Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Hey I was thinking... obviously it won't be a full set list so how many songs will they perform? Like 2 and one cover or what? I hope they are able to get at least 10 minutes on the show's slot....


What do you guys think will happen?

They'll be playing 1 song, "Slither" that's it.

What is your source? How do you know? I mean that's cool that they're playing the song but I wouldn't mind a little It's So Easy in there or something different.

 ???

My source is common sense.  

Musical guests on Letterman do 1 song.

"Slither" is their current single.

Sound logical?

Yeah it does sound logical... thanks.. I figured it would be Slither, I just don't watch Letterman sorry

So I didn't know if they could get 2 songs in there or a interview before the song.

Logic... ask Axl Rose about that and not me please  ;)

Just like any other musical guest, one song bro.

It would be nice if they could belt a few more out...but oh well....

and unfortunately it will most likely be the radio version without the slow part :\ Hopefully they get enough time to do the slow part.

Anyone know when this will be shown in Australia.
I know David Letterman is shown late at night here, but are they recent episodes?

it's about a week behind in norway so i figure we'll see it on monday or tuesday next week....

is anyone of you recording this?  ;)

Hey i'ts storming but if we still have power I'll have it up on MPEG by about 1 am eastern time  It'll probably be about 40mb's but i'll put it on soulseek or something.

What about the HUB or bit torrent? It would be better to us but, hey, it should be better for you too :)

i wish they would play something else, Slither isn't their best work.

Hahah i forgot the HUB....i can definitely do that tonight........i dont' piss around with Bit Torrent though.......but yeah I'll be around in the hub....just let me know...i have cable modem too so if any of you have cable we can do a fileshare or whatever....just let me know.

show gets on the air at 11:35 pm eastern time,montreal,toronto,new york,miami.
 ah they'd be playing one song and if letterman has time maybe like a couple of questions from him,that's all.  I watch letterman almost every night,
I know. :beer:

To stray off topic a little bit.  When Audioslave made their latenight debut a year and a half ago, they also performed on Letterman.  Cochise was the only song aired, but they played an additional 3 songs after the feed was cut.  These songs were later packaged with their music videos as a DVD.  So with some luck, maybe they'll play 3 or 4 songs and we'll get a DVD out of the deal in about 6 months...

I'll be watching tonight!   8)

Right after Matlock....

Breakin' curfew at the old folks home....

 :hihi:

No arguments here, they pretty much nailed it..

Good performance... : ok:.

C'mon man! More info! :crying:

slash looked good in his black leathers, scott still looks gay with his little black vest and low cut jeans. His pose at the end of the set made me turn red, turn head, and cough.

Not a bad performance, but the vocals needed to be turned up. Not a strong song, but performed well.

It was okay, but Scott's dilly-dallying around is just mind-numbing.

Slash fucked up the solo, he pretty much butchered it.
Weilands singing leaves a lot to be disired

the vocals needed to be turned up, but the performance was fine. Nothing bad happened, nothing spectacular either. They did their job.

No major fuck ups, sounded good, looked cool..

It's definately the Scott and Slash show, as it should be..

Dave, what the fuck are you talking about?  I'm tired of your constant negativity.  I thought the performance was fucking awesome.  The best straight up rock n' roll I've seen in a while.  The song, and the image Velvet Revolver has is reminiscent of GNR in their prime.  I love that bad ass rock n' roll image, as opposed to GNR'S now circus like portrayal.  Dave before you bitch me out by saying the music is the most important thing, or for not being open minded, I for one will be buying Chinese Democracy if and when it ever comes out.  However, I was open minded and enjoyed seeing this performance and made me wish even more for the days of the real GNR in their prime.

Are you kidding me? Maybe we weren't watching the same show Dave?

Scott's vocals weren't the best, but they certainly weren't terrible. Also, Slash nailed the solo...It doesn't have to be exactly the same live as the studio version...You know that, right? ::)

Dave what the hell is your deal. All you do is look for something about VR to bitch about.  Are you jealous that Slash is out there playing his music and not cancelling the tour, like your icon Axl Does. If anyone loves GnR as much as you say you do, you would atleast respect what Slash and Duff are doing and be open to their new music

Alot to be desired Dave? Just because Axl puts his fans on hold, and cancells concerts on people like me doesnt mean you have to Bash Scott. Scott is a hell of a front man. If he wasnt STP wouldnt be as big as it was.

I love Axl, but dont Bash Scott, because Axl won't Deliver CD.

I'm getting ready to tape it here in about 4 minutes.

Dave you can't think that anybody takes you seriously man. I wonder what your deal is? Axl is perfect, album is always 'around the corner', and VR just blows. Give us all a break dude.

dave u can say whatever the hell u wanna say,but my friend the world right now belongs to VELVET REVOLVER
not to axl rose,I'm so sorry for you bud! :rofl:

 good performance tonight! :beer:

Why even bother replying to Dave?

That performance was incredible!

Yea, Slash fucked it all up... ::)

Great performance!

I didn't feel that Scott was over the top at all. MHO

I would consider wearing white biker shorts and having your package bulging out on your only Live concert release and doing leg kicks in the air and wearing leather chaps EXTREMELY OVER THE TOP!!!

but I never worried about it before why should I know

I can't get over how cool all the guys look. I mean for being close to or in their 40's, their style is still classic yet still cool. Whoever is styling them is doing a fantastic job as they have kept their look classic yet current. They just look like a rock and roll band up there and it creates an awesome vibe about them. All of the pictures we see of them just rock. I think their image is going to help endear them to the public as they haven't changed a bit, yet still look as good or better than they did 15 years ago.

Dave I kinda agree with you bro, the solo was done well, but I don't think the right effect was in it or something. I don't know a lot about guitars but the solo was the right notes but sounded like the wrong effect or tone.

Duff was perfect, Dave was fine. Matt was great... Scott's vocals were fine, the bridge to the verse to chorus was a little weak, it needed more rythm it sounded like.

