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Title: WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: C0ma on June 09, 2004, 11:46:56 AM
Yesterday afternoon I was listening to the tailend of the Paul Marshall show (3-7) on my way home from work. He and the DJ that was taking over at 7 were talking about the GnR Studio (Demo?) track he had played.....they also commented on the clip of Maddy he played from the VMA's. Of course they did nothing but bash it and use it for a lead in for a VR song, but a freind of mine said he heard it and they did play two songs he said the first didn't sound live but instantly recognized the 2nd as being Maddy from the VMA's........I guess the station claimed to have listeners calling in to ask them to stop plying it because it sounded awful..........

I was wondering if any of the posters from the Boston area heard this and can figure out what the first song was....I tend to think it was 1 of 3 things

1. a live track from the tour......based on the rection, probably Silk Worms
2. an older post Illusions demo which tended to be very poor quality (maybe even a ROSE track)
3. One of those piece of shit songs that is on Kaaza that gets pawned off as GnR like that Pillow song

I'd love to know if anyone heard it.......I tried to call but by the time I got thru the other DJ was on and told me to call Paul today


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: outlawaxl on June 09, 2004, 11:56:37 AM
you have to call him and see what it was..... its prob the same ol song and dace we get all the time from the Radio DJ's but its worth following up.... please post what you find out...


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: C0ma on June 09, 2004, 11:59:27 AM
I forgot to add that I have an Email out to this DJ, If i get a reply I'll cut and paste it here




Edit: This is also from the same DJ posted on the WAAF website:

There's apparently been some confusion.

Last week, several websites reported that G n'R keyboardist Dizzy Reed would be on the show Friday the 4th. Fact is...No interview was ever set up. I received an e-mail asking if I was interested in having him on. His band Hookers n' Blow were scheduled to play in town that weekend. Before we could ever set anything up, Blabbermouth reported it as fact, and it just was not the case. I'm bummed that so many people expected it to happen and it didn't. Unless you see it here, or I say it on the air, it doesn't happen. Sorry to disappoint. Maybe sometime in the future we'll get an opportunity to find out what's up with G n'R. I'm just as interested as you are...


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: SunKing278 on June 09, 2004, 12:26:56 PM
I'm in the Boston area, but I very rarely listen to WAAF (too much nu metal), so I really have no idea what this is about.  


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: C0ma on June 09, 2004, 01:17:23 PM
reply from the DJ:

From: "Paul Marshall" <neanderpaul@waaf.com>
To: br0wnstone@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Guns N' Roses durring yesterdays show??
     
 


It was alledgedly "The Blues"
 
Sounded like a board recording.
 
"Neander" Paul Marshall
Afternoons/Super Genius
WAAF -Boston
www.waaf.com



Apparenty Bostons music fans view of "The Blues" is nt wuite as high as on this board because from what I heard......People tore the song apart.....It was stopped durring the songs because of fan requests




 


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: AxlGunner on June 09, 2004, 01:24:05 PM
reply from the DJ:

From: "Paul Marshall" <neanderpaul@waaf.com>
To: br0wnstone@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Guns N' Roses durring yesterdays show??
     
 


It was alledgedly "The Blues"
 
Sounded like a board recording.
 
"Neander" Paul Marshall
Afternoons/Super Genius
WAAF -Boston
www.waaf.com



Apparenty Bostons music fans view of "The Blues" is nt wuite as high as on this board because from what I heard......People tore the song apart.....It was stopped durring the songs because of fan requests



It's ok, I'm sure they were all slash fans.  :hihi:


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: Neemo on June 09, 2004, 01:26:20 PM
WOW! that's crazy? and what is a board recording?

What kind of listeners are on WAAF? Like punk and alternative fans. Or like rock and roll fans. that could explain the bad listener response.


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: C0ma on June 09, 2004, 01:32:06 PM
got another reply...it turns out it was from the Boston Show


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: AxlGunner on June 09, 2004, 01:33:45 PM
WOW! that's crazy? and what is a board recording?

What kind of listeners are on WAAF? Like punk and alternative fans. Or like rock and roll fans. that could explain the bad listener response.

i assume board recording is short for soundboard recording, meaning its probably one of the higher-end bootlegs from the past tour.

I'm not too familiar with WAAF, but I think its one of those generic rock stations, kinda like krock, except its in boston.


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: Neemo on June 09, 2004, 01:40:13 PM
thanks for the info (board recording)

Besides, what kind of station stops a song in the middle?  I've never heard of anything like that before. Could it have been stopped because the quality of the track was super shitty? Weird!!!


