Here Today... Gone To Hell!

What the heck is going on with this? This can't be possibly be true. Does the club owner realize his club will be trashed if it is just a cover band?


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=495&ncid=762&e=4&u=/ap/20050421/ap_en_mu/music_minute_no_guns_show

Entertainment - AP Music
 
 
Georgia Club Hopes for Guns N' Roses Show

22 minutes ago   Entertainment - AP Music
 

By JANET MORRISSEY, For The Associated Press

Guns N' Roses fans nationwide started buzzing recently when Atlanta radio station 96Rock began advertising that the reclusive Axl Rose would be performing at a club in Cartersville, Ga., on Friday.

   

Even more exciting: Rose was said to be teaming up with former bandmate and songwriting partner Izzy Stradlin. The promo on the rock station's website promised a "three-hour set," with the $20 tickets limited to one per customer.


But it appears there will be no show. "Axl will not be there," GNR manager Merck Mercuriadis told The Associated Press.


Why not? The answer was unclear Thursday.


The radio station's program director, Jeff McMurray, initially stood by his promotion. He told AP he had seen contracts signed by Rose and Stradlin to appear at Coyotes, capacity 2,000. While he admits it seemed odd that a band of GNR's stature would play such a small venue, McMurray said it's not an unusual move for big-name bands. He recalled U2 and REM playing the Hurricane, a tiny club in Kansas City, a number of years ago.


But after further investigation, McMurray backtracked. "Although we have contracts stating that they'll be there, evidently (the contracts) are not from Axl Rose," he said.


The radio station promotions were pulled ? but the club continued to promote the gig. On Thursday morning, a voicemail on the Coyotes' phone still said GNR was coming to town.


"I sent off a certified check. It was a legitimate booking agency," Coyotes manager Pete Grim said. "I had asked (the agency) several questions about the status of Guns N' Roses because I do know that Velvet Revolver is out and lots of the members from Guns N' Roses went there. But he assured me it wasn't the Velvet Revolver people ? it was actually Rose and other original members."


Grim said he dealt with a booking agency called Bryant Entertainment. AP could not locate a phone number for the company. Strangely, the radio station would not provide a number. Requests to the radio station and club to pass on messages to the booker yielded no results.


The gig would have marked the first time that Rose ? the Howard Hughes of rock ? had performed publicly since promoter Clear Channel pulled the plug on his comeback tour in 2002.


The original GNR lineup imploded in the 1990s over egos and disputes over musical direction, leaving only Rose and keyboard player Dizzy Reed to continue under the GNR name. Partway through the comeback tour, Rose failed to show up for a gig in Philadelphia, causing riots, which led to the tour's demise.


Rose and his much-hyped album, "Chinese Democracy," which is 10 years in the making, have not been heard from since.



AP article added. It is definitely a hoax. Do not get your hopes up. /Will

This is all new to me. Can you fill me in?

They are promoting guns n roses will be there this Friday.

Wow. I`m down in Florida and a month or so ago I heard some promotion on the radio regarding a GNR cover band. Think they were called Appetite for Destruction. Wonder if its the same guys?

To promote a cover band as the actual GNR is gonna come back & bite that guy in the ass HARD.

I would think so too, but here is the number - 770-386-2337

record the message and post it as a link so we can hear  :P

Here's a synopsis of what I heard:
"Thank you for calling Coyote's...the home of Guns N' Roses!" Then he goes on to say twice that Guns N' Roses will be there this Friday. Tells how to get tickets, how to get to the bar. Ends the call with an enthusastic "GUNS N' ROSES" this Friday!!!

The fact that he says the "home of Guns N' Roses" makes me weary, as it's probably a shitty local cover band or something.

wouldn't there be some legal ramifications? As false advertisement or from GNR themselves?

This may be such small potatoes that management aren't even going to bother.
Other than that, I have no idea why they wouldn't do anything about this?

If GnR were really going to come there, don't u think the recording would have said the name "Axl Rose" at least?

I'm sure word has spread to management by now I hope.  Maybe they are just playing videos... I guess we will see Friday night. Anyone in Atlanta willing to go?

Management did say this club didn't have any contact wiht anyone remotely connected to GN'R. It is almost certainly an hoax (i.e: supposed IRS premiere on a NY radio last week - people like to play with GN'R fans).

but wouldn't management step in and tell this place to stop promoting GNR? I smell a riot if it is a hoax or a lynching of the club owner!

thier legal 'out' or escuse MAYbe that whoever is playing (we'll assume LIVE) is named Gunz and Rozes or something else that only SOUNDS like Guns N' Roses...
have they advertised this in any form of print using "Guns N' Roses"?

The fact that management are aware of this and have been for several weeks now, yet have said nothing to the club about the legal ramifications is quite strange. mike91 over at mygnr has gone to the club and spoke to the manager (or owner I can't remember which) who is quite confident that GNR will show and says he's got a contract or something along those lines. The club seriously believes GNR will be there. I feel that they are not the ones scamming the fans, but rather someone is scamming them. Or maybe Axl and co. will show up, stranger things have happened. We'll just have to wait until Friday night to find out, unless management or the club makes some kind of announcement earlier than that. Most likely situation (in my mind) is that someone is screwing with the club, but to what purpose I don't know.

P.S. They have fliers and vouchers printed up with "Guns N' Roses" on them, the actual name not some goofy take on it. Someone over at mygnr claimed to have seen them.

hmm..  well, at this point they should be checking out the promoter or whoever they are dealing with...
especially as they now have now likely been told that management has said what they've said (that Guns N' Roses is NOT going to be there)


ah... thanks for the reply  : ok:

ya really gotta wonder then what the hell is up with this whole deal  ???

Someone at My GNR (or maybe it was a different board) posted an actual ticket that said Guns N Roses on it.

If for some strange reason this isn`t bs, it would be just awesome for GNR to come out of the woodwork and do a club show. Maybe that is why it isn`t heavily promoted, so 10,000 people don`t show up. Yeah, I might be reaching on this one but when you`ve been a fan for this long ya gotta reach for somethin`.

craigers over at mygnr posted the flyer and ticket...

(http://img17.echo.cx/img17/4241/flyer3jb.jpg)

(http://img17.echo.cx/img17/9185/ticket5yl.jpg)

we need a lawsuit here

no offense to anyone on the board

but i find nothing lamer than a cover/tribute bands

if u are a hobby musician and u enjoy it, thats great but i find tribute bands sorta sad and pathetic

like im gonna pretend to be some guy im not.

like in the movie "rock star"

id rather fail as myself than succeed as someone else.

sue these bastards for using GNR to sell tickets and i hope people tear the damn place down.

i guess it would be axl's fault if the club got rioted. ::)

lol!
wonder if that is whoever's plan
to sell the tickets and then the night of to announce that Axl didn't show up? :o

if this place were in Philly the place would likely be LEVELED!

How blown away will the world be if GnR really shows up on Friday.

Man, the mind boggles!!!!!

 :crying:
don't get me thinking about this too much

its 10+ hour drive from south florida and if i start thinking this... I'll be tempted... oh.. so... tempted  :nervous:

got this from google (cached)
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:eYyjPdiVLHYJ:www.96rock.com/concerts.html+cartersville+GA+Guns+N+Roses&hl=en


Guns n' Roses
Guns n' Roses will be performing live at Coyotes in Cartersville on Friday April 22nd. Tickets are $20 a piece in advance and are only available to Coyotes customers and 96rock winners! Coyotes customers can pick up tickets at the club?s box office both Friday?s before the show, Friday 4/8 & Friday 4/15. Tickets are available one ticket per person at the box office. Only a limited number of tickets will be released each Friday.
 
Coyotes is located at :
245 S. Tennessee St
Cartersville, GA 30120
(770) 386-BEER
 
Guns & Roses are playing a 3 hour set from 9p-12midnight! Doors are at 6pm and the show is 21+ ONLY.

Exactly - I'm down here in South Florida, too - and I'm 1/2 tempted to hop a plane to Atlanta on Friday just for the hell of it.  Heck, its not like there isn't other stuff to do in Atlanta, regardless.  :)

(Masquerade is a killer club - that place uber-rocks.. plus, its full of FREAKS which is always a plus)

-darknemus

Nice of them to state on the "ticket": NO REFUNDS * NO EXCHANGES

I hope whoever is behind this gets taken care of.





/jarmo

I think the fact that 96Rock- a big station in Atlanta was advertising it gives it some credibility.

I think its going to happen.

Also Jarmo, thats pretty standard language on tickets here in the U.S.

I believe!!!  :beer:

 :nervous: :crying:

THREE HOURS!
unadvertised warm up gig?!?

all right WTF is going on?   >:(

Hey darknemus, Why do I suspect your handywork in this fake shit?
Or did you piss someone off who's trying to make it look like you're behind this shit?

Didn't this originally start off as an Axl n' Izzy show with Axl's g/f supposedly living in Atlanta? ?Don't you have access to her fridge? ?Maybe you could check it out for us and see if she posted the flyer next to Beta's grocery list.

this is fucked up.. that club should be RIOTED!!! :):):):):)

Yeah, I'm in cahoots with the club owner of some podunk place in Atlanta.  That's it.  Damn, I certainly do get around.

-darknemus

I know, but nice to be reminded of that.... Especially when there's no GN'R playing there.





/jarmo

This place is 45 minutes outside of Atlanta. So, if its a no-show there is zero else to do in Catersville, GA. I live 30 minutes away and I will go just in case. I flew out to Vegas to see them so  can drive 30 minutes to see if this is real.
If ya'll remember AXl is banned from Atlanta....when they opened for Motley Crue in 1988, AXL got arrested for attacking a security member...bottom line... is this bar is way out of Atlanta and the biggest band that has ever been there is... maybe a cover band of Drivin n Cryin.
I shall report back... : ok:

This was posted by bigboss over at Sp1at on April 8, 2005

Axl/Izzy concert confirmed as a hoax
8 April 2005

The Atlanta based radio station 96 Rock has now confirmed to Sp1at that their advertised Cartersville is not going to happen.

As reported earlier, 96 Rock confirmed to Sp1at that Axl Rose and Izzy Stradlin were to perform at the Coyote Club in Cartersville, Atlanta on 22 April 2005

There is nothing at www.96rock.com

Shouldn't everybody be trying to match Dizzy's, Tommy's, Rcihard's schedule with this Friday?

What for?




/jarmo

Exactly what part of? IT'S FAKE!!! don't you understand?

If there wasn't anything to this, management would have stopped it dead in it's tracks. There's no question, they're promoting *THE* Guns N' Roses, not a cover band. If this was just a PR stunt, Sanc. would've already done something serious about this, it's false advertising, but instead, Merck's sent second-hand info "emphasizing that GNR/AXL will *NOT* be there". We shall wait and see...

To see if they have an open date in their schedules.
If u call the bar 770-386-2337 the gentleman is plainly saying GUNS N ROSES will be there Friday and tickets are still on sale. I will go see Tuesday.

 20 dollars?  Come on.  I remeber Axl talking at the Joint shows how he had to charge over one hundred dollars because of the small venue and short notice.  I highly doubt a small Atlanta club would sell twenty dollar tickets.

it's not nice to yell at people.

glad to see management is putting its foot down and telling the club to stop promoting these tickets, because they dont want to see all those local atlanta folk buying tickets for a false show.

oh wait, all management has done is tell the radio to stop promoting the show and posting a message through an intermediary on a message board.

i'm sure all those people who live near the bar and don't follow gnr online but have seen the flyers for the show but still have an interest in seeing gnr play should know better. it's theyre fault for not knowing the club is obviously lying. cuz everyone buying tickets is a hardcore fan, right?

what part of THE CLUB IS STILL USING THE GUNS N ROSES NAME TO DEFRAUD PEOPLE AND NOTHING IS BEING DONE ABOUT IT!!!! don't you understand?

you and jarmo don't seem very concerned. But some people are. because there are some people who havent seen the tiny message sanctuary has passed on through an intermediary on an online fan board and will therefore buy tickets to this show anyway.

Yea, we paid 150 each.

If it were real I'd change the oil and drive my ass up there in a heartbeat though.....

just because we have not heard any response from axl's legal team doesn't mean that they haven't or aren't doing anything about this false event.

if i am going to believe in anything, it'll be axl's legal team doing something about this by 5pm on april 22, 2005.

Here is my question...Why would some Country/Rock bar located 50 miles north of Atlanta promote a band that hasn't done shit in 10 yrs? And its not like Atlanta is a hotbed for GnR. They havent been to town since 1988. Nobody talks about them on the radio...around here you may hear SCOM or WTTJ once or twice a week on the radio. This town loves Hip-Hop or whatever that crap is called today.
The radio station said, they have seen a copy of the contracts. The bar is promoting it on the phone line etc. If anything Gnr is the last band you pick to get in a legal scrap with....
I may not believe they are coming ....I just can see the benefit of claiming GNR is coming if they are not.

Seems like april 22 is open on everyone's calender. In fact, they all seem to have enough to to leave their last show and drive to georgia.
Shouldn't Mysterion be putting this rumor to bed? He usually speaks up by now?

Seriously people, quit trying to figure out ways that it is not a hoax. First and most importantly, why would GN'R play some shitty ass club in atlanta?  which is on the other side of the country, if they wanted to do some small club gig, don't you think they have thousands of clubs in the hollywood area?? This rumor would actually have been credible except for the fact that it is supposedly going to happen in atlanta.? That just doesn't make much sense at all, unless they are using the twirl around until you get really dizzy and then pick a spot on the map method of booking gigs.?

yeah i see there its not there ...  but unless someone at google likes messing with GN'R fans...  the link posted earlier in this thread did take you to a previously cached version of a page at 96rock.com that DID have a the print promo bit just like the SonofAGun posted.  The page that came up had the classic GN'R logo.  apparently they have had to take it down.  chances are the phone message at the club will also soon be discontinued.

 
Yeah, and GNR is playing at my house on Saturday night. ::)


Somebody please lock this thread.

First the bar Manager stated it was Axl and Izzy as orininal members. Thats your first hint that its fake!!
Second Merck has talked to the Manager and apperently the manager doesn't get it.
Third Dizzy has a show of his own that night!
I think the manager is being messed with! And someone is going to pay!! I was tempted to hop on a plane just to see what transpires, either way. Sounds like someone on the boards will check it out down there!!

What time should we all be at your house? :rofl:


Yes, someone please lock this thread.? This Atlanta show was never was going to happen in the first place and I just love how certain posters on here try and make a hoax into something real.? ?::)

Concerned about what?

I've said it looks like a fake to me.

As Gypsy and Eva pointed out, the radio statition stopped promoting the show already.

I also mentioned that I hope the people doing this gets dealt with.

What I'm not "concerned" about, is the people on this board who still think GN'R are actually playing some bar in GA and are trying to convince the rest of us.