Overall it was a decent performance. Slash was in all black leather, jacket and pants. The jacket was too big and he looked a little thick in the face.

Duff looked cool as hell and Scott looked weird. Did he get his hair changed? I think so. The performance was good not great. I was dissapointed. Hey it's just Letterman though... it's not supposed to be extravegant... right?

TR

Here's all we need to know about Dave and how he looks at this situation.

When Finck/Bucket screwed up Slash's solos it was that they were just improvising a bit.....when Slash does the same to material he wrote....he butchers it.
Same thing as Scott....when he has a so-so night it is he being terrible.....When Axl tries to sing songs he can't sing like he used to 15 years ago....its that his voice is much better now and somehow that is how the song was originally meant to be sung. The excuses work just fine with Dave as long as they protect Axl and his employees.


This whole thing is ridiculous....enjoy the fact they are making and playing music for people to hear. We have waited 13 years for a new Guns album of original material, enjoy the fact that at least we have SOMETHING new to listen to while we wait for the second coming of Jesus(otherwise known as the CD that will never be seen). I mean would you rather have no VR and no CD....or just no CD at all because its not coming any time soon. Just enjoy the times....Slash and them still look cool and hope people embrace them, because maybe it will actually inspire kids to start playing guitar so we don't have to listen to the shit MTV keeps feeding us.

Letterman probalby likes the way Scott dresses.

GOD DAMN IT i missed it!

FUCK FUCK FUCK

i love VR scott is androginous *spell check* but he fuckin rocks!

Sounds like a damn fine performance. Wish I would have seen it. I guess I will sooner or later. Actually fuck it, I will be seeing a whole show in less than 4 days. I think my cousin is actually recording Letterman to watch for the belowempty site.

It'll be up soon enough to watch online.

Androgeny is a cool thing sometimes me thinks.

Some of you guys act (not you D) like he looks like Boy George up there. Ever seen Mick Jagger move? Uh...same thing almost.

I think we know that some people dont need to be responded to, so simply dont respond to them... : ok:

The performance was great as expected.  All did a good job...

i am sharing it in my axl rose bar hub just in case :) :beer:

Hey, just downloaded the file from bildo (bill213) in the hub. Great performance, Slash played the solo very well (I play guitar and can tell you: he's not out of the tune or something nor fucked up the solo). Weiland is ok, didn't look that gay.  ;D
Anyways, for those who didn't catch letterman's show, go to the hub!  :beer:

Slash kicked ass tonight............had the badass look going for him with the jacket and he had all the moves......definitely a tip top performance.......and sorry dave there were no fuck ups in the performance....you know but of course Scott didn't have to run a few feet past security so he was able to keep his breath and such. haha  ::)

the shot of matt sorum flexing before they started was lame

does scott weiland really have to dance like that??  he made me sick..... I thought I was gonna puke

the close up of slash's old and really fat face was a bit lame-
   
it sounded really bad... the solo was kinda cool but it sounds like a solo on one of the illusion cds and i cant think of which one... i hear it every time i hear slither

also... i once talked to the other guitarist at the rainbow and he's a real dick.  looking at him makes me sick.

address for hub?

i have to watch this!

hook me up!

i love androgenous people i think they are awesome cause they are comfortable to act the way they wanna act!

oh, ok. thank you for sharing this delightful info with all of us....

What a fucking retarded loser. :rant: I don't even have the words to describe a little shit like you, so I may as well not even try. You only posted this to start shit because you're some low-life moron who has nothing better to do - so don't fucking talk about LAME! >:( >:( >:( And you're the one to talk about making people sick. You're the one who makes people sick and I see I'm not the only one who thinks so.

By the way, this thread is going to be moved.

Ok.

You guys keep mentioning" go to the HUB" , " I'll be around the HUB" and making people like me look very igorant. For us, a little bit of guidance wouldn't hurt. What the hell is the HUB? and is there an address to that?  

dude....you really are a llama! ;D

Just go to Velvet-Revolver.com, the videos up there...

However when I downloaded it, I only got 2:50 (up to the solo) and it cut off... :(

well shit

i cant believe i forgot

i shouldve last night put a tape in my vcr and time recorded it

Lol :rofl:


Ok no more insults or we'll have the mods on our ass :hihi:

My little cousin just sent it to me. It was pretty damn good and the solo didn't seem butchered to me. It actually was pretty slammin.

...everyone shares the same ass?!  :hihi:

 :rofl:

Smartass ;)

Fyne asses : ok:

The performance was lame, it's the truth. Don't bash a guy for speaking the truth.

thanks

Wow

Let me say this first... I am always fascinated  by anything that any memeber of the original 5 take part in... well except for Popcorn cuz hes never done anythign since.
Just listening or seeing Dufff and Slash usually makes me go wow...but I really wasnt impressed with the Letterman performance... I know iot was Letterman but the energy wasnt really there...and I really didnt take to Weiland at all.
It didnt seem to fit with Slash at all. I want the redhead. I know I know its not happening.
I'm sure I will enjoy it alot more tonight at Roseland

Peace

Well, I fell asleep, but I had a tape set so I'll watch it after work today. :)

How can anyone say he didnt fuck up the solo.
Its amazing how slash didnt fuck up that solo yet robin fucks up every solo  :rofl:

He played it very sloppy but of coarse slash fans will just pretend he played it perfect.

I liked the performance but I think the song sounds better in the studio version. I think Weiland looks better in the video(his hair), and I sometimes feel bothered by his moves. Duff?s "vocals" were a bit weak.

Yeah, I think he made a mistake at one point. But it's made to compare Slash to Robin: a guitar god to Mr. Out-of-tone-i-don't-know-what-to play-scales-what's that? Finck.

made=mad

DAVE - You obviously have an agenda to bad mouth Velvet Revolver.  I am assuming you are a blind Axl loyalist.  You already stated you don't like Velvet Revolver, which makes me wonder why you would even want to see them on Letterman?  I don't like InSYNC, so if they were on Letterman I wouldn't watch them.


