known. i'll always admire him for the fact that he got out of bumfuck indiana and pursued his dream and made it. he didn't just make it because of luck or the other people around him or anything. he's fucking amazing.

[HoldenCaulfield]

I admire the man for several reasons, but most of all because of his musical genius and his passion for what he does. Not many people will go through all the shit he has.

[nesquick]

I think Axl is a real musical genius. every time I listen to November Rain I'm blown away. Only a genius could reach the musical perfection like that. This is very impressive. A PIECE OF ART.
His voice is (was?) unique. si row, so angry, so true! very "rock n' roll". I remember back in the days in Paris, around 1992, Axl Rose as THE icon of every teenager with Slash in Paris. Everybody wanted to be Axl Rose with his red bandana. The success was SO BIG that it kicked everybody's ass.
However I have never understood how that guy could write fantastic songs like November Rain or Estranged, an then write horrible songs like "my world". How is it possible? is it the same guy? It's day and night both. I love him but sometimes I find that guy very strange. It's part of his madness.

[Mattgnr]

 Attitude and self belief

[anarchy]

If he doesn't like something he just says "fuck it".

[insupportofaxl]

I admire Axl Rose for these reasons:


At points in our lives, we all encounter various types of hardships, heartache, sorrow, pain, confusion, etc.

Axl Rose is the ONLY musician who can touch us and relate to us by his gift of voice and song.

For this reason, we all feel that Axl understands us and indirectly, is our friend.

He is truly the greatest frontman of all time and no one can take that away from him.

Axl Rose = real =  

 

[Mattman]

The first thing that draws you to Axl is his voice.  For me, he's simply the best rock 'n' roll singer ever.  He's able to express anger, happiness, sadness, fear, humour, and basically any emotion in a direct manner that goes straight to your heart.  But the coolest thing about it is simply the fact that he sounds like nobody else.  To this day, nobody has even been able to copy Axl Rose's voice.  It's a squawking scream that makes you wonder how he still has vocal cords.  For anybody to have vocal power like that is simply amazing.  In "Welcome to the Jungle", where he sings, "you're gonna DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"...that's just unbeatable.  It doesn't get any better than that.

Besides that, Axl looked cool doing it, which to me is almost as important.  He gave you the impression of a tough, volatile street rocker that could kick your ass, but also of a tortured artist sitting at the piano making beautiful music.  He's got cool hair, whether it's straight or puffed up in that crazy WTTJ fashion.  Speaking of which, I love the way Axl dresses.  I mean, some people think that his dress sense was atrocious, but I think the exact opposite.  Bandanas, leather, short spandex pants, high top sneakers, police hats, aviator sunglasses, KILTS...no matter what he was wearing, he made it look incredibly cool.

Axl's personality appeals to me.  A lot of people think he's a jerk.  Others think he's a great guy.  I don't know.  All I know is that he was a volatile package of anger, shyness, weirdness, and humour....a tortured artist, but one that made you feel great when he made beautiful music.  Axl does what he wants, says what he wants, and is the person he wants to be...a total original.  If you don't like that, go and listen to some Staind, suckass.  Axl gave the impression that he was his own person, and for that I have to admire him.  People think he's racist, sexist, whatever, but they don't understand the subtleties in his lyrics.  And even if he was misogynist, I don't give a shit.  That was him; he didn't try and hide it from you.  He's one of my ultimate heroes, just because he's such an antihero.

Mind you, when I think of AXL ROSE, the rock god, I think of him up to about 1993 or so, back when Guns N' Roses were still the biggest rock 'n' roll band in the world.  I can identify with Axl as a young man, which is where I'm at right now.  Axl was as an angry young guy, not very popular in school, who went out to become a rock 'n' roll star and achieved that beyond his wildest dreams.  He represents to me the epitome of a loser becoming a rock god, which is my ultimate dream.

For these reasons, I tend to think that after Slash left the band, that was about the time when the original Axl Rose - the one I admire so much today - effectively died, as he morphed into a middle-aged, eyebrowless, eccentric former rock star, getting plastic surgery and hair extensions, becoming the only original member of a band that is now going nowhere slowly.  I can't identify with a 40-year-old guy in hair extensions and oversized sports jerseys who plays with the world's greatest Appetite For Destruction cover band.  The old Guns N' Roses gave you the impression that they were a gang, a group of friends ready to take on the world, with Axl as its rough-and-tumble leader.  The new Guns N' Roses seems to me like the last gasp of an aging superstar.