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr on June 09, 2004, 03:08:05 PM
I think its bullshit!!! Why now, all of a sudden, would they play one of New GN'R's songs. If anything they would have played it while they were on tour in 2002. I don't think any radio station would stop a song in the midde for any reason, unless it started skipping. I guess we have another Eddie Trunk on our hands.


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: Axl_owns_dexter on June 09, 2004, 03:14:13 PM
So they bashed both songs?  I though they only bashed madagascar from the Vma's?


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: Skeba on June 09, 2004, 03:25:19 PM
How fast would a guy have to be to listen to a song, judge that he doesn't like it, then start hating it so much that he just has to call the station instead of changing the channel, dial the number, get on phone with the people in charge, and then get the guy to stop playing the song he had specifically chosen... That's quick.


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: Axl_owns_dexter on June 09, 2004, 03:33:02 PM
Lol, ya good point.


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: Mikkamakka on June 09, 2004, 03:37:42 PM
How fast would a guy have to be to listen to a song, judge that he doesn't like it, then start hating it so much that he just has to call the station instead of changing the channel, dial the number, get on phone with the people in charge, and then get the guy to stop playing the song he had specifically chosen... That's quick.

Totally agree. The whole story is unreal.


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: MadmanDan on June 09, 2004, 03:50:46 PM
Total bullshit!


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: Buritoking on June 09, 2004, 04:12:05 PM
sounds like WAAF is on the VR payroll! haha..


seriously though that's stupid, since they could get in alot of trouble for playing it, I highly doubt they would, and I doubt even more they would get  such a listener response in the chorus of 5 minutes...



Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: starchild_666 on June 09, 2004, 05:17:39 PM
and I believe this  :hihi:


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: C0ma on June 09, 2004, 05:24:25 PM
I definately happened.....I have now heard from a few people who heard it. It turns out they asked a few times before playing it for people to call with there opinion......they were bashing his voice before the song ever hit the air.......and to answer hey_axl they bashed both songs not just Madagascar. They then played "Falling to Pieces".....after that song they made a comment about how the best thing to come out of VR is the chance to not have to listen to Axl........then they said if this is what Axl's been working on all these years that he should never release the new album


edit: it is also not uncommon for WAAF to stop playing a song.....they do a fundraiser evry year where people call in and pat for a song (regardless of format). I could pay $25 to hear Sweet Caroline, and if you want it to stop you have to pay atleats $26......they do shit like that at WAAF all of the time.


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr on June 09, 2004, 05:40:47 PM
No they dont...I have never heard of this and I live in that area. This is total bullshit. These songs have been around since 2002 and people from the station went to the show in Boston in 2002 and said it was awesome. They were only mad cause he came on close to 11. They could have played these songs a long time ago and they never did. Plus, who the fuck would pay 25 fucking dollars to play one god damn song, and then play 26 extra fucking bucks to take it off. Give me a fuckin break. This is total fuckin bullshit. It pisses me off.


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: C0ma on June 09, 2004, 05:54:20 PM
They do it every year for the Walk for Hunger while Hill-Man and LB are walking all day the DJ's do this fundraiser.......I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll actually find this on WAFF.com.

And who are these people at AAF who said that the show was awsome.......Hill man tore the show apart, Carrie tore the Show apart.......Eddie Webb (who was theer at the time (and was acctully a GnR roadie in the 90's)) tore it apart.........who were the DJ's who liked it????


Edit: hey asshole, if you live in the area why don't you give him a call right now.....he's on for another hour


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: SLCPUNK on June 09, 2004, 06:18:57 PM
Well the probably had the whole thing formated out anyway.

Play it half way, then turn it off, claiming the complaints were so harsh they just had to...It's a show afterall, and they are trying to create something entertaining. It's an easy way to bash Axl, stir up some hoopla and then play VR.

Probably happened.

Who cares.


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on June 09, 2004, 08:02:58 PM
They did this before with the boston show in 2002, they had all negative calls about the show, and I tried calling in and so did my friend who went to the show and we never got on the air. Go figure.

About this song, the people were bashing Axls voice from the VMAs not bashed on the song they played since they were bashing him before the song even started.

But dont forget most people have not heard Axls new higher voice and It seems they did not like it.

Anyways this will explain a lot.
Scroll down

http://waaf.com/jocks/paul/


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on June 09, 2004, 08:27:52 PM
BS! No matter how many people hate Axl now, there's no way in hell that so many people could call in and complain that they have to stop the song mid-way, especially 'The Blues'. I'll never believe it...


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on June 09, 2004, 08:32:40 PM
BS! No matter how many people hate Axl now, there's no way in hell that so many people could call in and complain that they have to stop the song mid-way, especially 'The Blues'. I'll never believe it...