I thought the performace was solid.  I like Set Me Free better than Slither, but it still was a solid rock performace.  As far as Weiland's clothes, as stated before, it is better than white biker shorts.  It was great seeing Slash and Duff on the same stage.

great performace!  : ok: anyone know where to get full song and on good quality?  :)

There is already a thread for this topic.....and it is a lot more informative than this one.

ding ding ding...we have a winner!!!  Scott baited you, and you took the bait.  
...He's a faggot boy, cause you say so. (<---quote from big machine by the way)

Dude, give it a rest. You don't like VR, stay in the GnR forum. It is there for a reason, you know.

And why the fuck can't people like both VR and new GnR? I don't get it - I know there are probably plenty of people that do, but being loyal to one or the other is stupid. Slash and Axl are both jackasses - who cares? I like bands because they make good music. I don't give two shits otherwise.

Same here. That sucks!!! I've liked what I've seen. It was cool seeing Slash again performing. Despite the 3 second solo ( it cuts off I don't know why) it gave me the chills. He still looks cool...however,

Is it just me or his face looks bloated?

One more thing, for those who have attended any VR shows, has Slash done any background vocals at all? just curious....

I thought the performance was really good, I was impressed.  The band was not as energetic as I would've liked, but hell, this is Letterman, and they don't have the time or the space to put on a proper show.  Slash was into it though, hopping up and down and banging his head.  I have it on tape also, so I watch it over and over.   8)  Can't wait to see them live on Friday.



Indeed.

Would somebody mind answering this guy's query?

Slash looked cool, too bad they didn't get to talk at all.  


A little bit, I don't know if that's from age or alcoholism.

Weiland didn't look into it and seemed to be dragging, but it was a soundstage performance so that's a bit understandable.  

I do find Matt Sorum endlessly annoying though.  

Yea, besides, it's Slash's solo, even if it was different...it's still his damn solo! He can kick it any old way he wants! It was awesome though. I've watched it half a dozen times.

Dave you know nothing about the guitar so don't even bother making an arguement. Keep holding your breath for Axl while the rest of us enjoy the Velvet Revolver.
And if you wanna make comparisons, this performance was much better than the 2002 VMA performance.  
Let it go dude. Stop bashing a band that you claim to hate, but can't stop discusing.

I think we just should ignore this Dave... don't answear to his comments and let him talk what he want...

Next time you make a post like that, it'll be your last on this board.  : ok:



/jarmo

Sure. I assume they're talking about Sladdi's Hub. You can find more info here: http://newgnr.com/hub/ (http://newgnr.com/hub/)
You need a software called DC++ to access the Hub. Download it here: http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/index.php?t=2&s=1 (http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/index.php?t=2&s=1), and check the site I mentioned above for the rest... ;)

actually it's another hub......the addy is axlrose.no-ip.info and that's where I posted the Letterman show last night... my name is bildo on there and the file size is 39mb's it's in really good mpeg quality too.  I'll also put the making of VR's video up too whenever i get the chance to catch.

I do! I totally like 'em both, man. I'm probably more of a GNR/Axl fan, but I'm realistic enough to know VR is more of a band and more likely to produce something for me, and I very much enjoyed this performance.

One reason the energy might not have been superhigh is that Dave keeps the temperature of the Ed Sullivan Theater in the 50s and the audience was probably just a bunch of tourists. Not a very inspiring setting. It was still a compelling performace that will probably create interest in the band and the album, which is why they play these shows.

This is the first performance I've seen of VR. I really like Scott, I appreciate his singing a lot more than I did with STP. Nothing jaw dropping ala vintage Axl, but a lot of feeling and nuance. Way better than Eric Dover or Rod Jackson, man. His dancing is very sexual, and that's going to cause problems for repressed homosexuals. As rock showmanship goes, I find it pretty effective compared to the Korn, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit hyper-aggressive jumpin' around monotony.

Slash is still Slash. I'll always listen to anything Slash has to offer. Unlike Dave, I loved his solo. Pretty tight, I like the way they do that quick pause off the drums and then Slash's solo kicks in. Thumbs up for Slash.

Duff, damn! He looks great! Looks like the old Duff, except with a tan. He looked terrible during the UYI years, pale and bloated. He looks better than ever right now. Duff has a great stage presence too. Here's a guy that belongs on a rock stage.

I've never cared for Matt's drumming or stage persona, still don't. Dave Kushner had no impact on me atol.

As a unit (and as I expected) Slash, Duff, and Scott carry all the weight. The three of them have a very interesting old-school, ex-junkie camaraderie that comes across very well. I'm sure they've had better live performances during the current tour, but this being the first I've seen, I definitely liked it and I'm looking forward to hearing more of the new material.

just purely hypothetical, isn't it possible to put (a) certain member(s) of this board on ignore? so you can't see what they post?
that would be an awesome feature to have here.
just in case someone, hypothetically, posts annoying shit that I don't wanna read all over the forum, but I don't know where the posts will appear, and when I read them, I have the urge to say things that might end up getting me banned. remember, it's just a hypothetical question!

and if that's not possible, and you get the same feeling that I just described when someone post stuff, just try to ignore it anyways, I really think that would be more effective then writing something back to that hypothetical person.