For that reason, although I'm interested in Chinese Democracy and hope that Axl can rule the music world again, just because he's such an amazing talent, it doesn't have the relevance to me that it would if he were leading the original lineup.  Axl as he is today, to me, represents a sad end to a tortured young man, as he devolves into rock's own Howard Hughes.  Ultimately, it will be the music that decides whether Axl can once again become the rock 'n' roll god he once was.  Because in the end, regardless of what he looks like or the way he acts, it is The Voice that makes me love Axl Rose.   And if he can still scream like a banshee (or even wail) while singing great songs, I'm with him all the way.

ROCK ON, AXL.  

[Miz]

His shorts.

[ClintroN]

he's rock n' rolls last hope!

[Jessica]

1) his singing..His voice gave me shivers and i was always amazed by his vocal range.
2) his stage energy
3) his beautiful hair color
4) speaking out about issues that were still a taboo back then. He helped.

[LittleFly]

Wowwy good question.  

Why I admire Axl so much.  When I was younger, I love the way he looked.  He could express such raw feeling with just one look...and it translated through whatever medium it was, photo, film...whatever.

As I got older, I respected the music.  As a young adult, I had problems expressing myself.  Here was a guy telling the world his deepest feelings through beautiful music.  It blew me away (and still does)  Just thinking how much courage it takes to bare all like that.....unbelievable.

And as I've grown, where I am now.  I respect the man because he has done what he has to so that he can keep the name of the band alive and himself alive.  There had to have been drugs and shit everywhere when the band was touring.  People that have been thrown to superstardom often turn to drugs and alcohol because of the pain that it entails.  Axl has never had one of those trips to a detox, he's done it through his music.

I have the utmost respect for him.  He is a very private person, and he seems to choose very carefully when and how he expresses himself.   He's been through massive amounts of shit with the media and the industry, so he's very careful.  

Damn, I can't express the reasons why, everything I've written looks so paltry, not quite right.  

He's a giant, yet he's just a man.  He's a person who commands respect, and at the very bottom of it his a human being.  He has his problems and he has been under the microscope for the better part of his life.  

I've wanted to meet him since I was very young, but the reasons have changed since then.  Now I just want to thank him for such wonderful music.  And no, I don't want to meet him so I can have sex with him....he is quite capable of chosing the women he wants I think, and I doubt I would be one of them  

I think that he has an iron will, he will have what he wants.  If it takes another 10 yrs, he will have it.  He is a very intelligent man, so he knows what he has to do.  He is a one of a kind man and I admire and respect that  

Eh...still doesn't quite fit it, but it'll do  

Oh yeah, and his voice, both speaking and singing, sends shivers of pure pleasure up my spine

[neko]

yes cool question .

i admire him for his voice  , i dont know how to tell it but he does like a cool change of voice when he is singing , thats beautiful.

other thing is his precense in the stage , he looks like a totaly normal guy if you see it in an interview or something , but if you see it in a concert you know he is the best rock star of all time .

his songs , he has one of the best songs i have heard , among those estranged.

when i was a kid i used to saw him in mtv here in mexico , i really like Axl voice and i was amaze watching the videos, then they stop playing them , i didnt knew anything and i didnt even remember Axl very much , then one day like 6 years after  i heard Dont cry and watched the video and it was like remembering those days , it was like this is the man , this is a rock star , i cant explain the feeling .

what im wating now its that that rock star returns and gets to be big again , im really looking forward to see if he can do it , im 21 years , but i think it doesnt matter if you are 20 ,40 or 60 , if you are a talented guy you are one for ever , so i know if Axl wants he can be big again.

[NickNasty]

"November Rain" and "Estranged."
That explains everything  

[smishkey]

I'm not sure that admire is really the right word here.  In the summer of '91 it wouldn't been, now it's more fascination than admiration.
  Obviously the music he created is what really has stood the test of time.  Why else would I still be here?(meaning a gnr board, not ya know, the planet)
  He's gutsy.  He says whats on his mind no matter how fucked up it may be.  I miss his interviews.  I used to read them over and over again when I was a kid.
  He's totally whacked, and whacked out people are always interesting.