/jarmo

"lol!
wonder if that is whoever's plan
to sell the tickets and then the night of to announce that Axl didn't show up 

if this place were in Philly the place would likely be LEVELED!"

LOL! either that...or just plain empty...it would be the fans turn to get "ill" at that point, Ha! :hihi:

did you even read the last sentence of mine that you quoted? i'm going to give you a second to read it now before i continue, because i think it answers your question directly.... go on, read it....





done? ok i'll continue now.

you know full well that merck could get the club to stop promoting the show in about 5 minutes if he wanted to. what you should be concerned about is that there are many people, espoecially those in the atlanta area near the club, who never read these message boards and thus don't know that the show is a fake, yet they will spend their time and money to go see this show because they see the flyer or hear about it through word of mouth.

sooooo, while you say you hope the people doing this get dealt with, what you DON'T say is that you hope management gets off their asses and forces the club to stop promoting this show and ripping off innocent gnr fans who have not stumbled across a hard-to-find message by sanctuary that says the show won't happen.

in my mind, that is alot more damaging than some people on a message board who think a show will happen.

Watch ther be a riot and this guy who is promoting this loses his bar.

I was kinda hopeful at first, but when the radio station stops promoting it and Dizzy has a gig somewhere wlse the same night that proves this is bs.

How this place is getting away with this is beyond me.

I can sort of understand if the bar owner is really stupid and thinks GNR will really be there, after all this is in the backwoods of Georgia. If it turns out to be a cover band and fans really get duped, all hell will break loose.

What exactly do you think I meant? Maybe you have some conspiracy theory about what I really meant?

I hope somebody (management, lawyers, police, FBI, the president, UN or Batman) does something about it so it won't happen again.

Clear enough for you?

I'm sure if there was a cease and desist letter, some of you would claim it's fake and the show was still gonna happen....



/jarmo

Aww Jarmo,

You left out Spiderman.  DARKNEMUS will tell you that only spiderman can save the day :rofl:

here is what you say: i hope these guys are sued or arrested (at some point) for promoting a fake show.

here is what i am saying: i hope management acts NOW to stop the club from promoting this show and preventing all those people who live in atlanta and are going to the show from actually spending their time and money.

do you see the difference? i'm actually worried about those people who still think there is a show (because they haven't heard otherwise). this is for a few reasons. first, the gnr name is being used to defraud people of their valuable time and money. this isn't right. second, people may come away thinking that gnr ditched the show at the last minute- which is horribly bad PR for the band. third, if there is no show there may be a riot, violence, etc.

hence, management needs to act now to stop the club from promoting the show. tell me you agree with this and i'll stop this discussion.

Whoa, if Batman gets involved, that would be so wicked cool. ?Because whereever there's Batman, Catwoman can't be far behind. ?Pfeifferific!

You mentioned the President and the FBI - how could you possibly leave out the IRS? ?Although I commend you for not going for the obvious joke there.

By the way, just to clarify - in case your veiled "people who try to convince others this show is going to happen" comments were directed, possibly, towards me. ?*I* don't think the show is happening. ?I've said so since my first post on the matter - I'm simply fascinated by the entire situation. ?What I *DO* believe, though, is that the club thinks its happening. ?So, yes, I'm curious as to why. ?I seriously hope no one gets hurt Friday night - because this has a high chaos potential written all over it.

Oh yeah, and to the Spidey commenter - yes, Spidey would run roughshod all over Batman's butt :)

-darknemus

Oh my God.

Where did I something that disagreed with that? For all we know, they might already be working on it.

You seem very upset about it. But I do remember this other "show" in Budapest where they sold tickets as well. Were you this upset over that as well? Or are you more upset about my choice of words?  :P


What's this "discussion" about anyway? My choice of words?

You honestly think that I think it's a cool thing of this bar to do? That somehow I think everybody should be allowed to sell GN'R tickets because GN'R are supposed to play a three hour show at their bar?



/jarmo

Batman's busy that night! :)

Oh, and dark...Bats would wipe the floor with Spidey....as long as he had time to prepare! :)

Pilferk:

Your posts are usually very well researched, logical, and well-argued.  This has been true fotr as long as I've been reading the board, which is to say 5-6 years.  Facts you've presented have been accurate, and, when you presented an opinion different from mine, your effective and thoughtful discussion has made me reflect upon my own assumptions and opinions, and reconsider them.
For the first time, though, I feel you are ignoring obvious evidence and not letting real facts into your analysis.  For once, you are leaning entirely on preconceived notions and emotion when making a call, and I frankly feel this to be not only irresponsible, but out of character.
Are there personal issues affecting your judgement?  Is everything OK up there in my home state?  Has the marmite gone to your brain?
Really, Pilf!  You should consider statements of this magnitude carefully before posting.
Spider-Man would leave Batman as a whimpering pile of guano!  The facts speak for themselves.  Really. :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

/Mike

Ok, I think we covered the superheroes for now.


For those of you who missed it:

GN'R are not scheduled to play some bar in Georgia!



/jarmo

Heh. That voice recording at the telephone number is funny.

This Friday "will they or won't they" question is the best Guns news since IRS and worth paying attention to. Why everyone is getting bent out of shape about it is silly.

Maybe 96 Rock stopped promoting it because tickets arent available any longer ?  :rofl:

good, i'm glad you agree with me that management should be working to stop the club from promoting the show and selling tickets as soon as feasibly possible.  : ok:

it's been over a week since they learned about it, so i hope they are well on their way to dialing the club's phone number. if they need help, tell them i can give them the club's phone number. maybe they misplaced it. :) 



ps- the budapest hoax was also a tragedy. but management didn't wait until the day before the concert to get the guy to stop selling tickets.

Something is very fishy with this whole deal.  ???

If this club owner has a half a brain he would no not to sell tickets for this false advertised show and should also realize he has a potential riot on his hands if he stands up tells eveyone that GNR will not be there. Management needs to cut this thing off at the head asap or how about AXL make a freaking announcement to the public for once on the progress of CD.

Yeah this is a bit unfair, caus fans will go to this "show". No offense to Merck but the only one that fans will trust is Axl, he should release a short statement that they will not be there.

We might think they should do more than what it appears has been done, but I still think they know what they doing. After all, they're the management company and we're not. If they think enough has been done already, then I guess they have a reason for that. I think the Budapest hoax was more spread and more elaborate. They had printed out posters and put them up all over town.


It's unfortunate that fans get fooled by hoaxes like these.


If GN'R were to play a surprise show somewhere, I suspect it would be mentioned in more places than a voice recording on the bar's phone.




/jarmo

Dude, you are retarded.? Axl should sit on his ass and do NOTHING.? He has a management team to take care of this kind of thing.? And for all we know, management has done their part.? Why give the fruitcakes at this RANDOM bar any publicity?

Of course GNR management would want to take care of the best interest of the fans, but they shouldn't have to protect a bunch of morons showing up to a show that doesn't exist.

Since the article in The New York Times has come out strange things are happening.That,my friends,in the world of money has a name - that's called market research!And maybe one of the reasons that no one in managment doesn't give a fuck about this is that they are in this together!Than,again,I might be wrong...

you assume that the people going to the show all read gnr message boards, because that is the only place you will find mention of management saying the show isnt true. actually, even then you really have to search to find where management said the show isnt happening.

the problem is that many people who live near atlanta or coyote's may not have read those obscure statements by management. they will therefore probably try to go to the show anyway, having heard it on the radio, through the bar's flyers, or by word of mouth.

that is why, in my opinion, management needs to protect these "morons" as you call them who are gnr fans and will get screwed by this bar. why management has not done this yet is beyond me.

in budapest, only about 70 people actually bought tickets. yet they clamped down on it fast. here, who knows how many people will buy tickets. especially since there are fliers around too.

A formal announcement to the press would be nice. I am sure more than 70 people bought tickets to the show. If they announced something in Tulsa, Ok where I am from on the radio that GNR is going to play the Cains' Ballroom Tulsa would be going nuts right now. We heard from management when the New York Times article appeared. Something just isn't right here people.  ???

I disagree- IMO, management is in place to protect the band financially.  If someone is making money by using the GNR name, management WILL put a stop to it.  But as far as management releasing a statement, let alone Axl himself, is ridiculous.  Why give that shitty bar any free publicity?  What keeps me from making flyers and posting the all over town?  or anyone else?  IPersonally, I might be more inclined if I know GNR management would release an official statement with my Bar's name or location in it. 

where do you draw the line of when management will step in a release statements discounting these "fake" shows?

i think you're getting confused. i don't think management or axl needs to make an official announcement. i think they need to threaten to sue the bar for using the gnr name. this can all be done behind closed doors, and in the past management has been able to do this kind of stuff very quickly. it has now been over 10 days since they learned of this false promotion, yet the bar keeps it up. i hope something happens by friday.

edit: also, this may not be just the bar's fault. they seem to think there is actually gonna be a show. they signed a contract with SOMEONE. that means some promoter is falsely making money by pretending to represent guns n roses. this whole situation is a mess, and some people need to be told to stop before this gets out of hand, swiftly and forcefully.

Let's avoid this kind of comments (see the board rules), thanks.

As for the "show", no one here actually believes GN'R will play right? It's been a fake since the beginning. Probably just a hoax to get a few bucks from some people. Management already said no one remotely connected to GN'R ever contacted this club. I think that's pretty clear. GN'R will not be there. If they would, they would promote a helluva lot more than that, and it probably would be in Las Vegas or Los Angeles.

the owner of that bar deserves a HUGE lawsuit.  :rant:

Someone deserves a huge lawsuit for this! Why would the radio station promote it for a short period of time w/o verifiying that it was indeed true. No matter what anyone says... this is strange.

the radio said they were shown a copy of the contract and thought it was legit.

only after management called did they agree to stop promoting the show.

Interesting... a supposedly legit contract.  :o

this is getting odder by the moment.

First of all, the bar is in Cartersville in North Georgia. Second of all, it is a second rate redneck club! No way in hell. I can't believe this thread is still going. Third, the guys at 96 rock wouldn't know a legitimate contract if it jumped up and bit them in the ass!? :hihi:

It's not gonna happen, but...

I wonder what the owner'd say, if GN'R enter the place on Friday and be like "Here we are, where's the stage?"

LOL...

Maybe it is a second rate redneck club in the middle of no where, but how are people like myself that do not live in Georgia supposed to know that? Hell for all I know it is the biggest club in Atlanta. Management is supposedly aware of this false/or not false advertisement. I guess we will find out Friday night. If it turns out to be a hoax the club owner needs to be sued pronto! Is anyone on the board from Atlanta?

the poster above you lives in atlanta.

Dude you are a retard - I'm just saying the the management or the band, who ever should be able to stop the promotion and make the Club put up posters/change the phone message etc. etc.  that it really isn't Guns N Roses.

But hey thanks for your smart comments.

Do people not read threads?

Refer to Wills comment on the previous page terozz.

Jeeshhh.

---

This is not happening people. Hello? GNR fans? I know we like to use our Delusions every now and again but this is ridiculous! Management have stated so, seems the club has been had over by a conman with a fake contract and so has the radio station.



How long will this go on?

Superman got left out.  ;D  Sorry, I had to. Anyway, this whole thing seems very strange. I know the radio station isn't promting the show anymore, and the way tickets were being sold seemed odd as well. The whole fact that the Guns N' Roses name is being used at all without any consequences as of yet makes no sense whatsoever. But it is only Tuesday. I would hope that this club realizes what will happen Friday night if they don't say something before then. Someone should find out if the club owner has recently taken an insurance policy out on the club. Maybe he wants it to get destroyed.  :rofl: Seriously, I don't want anyone getting hurt. I was in the riot in Philly. It wasn't fun.

pot, meet kettle.

if you happened to read this thread, you'd know that just about everyone says that axl won't show up. that's not the issue being debated. we are just curious as to why the club continues to promote the show. i don't understand it, nor do a bunch of other people. it can have some bad consequences if people show up expecting a gnr show and it doesnt happen.

My" reading of threads" quote was aimed at  terozz as he called another poster a retard about three posts after Will stated the rules about name calling.

Hence the reason i used....

---

Underneath.

The other part was a rant because i dont like the fact that many GNR fans get bawled over by this sort of crap that seems to filter through on a weekly basis. (I didnt however make that clear)

We are constantly filled with false hope and optimism and it saddens me when i see people reacting excitedly to this sort of news, it saddens me because ive been there and ive felt what it feels like.
Now i just get on with my life...as all the others will learn too. Also i try to disway the false hope and optimism. As you may of seen.

For what its worth Axlgunner, right back in the day, i remember conversing with you about something or other when i first joined (maybe Faith No More, maybe not??) , your a good guy and on this thread, your points and opinions have been lapped up by myself as you speak with an intelligence i admire!

Like most other threads as well, i agree with you.

I think management should so something a little stronger to disway the optimism being created by this club/owner/conman whatever....cus i hate seeing Guns fans screwed, unless of course they are female and its me doing the screwing! ;)

aight well thanks for the compliments. i know you've been around forever too. wasn't trying to start anything, just was getting frustrated by some of those people who yell at others in this thread about how everyone posting in this thread is dumb because this thing is clearly fake. we know that- its preaching to the choir.

anyway, cheers mate. a deluded sense of optimism is the fate of many a gunner...

can someone post the club phone # again,

Just pointing out the obvious, nothing else.
And you know, sometimes, i just wonder why i have been around forever, you would of thought id learn but i havent!
This i know, your not D for god sake! ;)
Me too, but i vent my anger slightly differently. As seen.


And long will that continue it seems!

770-386-2337

-darknemus

Exactly, Axlgunner.

First, you send a cease and desist letter by overnight mail.? Then, if that doesn't work (and it obviously hasn't), you file an injunction against the club pending the outcome of the big freaking lawsuit you're filing, to stop the sale of tickets and any and all promotion.? Violating that injunction results in you landing your butt in jail.

It's not, really, a very hard process IF management wanted to really put their foot in the clubs ass.? Who knows...maybe they're waiting on the results of some sort of criminal investigation (edit: not activity, investigation)....though, again...why the club would continue to promote the show is just beyond me.

Again, the show is fake.? We know it's fake.

The funny thing is when Gn'R doesn't show up no one will really know if they were scheduled to play there or not because Axl doesn't show up for most of his gigs anyway. :hihi:

LoL true..Its' fake first off.GNR wouldnt play in a small club in Atlanta.Id be somewhree in California..And this is all just due to the recent excitment of IRS

You know what this reminds me of? The 'Beavis and Butthead' where they form a band and say the'yre Metallica, and the club owner bills it as 'Metallica featuring Beavis and Butthead'. Then there's a riot. Classic stuff.

Okay, before I start...I will admit..Axl and the crew are not playing here in Catersville, Ga

As a member of the board I decide to drive up and see this place(28 miles away).

