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Title: Tracii Guns
Post by: norway on March 30, 2004, 02:46:06 AM
He who played in gnr with axl and izzy way back. (tracii GUNS and axl ROSE) hence the name.

He's the one playing guitar. Enjoy


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: norway on March 30, 2004, 02:48:21 AM
Fuck, i forgot:

http://homepage.mac.com/spollitt/STFU.mov

or: brideofdestruction.com


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Rebecca Duff Rose on April 16, 2004, 04:42:50 PM
I got L.A. Guns album Rip and Tear!
it rocks!

Tracii Guns rocks!  :-*


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Izzy on April 17, 2004, 04:51:35 AM
Tracii's guitar work with Brides of Destrution is very good, it would have been intresting to see what he could have done with GNR...but then we'd have never have heard of Slash.....


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Rebecca Duff Rose on April 17, 2004, 07:09:10 AM
Tracii's guitar work with Brides of Destrution is very good, it would have been intresting to see what he could have done with GNR...but then we'd have never have heard of Slash.....

Exactly- i choose Slash over Tracii, but yet again Tracii really does rock!


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: norway on April 26, 2004, 09:24:05 AM
I think the early gnr demos around contains tracii's work.
Here comes the brides was a solid record. I liked it : ok:


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: blues_rock_axeman on April 28, 2004, 10:31:20 AM
Tracii's guitar work with Brides of Destrution is very good, it would have been intresting to see what he could have done with GNR...but then we'd have never have heard of Slash.....

Well, Slash would have either been dead or in Poison...I'm not sure which is worse  :rofl:

We'd never have had a set of classic riffs and solos either I don't think...as guitar players go, Tracii's very good, but he stays within the realm of typical Sunset Strip guitarists...


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: norway on May 10, 2004, 06:22:38 AM
Some of the classic slash riff's is actually tracii's.
Rumoured to be i mean. Yes, he's a bandplayer. Not a single input like david gilmour(pinkfloyd guitar) slash or buckethead.

The these guys work is like, another part of the song. Like slither-solo. Madagascar. Co.Numb

Tracii melts more into the music  


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Scottyl333 on May 10, 2004, 05:07:21 PM
How bout Tracii Guns coming back to GNR.  That would be awesome.  It would never happen but it would be awesome.  I think if Gibly and Tracii came back to Guns they would get the respect they deserve.  


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Dizzy on May 10, 2004, 05:56:13 PM
How bout Tracii Guns coming back to GNR.  That would be awesome.  It would never happen but it would be awesome.  I think if Gibly and Tracii came back to Guns they would get the respect they deserve.  

:hihi:  Yeah, we all know Tracii and Gilby were instrumental in the success of Appetite for Destruction, GNR's definitive album.   :P


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: John Daniels on May 12, 2004, 04:48:43 AM
little story told by Slash..




Recently, Guns N' Roses has been the object of several tributes, more or less successful. For example, the tribute-album Appetite For Reconstruction. Have you heard it?

I have an interesting anecdote to tell you on this topic : one day, a barman in New-York told me how much he loved Guns N' Roses and asked a friend to buy Appetite for destruction for him so I could autograph it. When the friend came back, he handed me this Appetite for reconstruction that you mentioned.

I hallucinated when I took a look at the credits and realised that all the washed-up has-beens of the West Coast, the losers, the ex-somebodys were all gathered on this shitty record ! (laughs)

Even Tracii Guns plays on most of the tracks. Fuck, this album is basically the record all these guys dreamed of making one day ! So I didn't even bother listening to these covers. It can only be crap anyway. It's really fucked up. I don't feel honored or flattered whatsoever. It's all about money.







...just a Slash quote where he mentions Tracii. I guess he doesn't give much value for Tracii Guns.


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Scottyl333 on May 12, 2004, 12:47:03 PM
Used up has beens.  That doesnt sound familiar does it Slash.  That guy is more washed up then any of those guys.  He hasent done shit since leaving GNR.  His solo albums just suck.

Also, I never said Guns and Clarke contributed to AFD, even though Tracii claims he did, I just think it would be cool if those guys came back.  Both were former members of GNR and you know that Slash and company are never going to come back.  


