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Title: Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: grog mug on May 28, 2004, 03:09:31 AM
There is someone on EBAY claiming they have a chinese democracy demo that people are actually bidding on.  Most of the titles I've seen but There Was A Time and Prostitute are both supposively on the DEMO.  Here's the link maybe see what's up with this guy and what he's trying to pull....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4014863758&rd=1


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: badapple81 on May 28, 2004, 03:47:23 AM
What an ass!

Poor people who dont know any better that are bidding.

Someone should put an end to that item.


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: Hammy on May 28, 2004, 05:19:21 AM
False Fuckin' Advertising.  It's as bad as me having Busted demos on a CD and selling it as Barry White singing from beyond the grave


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on May 28, 2004, 05:54:38 AM
he put " My fellow Americans " in the tracklisting ...  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: norway on May 28, 2004, 06:22:00 AM
How come my favorite pillow is not listed? :D


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: Stupid Head on May 28, 2004, 07:40:01 AM
Woah, theyve auctioned this cd before. Check out the response from the guy who won the last auction for the cd demo:
"A Very quick , and very honest dealer !!! would deal again"  :hihi: :confused:


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: outlawaxl on May 28, 2004, 07:44:52 AM
Its bullshit.. look its in Italy... Do you really think it would have made its way to Italy but not the States first??



Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: anarchy on May 28, 2004, 08:01:24 AM
Shadow of Your Love? HA! That's a fucking Hollywood Rose song and an old GNR B-side. :lol:


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: spiderman on May 28, 2004, 08:41:43 AM
i have heard a track called "the powers that be" that is listed. it sounds like a live recording of axl giving a speech to a crowd which some numbnuts has put music to (mainly keyboard or synth) one of the lines in the track is "this is the nineties(?!@)".
i have also heard a so called gnr track called "prostitute" which is an instrumental with a similar guitar sound to "oh my god" it could be gnr but then again it could be god dam anybody! ???


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: norway on May 28, 2004, 09:08:18 AM
Yes, it's very easy to take away the vocals on oh my god. I just twist the balance on my amp and voila: A instrumental verson of it... then people can add whatever the fuck they want from bootlegs. It's so fake with the new songs around... like kazaa


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: norway on May 28, 2004, 09:10:15 AM
Like kazaa and the no vocal songs


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: spiderman on May 28, 2004, 09:26:18 AM
when i say i have heard a track entitled "prostituite" with a similar sound to "oh my god" i mean the techno?rock soumd hes got going. i dont think its a reworking of "oh my god" presuming the tracks fake more likley a fresh recording of someone pretending to be gnr (to be fair the inststrumental track dont sound bad) i could send an mp3 of the song if i knew how and if anyones actually interested.... :confused:


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: outlawaxl on May 28, 2004, 10:13:07 AM
why did Lisa Reed bid on this item? Smutwriter is her screen name correct? so why would she bid on this?


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: Chandler on May 28, 2004, 10:36:33 AM
why did Lisa Reed bid on this item? Smutwriter is her screen name correct? so why would she bid on this?

I was wondering the same thing myself  :P  More than likely it is some else using her screen name for their e-bay account.


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: blues_rock_axeman on May 28, 2004, 10:48:36 AM
he put " My fellow Americans " in the tracklisting ...  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 :o

My song! hehehe (I think some here will understand that one!  ;D)


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: bill213 on May 28, 2004, 12:20:25 PM
DARN they forgot to put MY Favorite Pillow on the demo........everyone knows that's the best new GNR song  :beer:


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: Buddha_Master on May 28, 2004, 01:49:05 PM
You know what would be funny? If some of the tracks were actual demos from Chinese Democracy, and none of you are going to hear it, 'cause you are so conditioned to bitch and state the obvious.


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: SLCPUNK on May 28, 2004, 03:04:05 PM
I'm so damn curious I may just buy it. If it is BS I'll just have it taken off my CC, citibank has always been good to me.  ;D

I am going to email the dude and see what's up.

I happen to like Barry White, so it may work out anyway.... :hihi:

EDIT: I didn't read that there was already a winner. I'm going to email them and ask them to tell me what it is like when they get it.