Here are the facts...
The place is a Country Bar
Metal Building ....Current status was closed
Parking spaces could fit a good 50 cars
Located next to a Christian bookstore
Two levels
No marquee and zero flyers on building
Looked inside to see Guns N Roses April 22 nd on a Dry Erase Board
Airport located in Cartersville
Hampton Inn had one room left....I booked it just in case
Looked on the Hilton Honors website.....all Hilton family hotels within 20 miles arent available
Called the bar across the street Alleys sports Bar-770-387-1885; I asked them....will you be open before the GUNS N ROSES concert next door? the answer ....Yes....Okay....so you know that GnR is supposed to be playin next door ...Yes
(dont pay attention to this....he sounded like he was shrugging his shoulders at the same time)

I can't possiblily think the Guns are playing there unless....this is a rehersal and Axl doesn't want to hear from the press he sucks....another Wild Ass Guess is....they are going to play CD and get a reaction----just kidding

Anyway, i thought it was my duty to go see.

No, really, lock this thread.

 

Well thanks very much for the info. It will be interesting Friday night when this "concert" is over as to what went on.

from what you said/wrote, seems as though it IS happening! am i wrong???

It would be great to see him do something fuckin' nuts like this. I would love to see him place anannounced in a crap bar and grab some thunder that way. Doubt this will happen.

wow...u actually cked this out?! I guess I would've done the same if it was in my neck of the woods  :-[
Thanks for givin us the update, but I am lookin in my crystal ball and guessing that they will NOT be there 99.99% 
call me a pesimist

Hell in the crazy world of GN'R nothing would surprise ,me not even Axl show up to this place and doing a show.

No GNR concert... sorry folks! It will never happen, least of all in a little bar!!! But yu know... they had me for a moment.. almost had me believing them... bastards...! :)

Just listened to the message.....doesn't say anything about any bands playing.  Just keeps saying this friday is guns n' roses, like the actual guns and roses not the band.

Just a quick Wednesday, AM update on this mess.  As of now, the club's voicemail is still enthusiastically promoting GNR's appearance this Friday night.  We're now less than 60 hours away from this supposed showtime.  I am asking seriously, from the bottom of my heart here - if anyone here goes just to see what the hell is going on, PLEASE be careful.  The last thing you need is to suffer bodily injury because some drunk tool thought it'd be a good idea to toss a chair your way.

There are also reports, although unconfirmed, that other radio stations in the Atlanta area have mentioned this performance on the 22nd (within the last 12-24 hours).  I just don't see a 'good' outcome for this situation.. regardless of what's really going on.

Remember - be careful, be smart, and be alert.

-darknemus

Who would have thought that GN'R-concerts would be the last real adventures of the 21st century?

(Besides waging war against third world countries)

Well, I just tried to call the bar and I let the phone ring at least 15 times and then a recording came on that said this:

"we're sorry, your party is not answering. ?Please try your call again at another time".


this is all bullshit and i don't know why this thread is still going.

maybe you called a different number?

That means that someone else is on the phone with them or their voicemail crashed. ?Give it a few minutes and try again. ?Unless they pulled the recording in the last hour, then its still as I said it was up above.

-darknemus

tried to call it again and it rang at least 10 times and the message said,

"memory is full"

then it went beep, beep and I hung up.


i don't think the bar is promoting anything anymore.

Sounds to me like their voicemail box is full.  I'd think if they pulled the recording, they'd have something else in its place.  Sounds more like a capacity issue to me.  Like I said, when I called a little over an hour ago, the recording was still on there.

Hey, if they pulled the recording - then great.. I tend to doubt it, though.

-darknemus

I'm glad someone actually checked out this place and is going to the bar friday night. This will be interesting how this plays out.

yeah it will be interesting, yet it might be a catastrophy waiting to happen.  I mean a little bar with nut swingers flocking to it, could spell disaster,I just hope no one gets hurt, but like you said it will be interesting what turns up, or shows up :hihi:.  I called the number as well and was thinking; The guy on the recorded voice message said something along the lines of " home of guns n roses.  I dont know how they are spelling it, but when he said that, they probably couldnt get in trouble for false advertisement, but that sly phrase can bring more people out, but maybe they didnt expect this much publicity.  They should know the frenzy of fans that will go great links to see there band play.  We all know that Atlanta isnt home to gnr, that makes me believe its a cover band.

I am suprised that know one on the message board that is from there, knows who this band is, it would seem that they would know who it was, since the club guy confidently seems like the locals know who in the hell it is?

pretty weird, peace out gunners :peace:

And bring a cell phone, preferably with IM access..... :)

And ensure that your buddylist contains SOMEONE from this board...so you can pass along the minute by minute updates. :)

All of this drama about riots and Guns N Roses is overdone. No one is going to riot about GNR ever again, because aside from the people on the boards (us), no one really cares that much!

people in Vancouver, B.C. on November 7, 2002 and Philadelphia, PA on December 6, 2002 seemed to care enough to riot.? ?:no:

this entire hoax sounds like a bad cover band promotion to me? :-\

also, notice that Cartersville, GA isn't Atlanta or even Marietta, GA

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Here's my post (theory from another thread)


This is the email I sent to Rumrunners.

Will Dizzy be playing this Friday, April 22? If so how much are tickets and
what is availability like? Can I wait until Fri or should I purchase in
advance?

This morning I received a reply email,

Mike, he will be playing Friday, at around 9:30.  Tickets are $5 and can be
purchased in advanced to secure entry by calling 850-351-1817. Or you can buy
them at the door depending on availability.

So that's it, no show. Unless GnR is gonna play w/out Dizzy, which I doubt. (Kinda pointless to shoot a video with a member missing)

So, I live in this little apartment on top of a Christian book store in a suburb of Atlanta, GA. ?Last night 2 limos pulled up and a bunch of people were rushed in to the nextdoor building. ?I didn't think much of it, except it's unusual for limos in this part of town. ?I thought it must be some semi-famous county star or something. ?

Well my bathroom window overlooks the second level of the club next door. ?The window was open and I saw this scrawny guy w/ a bunch of tats, wearing a kilt and a catcher's chest protector. ?He was hanging out with a guy in leather, with a top hat and a les paul. ?They were just in earshot and I could hear them talking about a reunion of some sort and and a new album or something? ?I wonder what this all means?

Axl is not crazy enough or dumb enough to do this, and despite what this BAR is promoting,
people should please try and use their brain and just ignore it.
I would guess that there's a good chance the band hasn't even rehearsed together as a full functioning unit in over 2 years. And now Axl says lets travel across the entire country to some metal shack country bar, as their big "Secret gig returning to the stage".

There won't be a riot, because there's no way anyone with any amount of sanity would take this bar seriously. And on Friday night, before people go in, I'm sure they won't take their cover charge without telling people what to expect. And if they do, the bar deserves whatever it has coming to it.

The next GnR live show will be in LA, Vegas, NY or at a festival in europe or South America.
Not in a god damned country bar in the middle of nowhere. Christ, can you even think to begin what kind of security Axl would need to play in a bar like that? I'm guessing the dressing room is the size of a bathroom.
This is ridiculous.

Sure you do....



Before some people start believing your story, this guy doesn't even live in the right state.



/jarmo

Maybe Axl has to play in front of a small crowd first? It could be therapeutic and will give him the confidence that the new music is finally finished.


 :rofl:

Sure I do, I took an AM flight up north as I'm in sales for Maytag.  I'm just relaying what I saw from my apartment!!

There are no apartments on top of the bookstore....I was there last night and that place was closed and empty.

So Axl just rides around everywhere in kilts and baseball chest protectors? :rofl:

Dude, which bookstore are you talking about?!?!?!- because if you are familiar with the area you would know that there are 2 of them. ? Mine might not look like much of an apartment, but it is.

Besides, it creeps me out that you've been snooping around my building.

Yup, and and he had a policeman's cap on and a big oversized mic too!

Are you done with your joke?




/jarmo

Perhaps Scott Weiland  ;D

I'm almost done....but, I wouldn't say SOON is the word.

definately a description of old GNR so no doubt, a coverband

No response needed Jarmo.  Atleast I hope nobody believed this guy.

I first suggested this thread to be locked because it is a waste of our time, but now it is getting entertaining, but also stupid at the same time.    ::)

actually, they just changed the lineup of the show.? didn't you all hear?

now it'll be axl on vocals

darknemus on drums

axlgunner on bass guitar

paul tobias on keyboards? -- filling in for dizzy in fla

and mysteron as the host of the show ::)




oh my...i left out lead guitar....hmm...let's see .........yeah.....Merck ::)

Hey now, I was quite the percussionist in High School.  I got to march snare!   :rofl: :rofl: I so totally miss those freaking 8 mile parade routes, though, let me tell you.

Oh yeah - I went to Band Camp, too  ;D

-darknemus

don't forget, chris pittman will be appearing as the bus boy...

actually, he'll be there all week; he needs some extra dough.

Listen lmook....and listen good (don't make me call upon Buddy Jesus to ban your ass foreva')...your treading on thin ice buddy ruff....your messages need to be pre-approved, must elicit no chuckles or responses beyond the realm of predictability, shall incorporate no mocking of the status quo, bequeath no rebellious-type attitudes or opinions, hath not ever be found to imply individuality apart from thy mass consciousness, beckon not thy locking of thy holy thread (hold fast to the rod!)....*deep breath*....err, uh, umm, ah hell...Axl said it best when he dedicated a little ditty at the Ritz to...

"...the people that tell you how to live, the people that tell you how to dress, the people that tell you how to talk, people that tell you what you can say and what you can't say, I personally don't need that....those are the kinda people that be gettin' me down, they make me feel like somebody....somebody out there....is out ta get me!!!" ?:-X

~M ?:-*


PS - Was born an only Son, gotta get my freudian teasing out of the way for the day... ;)

Look, if you hate this place that much, why don't you just leave? Ever thought of that? Do something about it!

If it's that difficult to understand that some of us happy to have a board with some basic rules, instead of having a board that kids use it as a virtual sandbox?

You keep going off topic in a bit too many threads lately bitching about how this place is run. Do something about it, you're not the only one who hates the board. 

So, click the Logout button and go find a board where you can do whatever you wanna do here, but you can't since we have rules.

If you keep going off topic like this, I'll give you a reason to whine about how this place is run.  :-*



/jarmo

Point proven.  : ok:

People with control issues get upset when their views are challenged....It's good to see someone so level-headed for a change.  You get bent out of shape when things are unpredictable, I can't help that....I'm just here to test the waters with unconventional GNR opinion.  If you don't like diversity of opinion, ban me.  Just cuz you get a little power trip out of locking threads that are a wee bit challenging, come on, lighten up, you sound like Axl's dad or something. 

Open your heart my man....let's see if you can handle a simple opinion apart from your own without upwelling the need to control it:

testing....one two three....

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Bootlegs???? Downloads??? Links??? Even an official version of the video "It's So Easy"!  But yet, we must not mention "sharing" IRS, because somehow, magically, GNR management doesn't want us listening to this itty bitty bootleg, but they don't mind us downloading AFD, UYI and SI demos, official video's etc.? Yeah right, its a classic case of ass kissing, which is why you try so hard to control every move on this board.

I'm back for a week and already I see the anti-thesis of the Rock N' Roll spirit degenerating before my eyes....I must go before I fall prey...  :peace:  Maybe I will try again next year when Chinese Hypocrisy begins mixing.

~M  :smoking:

I have a thing for people like you. They always use the words "power" and "trip" while acting like a "cry baby".

It's good to see that some things never change.




Open your fucking eyes.... Man. You keep whining in the wrong section.

You found the board index where you managed to copy and paste a description of a section, but you haven't managed to find the scroll bar yet?





And you keep whining in the wrong section and wrong thread.

I'm done with you. Good bye.


For all the others who don't understand this:
- Feedback = good.
- Feedback in the wrong section and in the wrong threads = annoying.
- Feedback in the wrong section and in the wrong threads after you've been asked to post in the right section = banned. I'm not here to clean up after somebody who can't even do things when asked nicely.

This person posted the same things yesterday and I moved his post to the right section. Instead of posting there, he had to keep posting his "feedback" here. Obviously the concept of sections is too complicated for some who think they have to "rebel" against the idea of sections by posting things in the wrong place.


Now, back to the exciting thread. Please.




/jarmo

hahahaha that was pretty funny.  :hihi:

ontopic , I cant wait to see how this plays out Fri nite. Imagine the shock if this was a surprise gig of sorts and managment are just denying the rumor to keep the "hardcore" fans away and test new songs on an average audience. lol

nah , it's fake but it will still be funny to hear why "guns n roses" didnt show up from the club owner.

On Topic: Does this remind anyone else of those scam artists from Romania who said GnR were supposed to play there a year or two back? Even if Mgt. does nothing in regards to this, i imagine some criminal charges could be filed by someone.....

BTW, why hasn't mysteron responded to this thread?

well the good thing about the rumours that come with a date is that we'll always know if they were fake

Wow you really got me wondering?

Maybe it's Axl Rose and he traveled in time...kilt and all!!!  :P

Numbnuts....

It also reminds me of another one
that some fans sister was told there had been a GN'R gig near her work the previous night
but seemingly it was just her manager pulling her legs.
I think it was in Kentucky.

You are an idiot and should be banned

Thank you for the productive feedback.  jarmo was right, there is lots of whinning going on here.  Why should I be banned?  Is it because you have no sense of humor and cannot take a joke?

Maybe it will be mini-Guns n Roses?

No because its stupid and you didnt say it was a joke

Because you have been told already it's nonsense  : ok:

about damn time  ;)

Even though this is a hoax it is still worth checking out if you live near this place.

(http://img17.echo.cx/img17/9185/ticket5yl.jpg)

quick question... don't tickets usually have the name of the promoter on them?

If that doesn't scream lawsuit I don't know what does!?

I was going to go .. then I read the ticket and realized they wont let me bring my weapons!!  :'(

Maybe thats why Axl wont show up either as he wont be allowed to pull out the "big guns" on stage!  :rofl:

Okay, I almost choked on my subway turkey footlong.

This post was hysterical :rofl:

no WAY they've sold 177 tickets...how dumb can people be!?!

i know this is proberbly all bollocks about this gig but,we know some band members are busy on this date but axl might not be.remember when he went into that empty strip club an previewed CD.well what a better way to get sum feedback on it than to get a club proberbly half full off gnr fans,somewhere quiet where he can preview it an see the response for himself.it would be a typical axl thing.if anybody reads this and has tickets DONT GET XCITED CUZ ITS JUS MY THEARY.plus the only poeple who believe its really gonna be n e thin to do wiv gnr will be there,everbody else will say its all bollox

I totally believe in that

like i say this is just my theory but we'll hav to wait n see

am i the only one here that sees a riot on the way? :-X

Nope thats why a lot of us are worried about the situation.