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Dizzy on May 12, 2004, 05:31:52 PM
Tracii Guns even said that Slash was better for the band than he was.

Used up has beens.  That doesnt sound familiar does it Slash.  That guy is more washed up then any of those guys.  He hasent done shit since leaving GNR.  His solo albums just suck.

By that logic, Axl is also a used up has been, eh Scotty?  Because all those principles apply to him, except for the "solo albums" comment, because Axl hasn't released shit.


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Scottyl333 on May 12, 2004, 06:37:30 PM
I would not call Axl washed up but maybe a has been.  He hasent attempted to release anything since 1993.  If his record comes out and it bombs then I would call him a washed up has been.  I respect the fact that Axl does what he wants and doesnt care what MTV and all those other hollywood people say.  


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Booker Floyd on May 13, 2004, 11:47:30 AM
That guy is more washed up then any of those guys.  He hasent done shit since leaving GNR.  

Right on!  Slash just wishes he had a major record deal, single getting major radio play, tons of press coverage, a sold-out tour, festival headlnings, a video getting MTV play, and a high-profile album coming out... : ok:


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Freya on May 13, 2004, 08:27:21 PM
What I found weird was that BOD are touring Europe with Amen.  What a combination.  I think Casey Chaos defines "trying too hard".  


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: norway on May 14, 2004, 05:48:29 AM
The slash solo stuff had to three really good songs on the albums but that was it. It wasn't any good imo. The vr album sounds to now far more intresting than anythinh i've heard lately in the world of rock. With the exeption of the brides. The best part is slash's guitar work, the vocals are... hm well :no: But it works on set me free though

Those new songs by axl is kinda like potent stuff but you never fucking know how this stuff will sound as a studiorecording.
Bring it on soon you too ;) (axl)


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: GNR - CROATIA on May 14, 2004, 07:23:25 PM
I think all of you who say shit about SLASH are simply - sad,  to say the least!
You shouldn't call yourself GNR fans either,  cause most of the stuff why you say 'you like GNR' wasn't done by some Bucket dude or whatever their names are,  but by SLASH.
I don't think SLASH needs to wish for anything,   he is aware he is one of the best guitar players in the music history and he doesn't give damn what you or Axl think.
If you think SLASH 'wishes',  why do you like GNR then?
He was the lead guitar on all official GNR albums you have at home.
Go a head and listen to someone else who 'wishes' less.
Remember,  Bucket WISHED he was SLASH!
As for SNAKEPIT albums,   I think they are both great.
Funny,  if SLASH is such a nobody,  why does he have 5/6 of the GNR members around him from the era you guys claim to like GNR?
DUFF,  MATT,  IZZY and SLASH are friends.   Gilby played in first SNAKEPIT...
Finally,  keep in mind,   both SNAKEPIT albums are far better than any Axl record since 93!     And will,  most probably,  remain so forever...


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Dizzy on May 14, 2004, 10:46:24 PM
DUFF,  MATT,  IZZY and SLASH are friends.   Gilby played in first SNAKEPIT...

Don't forget Steven.  Slash and Izzy performed with Steven last October at the Key Club.


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: norway on May 24, 2004, 05:29:02 AM
Slash rocks but his soloalbums dosen't
Tracii did som pretty impressive work with brides of destruction
When contraband comes out we can compare and disquss the styles and work :P


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: norway on May 24, 2004, 07:05:43 AM
Tracii is cool. An icon. So is motley crue and brides of destruction
You attended brides concert?  :o


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Izzy on May 24, 2004, 08:38:56 AM
hey! I really really love Tracii Guns. I love LA Guns too

if you click on the link below my sig you can see (these ones are not too great im afraid) pics of me and Tracii guns... I had the chance to spend an afternoon with Sixx and Guns.... Tracii Guns is the coolest motherfucker i have ever met... he even hooked me up with a fucking tattoo.. (not the one on the link tho).. haha after the tat was done he slapped it and asked me "does it hurt?" haha

The afternoon i spent with those 2 guys is by far the best day ive ever had in my 28 years of life..  even when im 65 years old ill never ever forget how fucking cool those 2 guys were to me.. (i cant if i wanted i have a tattoo to prove it!) haha

He had a few things to say about Axl.. he was the nicest guy i ever met.. him and Sixx...  