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: outlawaxl on May 28, 2004, 06:26:14 PM
EDIT: I didn't read that there was already a winner. I'm going to email them and ask them to tell me what it is like when they get it.

please post what you get back.... that Smutwriter bidding on it gives me a strange feeling... like the above poster said it could be someone just using Lisas screen name but who would think to do that shit?


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: kyrie on May 28, 2004, 07:00:39 PM
EDIT: I didn't read that there was already a winner. I'm going to email them and ask them to tell me what it is like when they get it.

please post what you get back.... that Smutwriter bidding on it gives me a strange feeling... like the above poster said it could be someone just using Lisas screen name but who would think to do that shit?

Perhaps it is her and she's just bidding to check up and see if it's a real leak? Which I'm sure it isn't but still...

Most amusing comment ever was Axl letting slip that Buckethead had bought GNR bootlegs off EBay...


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: privatereserve on May 28, 2004, 07:15:43 PM
Someone here buy the thing!!!!  I know you guys are saying its false, but what if its real bootlegs from Chinese Democracy.  


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: bill213 on May 28, 2004, 07:38:41 PM
You people have to be shitting me to honestly think this is real........c'mon i mean those are the same godamned mp3's you can shittingly download from kazaa and i hope whoever bought it enjoys.


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: SLCPUNK on May 28, 2004, 10:29:01 PM
I emailed the winning bidder and asked them if they would kindly let me know how the CD turned out.

You have to give them the time it takes to get it, and then they still may not even respond at all. We'll see, just not right away.

I would not hold my breath.  ;D


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: Acquiesce on May 29, 2004, 12:44:27 AM
SLCPUNK, you should email the winner of this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4013726134

They already left feedback so they must have received it. I doubt it's real though.


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: bill213 on May 29, 2004, 12:58:58 AM
Sadly I think the people buying this are fans of GNR that aren't followers of the internet wave of knowledge.....hence some poor gnr fan may think he's actually receiving a copy of chinese democracy..........they may not know that shadow of your love is actually a song from the 80's that was only released on a single......they'll hear it and be like OMG i have new gnr.........this person selling this stuff should be reported to gnr management.


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: SLCPUNK on May 29, 2004, 01:34:54 AM
SLCPUNK, you should email the winner of this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4013726134

They already left feedback so they must have received it. I doubt it's real though.

Cool, I emailed this person too.

I'm just curious as hell.

Like you said, I doubt it's real.


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: outlawaxl on May 29, 2004, 04:22:12 AM
I'm just curious as hell.

Like you said, I doubt it's real.

me too.. im soo curious why Lisa Reed would bid on this and if it is bullshit what is this???


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: badapple81 on May 29, 2004, 05:57:45 AM
EDIT: I didn't read that there was already a winner. I'm going to email them and ask them to tell me what it is like when they get it.

please post what you get back.... that Smutwriter bidding on it gives me a strange feeling... like the above poster said it could be someone just using Lisas screen name but who would think to do that shit?

Perhaps it is her and she's just bidding to check up and see if it's a real leak? Which I'm sure it isn't but still...

Most amusing comment ever was Axl letting slip that Buckethead had bought GNR bootlegs off EBay...

Haha.. I wonder if Buckethead and Axl are still waiting for their DVDs from Paul Cromwell too  ;D


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: Guns N Ballz on May 29, 2004, 09:02:42 AM
She said she bought it to inform GNR management. Or course she could have just sent a link but I guess keeping others from wasting thier money was nice of her. :)


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: SLCPUNK on May 29, 2004, 04:10:04 PM
Here is the response I got:


I am having Cd burner troubbles ,but I
> will see what I can do.Gimmie an address,and I'll
> send you a copy ,no charge.I think it's legit,but
> there are a few instrumental tracks,and one where
> axl is talking about world affairs.It sounds like
> them to me ,but  just my opinon. livin loud is a
> good song and if you listen to the vocal tone
> accents it is axl.when he screams the Mic does not
> have reverb so the vocals are loud and raw.These are
> just demos,if these songs get fleshed out are
> produced ,they could be real good songs.One song
> Strip bar sounds like a song by the band Gaurdian "
> I found Love"(christian band),but it's good.I am
> waiting like everyone for chinese democracy,even if
> I find the CD bootleged I will still by the real CD
> when it comes out.It's like a movie you like,you can
> tape it off tv,but you still have to go buy the
> DVD.I heard it's due out in the fall  oct/
> nov...then again we have all heard that before lol


You decide.......


