Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Brain Answers Fans Questions - 4
23 June 2005, 7:36 AM

1) What equipment do you use/will you use for a future GN'R tour?

BR) Dw drumz, mpc 4000

2) Do you feel part of Guns n'roses as a band, or do you just consider it some income?

BR) It's a band as long as I'm getting paid

3) Producer 'Youth' has told us to look out for the song 'Prostitute' when Chinese Democracy is released. Would you say it is one of the stronger tracks on the album?

BR) Yes it is.

4) Do you plan on updating your official website?

BR) Yes. gottogetpaid.com coming soon! :-)

5) Do you play the bongoes, and do they feature on Chinese Democracy (to your knowledge)

BR) Yes, I play the bongos. No, they will not feature on CD.

Written by bigboss


Source: Sp1at.com (http://www.sp1at.com/item.php?id=535)


ps: I still don't know if I can post it here, but I can edit this message if the splat crew wish..

Gotta like Brain's honesty..

Great. He says it's a band as long as he's getting paid? Is there something wrong with this picture? I would say so. These hired guns ar the biggest bunch of losers I've ever seen in my life. Have you noticed that they always make shitty remarks like that? Its not a band because they're working on a mythical album, or working with the greatest singer in rock. Its a band because they're getting paid. UNBELIEVABLE!!

watch everyone rush to see if "gottogetpaid.com" is registered to anyone.  :rofl:

Does anyone else get the feeling that Brain gives all of these "as long as I'm getting paid" answers because he's aware that "fans" see him and the crew as mercenary musicians?

Or, alternatively, is it an attempt to distance himself from GNR?

I'll opt for the first one, just because my cynicism muscles are tired.

Of course. He's just fuckin' up with kids like jameslofton, who bitched about it. I bet Brain is laughing now. :P

That's some funny answers.  ;D




/jarmo

Good, it's not just me then.
I bet Axl's checks bounce like basketballs.

I don't even know if he's joking anymore :'(

To everyone getting pissy at Brains responses, and since i'm sure he himself has read peoples posts about him being "all for the money", could it possibly be that he is being, and here is a new word for you guys....SARCASTIC! :o hhmmmmm?

Izzy, they're not joking. Thats the problem. Am I the only one that sees their disinterest in this neverending project? Its like they dont even care so they give the fans these lame answers. All they care about is getting paid. Axl should cancel their checks.

How do you know they're not joking?  Brain was in Primus for Gods sake!  I think he of all people know the phrase "tounge and cheek".

Did  you ever think they are tired of the same questions over and over again. EVERYONE knows they are not allowed to talk about CD so people should stop asking. I bet its getting annoying.

Thanks  voodooo. :D

I don't see his joke very funny. It's dark.
He must be very pissed off with the brand of "hired guns" for sure.
I don't blame him. I'm pissed too.

i see you point and i agree with you to some extent.

i think he's serious, but i think they do care, and are just frustrated with axl. long delays with no activity and everyone out doing their own thing.....it probably makes it difficult to feel like they are a band.

if it was up to any of these hired guns, the album would have been out years ago.

It's obvious that some of you need to get out more often. Step away from all GNR news and relax. Not everything is a serious as you think. Chill.  ::)

That should be the name of the next tour. If it's not on a t-shirt by the end of the day, I'll be disappointed.

sounds like an asshole to me

  Guys and gals,

    The only problem I have with all of these interviews is the sad fact we only have the words written, and sometimes the audio...can simply videotaping the interview be THAT difficult?  You lose alot in translation when you can't see the speaker gesture, roll their eyes, etc.  That's why I always assume the possibility of sarcasm as Thorazine Shuffle mentioned earlier.

  Oh yeah, one more thing...no bongoes!!!???  Dammit!   :hihi:

I always thought it was tounge in cheek.

Sarcasm?? GNR fans are starved for new information. And since Axl is in hibernation, we depend on what these other guys say to get our information. If they have to resort to sarcasm, they need to find a different job.

another spectacular informative new gnr member interview.. Now that I know there are no bongos in cd I am set that was the news I was waiting for.. :hihi:

I think we outta take into consideration that the band members just dont know much about "current" gnr news.