Tracii went to school with Slash since he was 7 years old..

even if tracii didnt write a single note on AFD who cares coz he gave us the name... and its a bad ass name..

Tracii is one of the nicest and coolest people i have ever had the privillage to meet...

he never did anything negative to GnR or thier fans. id hope people would not bash him...  

Lucky bastard - thats sounds so cool!

Quote
Tracii went to school with Slash since he was 7 years old..

That means at one time or another Slash went to school with

Dave Kushner
Lenny Kravitz
and
Tracii Guns

Weird.....



Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: outlawaxl on May 24, 2004, 05:09:37 PM
That means at one time or another Slash went to school with

Dave Kushner
Lenny Kravitz
and
Tracii Guns

Weird.....


id love to go to that class reunion!!!


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Slashly on May 24, 2004, 08:00:37 PM
That would be awsome.
"Hey, SLash , theres been a while since we haven?t yalk?
 :hihi:


Baby SLash//


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Freya on May 24, 2004, 09:02:36 PM
Quote
He had a few things to say about Axl..

What did he say?


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Captain P?l on May 26, 2004, 04:17:25 AM
That means at one time or another Slash went to school with

Dave Kushner
Lenny Kravitz
and
Tracii Guns

Weird.....


id love to go to that class reunion!!!

i though slash wasnt into school.... after the elementry school, did he even go to more school?

Tracii are cool. i renmed my guitar after him.-.. only Tracy, so its a girls name :P


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Rebecca Duff Rose on June 12, 2004, 04:24:54 PM
Used up has beens.  That doesnt sound familiar does it Slash.  That guy is more washed up then any of those guys.  He hasent done shit since leaving GNR.  His solo albums just suck.

Also, I never said Guns and Clarke contributed to AFD, even though Tracii claims he did, I just think it would be cool if those guys came back.  Both were former members of GNR and you know that Slash and company are never going to come back.  

You better not be calling Duff!  >:(

Velvet Revolver Rock!


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Scottyl333 on June 12, 2004, 08:18:37 PM
What did he say about Axl?


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Rockin' Rose on June 12, 2004, 11:28:32 PM
I have an interesting anecdote to tell you on this topic : one day, a barman in New-York told me how much he loved Guns N' Roses and asked a friend to buy Appetite for destruction for him so I could autograph it. When the friend came back, he handed me this Appetite for reconstruction that you mentioned.

This was a funny part, just imagine slash when he got the record

Well anyway I laughed pretty hard (could also be the fact that I haven't been able to sleep lately)


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on June 22, 2004, 02:21:42 AM
Yeah I bet Slash pissed his pants. For one fact the friend of the guy at the bar is a dumbass and secondly With the old 80's bands doing covers of his guitar work.


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: norway on June 30, 2004, 05:49:55 AM
Did you like the "here comes the brides"- album?

It was more fuck you rockn'roll than anything released resnetly :peace:

Tracii plays guitar on it and it is better than vr

PS: I listen to song number two on contraband over and over again.... Don't know why


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Butch Français on July 03, 2004, 09:45:04 AM
hey! I really really love Tracii Guns. I love LA Guns too

if you click on the link below my sig you can see (these ones are not too great im afraid) pics of me and Tracii guns... I had the chance to spend an afternoon with Sixx and Guns.... Tracii Guns is the coolest motherfucker i have ever met... he even hooked me up with a fucking tattoo.. (not the one on the link tho).. haha after the tat was done he slapped it and asked me "does it hurt?" haha

The afternoon i spent with those 2 guys is by far the best day ive ever had in my 28 years of life..  even when im 65 years old ill never ever forget how fucking cool those 2 guys were to me.. (i cant if i wanted i have a tattoo to prove it!) haha

He had a few things to say about Axl.. he was the nicest guy i ever met.. him and Sixx...  

Tracii went to school with Slash since he was 7 years old..

even if tracii didnt write a single note on AFD who cares coz he gave us the name... and its a bad ass name..