 :peace:

yeah kiedis but if we did that hell people may only get to see 4 post a thread! :hihi:

i agree with SLC

its SLash's solo, so he can change or add or do what the hell ever to it

but when robin butchers slash's solo's its different,cause u cant take something thats perfect *NR,SCOM* and try to redo something thats so memorable in everyones heads

u sing along to NR and scom's solo's just like the lyrics and it would be like axl switching the words or melody up on u, it would suck

watchin slash last night made me long for old gnr for the first time ever

im a huge axl nuttswinger just below dave but u  know i must admit slash has more charisma and emotion in his pinky than all the new gnr guitarist combined

and it made me think what couldve been cause slash still gives me that hyped feeling on a slightly lower level than axl though, but he's still my fav guitarist  of all time


Duffs vocals were a little weak but anyone whose ever followed gnr live shouldnt be all that shocked! :hihi:

yeah, but that's something people have to concider before putting someone on ignore, it would still be great to have the opportunity to do it! : ok:

Ok, I'll reply Dave. You need to know one thing: I support both bands. In fact, I love newGNR and love Finck. I never said anything bad about him, I really love his guitar work in the new songs like Rhiad (in the chorus), Madagascar (smooth play, you can hear the guy very well in soundboards like Tacoma and Idaho - in the Bucket's solo, Finck's doing an awesome rhythm) and The Blues (it's one of the best solos I've heard in a long time). I really like his dirty sound. Not to start a newGNR x VR debate again, but I really liked Axl songs more than VR tunes.
So, I didn't said that Slash is perfect and Robin isn't. I like both. Slither is not my favourite new tune (YGNR is way better for me), but, as a guitar player, I can say he didn't fucked up the solo. So, if you would take my opinion as not biased, I can say that Slash's solo in Letterman show wasn't sloppy.
Hope you understand me, I don't have anything against you or newGNR.  : ok:

Agh all this arguments lately are boring, Jarmo you should fire all da loyalist that only stirr up arguments that go nowhere. (both from VR and NUgnr). AGH OH AGH  :)

The performance was good.

Slash's solo was awesome. He might've screwed just a wee little bit , but it don't really madda.

Everybody was fun, matt was making crazy faces... but scott was off key. Didn't anybody notice it? He was out of tune quite often. whatever, they're just trying to have fun and it's all good.

No he did not fuck up the solo, He does mess up now and then. But ive been playing guitar for years and I KNOW when someone "fucks up". I like both bands but slash's guitaring is better then anything ive heard on the new gnr songs. The blues comes the closest to slash level.

Wow i say slash fucked up the solo and the VR fans are up in arms.
Go figure. These are the same people that were bitching when BH and Robin played the solos different or blew a note.
If anyone who think slash didnt fuck up are just fooling themselves.
Now why was it ok when  you guys were doing it to the new gnr yet when people point out slash fucks up too you guys get all pissy?
Like I said before, you guys thought it was great pointing out all the fuck ups by the new band, so now the shoe is on the other foot, and  you must deal with it.
Its just funny watching you guys get all upset,  you know I am right that is why you are getting so mad.

Way to go guys, you keep proving my points.
Thanks for doing that, you make it too simple.

As for if i hate VR, you read my review of the album thus far didnt ya?

As for robin not playing with emotion, you have got to be kidding me.
Did  you even watch him play at the live shows?

I missed it!What did they play?Will it be shown again and when?

No one's checking the Appetite For Collection section? lol ;)

John M. posted an amazing SVCD version of the song they played Slither, on STG (you have to register): http://www.sharingthegroove.org/msgboard/showthread.php?s=&threadid=68666 (http://www.sharingthegroove.org/msgboard/showthread.php?s=&threadid=68666)

So I guess you didn't know Weiland before VR,cause those moves aren't new at all.

what you people don't realize,I don't know why, it isn't that hard to figure out,you're watching the David letterman show,anyone who goes down there to do a musical performance is only bringing the bare necessities to play,
therefore the sound can't be at its best,I saw VR playing live a few days ago,they fucking ROCK,so enough with this crap about how they sounded last night,and go get a fucking ticket to see them live,alright?

 by the way,they rocked last night too. :beer:

Thanks,One Problem the sound on my PC doesn't work so I am hoping for a re-run

I saw (and taped) the Letterman performance last night on Australian tv, and wow, it's great to see all of those guys together on stage again!

The whole band looked and sounded great, even Slash's solo. I don't know what Dave is talking about Slash fucking it up.

Scott had a cool Axl swagger about him during parts of the performance too.

I am on other car forums that have ignore features and they are great. Here, for the people that always say the same thing, I just scroll by them.

I am tired of bitching about how Scott dances on stage.  Scott has awesome stage presence and transfixes an audience.  He is who he is he has not changed, you should know that going in.  Along with Axl, Scott is one of the best frontmen around.  He does what he does and he does it well bottomline.

Not to make fun of Axl but I just watched the Ritz 88 show and if my eyes didn't see correctly slap me but I'm pretty sure I saw Axl do a riverdance type of jig before he started Out Ta Get Me.

Is that right? It should play fine in PowerDVD or WinDVD though.

I think this site's server supports that feature, but it's disabled.

Ok Dave, looks like you didn't even read what I wrote. You should at least read my opinion before say that we are only Slash fans that can't see anything wrong with him.
Sorry if I like VR and newGNR and you can't like those two bands at the same time. You're just making the others members point when you generalize like this.  :no:

Yeah we all know Duff is a great Bass player. Dont hate the player hate the game

I really didn't think he did mess it up. To me he was just doing some mad vibrato and was going nuts.

I think Slash and Duff were great...but Scott was...I dunno, let's say I think I'll try to avoid the videos of the band, I'll stick to the audio boots. The way he's moving on stage is kinda weird I think, but that's just me.

[Like I don't know who would pay to make their own pizza, but that's just me! ;D]

In all honesty, the coolest guy there was duff. Slash was pretty good too, I like the solo. Scott's singing was off, especially the chorus. Scott should also consider learning some more dancing moves...every time I see him, he uses the same one.

Looks to me that many of the people stating Slash's solo was good said beforehand they they were BOTH nuGnR and VR fans. Some even said that they prefer nu GnR. Relax..... It doesn't even seem like you are reading peoples posts dude.

Yeah, that's what I told him. I even sent a pm with my post. I don't have anything against Dave, but this things sucks.  :-\

I liked the performance, Slash still looks the same and duff's hair has grown long again and they look great

Matt looked lke a tool flexing his muscles and Scott was okay except for the poofta pose he did at one stage

All in all i'm glad i stayed up to see it.

I don't know what some of you were watching but i finally got to see it last night.  