[Annie]

 :DI have been in love with Axl ever since I saw the NOVEMBER RAIN video for the very first time.  Words can't really describe why I admire Axl. Back in 1986 I met the most extraordinary little boy who was named Andrew. He had been diagnosed with leukemia and he came to UW Hospital for a bone marrow transplant. Even though he was only 4 years old Andrew was the most extraordinary person whom I have ever met. He died in 1987 and he really wanted to be a rock star. had he lived I know in my heart that he would have liked to have grown up to be like Axl Rose.  I wrote a screenplay about this for TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL, but unfortunatley the show was cancelled last year.

[K-Rock]

I'll keep it real simple:

His voice....his performance and energy on stage.

I could care less about all his attitude and his drama.......it's a fucking soap opera and I don't like soap operas or TV for that matter.

IMO, he's the greatest singer that ever lived.

[Doc Emmett Brown]

DRUNK, I think the question should be more like:  Why are you obsessed with Axl Rose?  Everyone answer.  

Seriously, everytime I think I'm gonna throw in the towel, I listen to some GNR or see a pic of him from the old days, and my obsession is renewed!  

There's plenty of good frontmen out there, but they're missing this un-definable quality that Axl once possessed (I hope he still has it).  It's his entire persona including his voice, his energy, and his inexplicable charisma.

Nobody does black leather and bandana the way he does.    

He defines rock n' roll.

[Will]

That's a pretty tough question...like someone said I would need pages to go thru that into details but...I think the main thing to me is just one word: "energy".
When I watch videos of old/ new line-up I'm always impressed about how much energy he has on stage, that's really amazing. I had the chance to see the band live in 2002 in Belgium and I was completely blown away by the performance. There is no word to describe this. I've been a fan since 1991 and never had the chance to see the band in concert...when I saw them live in 2002 it was so intense I felt like I was just a part of a huge crowd only here for one guy, one band.
I also admire the character, charisma, the passion, the mystery, and obviously the songwriting skills and the voice. I admire the guy for a lot of reasons, and I would't have kept my site up to date since 1999 if I didn't believe in him and in his music.

I also admire the fact that he was able to keep the band's new music exclusive and unheard for more than ten years. With modern technology and internet leaks, to me that's pretty amazing.

[DEAD HORSE]

BECAUSE HE IS EVERUTHING IN ONE PERSON!! I STILL CANT BELIVE AXL WAS BORN ON EARTH!  

[matt88]

I admire him because he speaks his mind and he explains his songs with depth and understanding. No one has ever created music as complex and with passion as axl.

[WagMyDog]

He makes me wanna be a better person!






Hmm ...




But seriously ... obsession is the perfect word (especially after reading the majority of posts here .. seriously you guys sometimes make me think you're like that chick in "A Slipping Down Life" ... ).

No offense .. but I really hope you people are joking when you say stuff like ... "because he is everything in one person"

Nobody knows Axl ... and the only healthy admiration you could have for him would have to be like what K-Rock has ...

Axl's music is really all that I admire ... I like the persona he portrayed from AFD thru UYI .... thought that was cool ...

And I'm looking forward to see how he performs CD if he ever does....


P.S.: I don't wanna have to post again, so I'll apologise if I stepped on any toes here, just promise me you'll take what I'm saying seriously ...

(BTW, didn't some of you argue feverishly that nobody really knows Axl, when everyone was complaining about his choice of lyrics [on OIAM] and the whole wife-beating thing ?)

[MrBen]

Because part of me wishes that I could be him, but I know I never can.... bummer

He writes better songs than anyone else.

He sings better than anyone else.

He looks cooler (sometimes) than anyone else.

He has balls, like no other front main around.

He's always the underdog, always fighting against the mases.

He has a vision of GNR, to make it better, to push the boundries, A vision that I share.

[metallex78]

Although my admiration for Axl Rose is dwindling due to his lack of communication with his fanbase, I can still go back and listen to almost any track off any of the albums and his raw emotion that comes across in his singing just gets me everytime.

It's that singing that separated GN'R from all of the hair-band fluff of the 80's, and it really irks me when people lump GN'R in with the hair-metal tag, when they were and are so much more than that.

Also the fact that Estranged has gotten me through many many tough times in my life, I will forever be grateful to the guy and support him 100% if and whenever he decides to put out some new music for us.

[AxlFink]

Axl Rose is Guns n Roses.  He always was.  That's what I love about him.  He's not just a Rock star.  He's an artist.  He's a poet.    You can look at him and tell he's a kind person.  You can also see the rage he lives with.  It seems that he's on a lifelong journey to be happy and people always end up fucking it up for him like  

Asshole Guitarists, Asshole Media, Asshole Fans who feel he owes something to them.... like a release date...... Asshole fans that feel  
he's taking too long.... asshole record companies who put out piece of shit Greatest Hits CDs,asshole former band members talkin shit  

I think his struggles are easy for people like myself who are struggling through life to relate to.  