Tracii is one of the nicest and coolest people i have ever had the privillage to meet...

he never did anything negative to GnR or thier fans. id hope people would not bash him...  

Lucky bastard - thats sounds so cool!

Quote
Tracii went to school with Slash since he was 7 years old..

That means at one time or another Slash went to school with

Dave Kushner
Lenny Kravitz
and
Tracii Guns

Weird.....



yeah, I think this dude named Steven went to school with them as well... : ok:


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Dizzy on July 03, 2004, 11:49:03 AM
Is Tracii currently touring with L.A. Guns?  Because I'll be seeing Dokken and L.A. Guns live next weekend.


yeah, I think this dude named Steven went to school with them as well... : ok:

Indeed, Steven Adler and Slash were high school buddies, and they also attended with Michelle Young, the subject of the song "My Michelle".


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Hammy on July 03, 2004, 12:27:40 PM
Is Tracii currently touring with L.A. Guns?  Because I'll be seeing Dokken and L.A. Guns live next weekend.

Brent Muscat of Faster Pussycat fame, Keri Kelly formely of Slash's Snakepit made up for Tracii's absence when they came to the UK several months back so since Brides are touring supporting their album i can see no reason for him to be playing with them


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Jizzo on July 03, 2004, 08:52:27 PM
Your both wrong. Tracii is out. LA Guns is Steve Riley and Phil Lewis'es band. He wont be coming back as  long as Riley is there.

Stacey Blades is the lead guitarist now. Keri and Brent just did 5 shows as a favor before the band hired Stacey.


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Izzy on July 04, 2004, 05:02:26 AM
Your both wrong. Tracii is out. LA Guns is Steve Riley and Phil Lewis'es band. He wont be coming back as  long as Riley is there.

Stacey Blades is the lead guitarist now. Keri and Brent just did 5 shows as a favor before the band hired Stacey.

How did Tracii quit his own band? ???


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Dizzy on July 04, 2004, 11:29:27 AM
So I shall be seeing L.A. Guns without Tracii Guns.  That sucks.   :(

Anyway, I never was the biggest L.A. Guns fan in the world (Dokken is the draw for me next weekend), so I am not familiar with their lineup.  How many original members are still in L.A. Guns?


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Layko on July 05, 2004, 09:40:24 PM
Is there a "Best of L.A. Guns" CD?

There should be. They've got like a few CD's, be good to put all the good songs like Cold Gin all on one CD.


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: norway on July 06, 2004, 06:21:30 AM
Tracii is in brides of destruction now. Didn't you know?


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Hammy on July 06, 2004, 03:53:04 PM
Tracii is in brides of destruction now. Didn't you know?

Yeah and im pretty sure Dizzy does to but since L.A. Guns was kinda his thing it's a bit surprising he ain't touring with them it's like Nikki Sixx plans to do a reunion tour with The Crue but he won't leave Brides either it's possible to do 2 jobs at once :yes:


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Izzy on July 06, 2004, 04:03:11 PM
All u LA Guns fans out there - is there a best of kickin' about - Brides of Destruction has made me a Tracii fan and i need to add a bit more of his efforts to my collection


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Acquiesce on July 06, 2004, 04:19:55 PM
All u LA Guns fans out there - is there a best of kickin' about - Brides of Destruction has made me a Tracii fan and i need to add a bit more of his efforts to my collection

Yeah, there is one called Ultimate L.A. Guns.


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Dizzy on July 06, 2004, 05:42:52 PM
Yeah and im pretty sure Dizzy does to but since L.A. Guns was kinda his thing it's a bit surprising he ain't touring with them it's like Nikki Sixx plans to do a reunion tour with The Crue but he won't leave Brides either it's possible to do 2 jobs at once :yes:

Yes, that was exactly my reasoning.  I thought maybe Tracii had returned to the fold to tour with them, plus I didn't picture L.A. Guns touring without Tracii Guns.


