Here Today... Gone To Hell!

.....if you ever release 'Chinese Democracy', use the full title of this song (There Was A Time) not the acronym, as 'twat' means something completely different in the UK!!!

oh dear, you forget to suggest him to use the title 'Sobstitute' instead of 'Prostitute' ..... what a scandal, poor UK grannies!!!  :rofl:

well said  iloozion!!!
The BBC will think he wanted to call the song 'vagina'  :o

well fag will do good in the uk being it's a cigrarette ;D

Fucking twat.  ;D

I think that was the whole point............I"m pretty sure he knows what "twat" means, as it means the same thing in the US!

If Axl wants to be taken seriously then TWAT should go.  It's a childish title, trying to raise eyebrows like a rebellios teenager.

or maybe it's just goes along with the subject matter of the song and it's meant to be like that.

Some people find the word democracy insulting too, try to use that as little as possible.

Thanks Axl.

Gotta love those double entrendres....of course he's meant to have it this way!

Well, even if it was changed it to "See You Next Tuesday", I don't think there'd be much of a difference. :o

TWAT is funny cuz evrytym sum1 cals me a twat, i say 2 them, do u no wot it means. they say yes, U. I say nope, it means There Was A Time. it shuts em up

Makes sense why they're calling you that name in the first place then...

TWAT could very well be the deepest song on the album since its rumored to be about Axls childhood abuse.

otherwise you can buy something other....... maybe in the new age shelf  :hihi:

It sounds hell thorny to put such a serious matter into words.

I find even just reading a story of child abuse is too tough.
I haven't finished the last two volumes of it yet and I don't think I will. :-\.

yeah axl , by all means .. if you have the album done and handed over and the company is pressing the cd's and printing the artwork PLEASE make them stop right now and change the title of one fucking song.  ::)

Hilarious , somebody complains about a song title called TWAT by a man who wrote lyrics like "pussy full of maggots"  : ok:

...for the record dizzy wrote silkworms :P

.....at least i thought so

I hope none of Dizzy's other songs make CD then because man do his lyrics suck!! The music of Silkworms is good. Actually is very in-depth with a pleasent synthisizor melody. The lyrics just need alot more work to compliment the music.

They may have reworked the lyrics by now. And you can't say "I hope none of Dizzy's other songs make CD" when you're not even sure if he wrote these in the first place.

I agree, There Was a Time sounds  emotional and intriguing

TWAT sounds juvenile and I've always hated that word.

Oh for fuck's sake! Can't you people think of anything else to do besides complaining that the title of ONE SONG is not the nicest of words!? Jesus Fucking Christ! You'd think that y'all were a bunch of old grannies! What happened to the punk rock rebellious attitude that young people used to have when THEY JUST DIDN'T GIVE A SHIT about whether or not some people might not like something!!?? HELLO!!!??
Who cares if TWAT is the name of a song!!?? What about WASP? They had an album called Animal (Fuck Like A Beast). And none of their fans complained about it!?? And even Nirvana had a song called Moist Vagina! Jeeezus! Do you think that Nirvana fans complain about that title!!?? NO!! Why should you people even care about the title of a song??? What the hell is the matter with you!?!? You all probably swear all the fucking time so don't be so fucking hypocritical about SOMEONE ELSE'S decision to name a song after a swear word. If he called the song CUNT, you'd probably all go through the roof saying "Oh no! He called a song Cunt!" Well, for your information, there is a BAND called Selfish Cunt, and they are a shit indie band, but THEIR fans don't complain about the name!!!!
For God's sake! If you KNOW that TWAT stands for There Was A Time, then DON'T FUCKING COMPLAIN!!

Phew. I'll shut up now. I don't really want to get banned, I love this site, but it really fucks me off when people say such stupid things...
Sorry Jarmo.

I think it's a funny play with letters and words.....

There Was A Time, sounds like a nice little song about something that happened in the past. Then you take the letters and put them together to realize it might not have been a pleasant thing that happened. ;)




/jarmo

sounds interesting.

p.s silkworms sucks

wot??? cuz im pakistani origin and they dont lyk me?

makes no sens 2 me

Whoa, Whoa, Sakib maybe I'm wrong but I think he's just pulling your legs.
Who cares about what origin you are, unless you want to put a stress on it.
For instance, everybody knows I'm originally from another planet but doesn't give a flying fuck. :smoking:

Is it true that dizzy wrote the lyrics of silkworms? I quite like it. :P

As for the topic, I 2nd Jarmo's poetic interpretation.