It was a great confident performance.  The solo was in tune/in key, so nothing wrong with that. Hendrix didn't play the same solo every time- it's rock n' roll man!  

And i don't what the hang up over Scott is? There are obviously some repressed homo emotions coming out of some people lol   From the descripitions i had read hear i was expecting to see leather chaps (ala axl lol)  but he was just wearing normal black trousers surely ?? lol

I think some people havent got over the fact that It's not some cheesy metal singer up there (bach).

But in no way could you call that a bad performance.  It was strong and in tune.  Yeh Slash looks older, but so will you when your his age and have lived the life he has.  It does not detract from the fact he is still THE Guitarist of our time he is awsome.

VR sounded fine....the real story of the night was that guy who broke 415 boards in 1 minute with his hand.  That was truely unpleasent to watch and he was only trying to beat his own record, which he ended up tying.
Don't Duff and Scott do martial arts?
 

It was an aweome performance. Scott sang very well, Slash played the solo awesome. What the fuck is wrong with some of you? I played guitar for 15 years and That solo was friggin' awesome. There is no wrong notes, no timing faults. Get the bootlegs surfaced from Velvet revolver and listen Mr.Brownstone; that's the way that solo should be played.

This album will rock. Hope Axl releases cd sometime and we'll hear his awesome voice in new songs too.  

 

i am reading the posts just fine. Some of you are just way to anal when it comes to the new guys in gnr but way to easy on slash.
Look at it this way, if that was robin playing the solo on letterman atleast 10 people would have claimed he fucked up the solo.
It amazes me the same people that claim robin fucks up SCOM are the same people that are saying slash didnt mess up this solo or better yet, when slash changes his solo a bit these people are saying its ok but when bh or robin did it it was wrong and ruining the songs.  You all can get pissed at me all you want but I am just doing what these same people who are bitching did back during the 2002 tour.

Nitpicking is fun eh?

I thought Slash's solo was fine on Letterman.  

its people who dont play are saying he fucked up, he dident fuck up at all ppl need to grow up or better yet fuck up  :rofl:

well i used to play guitar so i guess that throws their theory right out the window.
even if i never played guitar, you dont have to play guitar to hear when someone messes up

Here you go Dave, we'll make you a deal. We'll give Slash/Finck the benefit of the doubt when playing material they wrote. If they're covering work other guitarists wrote, in the case of Finck/Bucket....we expect it to be played as the original musician wrote it. The same will go for Slash when he covers STP songs....we'll make sure to rag on him. So when Finck(I would say Bucket but he isn't in the band anymore) copies Slash's solos....I want them perfect. When Slash plays material he wrote, he can do whatever he wants with it. That is the beauty of playing in a band where you actually play original material.

People were bitching when BH was changing the madagascar solo every show or when finck would blow a note on the blues solo, so its the same thing.
As for bands playing cover songs (ie robin playing the afd songs) its more likely that robin will play the afd songs diff from slash since robin will put his own twist on it.'
Its less likely slash would fuck it up since he wrote it.

You cant have it both ways.
A fuck up is a fuck up, it does not matter who wrote the song.

I really dont see why people have to go balastic when I or someone else does not like a VR song or think slash fucked up or scott sounds like shit.

People did it for the 2002 tour and we had to deal with it, so why cant these vr fans deal with it?

Its a simple question that has yet to been answered.

That makes no sense since many of the best covers doesn't sound like the original versions. When you play your own songs, that's when it should sound like it did on the record. Unless you're making a new version of the song.....  :hihi:

By your logic, GN'R messed up Knockin' On Heaven's Door and many of the other covers they played.


/jarmo

Knocken On Heavens Door does not have an anthem solo to it. Play the G Major Pentatonic and you could do whatever you want on that no one will care. But a lot of the GNR solos has a certain theme to them having said that I thought Robin did a good job on most of the solos. And slash did not fuck up the solo on letterman.

Of course. It's like said Buckethead fucked Nightrain with his own beautiful solo wich improved the song! :nervous:
Anyways, the thing is: Slash didn't fucked up the solo, it's a fact. It's not a matter of taste or who likes who. I like VR and the VR fans can prove me wrong, but I think that Slash actually fucked up some solos in the first half of the Toronto show, but he didn't made anything wrong in Letterman. Robin Finck fucked up The Blues solo in Pittsburgh, but played the same song very well in NY. As a guitar player too, it's pretty easy to hear those things. Why is that too hard to understand?  ???

I don't see why people complain about scott moving around on stage like he does.Axl did the same kind of stuff

I think its the fact that when axl did it, it looked kick ass and hardcore. When scott does it its more soft looing. I dont really care as long as he just doesnt stand there and sing. i hate that

axlrose.no-ip.info i am the owner :) thnxz to bildo and woodochild they are good users .... you can find there everything you ever dream about guns n`roses and velvet revolver :) enjoy .. thnxz slash for that awesome performanse the guy looks happy , bouncing and jumping great ... simple words: A.W.E.S.O.M.E!

Yep, it's the fact that some people are bothered by the fact that Scott isn't worried about looking traditionally "manly".  I think it makes less secure people feel guilty for watching it.  Personally, I love his stage persona.  The dude is married to a supermodel, quit worrying about him looking gay.

I've never seen Axl move like Scott does, but I see your point. The thing is, Axl kinda used to do that like 10-15 years ago...People are complaining about Axl's shorts/spandex/whatever (UYI tour) but look at the pants Scott is wearing in the Slither video! :o I don't feel guilty for watching it. I just feel like sticking to the audio boots.

Btw, Scott recently said he would "get maniac on [a journalist's] ass!", I know it's just an expression but it's still a weird one, especially towards a guy who gave the album 4 stars out of 5... ;D

Really? Do you have a pic of his wife? Who is she?

 ???

So?  

Its my assumption that 9 out of 10 people will tell you that 10 to 15 years ago was when Axl was at his best (the one exception being davegnfnr2k).  Is your point that dancing strangely is outdated or something?