Just a quick update:

Its now about 7:15 AM local time, a bit less than 36 hours away from this supposed event.  Coyotes voicemail message is STILL promoting GNR appearing Friday night.  Tickets still available, Doors open at 7.  If nothing else, tomorrow should prove amusing.

Remember - if you go, be careful. 

-darknemus

what do you mean? Midgets?

I'm guessing he meant this:

http://www.lilgnr.com/

-darknemus

I hope Philadelphia fans won't come to this high possibly 'non-show'  ;D :confused:

could someone that lives in the are actually go to the club and speak to someone? .. that might be more informative than the voicemail.  i'm its 99% false.. but how can they sell tickets for the show?.. the owner of the club can't be that stupid...  this is all very interesting to me

Im 99% sure that this is a hoax...

But theres still the 1%...............  ;D

I wonder how this turns out...

Oh well, at least its an easy out for the club owner when GnR doesn't show.

Angry Mob: "What the fuck, you promised us GnR!!!!"

Club Owner: "I know, but you know that Axl, always pulling a no show and cancelling shit! Remember, no refunds..."
* walks away counting money

Goddammit its a Perfect Crime. ?:P

Some posters have been to the club.  There's a guy by the name of mike91 who went the first Friday they were allowing tickets to be purchased.  There was some holdup that caused them to not be able to actually distribute them until 11 (the initial time was supposed to be like 6 or 7).  The owner, from what I understand, seemed convinced Guns is showing up.  As to why, I have no clue.  That's just the vibe I picked up from mike's post.  Perhaps he can elaborate.  I do remember something about the club owner waiting for a call from the promoter or something before he allowed tickets to be distributed - and apparently, he got that call.

-darknemus

at least it's a fact that nobody can just print Guns N' Roses on their tickets and then get away un-asskicked. Heck, they even got the N' correct, didn't write 'N' or and ---

there's no way they'll get away through the backdoor if it ain't going to happen ---


I don't think it would be 21+ then ---

Or he wanted to sell more beer....



People didn't believe GN'R would play officially announced dates back in 2001 and 2002. When you read some of these posts, you get a feeling that some people think that the probability of GN'R playing this bar, compared to those dates, is bigger.

If you've been told they're not playing, how can there be a chance of them doing that?




/jarmo

Jarmo,

I, for one, dont think GNR are playing at this club.  Well, at least the logical part of my brain tells me they aren't.  But there are still some peculiarities here that weren't present in, for instance, the Hungary situation.  (Which is the closest thing I can come up with in approximation to this)

A. The length of time this has gone on.  This club has been promoting this show since at least April 8th - possibly before then.

B. Managements APPEARANCE (I'm not saying they haven't - I'm simply saying it doesn't appear that they have) that they haven't stepped in and issued this club some sort of "stop now, seriously" kind of order.

C. The fact that a local radio station was paid by the club, at least initially, to promote this show.  A Clear Channel station, nonetheless - which is kind of amusing, in its own right.

D. The supposed existence of a signed contract seen by the radio station

E. The club's continuing to promote the event about 36 hours before its supposed happening.. you would THINK that they would be aware of the consequences and would be smart.

The only conclusion I can draw from any of this is that the club, themselves, think Guns is showing up - now WHY they think that, I have no clue.  I do hope, though, for the sake of people's safety in the area, if nothing is going on and its just gonna be another normal Friday night in Cartersville, GA, then I hope SOMEONE steps in before people get hurt.

There are locals going to this show who have never been on a GNR board in their life - its those people that are really getting screwed by all of this.. managment may have issued denials through intermediaries on a message board or two - but seriously, to avoid chaos - I would HOPE that they would see a need to be a bit more.. aggressive in their approach here.

-darknemus

Has anyone actually bothered to pass this info on to management? I mean, they can't be on top of every little thing all the time. It's quite possible that they have no idea its going on.

As for the club owner/booker, I am leaning heavily towards a scam by a fake 'promoter'. Its not that hard to draw up a bogus contract and to lead on someone with false confirmations/phone calls/contracts. Then again for all we know they might actually play. Who knows for sure, stranger things have happened. But my gut feeling is that this is a total forgery and a scam.

Sure, it's weird that the bar is still promoting the event, but that doesn't really mean anything. Just like anybody else who thinks they're right, they'll find out one day that they were wrong.


And you should know about that...... Yeah, this reminds me of that other "incident". Back then some people were telling me how much proof there was and how the story didn't make any sense.

Oh, and even back then management said it was bullshit and some of you wouldn't believe it. Same thing here.....





/jarmo

And I heard one more similar occurrence that some club claimed a GN'R show, which turned out to be a Steven's show.

Even if the real GNR did sign to play at this club, do you really think they would show?

I'm telling you, its going to be lil GnR who shows up!!  :hihi:

Does anyone know if they've replaced Buckethead yet?
We know that Dizzy has another show that night.
If Axl does show up it could be a cool gig with just 2 guitars, bass, and drums or he could be playing his new CD like Mettalica did with the black album at MSG.

K i highly dought that there going to play..I think if theyb were it would be like at the Ritz,The Roxy or in Vegas or somehting..But i also dont know why managment hasnt denied this yet or why the club owner would do this?Very confusing

Are they deliberately trying to cause a riot? ?:no:

I was thinking the same thing. A riot would give the club some cheap pub. AS sick as it sounds, they could possibly be trying to cause a riot.

ummmm no, they are not trying to cause a riot.

Your club gets trashed.  Then when you try to explain to the insurance company why there was a riot they will investigate.  When the insurance company figures out 'hey this was a scam' they will call the FBI.  The FBI will then arrest the owners for fraud.  The owners will then go to jail for a long time and the Coyote club will cease to exist.

Seriously.....was that really called for? ?The pot shot? Really? ?C'mon.....

Seriously...... This reminded me of that incident. Really.



You have word from management saying it's not happening and still some of you keep talking about it like there's a chance of it happening.

That wasn't intended to be a pot shot, it's just funny how things never change.?

When you start listing things that are "weird" in this case, you should know that there's a chance you're giving some people false hope. I'm not exactly thrilled about that happening because I know what it leads to. The people who got their hopes up will get disappointed. Then what? More posts about how Axl is an asshole and the new band sucks.

Thats how I see it.




/jarmo

Yeah, but then again, you should never underestimate people's stupidity.   :confused:

Jarmo, I think the deal is... a lot of people want to believe something is happening. The only thing GnR fans have to go on at this point it hope. At this point in time we have been lead on for so long by management and the band that people don't even believe official news any more. It's sad but true I think. I think this Coyote's thing is a lose lose situation no matter what happens.

exactly!

I'd like something to be happening too. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna disregard what the band's management has said about this "show".






/jarmo

You have word from management saying it's not happening and still some of you keep talking about it like there's a chance of it happening.

That wasn't intended to be a pot shot, it's just funny how things never change.?

Thats how I see it.




/jarmo
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I bet a rumour of GNR playing on the moon, would get 250 replies people are just getting very desperate and frustrated.

Exactly. That's why I say this is a lose lose situation. The people who want to believe this rumor and disregard what management has said will blame (as they already have) management for not making a bold enough announcement to disclaim the rumor. And the slim chance that they are trying to keep something hush hush after generating an initial buzz for say a video or something... then management lied to the fans and people missed out on something.

What? Did you buy a ticket? ;)




/jarmo

No they only had seating tickets left, Neil Armstrong told me not to bother, its supposed to be a bad view

I'm just amazed that people are still willing to debate this.
When GnR do return to the stage (secret or announced) it will be
covered heavily by the media.

People love consipracy theories, and this board has heard dozens over the past few years.
But really...as tight-lipped as management has to be around the release of CD, they are not going to feed you BS about a performance not happening.

Stop worrying about riots and what the consequences are for the owners of this club.
There's not going to be 1,000 angry GnR fans that show up for this thing, and if they do, then it's the club's problem, not ours.

We just have to let this play out tommorrow night around 9:00pm est

Why in the hell is this still being talked about?

 We all know that it?s not going to happen

because we don't have anything else to talk about.

well what the hell is actually going on? you cant exactly say "GNR comming tonight for a warm up show" and sell tickets for it and end up to be no show

jarmo what have the management said about this show

They told one of the administrators at MyGNR that it's not happening.

That's good enough for me.



/jarmo

who is so special at MyGNR?

Madison was told by Merck (i think it's on page one of the thread at mygnr.com) and it was also reported on Sp1at.com that it was a hoax and Merck said the bar was conning people and advised everyone to save your money because it was rubbish.

I'd link you to sp1at.com but the site was hacked and they lost all their info.

I could also say Merck told me that is was a hoax. Ah the beauty of the net.

Wait a minute. You won't believe people who have been reliable in the past, but you will believe a bar in GA might hold a GN'R show?



/jarmo

You you have taken my statement way out of context. I in no way shape or form believe this bar in Georgia, but do you know for sure Madison is indeed reliable?

Based on the times I've seen her post what Merck has told her, yeah.



/jarmo

It could be just luck of the draw.

seriously man, are you just trolling for fights in this thread? you are taking people's posts way out of context. management is being extremely dumb in not getting the bar to stop promoting this show. There are hundreds of locals who dont read this board who have not heard management say the band will not show up. THEY WILL GO TO THE CLUB AND GET PISSED AT GNR WHEN THEY DONT SHOW. how is this a good thing? are you going to make fun of those people for not reading madison's obscure post from management? instead of blaming it on darknemus, like you love to do, for getting people's hopes up-- why don't you place the blame on the real culprits- MANAGEMENT. or are you not allowed to upset your webhosts? (sorry, that might be completely irrelevant to this discussion, but it was something that this conversation reminded me of)

If i said every rumour that has floated around the past three years was false. I would also be reliable.

Axlgunner,

Why are you so obsessed with putting a stop to a show that isn't going to happen?

And just because managment hasn't made itself public as to what steps it will take or in what time frame it will take them, doesn't mean they aren't concerned.

This is GNR. ?They move at their own speed.

they move at a dead turtles pace

well, it seems to me that management wouldn't want to give this bar any publicity so we won't even know what legal steps they take.  Hell, do we know what legal steps are happening that caused the 2002 tour to cancel?  No. 

I don't think it is a publicity issue.

Well, what I am saying is we never know every legal detail surrounding GNR or how they handle something.

Maybe they don't see the ramifications like some on here do and think we blow it out of proporation or something.

I am just trying to say that the steps they (gnr mgmt) take we won't always know about it and that shouldn't be assumed that they aren't doing anything just because they don't talk about what they do.

Very true

F***ing hilarious!!!

This must be the post of the day!!!


And I thank you for that ?:beer:

On topic:

I want to believe, but for my own sanity, I'll go with managment....

thank you :D ? to think i wrote that without drinking any coffee to wake me up either :P

Take note Jarmo  ;)

of course i dont know what is going on behind closed doors.

BUT, i can use past experiences to gain some insight into what may be going on.

here's what i know:

management stepped in immediately to get the radio station to stop promoting the show

when a similar hoax gnr concert was announced in budapest in 2003, management immediately put an end to it and got the police involved immediately. This is after roughly only 65 tickets were actually sold.

management has a history of issuing cease and desist letters to people wrongfully using the gnr name.

it has been 2 weeks since management found out about the show.

all they have to do is issue a cease and desist, an injunction to get the bar to stop promoting the show, or issue an announcement that doesn't mention the bar by name, but still makes it clear that gnr will not be performing in georgia. none of those are hard to do, and i guarantee they should have been able to do one of those by now.


my issue with getting management to stop the show that isnt happenening is that people are wrongfully using the gnr name for profit. this is morally and legally wrong. and it can have very bad consequences for the band and their public image. plus many people can get hurt if there is a riot (which others on this board also feel is a real possibility).

that, and there is nothing else to talk about, so i'm gonna talk about my complaints with management's handling of this situation.

 ;D

My sentiments exactly!

There's not much I can do about the locals since I don't even live in the same country! Maybe you could fly down there and stop them from selling the tickets? ?;)

What I can do, is to tell people who are reading this board that it's not happening, and that's what I'm doing.




I wasn't blaming him, but he should be aware of what his actions can cause. We're the ones who will have to deal with people yelling "Asshole Axl" when people get disappointed.




Management didn't post on this board trying to tell people it could happen. Or did I miss something?

The rest of what you said is just ridiculous bullshit that needs no comment.


/jarmo

sorry, i just figured, 'when in rome...'


also, i love how you have no problem with management allowing a potential riot to occur and be associated with the name 'guns n roses'. seriously, i commend that. really.

You go find the quote where I claimed that. Now go ahead..... I'll be waiting.  : ok:




/jarmo

Axlgunner,

Maybe GNR management did issue a Cease and desist letter already. ?We just don't know about it and that is why they aren't or don't feel like it's necessary to speak up about it.

With all the legal shit Axl is dealing with right now, this is so minute in his world.

"all they have to do is issue a cease and desist, an injunction to get the bar to stop promoting the show, or issue an announcement that doesn't mention the bar by name, but still makes it clear that gnr will not be performing in georgia. none of those are hard to do, and i guarantee they should have been able to do one of those by now."



To issue a legal cease and desist injuntion you would have to name the defendent and what they are doing wrong, which would just give the bar free publicity. ?Anyone who believes GnR is coming down to Georgia is crazy.

Besides management claiming its not happening, look at that ticket, Wouldn't GnR be doing a show at a ticketmaster club or doing a show where they can spend more then 2 cents on a ticket I have never seen such a poor quality ticket in my life. ?Back in high school we had better tickets for our school play and that was for kid acting. If you want to believe any stupid story anyone could make one up, like

Hell next month GnR will be playing a 1 up show in Oklahoma where they will be shooting the video for TWAT, They will be playing a few other songs to "warm up" the audience then they will shoot the new video for the first single off of CD. ?Tickets will be limited and distributed through a coffee house on 1st ave for $5 a ticketso come by them fast because seating is limited to 50 people.

i think the 'free publicity' argument is overrated.

as for the ticket looking cheap, you are dead on.

you implied that management's statement on the issue is "good enough" for you. nevermind the fact that many other peole don't believe it and/or have not heard it even. hence, they may still go to the show and riot when gnr dont show up. since you said essentially that management has done enough in your mind, then they dont need to say anything else in your opinion that may discourage a fucking riot. : ok:

That's just stupid.

The fact that Merck told Madison is good enough for me, I don't need more proof that it won't happen. Madison doesn't have to supply me a written documentation of the authenticity of Merck's e-mail.


I don't think I mentioned a riot anywhere.....



/jarmo

AxlGunner, you make it seem as though you want jarmo to take matters into his own hands right now and put a stop to this supposed show.

Hell yeah Pope Jarmo should of personally stopped this show himself a long time ago

Not to mention Pope Jarmo should of also told Axl last time they hung out to release CD already.

People need to relize he is just a GnR fan like everyone else, except he runs a nice website where fans can come for information he has no super powers. He isn't superman

Are you knocking Oklahoma?