Like I said, He's more than a Rock Star.  That's why the first band became the greatest band in the world.  That's also why the first band broke up.  He's above Snakepit and Velvet Revolver.  He is Guns n Roses.

[AxlFink]

to add 1 more thing-  

I went to see the House of Blues show in Vegas.  The rolled out the piano for the Blues.  There were sound problems and it didnt work.  Axl then made some jokes and talked to the crowd.  He really showed everyone there who he really is.  He was very funny.  Very warm.  The crowd ended up chanting Welcome back welcome back.  The look on his face showed that he is far from the asshole people think he is.  He was kinda turning red with shyness - He's become a very important part of the lives off all his fans and to see the connection he had with his audience was amazing.

[Christos AG]

Because the lyrics to Estranged, a song he wrote, saved me from suicide back in 2001.

[Rebecca Duff Rose]

Axl Rose- An amazing entertainer/performer/singer/writer!

His songs cure my sadness/emptiness in life! {AxlGreece you ain't the only one!  }

I look up to him! 15 Year olds these days look up to bloody crappy pop artists!
Me- Axl Rose which most teens don't know who he is {especially in the pop world!}

You see he had a bad childhood- me too!
And he grew up to achieve what he wanted to be- a ROCKSTAR!
{me too!  } honestly though he did it!
so he gives me hope! which i honestly need!
And i'm sooooooooooo proud of him, like we all are!

He keeps me going with the help of lyrics such as Don't Cry, November Rain, Estranged, Coma and to completely cheer me up and pick my feet up... SCOM!

He is funny, charming, etc. with so much power on stage!
he sings and stands up to what he believes in!
He is a real person, and has had so much shit thrown at him, he is still standing tall! We are still supporting him! Why? because we love him! Not only him, but his music he produces is fantastic!

WORDS HONESTLY CAN'T DESCRIBE WHAT GNR'S MUSIC MEANS TO ME!

He is living proof that you can achieve what you want in life, and still be who you are- to be grounded, to not be scared of people, to be strong, etc.
He loves his fans! {he almost cried when he made his comeback, loyal fans shouting "welcome back"}

He is professionally/personally amazing! I love him to bits- even though i haven't met him!

G'N'F'N'RS FOREVER!

[Naupis]

I admire his courage to sit in his house for 10 straight years and continually take pot shots from the media and fans about him, yet still not release an album and shut them up because for whatever God forsaken reason he is just not ready. It takes either alot of courage or stupidity, I just haven't decided which yet.  

[madagas]

Nice Naupis-tis true tis true. I don't "admire" Axl Rose. I simply enjoy his music/singing voice and appreciate the brutal, simplistic honesty in his lyrics/songs.  

[MadmanDan]

His unique musical skills,his looks,his attitude,and the fact that,when it comes to his music,he doesn't give a fuck about anyone,including us

[Johnnyblood]

The things that hooked me in the first place were his voice, his live performing ability, his mistakes, and his attitude. But as time passes with little or no contact from him, I can't really say I admire him. It would be like admiring the brother who left the family and you never heard from again. What's to admire? He's sort of a nobody right now, because he hasn't made himself available. If he puts this record out and it's half as good as the amount of time to make it would suggest, then my admiration will triple what it once was. But until then...

[ckgent]

Axl rose!!!!!!!!!

Admiration?

Thats pretty tough to say the least.

The first thing that got me, was the way he sung on appettite. There was pure passion in the way he came across vocally. Be it the tenderness of sweet child, the agression of its so easy or the almost sarcastic tones in areas of the album, each track is done in a way that can make it relate to aspects of my personal feelings. I dont mean that i put myself in axls shoes, but it just the topics and reality of situations he writes of.

The making of Estranged is a great way of actually seeing what the guy is like. He goes on in some seriousness about his loss of love with stephanie and dyln and the confusion it is causing him. Its a very honest moment and i admire his balls for being so open, when he knows millions of people are going to see this. Despite how serious aspects of this are, he is then laughing and joking about the drowning scene, matt flipping him, going on about pissing, shitting and whatever there is to do in a wet suit.

The guys pure energy live is awsome. I saw them twice with the illusions line up and twice in 2002. I do think it has flucyuated a little, but he still rocks.