...Theyre silver pants?  Youre going to compare them to spandex biker shorts?  


Thats cool, Im just a little confused by your justification for it.


I think the verbal attack was unnecessary and silly, but it wasnt exactly the glowing review you seem to think it is when the author calls Weiland a "career fuckup" and suggests that the band was trolling rehab centers.  It was all completely backhanded - certainly not worth responding to, but there was a little more than just 4 stars.

I reckon it was a Good performance, not great, but good.

Slash & Scott slipped up a few times, but when they didnt slip up they did amazingly well  & sounded great. Scott voice sometimes sounds a lil off but when he hits the right note it was just amazing to hear

So yeah could've been better, no where near as bad as these "anti-VR" guys tried to say

Man, am I the only one who wishes Sorum wasn't part of this thing?  That dude has no charisma and he just looks stupid back there making faces and doing his best to look intense and cool.

Aside from that... it rocked.

How exactly did you deal with it?

By participating in boring, drawn-out arguments, and constantly bringing them up two years later...?

The "fuck up" in the solo was an extended trill, or heavy vibrato. It was in the scale of the solo. It was just different.

When people rag on Robin, its when he goes out of key by a half note in LALD. Missing a note by a half step is the worst thing you can do, as it is very obvious you screwed up. The fact is, Robin also didn't only do this once. He also fucked up the SCOM intro. As if there is any other way to play that. I love Robin. He screwed up, oh well. Only a handfull of internet geeks care anyways. They only care because this new incarnation is supposed to be SO special. Why is it these hired guns can't even play the notes. I think thats all it is.

Scott was out of key in the Howard Stern performace of "Slither". He was fine in the Letterman performance.

It was one of the better late night live sets in the last couple years. Its not saying a whole lot, but its still a valid statement.

i would like the actual precise second where he messes up because I fail to hear it. IF you mean the bend after the first quick bit that is purely intentional just a thing guitar players do fall a bit behind time and then bend/run their way to get bk in time, listen to Gary Moore if you don't believe me. Listen to him ur like does this fit he's lost it then a run or a bend and its like that was fantastic. Robin purely hit a wrong note on the fretboard that is poor and sounds terrible, i thought that the band was strong they sounded good apart maybe vocals werent as strong as poss. As a guitar player if I could play a solo like that as well as that, would I be in university? Hell no

Fish

playing too faast or too slow is fucking up too you know......

Why is it that VR fans give Chris Pittman shit for looking "gay" yet defend Scott for looking "gay"?

Its one of thoese things that make you go HMMMMM

keep running your mouth

I said the same thing the other day. its because peopel wnat to get on gnr anyway they can. BUt like i hav ebeen saying hsit comes full circle. Its cool if you dont like new gnr and thier image but why waste your time telling other peopel who like it or dont even care about that stuff. Its annoying. Now when people start talking about vr in any way the same way people talk about vr you get  the "stop comparing them to gnr they are different, yayaya. and the most funniest fun ive reads so far..."scotts teh frontman hes allowed to dress liek that"!lol that is too funny...but whatver ...some people like to hate...

and another funny thing is...can somebody guess what shirt slash was wearing in the nyc show?
the kings of industrial/techno...you guessed it NIN

actually when people make fun of chris pittman, it isn't to be taken seriously because people are just making fun of the fact that he really doesn't have much of a presence with the band.  It's called joking around and the people at this board who don't have something stuck up their ass would understand that.

Why is it funny that Slash was wearing NIN T-shirt?  are you implying that just because Fink is connected he shouldn't be wearing it or that he was taking the piss or what?

I can tell you i have an interview from back in '95 where he states The Downward Spiral was up there with The Stones' Beggers Banquet as his fav albums of all time.  People do not see music in such narrow terms as some on this board seem to.  

And about the dressing up thing, i think you'll find that alot of people who are really enjoying the VR thing, Like Scott Weiland. Those who say things against VR genereally seem to target him - so i have noticed.  I think alot of us liked Scott Weiland already and are not bothered by what he wears.  God help you guys if he comes on in his full drag (yeh wig and pink dress)  look lol

 I don't understand why the way some one is dressed- bothers people so much?  It's cool and important for a front man to be that confident - imo.

Dave can you tell me wheres the fuck up?? Cause I cant see it at all, I thought the solo was perfect.. Especially that fast part. And man, that Les Paul is awesome  :drool:

Really?  The "most funniest fun," huh?  So then why did you respond with...


 : ok:

Its okay, nobodys buying your "LOL thhats tooo funny!" defense-mechanisms anyway...

I am still waiting for one of the "defenders" to write a functional response. I mean how is anyone expected to take "peopel" or "liek" seriously. After reading it for about a year now, I highly doubt its mistyped that frequently.

This is also a thread about the Letterman performance, not Chris Pitman. I am not sure why people feel the need to infiltrate this thread with useless comments. As someone stated, Pitman could be the coolest dude around and he would still be a joke. Whats his purpose? Does he play the drum "loop" on Madagascar?

It has nothing to do with Finck. I just found it funny how all the Slash supporters always bash Axls apparent techno craze or whatver and SLash was wearing the biggest band in that genres shirt. I could care less it was just funny.

I agree with you on that 100%

I agree once again. WHo gives a fuck how a band member r band dresses. Its rock n roll. But scan these boards especially over the past few years and you will get fashion 101 classes.

It cant be bothering the great people here on the boards too much. As for my misspellings. SOrry, I know it doesnt look professional or whatver but I could careless. If people wanna take me seriously or not I could care less. And its not intentional. I just take really fast. I have a 4.0 in college so I guess my spelling isnt too bad. Especially since i had to write about 20 million papers this past year :}

I know it sux that threads get off topic. But once again thats how its been on the gnr boars over the years. It sux but its funny how it comes full circle.

As for pittman...to make fun or question his role in the band is stupid. You have no idea what he does or what he brings to the band for the CD and the rest of the albums. Just wait till the material is out and then judge him.