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Jizzo on July 07, 2004, 01:53:27 AM
no no no, Ultimate is rerecordings from 2000. Do yourself a favor and get the originals, "La Guns" and "Cocked and Loaded". You'll be much better off


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Jizzo on July 07, 2004, 01:59:01 AM
Tracii quit his own band because he gave too much control to Phil Lewis and Steve Riley. Phil rejoined in 1999 after they went thru 3 replacement singers. Jizzy and ralph were good but Phil is what makes La Guns, La Guns. Tracii's replacement Stacey Blades is really good, I saw them back in march and they were really good.

No one currently in the band has played on all the records. Steve joined after the first record and wasnt on 2 more in the 90's. Phil was out for 5 years between 95 and 99 while 3 others were done with 3 different vocalists. Bassit Adam Hamilton played on the last 2 albums, Waking the Dead and the first album without Tracii "Rips off the Covers"

Hope this helps


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Lineker10 on July 07, 2004, 01:19:58 PM
Does anyone have and photos/pictures of Tracii in Gn'R (apart from the one flyer on the Live-Era cover) or of Axl in LA Guns?


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Izzy on July 07, 2004, 03:12:31 PM
Does anyone have and photos/pictures of Tracii in Gn'R (apart from the one flyer on the Live-Era cover) or of Axl in LA Guns?

I don't think Axl was ever in LA Guns


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Jizzo on July 07, 2004, 03:58:36 PM
He never was.

Tracii and Axl considated there bands Hollywood Rose and La Guns into GNR featuring Axl, Tracii, Izzy, Rob Gardener and I think Duff played Bass, I'm not 100% sure on that. (I don't think Duff joined after Slash and Steven did as the BTM leads you to believe)


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Lineker10 on July 08, 2004, 06:56:13 PM
Does anyone have and photos/pictures of Tracii in Gn'R (apart from the one flyer on the Live-Era cover) or of Axl in LA Guns?

I don't think Axl was ever in LA Guns

From the history section of this site -

"In 1983, Tracii Guns started LA Guns with Axl. Ole Beich played bass and Rob Gardner drums."

"January,1984 - Later Izzy leaves the band to play in London and Axl sings in LA Guns."

Its intresting to note that at one time or another London had - Nikki Sixx, Slash, Izzy and Blackie Lawless all playing in it. Also this Ole Beich guy has played in LA Guns and then later the very first brief Gn'R - yet knobody knows anything about him. Hes probably somewhere out there knowing full well he at one time played in the greatest rock band ever! :smoking:


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Jizzo on July 09, 2004, 12:49:53 AM
Never heard it that way, but I guess it must be true


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Lineker10 on July 09, 2004, 05:44:11 AM
I don't think Duff joined after Slash and Steven did as the BTM leads you to believe

No, I think that's correct, because I've read the same story elsewhere.

No, Duff joined before Slash and Steven. From the history section of this site again -

"March 26th, 1985 - A flyer for a show at The Troubadour in Los Angeles says "L.A Guns and Hollywood Rose presents the band Guns N' Roses". The band's line-up is: Axl, Izzy, Tracii Guns, Ole Beich and Rob Gardner.
The band calls themselves Guns N' Roses (they rejected the names Heads Of Amazon and AIDS).

Later Duff joins the band and the lineup looks like this:

W. Axl Rose (vocals)
Izzy Stradlin (guitar)
Tracii Guns (guitar)
Duff McKagan (bass)
Rob Gardner (drums)
 
June 6th, 1985 - Duff had some connections in Seattle and booked gigs for the band. Tracii was replaced by Slash since he didn't show up for rehearsal.
The lineup:

W. Axl Rose (vocals)
Slash (lead guitars)
Izzy Stradlin (rhythm guitar)
Duff McKagan (bass)
Steven Adler (drums)"


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: jarmo on July 09, 2004, 11:12:54 AM
The early days of GN'R are a bit of a mystery.

It's hard to figure out exact dates for things since it seems bands formed, then split, re-formed, somebody quit, was replaced, came back etc....  :hihi:

But I think Duff joined before Steven and Slash.



/jarmo


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: Jizzo on July 09, 2004, 02:06:58 PM
maybe i'll ask him next time I run in to him....If he even remembers is another story


Title: Re:Tracii Guns
Post by: norway on July 12, 2004, 06:54:48 AM
The name gunsnroes came from tracii's and axl's last name

in the articles section ;)