Merck has said that only he , axl and that other guy know the real deal about chinese democracy. Brain doesnt answer stuff in a serious manner most of the time anyways. Go read any of his interviews .. even non gnr interviews are peppered with sarcasm and humor.

Unfortunately they can't say anything, I am sure they want to, who wouldn't want to talk about being in GNR with Axl..It's just he's got these guys on lock down.  I am sure it gets to them so this is the result of it I guess..  Plus the questions aren't all that great..

Yea, since I now know that there are no bongos on the album, i'm deleteing my account here and now know that CD will officially suck ass.? :rant:?

Really.



I'm serious.



Goodbye.


 :(

Yeah, we're starving for real news. But, if Brain can't tell anything right now, why the hell should he being serious with those kind of questions?

I'm pretty sure Splat did those interviews by email.

Bye bye Thorazine:wave:
I don't care about bongos that much, as far as Brain is on the drums.

Or you need to find a different hobby?:wave:

Look, many of "us" say "these hired guns" "for money" or "they have no ideas" like some fucking conventional epithets every time they say something.

See ya.





Oh shit, i was supposed to go. :-\

agh he is part of a never ending process, ofcourse he is in it for the money what other possible reason would have any of them there.

I was just poking fun they don't know there just some dudes that might now as much as us about anything except the sound of the music.. If brain is in it for money then cool at least that is keeping him here or whatever.. if I joined a band that never played something better keep my interest

If you never have to play rehearse or talk to the other guys in the band then it's damn easy to stay in it.. New ngr can last 50 years by this way :hihi:

For the love of The music, the band and Mike.  for what other possible reason would any of us be here? ???

Thorazine I know you can't go. :hihi:

chill out dude, we gotta stop goin' into shit like this 'cause we'll get knowhere , n' back off with the loser shit, there my heros your talkin' 'bout >:(

who's your heros??

Robin Finck
Chris Pittman
Tommy Stinson
Richard Fortus
Dizzy fuckin' Reed
Brain
W. Axl Rose

guns n' fucken roses dude :drool: :beer:

Mine are gnr too but it's
axl rose
slash
izzy
duff
steve

Brain was joking/beeing sarcastic. He is a very good drummer.
Hope to hear him play on the album, 'cause I love the drums. To anyone, his drums on "the blues" are exeptional.

Don't go down that road please. The thread is not about that and you know it.

I could care less if he's in it for the cash or not. ?

Most honest musicians will tell you they got in the business for 2 reasons:

1. Chicks
2. To avoid getting a real job.

If Brain wants to make some cash along the way, good for him.

the way i look at what he said is like this...

in the absence of any other indicators that there is a band "Guns N' Roses" of which he is part...
i.e.: ?no released album / no tour / no recording he is part of / no rehearsals he is part of
what evidence can he offer that there is a band that he is part of?...

The fact that he is still being paid for being in Guns N' Roses - the checks are still coming.

if you worked for a company
and you were on an agreed paid break...
so long as the checks are still coming to you
would mean the company still exists... and that you were still part of that company

if the checks stopped coming...
then either a) the company is defunct ? ? or ? ? ? ?b) you are no longer part of that company

so in my eyes... there really isn't anything wrong with what he said...

not that he had to say it... i think he said it to be facetious

as in: ?"for those of you who think there is no Guns N' Roses ... ? someone's paying me! ?:P"

he's drumming kick arse, better then exceptional : ok:

yeah, I noticed that point a couple of time ago while I was listening to the blues. the drums are awesome. On IRS it's very "groovy"? I think he has more potencial than Matt . There is something of John Bonham in that guy.

Finally, Brain is a human beeing, he knows what people say about him on the internet, and I think he is hurt. That's the way I see it.

i just think he doesnt give a fuck, they ask...he answers!! : ok:

I'm hurt too, nes. And I don't give a fuck.

Not that I care what they say officially or what they think of their job  but

Can you name some recent n decent musicians who told you that they were only for the cash n chicks?

I don't think Brain "doesn't give a fuck". I think he cares.

It's definitely a lame answer no doubt, if that is how he really feels, sounds very David Lee Roth like right when he broke up with Van Halen and he was all over MTV with all these chicks and being so flashy ;D ?Seriously, I hope he was joking...

i believe he cares, doin' interviews comes with the territory, he doesnt have to give a fuck, might be a different story when he's talkin' to a real fan, not just some interviewer : ok:

might see a whole new person ???