I also admire the way he tore warren beatty to shreds on live television. Who else can you think of that has done something like that in front of millions around the planet. Homefuck!!!!!!!!!

[Aunt Ger]

All of you that had positive remarks about Axl are so true. He is one amazing rocker, that is for sure. So much in the media over the years is made up to make him look like a badass, but that is far from the truth. Yes! He is a genius, a poet and so much more. My 3 year old granddaughter watches the videos of him and idolizes the man. And so do I.

[Jagged Little Pill]

I admire him because he speaks his mind no matter if people like it or not he just says what he feels, he always stands up for himself and no matter what people say he just keeps goin strong...sure he has his problems but who doesn't? its probably a real piss off when everyone is pointin out the little mistakes that you make or when anythin goes wrong with the band it's always his fault, it can really get to a person so in my opinion i think he's doin pretty damn well.

oh..and he can fuckin rock!

[Naupis]

 He always stands up for himself

Are we talking about the same Axl here? People and the media have been poking fun at him for the better part of the entire time he has been trying to get new GNR off the ground and I have yet to seem him do anything in terms of standing up for himself and showing people this is not a joke. It has been one error/miscalculation after another and frankly it is very sad. The old Axl circa 1987-94 used to be like that, but this new Axl is a shadow of he badass he used to be. I hope he has a gut-check soon and tries to recapture some of that drive and hunger he used to have

[younggunner]

People and the media have been poking fun at him for the better part of the entire time he has been trying to get new GNR off the ground and I have yet to seem him do anything in terms of standing up for himself and showing people this is not a joke.

And that is another reason why I admire axl. He could give two shits about peopels misconceptions,rumors, and theories about new gnr. Until he and the band is ready he will remain quiet holed up in the studios busting their ass in the wee hours of the night and not say a word. That to me is very admiring. So while you worry about gnr image that is soley based on rumors they work on what will either make or break them...the music


The fact that he and his band had the world by its balls from 87-94 and then he just decides to pick up and leave is balls. major balls. And with that comes consequences. He and the new lineup have been paying those consequences all of these years as peopel continue to bash this band. But it doesnt really matter because the same peopel that are bashing will be the same people in line asking for an interview if the music is a success. SO while many fans continue to put too much stock into this public image bullshit...to me its pointless.

[Naupis]

Younggunner-

I think you're in total denial about the effect of the bands Image on its marketability and potential popularity. Do you think people like any of those teeny-boppers because they are good singers and stud musicians?   I don't think so, its their image that gets everyone. America is a very superficial place and they are often not willing to look past people's exterior and look for their inner beauty. The  same is true for music. Their are plenty of bands that are pigeon holed because of the way they look and the genre of music they sing. Axl and his band would be well served to get makeovers and try and look rock and roll. He could get away with that stuff in the early 90's because the rest of the band looked as cool as they did. That is not gonna fly now with guys in goth and buckets on their head. You can continue to believe otherwise if that helps you sleep better at night, but you're incredibly naive if you think that image isn't everything. Major media outlets aren't going to put 42 year old men in jersey's with band members that have buckets on their heads and goth make-up on on their covers and whatnot. I know in your ripe old age you know better, but you need to wise up to reality. There will be too many people un-willing to look past the absurdity of their disjointed look to give them the chance they probably deserve and the new GNR supporters like those on these boards will.

[moondance_1]

I admire him for the music he has made,I can put on a GNR cd and find a song to fit any mood.I love to blast WTTJ & YCBM when i am cleaning up the house. When my b/f is out of town or we have had a disagreement i listen to Estranged,or Used to Love Her. I got into GNR in the 80's and still love 'em.  His voice is Amazing,you can always tell it is Axl and no one else!       and yes,i do like his looks too.  

[Oddy]

i admire him because the bastard can sing

It's a shame such a voice hasn't done anything with it for 10 years.

I just wonder where are the new generation of axl roses and robert plants and steven tylers and brian johnson/bon scotts?

Surely these types of voices couldnt have just disappeared.

yeah anyway..........axl's voice is amazing and almost one of a kind.......so thats wat i admire.

[AxlFink]

so aunt ger... when does it come out?