I was at the boston show and most people around me were into the song and it got a good ovation after it.
So I think they just took the callers that did not like the song and put them on the air.  So how far did they get into the song?


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: C0ma on June 09, 2004, 11:46:50 PM
So how far did they get into the song?

Fromhow I heard the DJ describe it after the fact, and the way my friend described it...the blues made it in just over 1 minute.

Quote
About this song, the people were bashing Axls voice from the VMAs not bashed on the song they played since they were bashing him before the song even started.

They were bashing the song........they made a comment about how they can't belive that after 8 years of writing, this is the shit he came up with.


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on June 10, 2004, 12:07:17 AM
So they can judge a song on the first minute of hearing it?
There is no doubt it was set up to make fun of Axl and to promote VR.

The first minute of the blues is not even the first verse, go figure.
Plus axl sounds his best during the first minute of the song, so something is fishy.


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: TyRod Tulip on June 10, 2004, 02:13:23 PM
I can confirm, as a fact, that WAAF did play part of The Blues and Maddy on the air the other day.  I had two seperate friends tell me about hearing it (neither are GNR fans).  Both of their stories were identical.

WAAF played part of The Blues from the Boston show and got a very poor response.  My friennds said it sound so bad that he could hardly stand it, and all the callers that they let through asked them to never play that again.  They then played Maddy which sounded better, but the djs criticized Axl saying that if this is the quality of song that takes 10 years to make then Axl should just stay in his hole.

There was one caller that was insistent on them playing Maddy again.  Was that you Dave?   :hihi:

The djs then played Slither and made some reference to them being the real deal and that was it.


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on June 10, 2004, 02:24:09 PM
No it was not me, i was at work when this happened.
So I missed it.  
Did  you ask your frined how maddy sounded on the radio? Was it any better?
How much did they play of it?

Btw it amazes me that people would bash maddy or the blues yet love shit like I believe in a thing called love.  You can say axl sounds terrible all you want from the blues boston (even tho I think he sounds great) but he is still not nearly as bad as the guy from the darkness.  


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: TyRod Tulip on June 10, 2004, 02:41:11 PM
My friends said that the sound qualitty in Maddy was much better than the Blues.  And I'm not sure how you can judge the qulity of a song based on one listen let alone one listen of just the first minute of a bootleg (soundboard or w/e).

I'm not sure how much of Maddy was played, I'll have to ask.  But I get the feeling that the djs were out to try to get a laugh at Axl's expense.  He will be a very easy target when his material surfaces.  It will have to be an incredible masterpiece to overcome this type of thing.  Even if it is incredible, there will be a very large group of people that will criticize him and his material without listening to it and criticizing it on its merits.  Unfortunately Axl created this obstacle by 1) using the name GNR and 2) taking so long to release the album.  He has so much more to overcome than most artists because of this (an of course because of history of being an asshole).

-TyRod-


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on June 10, 2004, 02:46:24 PM
Yeah like I said before, I am sure the DJ just wanted people to call in and bash axl, because its funny he had people bashing the song a minute after it hit the air.

Like I also said in other threads, it does not matter how good this album is some people are still going to bash axl.  Atleast you said one called asked them to play maddy again, I wonder how many other callers liked the song but they just did not let on the air


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on June 13, 2004, 02:34:36 AM
yet love shit like I believe in a thing called love.  You can say axl sounds terrible all you want from the blues boston (even tho I think he sounds great) but he is still not nearly as bad as the guy from the darkness.  


The Darkness Album is pretty good. A throw back to the 70's sound of the rock. He isnt that bad of a singer. I think people should concentrate on People like Fred Durst voice. He runs it through a computer and it still sounds like SHIT. These listens can then call in and say Axl cant sing?  

If you take a bad bootleg that was recorded poorly you can make anyone sound horrible. Just let the DJ bash GnR because they like VR. I like VR but I dont have to Bash Axl to like them.


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: estranged.1098 on June 13, 2004, 03:43:22 AM
This guy should have his ass sued for playing illegal bootlegs on the air.


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on June 13, 2004, 03:34:28 PM
This guy should have his ass sued for playing illegal bootlegs on the air.


IF its live can they be sued? Are live songs copyright protected?


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: estranged.1098 on June 13, 2004, 04:36:37 PM
Of course they are copyright protected.


Title: Re:WAAF (Boston) DJ claims to have played a new studio track
Post by: SlashFan on June 14, 2004, 01:54:32 AM
Of course they are copyright protected.




A song is copyright protected after the song is played live or recorded on an album,so I guess the songs were protected,the radio station should be sued