Buckethead is obviously in the music buisness for the chicks!! get it?! the CHICKS!

hahahahahahahaha

ahahahahahaha

bwahahahahahahahaha

muhahahahahahahahaha

... erm , ok , maybe it wasnt very funny.  :-[

Jerry Cantrell and Billy Duffy, Rockline August '04.

Paraphrasing "We didn't get into this business to change the world, we got in it to meet girls and avoid getting jobs"..

good interview, keepin it light and fun as usual. gotta love the Brain! :peace:

What about the money? Are they RecenT musicians? 

Anyway somehow I see  the stress of the quote on the first clause.

That's what I thought. And yes, I bet it's a joke. I'm hurt because I think all the members are at heart deeply hurt by constant heartless remarks, still pretending stone deaf to them. Brain is the most outspoken of all that he expressed the pain by the self-piss-taking and laughed at it that way.

Wait, maybe that's badass? :idea:

What about it??


Two of the most highly respected and influential guitarists of the modern rock era, the musical forces behind both their seminal bands.

Let's get some perspective:
"That's why these guys worked real hard at being in a band that they can get abused for "because they're the guys in the way of stopping the old band from getting together."

Again:
"That's why these guys worked real hard at being in a band that they can get abused for "because they're the guys in the way of stopping the old band from getting together."

If you don't see any humour in Brain's answers you're too fucking thick.

I can't recall a more quiet time since the band split in 93 than it is right now.

heh, guess that makes him ideal for GN'R then  ;) ;D :hihi:

The guy is being a smartass...give me a break. "got's to get paid" is a slang expression used by black guys. I say it all the time too. It's a joke. It's funny-not one word from you guys about? the song mentioned. Now, having Brain, Youth, and Buckmaster comment on Prostitute, it is safe to assume that it is one of "the big guns". I will go out on a limb and predict that it will be a single some day. Stuff like that get's me excited-not smartass comments from bored band members.? :peace:

"Buckethead is obviously in the music buisness for the chicks!! get it?! the CHICKS!"

LOL! That was funny Saul.... :hihi:

"It's a band, as long as I'm getting paid."


Is that the reward for being a true fan even in silent times and patiently cutting the new guys some slack, giving them a chance?


WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!


Sarcasm?

Well, if he doesn't want to give interviews, then maybe he should just SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

He is hurting the band with these comments.

He is playing with the fans.


The 200.000 people at RIR3, millions on television (RIR, VMA) and a sold out Madison Square Garden would not have given a FUCK about BRAIN, if he wasn't in GN'R.


Sorry if I don't get the sarcasm behind comments like these. But IMO this is just piss-poor behaviour, not sarcasm.

Maybe GN'R should not look for another guitarist, but rather employ a DRUM COMPUTER!!!

I think we are reading WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too much into these questions and responses from brain, It's obvious to me, by the questions and his answers, that he is a bit of a smart ass. his answers seem very "tongue in cheek".  He comes across to me as a guy who only works on projects he believes in.

For example, did he play for Primus for the money? or how about Colonel Claypool's Bucket of Bernie Brains? I don't fuckin think so.

In GnR's case, money is a wonderful side-effect. That is, if they decide to release an album ever.

The old saying goes..... "Ask a Stupid Question ... Get a Stupid Answer"

I'm with Neemo on this, way too much over analysis...

If he's being tongue in cheek, so what?

If he's being sarcastic with a hint of frustration, who cares?

If he's being honest, good for him.

I think him even considering GNR a blip on his musical radar is a plus..

I think the smiley face after the response regarding his own website indicates that he's joking.

Ali

nobody is in it for the money, I just think they want to be apart of all that music they made.... Originally you never know the gnr name by itself could bring you lots of instant notiriety,... I sometimes wonder why people would join such a well known group that had such a famous history?? I would feel fucking strange replacing slash or anyone of that stature then going right in as a gnr member.. Probably honored and not worthy at the same time..

Maybe some people (incl. myself) tend to read a bit too much because it's a silent time for GN'R and the fans and any news is precious. Sensitivity is a bitch...ah well...whatever.