[Rachel]

Well if first fell in love with Axl when i saw a picture of Guns and Roses in one of my magazines,since then i haven't stopped loving Axl.i think he is a great preformer and also a great singer.he is the King of Rock and no other person could ever make as many people as Axl has!!!Yes he has been an annoying by delaying the album but some all this time waiting may prolong the excitment!!
Love Rach

[ccorn69]

Why do I admire Axl?

well I dont know the man personally all though I wish I did.  I have never scene him live and he has not saved my life through his lyrics, yet there is a fire in that man's eyes that traverses the TV screen.  He is a genius musically and that is what makes me admire him.  I feel his lyrics speak to me and I relate to them.  I admire him because he is the only singer who's voice has caused the hairs on the back of my neck to rise with excitement at his shrill raw powerful voice.  I admire him for being one hell of an exciting frontman (from the footage i have sceen).  Why do I admire him because he is an inspiration, if you work for something you'l get it.  he and the guys busted their ass to conquer the world in 87 and they did.  And Im sure axl is busting his ass to make Chinese Democracy perfect.  I do get annoyed that the album is never finished and constantly delayed, ive been waitng for a new album since 93.  I admire him for sticking with the GNR name and completely rebuilding the monstrousity that GNR was and his ability to tell his critics to fuck off as he did this with all of them saying shit cause SLash n Duff n the rest werent  their (just axl aint GNR, blah blah blah) cause that takes fuckin balls. I admire him cause i know that when he does to let go of CD n release it it will contain some very fuckin good music

peace  

[younggunner]

I think you're in total denial about the effect of the bands Image on its marketability and potential popularity. Do you think people like any of those teeny-boppers because they are good singers and stud musicians?   I don't think so, its their image that gets everyone. America is a very superficial place and they are often not willing to look past people's exterior and look for their inner beauty

When i said images i was talking baout the rumors and stuff not their actual look....
BUt since you brought it up, ill respond...
I agree for th emost part kids today are only concerned about images. But gnr is a rnr band not a pop act. So people who liek rock music arent really concerned about image. If they were, old gnr would not have been popular, slipnot owuld not be popular, and thousands of other bands wouldnt be popluar.

Its about the music. Rock has no image. What gives your image credibility is the music you make. SO if you make great music people arent gonna say "you know what Gnrs album Chinese democracy fukin rocks, but that guy robin looks like a freak so i wont buy it"....your sumb as hell i fyou think thats is what will happen. Poeple just want good music.

Axl and his band would be well served to get makeovers and try and look rock and roll. He could get away with that stuff in the early 90's because the rest of the band looked as cool as they did. That is not gonna fly now with guys in goth and buckets on their head. You can continue to believe otherwise if that helps you sleep better at night, but you're incredibly naive if you think that image isn't everything.

So old gnr werent laughed at in the beginning because of the way they were dressed and acted? They were my friend, big time....but you knwo how that image became "cool" and "rnr" and badass? because of the music they made. If you think otherwise your truly an idiot.

The image of this new band wont be accepted only from bitter old gnr fans who miss slash and th eold guys. The people who wont accept this band. Kids my age and peopel who do not have an angenda towards gnr will accept this band and its image because of the music. If this band delivers great music there talents and image will inspire peopel just liek th eold lineup inspired peopel to accept their look.

RNr doesnt have a rule book, set standards or images...if it does then it aint rnr.....its what you call I miss my band

Major media outlets aren't going to put 42 year old men in jersey's with band members that have buckets on their heads and goth make-up on on their covers and whatnot.

Oh really. Didnt clearchannel give gnr a tour?Didnt mtv give them the clsing spot on thier awards show? DOnt magaiznes bash this band all the time in their publications? or am i missing osmething here?

And again, your image of the band theory is pathetic. Greta music creates acceptance.

know in your ripe old age you know better, but you need to wise up to reality. There will be too many people un-willing to look past the absurdity of their disjointed look to give them the chance they probably deserve and the new GNR supporters like those on these boards will.

Im 19, not quite as old and bitter as you. Reality has shown through the years that great music allows a band to dress, act,talk and do whatever the fuck they want. Its as simple as that. Thats how we have movements and culture changes. People loved old gnr so they went from hairspray to leather, peopel loved grunges so they went from leather to flannel, peopel love rap music so they go from flannel to bling bling....If th emusic is good then a band has nothing to worry about.

People have failed to look past gnrs image because the band has yet given them the oppurtunity to. The band has yet to release an album. As a result what is there to talk about gnr other then the rumors, their new image, and the delay. The great thing about all this is that
gnr will have a chance to succeede or fail on their own material. ANd for that i do not get wrapped up ion the "gnr name and image is ruined" aregument that all of you old bitter fans keep bringing up. Because as you age theres a whole new genration behind you. Just like you were young kids getting influenced by great music, theres a whole other genreation and audience that will have the same oppurtunity....

whether CD is a masterpiece..we have to wait and see.....till then you can keep whining and telling me how axl is an asshole. but when th emusic is released thats when it counts...