Yeah, it's even aknowleged by Jarmo

Here is to the retarded pussy who started this thread..    You are the dumbest fucken idoit ever.   Do you think Axl does not know that Twat is a pussy cunt vagina beaver snatch.  Big fucken deal!!   Have u ever listened to all the GnR songs.   Axl uses swear words all the time u fucker.  Man what is wrong with u.  For the love of god just go away.

Whoa, mate. this is no harm. Just obliging.
I wouldn't get that excited about an amicable topic like this one.

I agree with you blasphemer, but with less insults. How could someone who has heard the songs of GNR be offended by the word TWAT?

Elrothiel said it all...are you kidding?  This is Guns & Fuckin' Roses.   :peace:

And that you arrived to earth on a magic carpet; who cares ?: ok:


And T.W.A.T. should be changed. Hopefully it was just a working title. Certainty Until No Time should be the real title of this song, I think.

Im not gonna be biased towards any song due to the title, but I just have a feeling that Chinese Democracy is gonna be a masterpiece,introspective,amazingly done beautiful album.

I expect something totally different than anything we have heard from Axl but I want this album to be taken as seriously as possible.

that title is just sort of juvenile to me.

U dont have to say fuck or motherfucker 50 times to be cool or tough, I just kinda see Axl being past all that.

Limp Bizkit tried saying fuck in every song to be cool, as we all know, that fucking failed

Its not js the Uk dude. We use it here in the states too  :peace:

Exactly Usurper, That shit worked 20 years ago but I expect a totally new side of Axl in more of the Estranged/Coma vain

more introspective, not so much party and drugs and getting pussy.

Thats why fans of AFD are gonna be disappointed cause I just think this record will be totally different than anything he has done.

Yeah, how would you like it if Estranged was called, "I'm an Uncle Fucking Pussy Mother Fucking Mother Fucker"?

I think the point of this thread is that the word "twat" doesn't fit the contex of the song "T.W.A.T"

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

shouldn't this guy be banned for saying shit like this? what a stupid fucking cunt!

My point was that the title: "there was a time" suggests a reflective and poignant song, possibly - as some people have suggested - about Axl's childhood/relationships (although none of us know, of course ,until we hear it) whereas the title "T.W.A.T" suggests a song about someone like 'blasphemer'.

Ok, but why can't the song be about a relationship that just went wrong?

Hence the play with the letters....


/jarmo

I think "I'm an Uncle Fucking Pussy Mother Fucking Mother Fucker" would be a great name for Estranged!!  :rofl: Haha! Only messin!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thanks Axl4Prez!!  :smoking: :peace: :beer: :peace: :smoking:

And to all those who think that the title is "juvenile".

You obviously don't have the true rock n' roll spirit of Gn'R, so I think you should take a goooood long look at what the music of TODAY is made of, and then what the music of Gn'R's era was made of, and then tell me which one you prefer? The proper rebellious Sex, Drugs, Rock N' Roll ATTITUDE, or the "Okay, lets go ask some record producer if he'll sign us and promote us in all the magazines so we can be famous!" "attitude".??

Well... which is it?

Or... maybe I should put it in a different way... OK, would you rather see Sunset Strip filled with Gn'R-esque people walking around with awesome style and the party atmosphere all around you? :peace: : ok: :smoking: Or would you rather it looked just like your run-of-the-mill road with ordinary people walking around in Average Joe slacks and crew cuts? :no: :'( >:(

I know which one I'd rather choose!! What about you?

I'd love if that kind of attitude was still relevant but it's not, that kinda of shit (which I love as much as you or anyone else) died in the eighties and untill chavs and rappers stop dominating the charts that kind of attitude will be irrelevant. Nobody cares about how crude a band can be anymore, songs like One in a Million, Mr. Brownstone and Get in the Ring may have turned heads in the eighties and early ninties but that stuff is tame nowadays.

I like things that are juvenile but there's a time for juvenile fun and there's?a time for serious matters and from what I hear the core of this song is serious

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

I suppose you're right *Izzy* but... its sad! Its real fuckin sad what's happened! But... I sense a revolution. There will be a backlash in Gn'R-esque bands... it's already begun... The Glitterati, Hurricane Party, The Black Velvets, Towers Of London... they're all rockin' bands with Gn'R influence... maybe...juuuuust maybe, history will repeat itself and we'll have our dear friend the 80s back with us where it belongs! :peace:
I bloody hope so anyway! I'm sick of all the emo bands calling themselves "punk" and "metal". They're just self-pitying crybabies who only know riffs with the same 3 chords who sing about cutting themselves.
To The Emo Bands: WE'RE SICK OF IT ALREADY!! JUST GO GET A FUCKING BANDAGE AND QUIT WHINING!

PS: I had to get that out. Gee... I guess I must be a pretty angry person! :rofl: Too many angry thoughts are overflowing! Raaa!!