Yes, it's a very long silent time for GNR and I do think some fans really want news, not jokes but news and when you can't determine if the band member being questioned is joking or being sarcastic, it's an already sensitve situation and people don't want to hear this kind of nonsense.  The questions really did suck anyway but the frustration of the fans is apparent and no matter how sucky the questions are, fans aren't looking for sarcasim.  As fans we know that Axl won't let them answer so all around it's a shitty situation.

I don't know. with all the bullshit rumors over the past 10 years or so we should all be the most skeptical fans in the world.

Me, I ain't believing nothing until the damn CD is in my hands or I'm seeing the band live with my own 2 eyes.

I think everyone in the band has signed a gag order as part of their contract or something, they all seem to beat around the bush when asked about GnR and CD, they say something but it never really means anything, ya know?

making msuic is a great thing being passionate is also a grea tthing but why would nayone want to be apart of soemthing so secrative? I mean they are just musicians and they want to enjoy the benefits of their music and should be able to speak freely about it.. Who asks people to do such things and why?? They should be able to speak about anything but the release date if that is the big deal..

Mike, Tommy Stinson is more than worthy enough to be in Gnr. Duff should be honored to have someone as good as Tommy playing his simplistic clanging bass lines. And Brain, oh lord, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy better than Mr. Heavy Hands Sorum. I watched the Paris 1992 show some last night and was absolutely appalled at how bad the rhythm section was at that time. Duff is bloated and fat, Sorum looks like an overweight poodle-my wife was like "they don't sound so good!" during SCOM. Slash was butchering his own solos. It was bad. The only guy who had any fire and passion was Axl. Now, if I could somehow take that Axl and transport him to 2005, all would be right in the world. :yes: :yes:

There is only one person that can answer that question and he ain't around :-\

how did we know only axl was good :hihi: it's not about the level of playing it's about the people that made the band what it was.. People will never understand what it is to not care if better players come along..  maybe the beatles should just get  abunch of guys, I mean there are plenty of people out there that are better players... You can say whatever you like about the old guys, but they made afd and they made the songs people remember or were apart of it.. So take everyone that is so much better and find them in history.. : o

if robin finck replaced jimmy page for zepplin would that be cool..

Most older gnr fans are gnr fans of the old but have an interest in what axl is doing.. The new lienup could swivle ten more times as long as axl's in then I'm aboard..

Mike, Tommy is a legend on his own with the Replacements.? Your kind of missing my point. The old band overall was great-no doubt. But, they only had one classic album and had disintegrated in to shambles by 1992 (Duff/Slash were a drunken-druggy mess-Axl was still clear eyed and focused, although still an egomaniac). You look at any best of list for albums and you will always see multiple Replacements albums-Tim, Let It Be, and Pleased to Meet Me. Brain is simply a better player and musician than Sorum. I have seen both up close and personal in intimate venues-NOT THE ENORMO DOME. I am not comparing the guitar players because I'll take Slash and Izzy anyday over the two they got now. Another thing, I don't care how the new band plays the old songs and hope they never do again (wishful thinking). Two completely different bands in my opinion. I like both but if I had to choose who I would want to record an album with today-Tommy/Brain or Duff/Sorum-Adler, hands down I'd take Tommy/Brain.? :-\

that's all good dude........ Funnything is axl called matt one of the best drummers on the planet in an old sit down kurt loder interview when his heal was injured.. I have seen matt play live several times and it's all good to me.. Your favs will always be the ones you grew up with..... I have only watched 3 new gnr performances, vmas, rio 3 and live I saw them at msg..  Drugs, change of direction, or ego all can be destructive :no: I've said it time and time again I always suppoert axl because I have for the past 17-18 years I will do more so when I get to learn the other members of the band.. FOr me it's not easy to have no album see the band I love break up then have a few handfulls of shows and say this is gnr..

I wish he would change the name but that's a whole other thread. :hihi:

It's Fine that You don't have an answer to my question.

No shit! You've got me there. How could I forget Buckethead!!! He's the one only after the chicks and the toys!  :rofl:



Naah. ::) Don't be fooled. Honest or not, genuine one tends to avoid mentioning something too obvious and proper. The work shows why they had to take up one of the most chancy n uneasy trades as a means of getting paid.

Give me a break... fu"?$"? posser....

                                @;--,---.-----

I thought you might be familiar with both, sorry.