[Mattman]

When i said images i was talking baout the rumors and stuff not their actual look....
BUt since you brought it up, ill respond...
I agree for th emost part kids today are only concerned about images. But gnr is a rnr band not a pop act. So people who liek rock music arent really concerned about image. If they were, old gnr would not have been popular, slipnot owuld not be popular, and thousands of other bands wouldnt be popluar.

Its about the music. Rock has no image. What gives your image credibility is the music you make. SO if you make great music people arent gonna say "you know what Gnrs album Chinese democracy fukin rocks, but that guy robin looks like a freak so i wont buy it"....your sumb as hell i fyou think thats is what will happen. Poeple just want good music.

What about KISS?  What about glam rock?  Rock has had images as much any other form of music.  Slipknot has an image; I doubt that they walk around in matching overalls and monster masks all the time.  Guns N' Roses had an image back in the 80s; it was your ultimate bad-boy rock star image, with leather, bandanas, top hats, big hair, etc.  That's an image, even if they did wear it all the time.  If you want to talk about a lack of image, look at the boring modern rock bands that look like regular Joes.  Face it...image is important in rock music too.

Oh really. Didnt clearchannel give gnr a tour?Didnt mtv give them the clsing spot on thier awards show? DOnt magaiznes bash this band all the time in their publications? or am i missing osmething here?

Yeah, but I don't remember seeing any actual pictures of the new band anywhere.  I don't think there exists one group photo of the new GN'R.  Even live photos of them together are hard to find.  I'm not saying that they won't get any attention anymore - after all, look at all the attention their doomed 2002 comeback attempt warranted - but I am saying that the new band as such isn't exactly photogenic.  Without Buckethead, they're more boring visually.  I know such things aren't as important as the music, but they are an important accessory.

Im 19, not quite as old and bitter as you. Reality has shown through the years that great music allows a band to dress, act,talk and do whatever the fuck they want. Its as simple as that. Thats how we have movements and culture changes. People loved old gnr so they went from hairspray to leather, peopel loved grunges so they went from leather to flannel, peopel love rap music so they go from flannel to bling bling....If th emusic is good then a band has nothing to worry about.

People have failed to look past gnrs image because the band has yet given them the oppurtunity to. The band has yet to release an album. As a result what is there to talk about gnr other then the rumors, their new image, and the delay. The great thing about all this is that
gnr will have a chance to succeede or fail on their own material. ANd for that i do not get wrapped up ion the "gnr name and image is ruined" aregument that all of you old bitter fans keep bringing up. Because as you age theres a whole new genration behind you. Just like you were young kids getting influenced by great music, theres a whole other genreation and audience that will have the same oppurtunity....

whether CD is a masterpiece..we have to wait and see.....till then you can keep whining and telling me how axl is an asshole. but when th emusic is released thats when it counts...

Good arguments.  I know I would never have thought wearing a kilt over short spandex pants looked cool if it weren't for the fact that Guns N' Roses make my favourite music.

[younggunner]

Face it...image is important in rock music too.

im not disputing that. But if your music is accepted by the masses you have the luxury to look the way you want and not follow any particular style.

Yeah, but I don't remember seeing any actual pictures of the new band anywhere.  I don't think there exists one group photo of the new GN'R.

They didnt have any group photos yet because they have yet to have a photo session. And you havnt seen pictures of them because the last tour didnt give them much promotion.

Without Buckethead, they're more boring visually.

I agree. Buckethead was such a vitol member of the band...musically and image wise. His absence will be hard to make up. lets see what they come up with.

[SwedeChildO'Mine]

Cause IMO, he's the most important member in the best band ever.

There's so much I like about Axl, I ain't got the time to write it all here..

Here's a few:

His vocals
His songwriting
His stage performance
His attitude

[Evolution]

the voice,the attitude,his humour,his independence when it comes to his music(although its not to  our advantage) and his charisma

[Rachel]

i admire Axl cus he can sing he heart out and still look realy really sexy on stage

[pants martin]

However I have never understood how that guy could write fantastic songs like November Rain or Estranged, an then write horrible songs like "my world". How is it possible? is it the same guy? It's day and night both. I love him but sometimes I find that guy very strange. It's part of his madness.

i dont think my worlds a shit song its different yeah but not shit
i admire the guy because he is who he wants to be not what every other fucker tells him what to be,he one of the best singer/songwriters ever he puts his all into a performance and hes only one of the few genuine rockstars outthere now

[SLCPUNK]

Great performer.