Pitman was stated as a touring member. Thats why he gets such slack. To be honest, when I saw them live, I dont think I even looked at him once. So I really can't tell you what he does.

I don't know what the fuck spelling has got to do with Rock n' Roll.  Bloody hell,  see internet and Rock do not mix. It's just a mix that is not getting on lol

Picking out spelling and punctuation mistakes is sad. As you have people from all backgrounds and nationalities, different levels of intelligence, different levels of intoxications lol and so on....

Come on this is not the school play ground, this is Rock n' Roll check your nut sack cause you need some balls to play along lol

Anyway back on topic lol   I think i have come up with what i think- sums up peoples opinion of VR ok. This is just general, not type casting everybody.  But i think it's split into 2 maybe three ways.

Those Love the idea of Scott Weiland as a front man anyway and this is just a dream band you would not have thought would happen.  - i'm in this group of people.

Then you have those who really wanted Bach or some one from that era and haven't really got over that.

Which if i'm honest i can understand from the point of view: if he was the singer i would hardly be interested at all in VR they would have just looked a cheesy metal joke IMO  

So i think it's just a case of where you are coming from whether you like the flamboyant wide range approach to music of Scott Weiland or the more macho hair metal from the likes of Bach.
 

Way to dodge a question.
So typical.

haha, just because a guy is married doesn't mean he's not gay or bi.

And IMO to be married to a supermodel is usually a red flag that a guy is gay!

 :hihi:

Either way, I don't give a shit. The guy is a little fem when he moves around, but it still looks cool. Just like Jagger is a little fem (and a little gay too) and he has been with women for years.

Jagger moves are cool. Weilands arent  :no:

Good point SLCPUNK.  I know Weiland is very sexually open.  I mean I've been a fan of his since '92, and i got a pretty good laugh at the supermodel red flag comment.  Again, a good point.  But, uhh, yeah, that reduces my point to he is married. :rofl:

for anyone curious here are some links to pictures of his wife Mary Forsberg:
http://www.geocities.com/dnslave/scottandmary.htm (http://www.geocities.com/dnslave/scottandmary.htm)
http://internettrash.com/users/fairuza/bathroom.jpg (http://internettrash.com/users/fairuza/bathroom.jpg)

Scott Weiland is a cool lookin mothefucker

he is one of the few true rockstars still around!

would u rather scott be like he is? or act like the lead singer from hoobastank or something?

Scott is rock n roll, scott kicks ass and i think his moves fuckin rock!

I still have yet to see this!!!  The link on VRonline.com no longer works and the hub gives my connection too many fits....could anyone help out??

so then perhaps you shouldn't dodge the questions and tell us where slash fucks upp the solo jeeezz.... :confused:

and scott is the last true rock star in it's true format! and to those who thinks he looks gay, for fucks sake, how gay didn't slash and steve and izzy look when they were so fucked up on heroine back in the days! look at the way slash acts infront of the mic during st. louis and shit like that. heroing and strong narcotic drugs like that, but specially heroine, does make your body and it's hormone balance act alot more feminine... nothing about wanting a dick up your ass!

it pisses me off so bad that the best thing you can say about wieland is that he is gay... pathetic... fools... so fucking illiterate or whatever  :hihi:

Just listen to the live solo and the single one, you can tell easily.
how is scott the last true rock star/
he is trying to be axl rose
just listen tohis rants
scott will be in jail before sept

that is the most childish response i've ever seen dave....c'mon man you're getting worse and worse.

Dave, your ignorance is sooooo cute...no really...it is : ok:

Dave, Slash didnt fuck up the solo, for gods sake... I actually prefer the Letterman one  : ok:

Only in your eyes.   Because to you, every aspect of life is in competition with Axl Rose.  It's just that you're the only one keeping score.


So anybody who ever rants onstage is attempting to emulate Axl Rose?



Childish shit.

let's just leave this looser dave-gnfnr2k alone... let him post what he wants, but just ignore his posts  :)

Wow it?s easy to ruffle the feathers of VR fans.  And I love how you are all getting pissy for me giving my view on things.

Like I said, and VR fans can deny it all they want, Slash blew some notes and fucked up the solo on Letterman. The only person you are fooling is yourself.

As for Scott trying to act like Axl Rose, of coarse he is, just listen to his interviews or rants about that guy in the press.
The ironic thing is though, when Scott did it, you all thought it was cool, but when Axl does the same thing you call him an asshole.
Go figure.

As for me being immature for saying Scott will be back in jail/rehab by sept, why is that immature?

You can?t tell me you are not worried he will relapse.
The sad thing is, Scott has gotten so many 2nd chances its not even funny, the guy needs help and is not getting it. He really needs to get it before he hurts someone else.

Another ironic thing is this, it was a big joke when people make fun of Axl for supposedly having a metal break down or even for having personal problems and battling his inner demons, yet for Scott we should all cry him a river.

Gotta love VR fans and their twisted logic.

OK...WE GET YOUR FUCKING POINT!!!

Great ! Big fuckin' deal! You love Axl!

Enough already!!!!

Go back to your sandbox and play!

NOBODY, I MEAN...NOBODY cares!!

For the love of all things holy....


DROP IT!!!!!!!!!!

Thankyou for letting me share. ;D

whats the problem if Scott is gay or bisexual? he cant be a Rock Star then?

i personally dont like much the way Scott dances and that stuff , i like his voice , i have to watch more of him to see if i like it or not (not that anyone cares).
i dont think his trying to be Axl Rose , he is just himself .