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: RnT on May 29, 2004, 05:57:15 PM
Here is the response I got:


I am having Cd burner troubbles ,but I
> will see what I can do.Gimmie an address,and I'll
> send you a copy ,no charge.I think it's legit,but
> there are a few instrumental tracks,and one where
> axl is talking about world affairs.It sounds like
> them to me ,but  just my opinon. livin loud is a
> good song and if you listen to the vocal tone
> accents it is axl.when he screams the Mic does not
> have reverb so the vocals are loud and raw.These are
> just demos,if these songs get fleshed out are
> produced ,they could be real good songs.One song
> Strip bar sounds like a song by the band Gaurdian "
> I found Love"(christian band),but it's good.I am
> waiting like everyone for chinese democracy,even if
> I find the CD bootleged I will still by the real CD
> when it comes out.It's like a movie you like,you can
> tape it off tv,but you still have to go buy the
> DVD.I heard it's due out in the fall  oct/
> nov...then again we have all heard that before lol


You decide.......

let he send to you!


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: 2NaFish on May 29, 2004, 06:00:48 PM
Those are the tracks that were listed on Audiogalaxy for the album chinese democracy.

It is 100% fake.


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: SLCPUNK on May 29, 2004, 07:58:10 PM
Those are the tracks that were listed on Audiogalaxy for the album chinese democracy.

It is 100% fake.

What is Audiogalaxy?

It seemed like it probably was fake, especially since the guy said it sounded like a Christian rock group he knew of.

Is this on Kazza also?


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: junglegunner on May 29, 2004, 09:32:19 PM
 ;D the good old days of audiogalaxy


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: bill213 on May 29, 2004, 10:24:42 PM
Audiogalaxy was the first big download program for music right after napster was destroyed.  You had to download a satellite program and download files from the website on the the satellite.  However i think the fake chinese democracy demo cd actually surfaced in teh napsters days.  I can remember that and the keep on rising demo were brought up around the same time.


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: SLCPUNK on May 29, 2004, 10:35:47 PM
Audiogalaxy was the first big download program for music right after napster was destroyed.  You had to download a satellite program and download files from the website on the the satellite.  However i think the fake chinese democracy demo cd actually surfaced in teh napsters days.  I can remember that and the keep on rising demo were brought up around the same time.

ok, I'm only a few years behind, thanks. ;D


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: Guns N Ballz on May 29, 2004, 11:47:28 PM
*waves hands in the air wildly*

ITS FAKE!!!


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: madison on May 30, 2004, 12:02:15 PM
I have serious doubts that this is legit considering an old song like "Shadow of your love" is listed as one of the tracks.
Regardless, the label started looking into it on Friday. And if the demo is real, I doubt the guy will burning and selling copies much longer.


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: spiderman on May 30, 2004, 01:22:47 PM
Here is the response I got:



> there are a few instrumental tracks,and one where
> axl is talking about world affairs.It sounds like
> them to me


didnt any of you guys read my first post on the previous page? have faith in bucketface.... ever wondered why you can hear a crowd cheering in the background while axl talks about world leaders in the powers that be? what you think its just an effect like in "get in the ring"? oh please.... where are the guitar solos? some mug used a bootleg with some keyboards and maybe a synth. when axl says the line "this is the nineties?@!#
give me a break... okay fair enough he could have recorded it in the ninties but likley it would have been the late ninties so why use a line like that anyway, besides the track is piss poor anyway.


Title: Re:Chinese Democracy Demo..
Post by: spiderman on May 30, 2004, 01:33:24 PM
forgot to mention the instrumental track "prostitute" includes a riff that sounds strikingly similar to "your crazy" with some cool guitar soloing. but if its really gnr how come its an instrumental? isnt that convienient. anyone who expects to find evidence of "chinese democracy" sessions on these recordings are going to be very dissapointed. by the did anyone here ever get to listen to that "IRS" track? thats one track i would be very interested to listen to...