More Cowbell thinks for ruining my Illusion the Jarmo  was superman.  :( :'(

calm down ladies.... geez even though I am an arrogant prick at times, I still know when I should stop.  Relax....

Back on topic, I have a friend in the ATL and he said he might give it a try friday if anything just to get hammered at a nearby bar and laugh at all the fans who are going out to see them. 

I might be crazy.. but the most official thing we have to go by is what the people at the club say.. and from what the people who have been to club say it sounds like.. the owner really believes that gnr will be there.. I mean no business man in his right mind would sell tix blatantly false advertising a band.. here in the US people get sued all the time.. there is not way the owner is this stupid. ?Can he? ? ?

He's superjarmo

So it's jarmo's fault that people are going to the show? He already said he thinks it's bs, what do you want him to do pm every member saying it's fake, seriously ?::)

 :smoking: Izzy ?:smoking:

Maybe the owner really does think that they will show up .

He could be one crazy mother fucker.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=495&ncid=762&e=4&u=/ap/20050421/ap_en_mu/music_minute_no_guns_show

Entertainment - AP Music
 
 
Georgia Club Hopes for Guns N' Roses Show

22 minutes ago   Entertainment - AP Music
 

By JANET MORRISSEY, For The Associated Press

Guns N' Roses fans nationwide started buzzing recently when Atlanta radio station 96Rock began advertising that the reclusive Axl Rose would be performing at a club in Cartersville, Ga., on Friday.

   

Even more exciting: Rose was said to be teaming up with former bandmate and songwriting partner Izzy Stradlin. The promo on the rock station's website promised a "three-hour set," with the $20 tickets limited to one per customer.


But it appears there will be no show. "Axl will not be there," GNR manager Merck Mercuriadis told The Associated Press.


Why not? The answer was unclear Thursday.


The radio station's program director, Jeff McMurray, initially stood by his promotion. He told AP he had seen contracts signed by Rose and Stradlin to appear at Coyotes, capacity 2,000. While he admits it seemed odd that a band of GNR's stature would play such a small venue, McMurray said it's not an unusual move for big-name bands. He recalled U2 and REM playing the Hurricane, a tiny club in Kansas City, a number of years ago.


But after further investigation, McMurray backtracked. "Although we have contracts stating that they'll be there, evidently (the contracts) are not from Axl Rose," he said.


The radio station promotions were pulled — but the club continued to promote the gig. On Thursday morning, a voicemail on the Coyotes' phone still said GNR was coming to town.


"I sent off a certified check. It was a legitimate booking agency," Coyotes manager Pete Grim said. "I had asked (the agency) several questions about the status of Guns N' Roses because I do know that Velvet Revolver is out and lots of the members from Guns N' Roses went there. But he assured me it wasn't the Velvet Revolver people — it was actually Rose and other original members."


Grim said he dealt with a booking agency called Bryant Entertainment. AP could not locate a phone number for the company. Strangely, the radio station would not provide a number. Requests to the radio station and club to pass on messages to the booker yielded no results.


The gig would have marked the first time that Rose — the Howard Hughes of rock — had performed publicly since promoter Clear Channel pulled the plug on his comeback tour in 2002.


The original GNR lineup imploded in the 1990s over egos and disputes over musical direction, leaving only Rose and keyboard player Dizzy Reed to continue under the GNR name. Partway through the comeback tour, Rose failed to show up for a gig in Philadelphia, causing riots, which led to the tour's demise.


Rose and his much-hyped album, "Chinese Democracy," which is 10 years in the making, have not been heard from since.






 

how is it jarmo's fault?? why do you think i want him to do something?

i just find it interesting that the people who come here claiming the show isn't happening aren't looking at the consequences of management not getting the bar to stop promoting the show.

that plus that fact that he's being a dick to anyone who holds on to a glimmer of hope (even just 1% of hope) that something might happen just because he's worried that it will cause people to "call axl an asshole" gets me a bit annoyed.

And finally, the AP gets involved.  This is actually a good thing.  Now does the club still keep promoting the show?  That's a good question.

-darknemus

This thing is getting crazy! Nothing will happen!  :rant:

thanks dude

I think if it wasn't clear before it is now

Now I think it aint gonna happen 100% after reading Nixon's post. Maybey Izzy will be there though, they said they had a signature from him


I was being sarcastic

Fair enough, I see your point

 :smoking: Izzy ?:smoking:

Management did do something about it...




At least you admit the reason for posting your stupid accusations.





/jarmo

So basically the radio station and the club owner are totally lying about this shit. They made that fucking contract up themselves... otherwise they would be flaming hot at the booking agency and they would have given out that contact info. Fuck those bitches!!!

let's not start something else here.

It's obvious that somebody took the money and ran ---

Thanks for the AP article. After reading this article, I hope everyone is now 100% certain nothing will happen tomorrow night in the ATL area. I know most people here knew nothing will happen but hopefully this will kill any rumor something might kinda sorta happen.

It is a hoax (almost admitted by the club when they failed to give out any info about the supposed "booking agency" to journalists) and hopefully they will get their ass sued for this. Fuckin lamers.

Sounds like those people will have some explaining to do.... As expected. ?:no:





/jarmo

Sue there a$$es!

alright, cool man.

 i dont think it will happen either!!

and jarmo- again, since you called my accusations stupid it must mean i was wrong in questioning you and you DO agree with me; i'm so glad!

but it's still funny that you are so worried about people calling axl an asshole; that's been going on for a long time now, or did you not notice ?;D ?

This is wishful thinking, but what if..

What if GN'R or Axl will be at the show, but it's so top-secret they have kept it to themselves and not told anyone, even the manager...

You can dream, right?

FYI: The Axl bashing doesn't affect me in any way other than I'm the one, along with the mods, who need to "work" when it happens. You know, lock threads, tell people to calm down and occasionally ban people.

So, if we don't have people who got their hopes up and then let down, then it means less work for us and less negative posts on this board (which I assume most posters here think is a good thing).




Oh, stop it.  :P

There's no secret here. Just somebody trying to make some money on GN'R fans.




/jarmo

Could it suck anymore to be a GN'R fan? No other fan in the world gets blue balls like us.

Thats why its gonna rock so hard when we shoot out a load of Chinese Demorcacy :::::Fingers Crossed:::  :peace:

yes it does suck!

as a gnr fan, such little hope is what keeps us going. reality is too harsh to really think about 100% of the time. i mean let's face it: no news from axl in over a year, no tours in 3 years, no album in 10 years....

we NEED to rely on this hope, even though we know in our brain that it is foolish. it is this hope that keeps us sticking with gnr through all the teases and false-starts and dry spells.

it is only natural. so when people say "oh stop it" to someone who wants to speculate about the very very very very slight possibility that some conspiracy is afoot, you are essentially telling them to give up the little hope that they have invested into this; hope that is necessary for them to keep following gnr.

and to be concerned that some people will criticize axl is blatantly just self-serving on your part. you want less work. fine. but that doesnt mean people should be castigated for expressing hope, or pointing out weird things. they know in their hearts it's not true, but let them discuss it anyway... besides, what else do we have to talk about?

Im not disappointed, this was expected...

Dont get your hopes high, when it comes to GNR.

indeed, the smart ones have learned this long ago...  :)

No, I'm telling them to wake up and move on to the next dream since this one's turned into a nightmare.  :hihi:





Yeah, you can keep posting about how it might happen even after you've seen facts that it's not gonna happen. You can post conspiracy theories about it all you want.

I'll still tell people not to get their hopes up and pay attention to what has been said by the band and/or their management.

I know some people are interested in conspiracy theories and stuff like that. That's their choice, I'm only interested in getting the truth.


Expressing "hope" regarding a concert hoax is also different from expressing hope regarding the album's release in my opinion.





/jarmo

just to be clear, i am personally not putting forward any conspiracy theories. the bar is obviously either lying or just stupid.

i just think this whole 'nightmare' was handled poorly by management.


we'll see friday night what the conclusion of this whole mess is!

Hoax, so you should close this thread  ;)
Perhaps modos still hope GN'R will show tomorrow ;D

amen

Axlgunner,

I think what you mean to say is that GNR management didn't conform to your standards of putting a stop to this false show.

Like I said earlier, GNR management does things of their own accord.  It's not up to us to say they handled it wrong.  I do think that Axl has more important lawsuits to clear up than this bullshit that is probably so minute in his world.

I can understand being concerned about it, but next time there is a fake GNR concert hoax as we seem to get one every other year, my advice to you would be not to be so obsessed about it.  It'll work itself out.  This time around, it just happened to be a little over 24 hours out.

If I didn't have to work I would drive the 45 minutes to see what happens. ::)

I vote to leave the thread open....

So we can have a go at the bar tomorrow and Saturday when GnR don't show. :)

i said precisely what i meant to say.

"Axl has more important lawsuits" perhaps. but this case shouldn't involve axl at all. that's what some lawyers are for. i'm sure sanctuary has more than enough.

as for your advice, well, thanks for caring, but i can handle myself. a couple boring days at work and nothing else to do is all it was. i don't know why some other people on this thread have been so sensitive though  ???

There's no way this guy could be dumb enough to think Guns N' Roses was gonna play his club.  I think what happened is the guy thought it would be funny to say GN'R would be there, then have a tribute band play instead...not having any clue how badly that would come back to bite him in the ass.  Then somebody probably told him that if some lame tribute band came out instead of the real thing the audience the people there would probably rip the place to shreds, so now he's kinda going back on his word.  This guy obviously doesn't realize what band he's dealing with here.

Okay, now you can the club owner is dumb. Because, I think he has updated the message. He says, thats right Guns N Roses ......
Here is a theory....Maybe Steven Adler will show up with his band. I could honestly see him promoting himself using AXL and IZZY.
In the article, it doesnt really sound like the club owner is updated  on GnR. I think he was taken in a scam for the upfront check.
However, I am still going to attend just to see.(Car wreck mentality) :o

You might have a point.  Their was a recent interview where Steven said that He and the other old guys had just as much of a right to use the GNR name as Axl.  So who knows?

By the way as of this morning Friday, I live a state away, the Voice Mail is still advertising GNR tonight.  :-\

Steven and the others former members have all the rights to say they were Guns N Roses and contributed to the awesome GnR music, but they cannot say they are (present tense) GnR, 'cause the legal right over the Guns N Roses name is an Axl prerogative

Yea you're right.? But just like when The Offspring tried to use their name of their new album "Chinese Democracy", Steven could be trying to be a smart-ass.? I figured you could just throw this Steven idea in the barrel with all the other hypothesis.? Because the fact is right now we don't know what the fuck is going on right now.? But either way this is more exciting than talking about Axls hair and etc like we've been doing. ;)

Wow. This guy obviously didn't get it when AP contacted him about the "concert".....

Maybe he just wants to sell more beer on Friday to make up for the money he paid the "promoter".



/jarmo

He'll need to sell a hell of a lot of beer to also compensate for his bar getting trashed.

Yeah this Coyotes place doesn't need anymore free advertising.

I cant believe some of you believed this its like pathetic. Its like if a Guns N Roses concert was going to happen, it would be announced on the website and enormous amounts of publicity. I just find it sad that some of you thought this  thing was legit.

I haven't seen one reply to this whole thread saying that they believe it.  no one does.  This is called a DISCUSSION. ::)

Yeah now  I think we can only discuss of the hoax consequences  :-[ (but still hope for GNR !  :hihi:)

Here it come kids

It's coming...................................i promise



 :-*. :-*. :-*. :-*. :-*TH

Here comes what?    ???

Riot is coming  : ok:

Nothing wrong with a little riot every now and again.

How about an all drag version of Guns N Roses?

Recently there's been a lot of shit about Axl on radio. in Birmingham city, England, Kerrang Radio sed, "We got Axl Rose from Guns N' Roses. he's coming on the show" it was announced on a show called tim shaw's asylum. it neva happnd. i knew it wudnt
this happnd about a month ago

 :o"Here I aaaaaaam and you're Drag Queens oooh yeah
I might be too much but honey you're a bit obscene"?

Shit, I did this one again. :-\

Voice Message is still up....I've been practicing the chair toss all day!! : ok:--just kidding

At least Ron Jeremy won't steal my table this time( Ron and his crew stole my table At the Hard Rock in Vegas at my last Guns show)
I'll let ya'll know what happens....

LJ

When is it supposed to not go down?

hahaha , good one man.  :rofl:

How long until we can lock this  ??  :rofl:

How long until the door open? Anyone tryed to call them today? Maybe they have realized no GNR members coming..  :hihi:

from mygnrforum

by the user outtagetme:

"UPDATE 4:50 EDT!!!!

I just got a parking lot update. There is a big white semi-truck trailer in the parking lot and a bunch of guys are unloading it. Gibson243 (I might have her numbers wrong) just called and said that the parking lot is blocked off by cones and she spoke with the owner who said that he has a signed a contract and is expecting Axl to show. Fuck it. I'm on my way up there soon. "

What time tonight will the audience burn Coyotes to the ground?

Watch the doors be locked and the owner skip town.

Like I posted at MYGNR, Hells Bells is are the biggest AC/DC cover band in the world and they do world tours.  It's very possible the equipment in the parking lot is theirs.

That is much more likely than GNR showing up. They`ll get their $20 worth out of it, but people who were expecting GNR will still be pissed.

yeah, i would, get really pissed! Expecting GNR and then a looser AC/DC cover band show up.. damn,..  :rant:

Imagine if this is/was legit and management just deny it to keep it secret cause they wanna just shock everyone?! Or if they wanna unleash new material to the "non-hardcore" fans just to test the waters?!

I mean who knows really.

Yes , it's more then likely very fake , but just imagine if it was real. The shock. The horror. The GUNS!  :nervous:

If it should turn out to be true.. IF... then i think its a great way to start from the "bottom" again.. To play in a little club.. Just like they did back in the 80`s, thats great.. i think its waird the way sanctuary or the managment handle the situation.. So, it would be great if they released a Singe or somthing tonight! YEY!!

But im sooooo damn sure this is fake... "I wont be told anymore, that CD is close to the shore"

The Clubs phones seem to be off the hook now :nervous:

U mean, its not plugged in? Does it ring? or ..? No GNR promo?

No its through now.  But no voice mail picked up.

I have the strong urge to drive the 5 hours to get there!  :hihi: Not for a concert, but to help tear the place down.

Like maybe thats what the club owner expects; a cheap demo crew. Hell people paid him $20 to help demo HIS place!  :hihi:

Im 5 hrs away too in Florence South Carolina.  Where are you?  i'll pitch in on gas!!

what time is it over there now? Its 23:41 in Norway no.. so i guess... . . . almost 6 oclock or something?

off topic but : hi guns n ballz!! long time no speak!  :beer: :beer:

drive down there bro and tear shit up.