[geographicaloddity]

because underneath all the media bullshit he is a real guy who loves his family and his friends fiercely and that he has a tremendous sense of humor as well as being devoted entirely to those who care about him

[tanya]

because underneath all the media bullshit he is a real guy who loves his family and his friends fiercely and that he has a tremendous sense of humor as well as being devoted entirely to those who care about him

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how do you know all this?  if your an insider please enlighten us as to what makes MR. Rose  tick

[tanya]

I like axl rose because I used to date him and I've never gotten over it. To me,he seem so real so without a persona or a gimmick. I think if he wasn't a rock star he would dress like that anyway. And Axl rose has some irish heritage and the kilt he used to wear is a nod to his irish hertiage. that is why he used to wear it.

[Dave_Rose]

Well the reason why I love Axl is because...

He is crazy
He has amazing range on his voice
Full of enegry
And good things come to those who wait

[luciano]

HIS VOICE - It USED to be the best. No one in the world has ever had a voice as good as that.

HIS SINGING - The way he singed up till 1991 is unbeatable and unduplicable. No one, including him, will ever be able to do that again. It?s OVER.

HIS DANCING - The way he USED to dance onstage up till 1991 also is, still today, unfuckingbeatable. Nobody did best before, nobody did best after.

Well, anyway it was all over after Izzy left GNR. In 1992, Axl became unrecognizable in my opinion. It wasn?t the same person. He must have had his reasons.

His VOICE obviously deteriorated to a point of no return. Shame? Yes, but if that?s the price one has to pay to sing like he did, I think it?s so worth.

His HUMOR also changed drastically in 1992, after Izzy left. You can see he was not the same person. It?s undeniable. I don?t know why, he must have had HUGE reasons for that too.

Anyway, he was so GREAT that whatever he puts his voice on up till his dying day I?ll be willing to listen to.

[MR.BROWNSTONE]

Like someone said, I admire Axl for many reasons. He is a musical genius. I think that he is the best frontman ever. I love his songs a lot. His lyrics are the best I ever heard. Also he puts on a great live show.    

[Christine]

I admire his heart.  I also admire the lyrics of the songs he wrote which came from his heart.

[Luckyme]

I must agree with the person who mentioned his heart.Even though I never met him, I remember a few years ago there was a girl who visited him at his house with her son. If I remember correctly, he went out of his way to make sure the boy had a great time. That to me, shows me that he has a good heart. I think most people just strive on showing the dark side of him. I also admire his music, no doubt about it, that he's super talented, and one of the best frontman of all time.  

[Jessica]

I must agree with the person who mentioned his heart.Even though I never met him, I remember a few years ago there was a girl who visited him at his house with her son. If I remember correctly, he went out of his way to make sure the boy had a great time. That to me, shows me that he has a good heart. I think most people just strive on showing the dark side of him. I also admire his music, no doubt about it, that he's super talented, and one of the best frontman of all time.  

Very true..I had heard about it and it was most generous from him.

[amundsma]

I don't anymore.  I think he's weak.

[McGann]

     I admire his talent and songwriting, but that's not the big thing.
    What I really admire is his unapologetic nature, and I wish I could be more like that.  Axl Rose is concerned with what HE thinks is important, and isn't about to lower his standards for the sake of making others feel validated.  
     In this day and age, many people seem to feel that there is some kind of moral high ground to be claimed by the act of saying "I'm sorry", and these "apologies" are often couched in various qualifiers...i.e.."to those I offended" or "if anyone took offense."  These are not apologies, and they merely put the onus on those who take umbrage to an action or position.  There is no real honor in such an "apology", but many people are snowed by them, and many more gain status by issuing such meaningless offerings in the name of PR and the quest to be seen as open-minded or understanding.
     Fuck that.  Fuck it hard and fuck it till it bleeds.
     Axl Rose remains a breath of fresh air for staying true to himself and true to his vision.  No other visionaries need apply...there is no room for compromise.  And that's a good thing, albeit very rare these days, especially where public figures are concerned.
     Stay strong, Axl.

There.  Obnoxious rant over.  I feel better.

/Mike