Haha what the hell are you blabbering about?  Just because low and behold a magazine writer makes a statement putting down scott and he retaliates all of a sudden he's attempting to be like axl rose?  wow that's kind of vague don't you think.  And lets not forget the slash blew a single note :O omg , if you've ever listened to any of the old GNR boots he always experimented on his solo's live and as far as i care about scott weiland staying clean it's his own fucking choice.  If he wants to relapse oh well, the guy can handle himself.....hell personally i think he was trashed on the stern show.  But your problem is you're taking out your frustrations on not having a Guns N Roses album to hear on Velvet Revolver.  Just get over the shit really.....Also i think your problem is you don't understand that because Guns N Roses were one of the biggest bands in the world in the 80's and early 90's that of course so many eyes are put upon them coming up and people are gonna put extra pressure on Axl and his wrongdoings because he is in the spotlight.  As for Velvet Revolver, the guys are basically starting over anew in a different era than when they were really famous.  They're still a new band and people are gonna of course rave and rant that they're awesome because even you have to admit they're a breath of fresh air for the whole music community.  My whole point is.......just because a few dipshits on this board don't understand Axl Rose and constantly bitch about how he doesn't release anything or how he looks, you shouldn't take that and fuel your rants about Velvet Revolver.  Because most level headed guns n roses fans would also support VR due to the respect of the ex band members and what they did for gnr and vice versa.  I dont' think you understand the fact that most fans of VR are also GNR fans and are happy to have TWO bands to enjoy.

No offense man but your posts over the past few weeks regarding vr/gnr are giving us "Gnr supporters/loyalists whatever we are called" a bad image. I mean some of the stuff you say is really out there and only makes people take you less seriosuly and people who are also on "your side"///but whatevr. The only thing I would agree with you on is that a lot of things are coming full circle. That I would agree with you on.

Just lay low...i promise we will have the last laugh....with what counts.....peace

actually, everyone who loves both the old members and Axl will have the last laugh... because that's two awesome bands to listen to!

Right now, after hearing the studio versions of some songs off of VR's album, I don't even care about old GnR being back together.  I love this new band and Weiland rocks!

Indeed.  : ok:

Agreed.

MY LORD!!  I finally got to see the Letterman clip (kudos to whoever provided the working link).  Bear in mind, I have only seen the Slither vid about 3-4 times, and I've never seen them perform any original material on film.  I was absolutely floored....Unbelievable chemistry that was instantaneous....All of them are magnetic and simply leap off the screen (Even Sorum, who looks like he's trying just a bit too hard IMO)...They've done a flawless job of cultivating their "return to roots" RnR band image, and Weiland has transformed himself for the umpteenth time.  Say what you want about his style sense(?!? Why say anything?), but he's unquestionably the best active frontman on the planet...So over the top, but for what the band is shooting for, it works perfectly...Whoever was complaining about the solo is not listening; Slash was on FIRE...It doesn't sound like the record?  He's a musician, that's the reason bands play live, unless one would prefer to pay $35 bucks to fill a venue while they press play on a box and let the CD run....I don't get it.....The energy coming out of the breakdown middle section was so intense that I couldn't help but disregard the repetitive nature of the song.....I am so intrigued by this band and this record, it's unbelievable...Trust me when I say, I am not easily won over in the least..My standard with regard to music is pretty high, almost unrealistically so...

^^

Well next time Robin or a new gnr band member plays a song different from the orginal or the cd version I dont want to hear you bitching about it.  : ok:

 ::)

Dude, I love Robin, hes my favorite new member, and YES he can play the guitar. But he indeed fucks up a lot the solos. Not because he plays them different. Just listen to Pittsburgh The Blues solo. He fucks up a lot on that one. He fucks up CD in that same gig.. But who cares, its only rock n roll. Slash used to fuck up to, but he DIDNT fuck up the Slither solo AT ALL.

Seriously, where did you think he fucked up??

Dave, I think you're a bit too defensive...Why are ou consistently keeping score?  I absolutely adored the latest incarnation of GNR..I never bitched at all...I thought the band was second to none.  Buckethead happens to be one of my favorite artists and Robin plays with so much passion...I've just grown tired of waiting for the train to leave the station...I'm excited about the project that's actually active at the moment...

i need a fuckin workin link so i can watch all of this!

cmon someone hook me up!

VR rocked!

but they did not show enough of slash.
too many scott closeup.

slash only hit one sour note thats all and it fucking sounds cool!

Count me in with Oneway! I thought the performance was nice. Weiland has a sleek almost Bowie like thing going. Slash is still a stud and played a great solo-live performance is about improv and slight changes to make things interesting. I can't imagine why someone would want to hear an exact replica of the song. Anyhow, the live tone of SLASH'S guitar is much better than the single studio version. I hope this producer didn't zap the energy out of these songs on the studio versions. We shall see soon enough.  :peace:

Read the other pages of this thread. Me and some other guys were trying to show how we really liked newGNR and Finck and - at the same time - we didn't found any fuck up in Slash's solo in Letterman. I even said I'm a guitar player, but Dave can't read posts like that. He's on the attack mode, anything good you'll say about VR he'll attack the band. It's like "if you don't hate VR, you can't love nuGNR".
Like Eduardo said: who cares, it's only rock n roll.  : ok:

You are not the only one. I have never dug Matt Sorum. At the time in 1990, I was thankful that he "saved the band" according to Axl. But I will always associate him with a very boring, clinical sound and image that somewhat carried over to GNR when he was with them.

I am not defensive at all, some VR fans are when I am saying the same stuff about VR that they were saying about gnr back when they were touring.

And Like I said just listen to both solos, you can tell where slash fucks up.
Its not too hard. Do i really  have to give you the time on the video where he fucks up?
Just listen to the part near the middle where he blows some notes its obvious.
But of coarse its slash and not robin so VR just pretent they did not hear it.

Yes robin fucked up the end of the blues solo the same way slash fucked up the middle part of the slither solo on letterman.

Yes, that would be helpful, because I still cant see the fuck up.

BTW Robin fucks up the WHOLE Blues solo in Pitt. And he fucks up a LOT more than Slash.

Edit: And even if Slash "fucked up" he makes the mistakes sound cool, and Robins sound like shit

I watched this the other night and loved it. Slash, Scott and Duff all looked sexy, IMO.

And they sounded really good, too. I didn't notice any mistakes.

The Late Show with VR performing is on tonight on Swedish ZTV.



/jarmo

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