That would be fun, go ther just to torch the place. FIRE! FIRE! He he he he! ?(best Bevis impersonation)

well --- best wishes to those who are going

you know our thoughts and prayers are with you

LOL..Well the best possible outsome of this would aviasly be for axl to show up..But itll be interesting to see what happens to the place when he dosent

Hey Saul man! ?:peace: I don't get around as much lately. ?:P

I live in Orange Park, Florida. I don't get off work until 8 I think so I wouldn't get there in time.

If Axl does show up (with Izzy even) can you imagine the energy that would pour out of that little hell hole of a club??? :hihi:

Not that I believe they will. The whole Izzy thing just kind of throws it out the window.? :yes:

Even though i know this aint gonna happen it still excites me a little lol..So i pulled out the Rock In Rio 3 dvd and am watching it now..Hopeing when he comes back he looks like that

heck, it's going to be at least 3 in the morning over here before anything happens

as long as his voice works he could be bald wearing clown makeup .. just as long as he can sing and release democracy.  :hihi:

Well im quite convinced this isnt going to happen..Im sure other promoters would have picked up on it or something and someone in the parking lot or something would have seen people associated with axl orm axl going into the building or gnrs equipment or something

what was that I just heard? somebody doing a soundcheck? opening notes of WTTJ?!

 ;D  we wish!!

No matter how stupid a rumor I always get at least a little excited. No matter how many times I get fooled, I still get that extra heartbeat.  ;D

 Message from OutTaGetMe (just called me on my cel)

Someone's soundcheck just started - this is from a girl that he knows in the parking lot.. she said its loud and she "can't hear shit" - so no details on who's soundchecking

Alot of people just got there

There is a beer truck, a coke truck, and a huge white semi outside.

He emphasized that alot of people are beginning to arrive.. he's still about an hour or so out.

Aaw man, I can't even get my -darknemus quoted?  That hurts, big time :P

-darknemus

I KNEW I heard a soundcheck!  ;D

time to open a beer and sit back and watch all this unfold. lol  :beer:

alright, I hope I'll speak on behalf of everybody present when I say

--- No joking beyond this point ---

So are eMe (the poster before me) and eze (the starter of this thread) related or some thing?  :P Yeah I'm bored.

 : ok: No joking! I am actualy e bit excited about this, even i "know" nothings gonna happend

No joking Mr.Ballz!  :rofl:

If there`s no joking around, we`d have nothing to talk about. ?:beer:

this could be the biggest "Punk'd" episode ever! ;D

who was that curly haired guy with the top hat that just walked in the club?!  :o

 ;D

you said it man

don't mean to bully anyone but otherwise you bet that somebody will show up and say, "there's this friend of mine at the bar now, just sent my an sms saying Slash just came on stage" and all that.

you know we had this before

Dude! Thats not a dude! Thats my mom!  :crying:

I think GNR have taking the stage!! Looks like they are playing patience or dont cry!

(http://www.synergytheband.com/full_house.jpg)

wow. look at all the shit kickers.  :rofl:

this is the bar??

yeppers.

Just got this from MYGNRFORUM.COM



from MADISON:

Guys -- you still have a long time to wait.
The opening band - Hells Bells - doesn't go on until about 10.
And they'll play for an hour. Then Axl and Izzy will go on afterwards - if you believe the club manager. Apparently the bar manager is telling people Axl and Izzy will play an accoustic set with no band. If they don't show up, Hells Bells has been asked to be ready to play a second set.


from AXLGUNNER:

update from darknemus (who got an update from mike91):

he's waiting in line, about 150 people in line now. expects to be inside in about 15 minutes. there is at least one trailer in the back.


(ps- welcome to the jungle just popped up on 92.3 krock )

Looks kinda obvious whats happening then .. 1st an ac/dc cover band and then a GNR cover band.  :confused: pathetic.

even if axl and izzy were going to play .. why would it be billed as "guns n roses" ?! and axl and izzy doing a 3 hour acoustic set? thats retarded .. this is all insane. what a load of BS. lol

This is so god damn weird!

 I belive Axl and Izzy never had anythig against eachother, so.. who knows...

IMO there will be no gnr cover band. i think hells bells will just play a double set and that will be all...

wouldnt the club owner been smarter and just said AC/DC were playing the rather promote GNR as being there?

very fucking weird stuff. lol

this is funny shit.

GNR Camp wants the fans to know that the Atlanta GA show Advertised for tonight concerning the appearance of W. Axl Rose is completely Bogus. Thank you,

Sean (BP) GUNSNROSES.US // ChineseDemocracy.com

http://www.chinesedemocracy.com/viewtopic.php?t=6332

Prove it.  ;D GNR camp who?

not if the club owner actually believes he has a contract stating that axl will show up.

very true my friend. very true.  : ok:

according to reliable source at mygnr a friend of hers was shown the contract which turned out to looke quite legitimate.... in her words "wierd"

Jonx

axl and Izzy will be there soon.

..... just a lil patience.  ;D

not.  :peace:

oh yeah --- for more than a year "Gn'r camp" (whoever that is, or whoever thinks he is) has been silent, and five minutes before another "no-show" hoax kicks off (or more likely doesn't kick off) they're suddenly concerned about the fans

this is just as credible as anything

Merck basically told AP the same thing yesterday. "Axl will not be there" were his words.





/jarmo

Maybe if axl would just post on this board and say he wont be there everyone will believe.

No they wouldn't......

Axl could go on TV telling people he wasn't gonna be there and people would say "Good one Axl! We know you're gonna be there! You can't fool us!"




/jarmo

Man it's like 2AM here in France and I'm checkin the board just in case. I'm totally insane. ;D

Gotta get a beer! lol

When he doesnt show and there is a riot they will blame him for it and call him an asshole for not showing.

Yes you are.... ?:P


I just wonder what those people expecting to see Axl will do once they announce "Unfortunately, Axl and Izzy decided not to play for you guys, but here's another set from the AC/DC tribute band......"




/jarmo

fact is , if axl WANTS to go to atlanta and play a gig with izzy without merck knowing or whatever he can. hell maybe he told merck "make sure to deny the rumors , I want this to be an intimate gig , I dont need those hardcore HTGTH fans there.

lol , but seriously .. we all know this isnt going to happen.

right?!  :confused:

150 shit kickers somewhere in a small town in atlanta doesnt equal a riot.  ::) worst case scneario is some rtedneck goes to his truck and pulls a gun from his gun rack thats on his back window and starts shooting members of an ac/dc cover band.

seems more and more likely, with the mention of Hells Bells being ready to play a second set, that the plan is to say Axl bailed. ?>:(

How can axl bail if he was never going toshow in the first place?

I hope you know I was kidding... ;) Just got home from a party and had to check the board like I do every night.

And I also kinda knew Axl would show up.



;D


Btw, I guess people are just gonna trash the place and Axl will get blamed for "not showing up" to a show management said never existed.

eva said the plan was to say axl bailed.  : ok:

I am talking about the venue saying that, not eva

well the venue has a signed contract they believe is from axl.

so you cant blame then.  :rofl:

axl fucking over his fans again.   :peace:

Just because them claim they do, does not mean they really do have it.

well from all accounts they are showing what they BELIVE is a valid contract to people. who knows? ???

axl and izzy , two small town white boys who grew up together ... jamming on a 2 hour acoustic set. that would be major kickass. lol

I Axl has nothing to do with this. Im sure he dont even know about the show.. ?:confused:

REALLY?!   :o

 ::)

please help me out on this:

the management said that Axl is not going to be there
but they did not confirm that they have taken action to stop the venue from claiming it

did I get it right? But that would the first thing I'd do if my client was facing possible negative press ---

you are correct!

can someone summarize what has happened since 4pm eastern time?

i don't want to read thru mygnr.com to find out

Venue still claims Axl and izzy are playing.
Gnr management and merk say he is not.
Fans are going to a show axl wont be at.

lol, thanks

that was a very brief summary  ;D

Merck & the Camp wants all the fans to know this is bogus

Message comes to me tonight in which he expresses that he wants all fans to know Axl Rose is not performing. ?

-Sean (BP) GUNSNROSES.US // ChineseDemocracy.com

didnt you allready post that once?

not here ;)  between htgth & cd.com =  covers things

thanks

not only do Gn'r push their record release date beyond all imaginable boundaries

they're also not subject to the laws of logic and professional business conduct

and if goldstein was still the manager I would blame it all on him.  :rofl:

but merck is really hands on they say. merck is on the ball as it pertains to axl!

was axl ever expected to appear in atlanta? *shakes majic 8 ball* "not likely"

but has merck spoken to axl in the last 30 days? *shakes majoc 8 ball* "no"

 : ok:

Nothing new? Well, then im going to bed! Listening to Zepplin 1.... ! Good Night  :-*

Anyone who actually thought this was going to happen for longer than a second needs to seriously learn some gnr street smarts, hell...common sense.

I am really curious who exactly is taking the stage tonight.

 An update from mike91, but not a great one.

His quotes: "people are starting to get pretty pissed around here because of all the rumors flying around"

""people are starting to threaten to burn this place down - but hopefully thats just talk"

Then he said he wouldn't be able to hear for much longer (apparently Hells Bells will be going on soon) - so he will call me with another update when he can.

Live, as it happens, this is GNR news! - or, something like that... sorry, I'm doing tequila shots, so I'm a bit loopy.

-darknemus

 Hells Bells will be going on in five minutes

 Hells Bells is apparently starting to play right now.

IT'S 10 PM ... DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR AXL IS? ? :P







For those of youze outside the NYC viewing area that's a play on the Channel 5 News Public Service Announcement: ?It's 10 PM ... Do you know where your children are?

Shocking....

Updates on a night out somewhere in Georgia? We have more updates on this than we had of the GN'R shows in 2002..... :hihi:



/jarmo

I know this show is unlikely...but my fuckin' fingers are crossed! I mean shit if the place is STILL goin' on that they are playing....? who knows!?

What else can they say?

"Sorry, we were fooled into signing a fake contract."?





/jarmo

 Hells Bells just started at 10.
They're supposed to play for an hour -- but will extend or play another set if Axl doesn't show. So, we still have more time to wait.

 :rofl:

Oh my God.... Make it seem like Axl cancelled. ?:no:


/jarmo

Im just posting this news from the two main sources from mygnr

I know you are. But if the club says that they'll let the other band play a longer set "if Axl doesn't show up", then they're making it sound like he was supposed to show up.




/jarmo

 An update from mike91 - I'll do my best to quote him

"Hey Craig, i dont know if this is total bullshit or not.. but the tribute band here just announced Guns n' Roses are here.. again, could be total BS, but that's what they said"

Oh, and he has heard someone there also discussing a tourbus, but has not physically seen it, himself.

-darknemus

Yeah, that's what he just told me.  Trying to get confirmation that Hells Bells announced that from a second source, but no luck yet.

-darknemus

this is kinda fun....who wants to do it again next week?

how about the Slippery Noodle in Indianapolis??? :hihi:

I bet it's Lil' GnR

"tommy stinson is here, nobody has seen axl, or finck, or izzy"

j


that was posted at mygnr.com

from mygnr, eh? I think the source speaks for itself, not you dolphin but the board.

LOL a few people have said theyve seen Tommy but no one else

Well, fuck...if Tommy's there...this could be the real deal!

I'm sorry, but this is entertaining as hell! ?Didn't have this cell phone, internet live update back in my youth! ?And I'm not that old!!

I've been coming here for a pretty long time now, and only felt the need to post 11 times before.

so this all is filtering through darknemus?

-BP

No he is in contact with people at the club

watch it be something like gunz n rosez ( a cover band)

Negative, I am in touch with two people at the club.. there are also independent posters there - one posting from his Blackberry.

-darknemus

Madison is reporting very similar things from her "sources" at the show.

for the record, i don't buy into the tommy sighting

This report just in: ?Axl Rose is currently in the basement of his Malibu home watching porno with his dick in one hand and a bag of Star Wars Cheetos in the other.


-Banny

Madison is also reporting that she can't get any confirmation that Tommy has been sighted.

FYI, the "Tommy sighting" didn't come from dark or the people he's talking to, I don't think.

like I said earlier i bet Axl is reading this thread right now having a good laugh.

At least it's a timekiller on an otherwise boring night :P

i second that. I came on here before, and decided to come back. I'm curious as hell as to what's going on.

well, one thing will come of this.

if axl sees any of it, he'll see how much we want him to come back and reclaim what is rightfully his and that is greatest frontman of all time. : ok:

Or how pathetic we are because merk and that other guy said Axl is not showing and we are still waiting to hear that he wasnt there.

thanx dark-

Now I can use a break from this trek series. ? so for any of you who want to get some sleep, trust me that this thing is a hoax. ?xxoo -bp

hells bells set is over.
j tells me the only good news is that miller lite is now on special for anyone wearing a gnr shirt. that's it.

thor


 :hihi:

Hey, im home and my girlfriends not in town, whats everyone else's excuse!?!

I'm home, not tired, and my husband is in bed. And I have nothing better to do, and tv is boring.  :P

 update from mike91, not much, really.

He called me but couldn't hear me at ALL (its really fucking loud there) - so I said I'd text him, I did, with this" We've heard that someone might have seen Tommy there - any idea if its true"

His response "No idea too many people"

I'd imagine the place is getting more crowded, but that's speculation based on the noise level from when he called.

Fair enough ;)

i have been working since 5:30pm and getting paid for it while posting here :D

oh, I forgot that reading the 115 page thread on mygnr is entertaining, especially when 3-4 pages of it was nothing but arguing about which wrestlers were dead. I go back and forth from site to site.


from mygnr

We were told this a week ago, go figure.

More specifically...from ME (pilferk) at mygnr.

:)

sorry. i've never been to mygnr before tonight. I don't know how many people from here post there. My bad.

No biggie! :)

Just wanted to point out who it was from....

ok. the quote I posted is from   ^
                                                           ;D

This is dull. ?Anyone wanna play a game?

I spy with my little eye...something purple.

Give up?


It's my penis head.

I've been trying to call Adler 'cause he's been buddies with Izzy lately...if he's there, too...FUCK!

 Ok, another update, this one from outtagetme (who has left the place)

he basically says the owner is full of crap. Also the bar is filming a commercial for themselves, there are camera crews and stuff of that nature there.

The last conversation he had with the owner apparently resulted in the owner basically saying well you paid for an AC/DC tribute band with the hope that GNR showed up. He said he left because he doesn't think anything is going to happen.. also said he sees no tourbus outside.

Make of it what you will - keep in mind my last conversation with mike91, which was a very brief one, had him telling me had had no new news and he'd call me as soon as something changed.. the place sounds SLAMMED though.

-darknemus

Man if the owner told me that I'd punch him in his Trachea and then shove the ticket that says "Guns N Roses" down his fucking throat, then proceed to rip apart that club board by board.

AGAIN WE WERE TOLD THIS A WEEK AGO!!!!!

what an asshole
they are just gonna play like 'oh axl didn't show up'  >:(

Nothing like trusting a guy named mike91.

From here on out I wanna be known as Banny91.


-Banny

Lame. How many dumbasses paid to be at this thing?

Yeah but Axl does like to make audiences wait....maybe they'll go like super late. The camera crews indicates to me something bigger than a commercial!

I am sorry, but if they are filming a freakin' commercial for their bar knowing damn well that GnR aren't (were never) going to show up the owner deserves to have his place destoryed. ?That is just bullshit. ?I mean, I beat 99% of the people their aren't "smarts" or come to GnR boards or read press releases on-line. ?That is totally taking advantage of people, I'd burn the fucker down.

It makes you wonder what the hell the owner was/is thinking.  Sure you get a ton of people in and make money, but errr......doesn't he know this isn't going to end well at all?  Very, very odd.

Like maybe the news crews.....awaiting the riot?

The story did get AP coverage....

All those people shouldl sue the club.

This just in from my source at The Coyote: Axl and Izzy just came out and played "My World" (Izzy playing a crappy little Radio Shack keybord), flipped off the audience, then left. ?They are both now reportedly backstage jacking off to asian porn and eating Star Wars Cheetos.



-Banny91

I don't know why but I think this thing is gonna happen...

lmao @ banny!

CNN REPORTS : CLUB IN FLAMES!!!!!


hahaha , no , not really.  ::)

hah!  ;D   &   :beer:   TGIF!

(well, we know what Banny91 has been doing...)

Yes exactly!

Hey...Star Wars Cheetos crumbs make a suprisingly good lubricant.

Stop with all the Cheeto's chat..........I got the muchies like a mother and now I am fien'in for Cheeto's........Mmmmmmmmm........processed powder cheese.........

that's wayyyyyy more than I ever needed to know. ? :-\

imagine if izzy and axl do an acoustuic version of "one in a million" ?!

LIKE OMFG!  ::)

I bet they are doing it right now!   :hihi:   :rofl:

 :peace:

Seriously, guys. ?I am on my 10th Killians now and I am starting to really wonder why I have held out so long for Axl and this fucking album.

Thank God Trent has a new album coming out in less than two weeks.



-Bann91


P.S. Star Wars Cheetos RULE!!!!

Well, a friend who spoke to someone there told me that the owner/manager went up onstage and told everyone that GNR wouldn't be showing up afterall. He then offered free drinks/shots for as long as Hells Bells continued to play.

That's it folks.



from madison at mygnr.com :)

BRB - Gotta run to the store
...for some Star Wars Cheetos and Asian porn

Surprise, surprise. the owner gives away free drinks to make his club look like a hoppin' joint. Expect lawsuits by patrons and maybe something from gnr.

I was waiting for someone else to post that.

what is axhole at this very moment magic 8ball?

*shakes magic 8 balll*

answer : on treadmill uttering strange mantra "I'll be back , I'll be back"

 :nervous:

 :hihi:  :beer:

"THOR, G'N R DEF. NOT SHOWING UP. OWNER A COCKSUCKER. Ticket says Hells Bells featuring Guns N Roses. WTF? NEWAY, I Am going to the hotel. I'll call you later. Everyone is really REALLY pissed, alothough there are free drinks the rest of the night. Two arrests. that's all from here. POst this to the forum. Peeps will be PISSED.

From Outtagetme :

The club manager has just announced Guns N' Roses will be out to play at 12:30!

I can't believe this guy (club owner) would be so stupid to do this. How can anybody be so stupid, and think this is not going to cause them trouble financially?

some people have no buisness being in buisness. billing GNR?! Unless you haveGNR dont bill GNR!

weird stuff.  ???

Umm, outtagetme left the club already, so I doubt he posted that anywhere.

-darknemus

This is all bullshit im off to bed..Why the fuck to people have to lie

Could not agree more........just doesn't make ANY freakin' sense, why a bar owner would do this. ?Lord knows I would never even try a stunt like this and my bar is in the hippy peace loving city of Portland, Oregon! ?

Sure he did.....

Well...did Hell's Bells AT LEAST play Whole Lotta Rosie?





-Banny91

Well, this was amusing for a few hours.  Gonna walk down to the mini mart for beer and those sweet, sweet CHEETO'S! : ok:

Late.

Anyone who really believed GNR was showing up there is a complete retard......regardless of what the owner was saying. Gnr is not going to show up and play some Hoedunk bar in Atlanta with no promotion. I don't care what the owner was saying or what the tickets said, everyone knew the hole thing was a farce.

People do this stuff where they here a rumor and they hold out hope it could possibly come true even though they say otherwise, then when the event passes and nothing ever happens get all huffy about how they are pissed that people would make that up, or get GNR fans hopes up, or piss off Axl.

Just don't ever believe anything you read or hear about the band unless you hear it directly from Axl's mouth. Even then don't count your chickens before they hatch because half the time he barely knows whats going on with his own band. So the moral of the story is believe nothing from anyone's mouth unless you see a GNR album on the store shelf, or you see Axl on stage with your own 2 eyes.

Those are the only 2 situations in which I would recommend ever getting excited about anything GNR related.

That is a bit harash man, I mean yea us marks who visist these boards and actually keep up on GnR on a semi-regular basis should know better.  But, Joe Average Semi Fan doesn't.  I mean if the radio station he listens to promotes it, and the bar is selling tickets for it, you can't call him a "retard" for believing it.

This just in: Axl Rose was recently spotted in a Mailbu Blockbuster Video renting a copy of "Coyote Ugly".? He was also reportedly carrying a grocery bag containing Star Wars Cheetos and Johnson & Johnson's baby oil.

This may be how this rumor got started in the first place.



-Banny91

well, that was fun. I find it interesting that there are still 19 guests on here, plus the other registered members. But, it is 1am my time, and I am beat. I am going to bed, I guess I will sift through what's left of this thread in the morning.

dito

I have to admit, I hoped that it was a video shoot or something like they did before the illusions tours. You know, when they went in LA, then San Fran, then NYC, all unannounced until the day of or so... But it also occurred to me, even those were a big deal... So while I hoped for us all, I also knew there was less than 1% it would happen (but in GNR world who knows).

While i would not have wasted my money on things, you cant help but feel bad for the poor saps who actually paid 20 dollars to go. As most people do not follow these message boards, or anything, they get sucked into the lies and cheats who pray on the hope and excitement of the long suffering GNR fan who only has the dream that this will be the time. Sadly they are all going home 20 dollars more broke.

I do not believe a single person who is not a troll on this board did not at least for a second think that it would be awesome if this was the start... If it was some wierd way to get things rolling either for a video shoot or something. Sure, common sense probably took over but still, for that brief second I bet most of you at least wanted it to happen.

u people really disappoint me on this board sometimes.


how could any of u be stupid enough to believe that AXL FUCKIN ROSE would make his comeback in a little shitty fuckin nightclub and with Izzy Stradlin at that.

bit of advice

when GNR come back it will be something huge! no bullshit like this or a song leaked on the radio

they will need as much publicity as possible so stop believing bullshit like this.

i was an hour and  a half from atlanta today but did i go to this club?

fuck no

why

because it was 100 percent clear as day to see this was bullshit.

i dont know why any of u are disappointed, i mean u really thought this was true?

come on guys, use your common sense.

I agree in your philosphical viewpoints, but they most likely will play a teaser show at a small club, albeit a famous one like the Cat Club, or Ritz.

Right.? I'm a couple hours away and I thought about making the trip just in case. ?But common sense did take over. ?I hate to say it, but I'm glad it was a hoax all along.? I don't think I could've lived with myself had it turned out to be true and I missed it.

I absolutley agree. If you're a regular reader of this, or another message board, and still went to this hillbilly club expecting to see GnR, you got exactly what was coming to you. How many times can you be told that there's no fucking way GnR is playing before you believe it.
Yes, if the average georgia fan heard the promotion, went to the club, paid the cover and expected to see GnR, they have a right to be pissed. But anyone on this board, with half a freaking brain who went has got to be a complete and total idiot. And I mean that in a nice way. I love guns fans, but good god, there is no way in hell this would happen. Listen to logic. Listen to Jarmo. Listen to Management. C'mon...for gods' sake!

The funny thing with that logic is.......Gee, I don't know I had tickets to the Vancouver show in 2002 and that wasn't a "hillbilly club" and it was "confirmed by management" by guess what no show.................Actually how many shows on that OFFICAL tour could you say that about?  Geez, almost all of the North American dates.........

So don't feed me some bullshit line about "well it wasn't offical and management didn't confirm it"  Because even when they do, still a 90% chance Axl will flip or not show or some other lame ass exuse.

That's a completely different issue...  ::)

What I don't understand...if GNR's mngmnt will go as far as to place cease n desist orders for people on the internet, how in the hell could they allow this get so out of control?
Is it at all possible that there may have been some intent on GNR's part to play, but maybe Axl didn't feel up to it at the last minute?
Not to be naive, but how could this have gone as far as it did!?

well I'm glad I didn't stay up


we had this before but it was exactly my question: they can make the venue stop selling tickets in the blink of an eye. If you make false allegations you'll practically be sued in a matter of hours --- so how could the club promote this stuff for like two weeks or something?

I just think this infamous "Gn'r camp" doesn't give a damn about nothing --- neither about the fans nor about their own client Axl?

You should have called Axl a "heel". That would have made my day.

I think the reason management didnt do anythin is because they knew any real GnR fan wouldve known it was a fake. It would have been pretty cool, were it to have happened, but it was pretty obvious from the start that it wasnt going to happen.

Management is not only for "real fans" or whatever that means.

K why do people call this a little shit club..Its bigger then the shows Axl played in Vegas in 2001..And why didnt managment sue the bar owner or stop him from selling tickets before that night if they knew nothing was planned and he was lying?

yeah --- it's not their job to bother what fans believe or don't believe.

their job is to keep their clients out of trouble, and we're talking about a legal issue here ---

dropping AP a line after being requested to do so and passing on word via dubious internet "sources" does not seem too professional to me

maybe they're just too busy with other burning issues so they don't have no time to care for representing the greatest rock band in the world

Besides the original line-up performing together, how much more HUGE could a GNR fan hope for than a GNR show w/special guest Izzy Stradlin??!!??!!??? :confused:

How do you prove he was lying? He claims he had a contract with Axl.

I guess first you need to prove the contract isn't a valid one.... We don't know why they didn't stop them. Maybe they couldn't or just thought they did enough already.


Merck told AP Axl wasn't gonna be there. Somehow you'd think that piece of info would trickle down to some of the people who thought GN'R were playing. Maybe the radio station promoting the show could've mentioned in on the air.....

You can't expect Merck to fly down there and stand outside the bar handing out flyers saying "Axl's not performing tonight".





/jarmo

that would have been a nice gesture on his part

I won't even suggest the possibility of running a decent official website

"I do not believe a single person who is not a troll on this board did not at least for a second think that it would be awesome if this was the start... If it was some wierd way to get things rolling either for a video shoot or something. Sure, common sense probably took over but still, for that brief second I bet most of you at least wanted it to happen."

So true.

i think it got some of us ready to jump at anything coming our way from g n' r.
 :beer: :smoking:
show em my moto'
peace and chicken grease !

I smell a lawsuit in all of this. At the very least the club owner should go after guy who came up with the contract for GNR to show up if indeed he is really telling the truth that he was duped.

And yes I do wish GNR did show.

 Here's what happened: (APPARENTLY)

At the door, the manager explained that he couldn't promise Guns N' Roses and charged $15 instead of $20. He also passed out copies of the "contract" he had. It's 4 pages long and I can scan it in if anybody is interested. Then everybody sat around until 10:40 until Hells Bells came out. At around 11:30 the manager got on stage and said "I've been looking for their tour bus, but I ain't seen it yet. So, Hells Bells is going to keep playing." At midnight the manager got back up there and said "I guess they're not coming so I have 6 bottles of Jack Daniels, drinks are free while Hells Bells is playing." At that point, my friend and I left. Behind us was a steady stream of other people leaving, too.

thanks a lot dude

if it doesn't cause you too much trouble could you put the contract online

True as that is, jarmo, you'd think management would do a little more than tell some internet message boards and then eventually tell the AP it wasn't happening. Only like 3 people from the boards went to the show. All those local people got screwed. I heard the place held 2,000 people and the board members that were there said it was packed, so 1,997 people got ripped off (I'm sure I'm exagerrating a bit). One would also think this news from the AP would reach any of the people that went to the club last night, it really sucks that it didn't. Does anyone remember what happened with the Hungary concert hoax? Did management step in or did people just find out it was fake on their own?
      I really expected management to issue a cease and desist order or something along those lines, but as far as I know nothing like that ever happened. These guys might just get away with scamming all those people (and I thought all along that it was the club being scammed, not the club doing the scamming). Hopefully the guy with the contract will post it, but even so, you'd think that weeks of the club promoting GNR would be there through clear phone messages, fliers, and the radio stations that that would be enough for some kind of lawsuit. I hope all those that went to the club will at least get some satisfaction (either getting money back somehow or winning a class action lawsuit). I hate to see any fan conned, whether they be GNR fans or not.

LMFAO ... 6 bottles? Thats it?!  :rofl:

THIS WAS POSTED BY A BOARD MEMBER WHO ATTENDED

ATLANTA, GA- Well, what can I say...? This was the funniest shit I have probably ever taken part in. We pulled into Cartersville around 7:30pm. It took me nearly 1hr to get there from the part of Atlanta. I was corresponding with Gibson from the forum on my way there. She had the day off of work and arrived at Coyote's around 4:30. This is how I was getting the reports of the equipment being unloaded from the white semi-truck and the sound-check information.

We turned onto the street where the bar is at and just like Gibson's report to me, there was a small parking lot roped off and everyone was parking in the strip mall parking lot across the street from the bar. There were alot of people walking there and the line was forming. As I was driving, I took a picture of the bar with my camera phone and relayed it to Darknemus. I didn't get the feeling that the bar would sell out of tickets right away and the line wasn't that long to me, so my girlfriend and I went to get dinner at this good local place called the "Backstreet Diner", located 1 block away from Coyote's.

I had my GNR shirt on and the owner of the restaurant was a nice, small town guy who struck up a conversation with me about Coyote's and the possibility of Guns N' Roses being there. The rumor had been spreading around the little town for a couple weeks according to him and his comment in reference to the bar owner was "I am really hoping Axl Rose shows up. He (bar owner, Pete) really needs this. He hasn't been doing so well lately. They used to get up-and-coming country bands that might have a song that you've heard on the radio, but all the sudden, he stopped getting these bands to play there." - so right there, made me think, this guy is looking for the publiciity. We ate our food, the restaurant owner let me park my car in the parking lot, I called Gibson for an update on our way out of the restaurant and she said that they were searching everyone and they were being strict. I have an expensive Palm Trio camera/video phone that I didn't really want taken away, so I left it in the car and used my girlfriend's phone for the rest of the night. This is why I only got 1 picture of the place.

We got up to Coyote's around 8:15 and there wasn't a line anymore. The owner stood outside and looked like he was running a shady strip club. He had a cheap-looking double-breasted black suit on with a black, ratty-looking tuxedo shirt on underneath his coat. He just looked really sketchy. He had photo copies of his contract and a copy of the FedEx slip used in corresponding with the "promoter". He was stopping everyone to tell them that he had copies of his Agreement with the band and that Axl Rose and original members were supposed to show up between 10pm and 10:30pm. He said that he talked with the promoter at 9pm on Thursday night and he assured him that Guns N' Roses would play. He said that because we were skeptical and "knowing Axl's reputation", they were dropping the ticket prices from $20.00 each to $15.00. I would have paid $20.00 but that was even better. I figured that $30.00 would be worth the entertainment weather Axl showed up or not. There were several people outside with the contract in hand and they were all trying to call the phone numbers. Someone told me that they were fake- one was disconnected and the other was busy. My girlfriend has a copy of the contract in her purse, but I remember it saying that the bar was obligated to pay a $1,500 advance for the band to show up. $1,500 isn't shit!!! This guy is not out any money whatsoever, unless he gets sued. So we walked in to see what was going on.

The place was a real shithole. It sort of looked like the inside of Porky's riverboat in the Porky's movies. There were all of these security guys everywhere that appeared to be temporary hires. I don't imagine that too many black guys would work with these redneck people every weekend. I saw that you guys were talking about wrestling earlier. The main security guy looked like Catus Jack. He had a black leather vest and leather pants and was fucking huge! It seemed like he was in control of everything that was going on from a security standpoint.

We met up with Gibson and then Mike. It was cool to meet forum members. We all hung out all night. Mike's friend that was there with him had to be the drunkest guy in the bar. He was fucking hilarious! He was on the dance floor all over this dirty slutbag who seemed like she might be a Coyote's regular. That was entertainment. He, like everyone else in the place seemed to be having a good time. When I looked around, I never had the feeling that any of the people there were capable of causing trouble if they found out that everything was a hoax. 90% of the people there didn't even seem like they gave a shit if GN'R were there or not. There were about 500-600 people in the whole place- not 2,000. The Braves/Phillies game was on a large projection screen that covered the entire stage. From what I could see, the owner hired a production company that had quite a stage set-up for a bar like that. This explains the semi truck. They kept playing country music and a little Usher and shit like that all night.

The owner was clearly taking advantage of the situation he created by promoting GNR. The beers were $4.00 for 16 oz plastic bottles- Mike said that they were only $2.00 two weeks ago when here was there to get his voucher. There was a film crew walking around with video cameras and filming these fat chicks tearing up the dance floor. we asked some of the crew what was going on and they told us that they were filming a new commercial for the bar. There's no way I would be caught dead in their commercial.... In the meantime, the owner walked all over the place like he was on a mission and that he was getting ready for Axl's big arrival. Every time I would go to take a piss, there would be a few people in the bathroom saying things like "this is bullshit!" "Axl is a fucking asshole!" etc. A few people seriously asked me if I thought he would show up.

The AC/DC band took the stage around 11pm or so. The lead singer had long hair and the Angus guy, was kind of good, but really- Is Axl really going to allow a tribute band to open for him anywhere? NO. By this point, the club was still only 1/3 full. There was a lot of room to walk around the the balcony around the place seemed relatively empty. My girlfriend was a good sport about being there. She stood around and talked with Mike and Gibson all night but she didn't feel like being there and was getting tired of standing around. They did remove all the tables and chairs from the place. I recognized that she was ready to leave and I was sure that nothing was going to happen. I went and found the owner one more time and and asked him where Axl was, and he told me that he would be there in 20 minutes. We waited 20 minutes and left. We were out of there by 11:30-11:45.

I see this whole deal as a night that I will be laughing about for years to come. It was cool being in the same place with so many people wearing GN'R shirts- I had not seen that since I saw the real Axl in Chicago in 2002. I enjoyed meeting Mike and Gibson and will try to hang out again with them at the Velvet Revolver show coming up. BTW, I wouldn't be surprised if they comment about this deal on stage. VR will be here teh day after my birthday- May 6th. It was cool playing reporter to Darknemus so you could all be updated.

I only drove 45 mintes- 1 hour to see this circus of bullshit. I feel bad for this girl at the door when I got there. The owner gave his disclaimer speech to her and she said "I'm not turning away now after driving 2 days to get here".

I don't know.... I sort of think we need to ban together and take down this bar. Anyone have any good ideas? Let's call the major news papers and see if they are interested in taking up the story.

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Why would a contract constantly mispell the bands name? Its Guns N Roses and not Guns and Roses.  :no: Sure its small but damn.

Honestly someone should get sued. Sure it is a small place but this is fraud and frankly there will be some people that think the real band crapped on everyone once again. I am guessing this management company is a sham or something. How long until they get called by fellow boarders I wonder?!?  ;D

see this shit pisses me off

Axl is getting blamed by stupid, fuckin ignorant people

u are not a GNR fan or an Axl Rose fan if u blame him for this bullshit and i petition that whoever calls axl any sort of name in regards to this hoax, should be banned immediately


im tired of this bullshit

im tired of so-called fans talkin shit about Axl when he had nothing to do with Atlanta.

Axl has missed a few shows things are so misleading

Axl has missed let's see, Montreal,Vancouver and Philly

3 shows out of what 500?

hardly 90%

Support Axl or please shut the hell up!!!!!!!!!!


GNR right now are Axl,Dizzy,Chris,Richard,Robin,Tommy and Brain


Izzy Stradlin will not be associated with GNR

im sorry some of u cant get off the fact that their is a new lineup

but those who are waiting for some old member to walk through the door, need to open their eyes and realize that its over

a new era of GNR is upon us.

Get the fuck over it already!

GOD DAMN IT!


some people dont deserve to even listen to Chinese Democracy

the negative retarded bullshit is so ridiculous.

Hey D, that is the best post I have read in a very long time about the band! My sentiments exactly. I kinda wish I had wrote it cos it says it all how it should be!! I just hope certain people read it and take note of it cos there are way to many ignorant and negative people out there! Brilliant!

Although I knew Guns n' Roses wouldn't show up in Cartersville, GA, my best friend & I being long time fans drove the 45 mins to the club to see what was happening.  The owner/manager (his name is Pete Grim/Coyote's) of the club stood outside and gave the same speech to everyone & handed out copies of his "contract" he had w/ Bryant Management to prove that what he was saying was true.  The contract has "Guns and Roses" throughout the document but it did manage to spell g-n-r correctly a few times.  It specifically states that Axl Rose would be appearing w/ other original members of the band.  My friend and I stood and listened for 2 hrs just to see what he would say.  Two cops eventually showed up, took him inside & came back out w/ copies of the contract in their hands. 

Pete kept stating that he didn't know what to tell everyone b/c a lot a rumors had been circulating on the local radio stations, internet, etc.  He said that all he knew was that he had a signed contract & made a deposit for g-n-r to perform.  He continued by saying that based on Axl Rose's past behavior, he didn't know if he would show up or not.  He stated that at least 3 times in the time we stood out there.  He dropped the cover charge from $20 to $15 and said that if g-n-r didn't show up, he'd make an announcement and the opening act, Hell's Bells (an AC/DC cover band) would play an extra set.

I have a copy the contract and he included a copy his check that he sent the management company along w/ the fed-ex slip proving that he mailed it.  I used my cell phone & attempted to call all the numbers listed on the contract & each number was invalid.  I asked him if he ever saw anything in writing from the band & he said that he saw Axl's signature which I found interesting considering that he wasn't handing out copies of that contract.  He proceeded to tell us that the booking agent told him he would send birth certificates of the band members if necessary (yeah, right).     

When I asked him about the phone numbers being invalid, he said that the guy must have changed his cell number.  However, he kept telling everyone that he talked to the booking guy as late as 9pm the previous night???????????  I wonder how he was able to reach him.......

Of course, he came on stage at one point to tell everyone that they hadn't shown up yet but they were still looking for the tour bus.  About 20 mins later he finally came back & said they weren't going to show.  To make up for that, he gave everyone free shots of Jack Daniels.

This guy seemed like such a con artist, you were wondering where his top hat was and expected to see him twirling his mustache like those guys in the carnivals trying to sell their "magic tonic".   Someone should sue this guy.

Just to clarify ---  no one is blaming Axl Rose.  This is in defense of Axl.  The club owner obviously lied (or someone did) and s/b sued for slander or whatever.  He's using Axl as a scapegoat & trying to make money off of their name and reputation.

this is the funniest thing i've heard in a while-   i hope it happens again next week

yeah but a lot of people at that club were sayin Fuck Axl he's an asshole blah blah blah

Its cool if people went or whatever, but i dont wanna hear any bullshit on here or digs at Axl because of some bastard conartist club owner.

I look for a lawsuit soon.

Axl will show up with original members?

When this thing explodes, it will be huge, no sneaking around bullshit.

the single will hit radio like a bullet, they will be all over TV, this isnt something that people are gonna have to sneak around and get lucky to see.

u cant be private in show business, they need as much publicity as possible, so its not gonna be done in secret.

Duff is wrong

u can write a simple rock song in 5 minutes but i dont believe that is what axl has in mind.

see, that's the problem... those people at the bar probably never heard that merck said this wasn't happening... hence they assumed axl just decided to no-show (as he has a history of doing at the last minute, and also as the bar manager seemed to imply to the audience)... so that's why they said axl was an asshole...

as i have said FOR THE PAST 2 WEEKS... management needed to do more than they did to stop the show from happening, or at the least make sure that EVERYONE who was thinking of going to the show knew that it WOULD NOT happen... IMO, management didn't do this enough, which is why it resulted in many people having a bad impression of axl after the show. and for anyone who says management may have done all they could, well i can think of a dozen more things they could have done to easily fix this situation.

so don't bitch at those people at the club who actually thought it was axl's fault. i'm sure if they knew that merck said it wasnt happening, they wouldnt have blamed axl.

wow, do you really believe this?

you're telling me that if i write up a phony contract with a made-up phone number that doesnt work, that I too can start selling tickets saying that guns n roses will be appearing at my club in new york city... and that management HAS NO WAY TO PROVE I'M LYING??? wow! i'm totally gonna do that!

sheesh? :yes:... of course management COULD HAVE stopped this (see: Budapest). the fact is they didn't stop it, and i feel like the reason they didn't is the second reason you gave: they thought they did enough. Well, frankly, they clearly did NOT do enough (see: over 500 people showing up and paying money to see gnr, leading many of them to call axl an asshole because they thought he no-showed). it has been blatantly clear that they only wanted to exert minimal effort over this incident, and they felt like that was enough... which i think is very rude towards gnr's fans.

why you keep sticking up for management is beyond me. they made a mistake in how they handled this? :no:

anybody dumb enough to think Axl Rose would play a small dive place like that deserves to be ripped off.

there are a lot of people who aren't hardcore gnr fans but just casual fans. do they deserve to be ripped off just because they aren't familiar with axl rose's personal preferences?

plus, the place held 2000 people, and supposedly used to get decent bands to perform there... so maybe some locals wouldnt see it as such a 'small dive place'?

I guess if recording an album that sells 20 million copies worldwide in under 2 months is wrong, then I wouldn't want to be right. Appetite had some of the best guitar work of any album ever recorded, not to mention 3 anthem type songs that have withstood the test of time.

I know Axl doesn't want to just "make rock songs", but there is nothing he could be recording that is worth the time it has taken. 50 years from now every arena in the world will still be playing WTTJ, regardless of what is on CD. And SCOM will still be at the top of every guitar solo list, regardless of what is on CD. So I don't understand what he intends to record that is going to stand up and be remembered any better than Appetite is. Appetite shows that an inspired band can record a classic album very quickly......that is why Duff and everyone else that laughs at Axl is not wrong. Axl can spend 10 more years on it, and the first comment out of everyone's mouth will still be something along the lines of "why did it take so long" or "was this really 10 years worth better than Appetite was". And those are very valid and legitimate questions.

Excessive Time does not equate being better. What it means is you were either struggling to come up with ideas or whatever you recorded is crap. Otherwise there would be no need to continue tinkering and re-recording if you were truly happy with what you had recorded.

motley crue songs are played in arenas everywhere still as well, I dont think a song being a hit in arenas means anything.

just cause a song isnt played at sporting events doesnt make it any less classic.

also No album in the history of music has ever sold 20million copies in 2 months, 20 million in 18 years though would be accurate.

once again it hasnt been 10 years, i am gonna scream if i have to keep correcting people about this

Duff was still in the fuckin band 10 years ago.

axl spent several years getting familiar with computer technology, finding new band members with the right chemistry and working on music.

I would say they've been working on it for 6 years or so which is still a long time but we dont know what all has went on behind the scenes.

everyone's problem is Appetite For Destruction, people need to get off that cd, it was great an amazing album but not everything has to be judged against that cd.

i enjoy the illusions just as much if not more than AFD, there are other albums i hold in the same regard if not higher than Appetite For Destruction.

this isnt gonna be AFD part 2, just like VR wont be able to recreate AFD part 2

doesnt mean the songs wont be any less kick ass, but its not gonna be like Appetite, they are older,richer and in a different mindset now.

so the music will be great but different.

Estranged is my fav GNR song of all time but its not on the radio or played in arenas

i could give a fuck about commercial appeal or success but i guarantee it has a great shot at blowing everything GNR have done away with me and thats all i care about.

dude, i dont know why you brought up duff in the first place, but this is seriously off-topic. don't discuss it in this thread! :-) thanks...

Dude, errr.......put the pipe down.......Repeat after me "crack is wack"

lookin' back just a few posts i don't think D started this topic here...

but anyway

kick ass  post D  :peace:

and um...

as expected the owner is blaming Axl...
and from what we can tell, he is/has gotten away with his scam
*thumbs down*

I keep saying over and over, they haven't commented on it so we have no clue about what they're doing. This is pretty normal in the GN'R world. We read something, then we have people analyzing it, speculating about what it means and pointing fingers.


Yes, it would've been nice if they didn't sell tickets saying "GN'R" on them because it fooled some fans into thinking GN'R could actually play even though they were told they wouldn't.

How about the radio station? Did they mention that GN'R wouldn't play after they were told the show wouldn't happen? You don't blame them for first hyping the show and then not making sure everybody knew it wasn't gonna happen?




I still think Budapest was different. It was made to look like a real big show. It wasn't some country bar in some small town. It was an airfield that could have a capacity of tens of thousands of people.



/jarmo