Yes, both are "recent", their former band's are considered quite releventi/nfluential and get tons of airplay across the US.

Anything else?

This comment is funny since Axl butchered more shows in the old days than anyone else in the band and if you had ever seen bootlegs from the UYI era you should realize that he's only acting, he's not into the show. (Not to mention the 2002 tour when he wanted to play his 'rock star role' again but didn't remember how to do that.

And Duff is a much better and more precious player than Tommy. Brain is better than Steven or Matt, but not for Guns N' Roses, since it's not his style. Slash... Anyone who doubts his talent doesn't know anything about music.

That's just ridiculous.

He's only acting? I think he did a pretty good job then. Fooling the whole world into thinking he was the best frontman there was at the time.


Now, it seems like Izzy wasn't always into it, after all he left during the tour. Compare how Izzy and Axl are on those bootlegs.



/jarmo

this has got to be the dumbest statement ever made. you can say alot about axl, but he, unlike most artists both before and after him, put his all, 110% into giving the crowd what they wanted every fucking night, even with a strained ancle he was out there putting his all into the shows he played, pacing over the stage, screaming, singing and entertaining and truly deserving his spot as the most energic and powerful frontman in the world. that's what's up.

Axl was acting. Have you seen the Tokyo DVD? Or Paris? etc. He plays like an actor, only few of his moves are genuine. He did a great show, he had to work very hard to plan (mostly) all his moves and he put a lot energy to the show, I don't doubt that. He didn't have the same attitude he had in the AFD days. But if you can't see he was acting than you're blind. Nothing's really wrong with that, Freddie Mercury, who was probably the biggest frontman of all time planned his stage presence and stage moves, too. But it wasn't street rock anymore, it was The Great Guns N' Roses Theatre.

Mikka, not that your comments are worthy of a response......but, does going to 7 UYI shows help me be a "qualified" appraiser of Gnr's place in rock history? You watch your bootlegs, I'll go with what I saw up close and personal. Gnr and this board are sport to me, pure fun..a way of killing time at work. I listen to ALOT of other stuff besides Guns. Believe me, I know a good guitar player when I see one and hear one. Slash was great, but I have seen a lot better as well. The old band is simply dead to me. Once Izzy jumped ship, it was over. The chemistry was gone. It was obvious at the time and more so now. Now, here's the deal, I love Duff-the King of Beers. Great guy who seems to really have his shit together now. But, he simply does not have the skills or songwriting ability of Tommy. I am being purely objective. Also, Slash WAS a mess on that tour-simple as that. I am not saying he hasn't created some of the best riffs ever, I am just saying that objectively, he was very spotty on the UYI tour. After actually seeing a large number of shows and watching bootlegs, Axl was much more focused night in and night out. He may have been a little too over the top, but, night in and night out, he gave you a 110%. ?:peace:

Just because he did certain moves in certain songs doesn't make it acting. You make it sound like he faked everything because he moved a certain way during certain songs. I bet he did that during the AFD tour as well.

Listen to some of the performances instead of looking at the moves he made. You can tell that certain shows he sang like he meant it. Maybe that's acting to you....  ::)


/jarmo

I could care less about who was on or off on which nights.. I agree about izzy though.. See this is how it is for me.. The 80's had loads of rockers that were big time drug users so when gnr formed you knew it was like a time bomb of users but that was what made it great to.. 5 guys being themselves not following the labels.. If I watched them at the ritz I wanted to see people on the edge people that could do anything at any minute.. They were the most dangerous band out there... So I never expected the most perfect playing because you knew they were loaded or drunk, but it was live so it was all good.. I have the albums I know how the music sounds.. So for me 5 rebels using drugs pounding booze and the attitude was a big draw for me, the i don't give a fuck attitude pound some beers kill a bottle of jack and rock out was all good to me.. ?This was them, what you saw was what you got... So if slash was fucking wasted or duff high it wasn't a suprise or if they fucked up a solo.. That's just me thought.. I can say all the music I love most likely had some major drug use so I never really cared as long as they showed up to the gigs..

Last time I checked, the Replacements were considered probably the most fucked up, drunken train wreck waitin' to happen band in rock history. Tommy knows a thing or two or three or four about having a "good time". Now, his pancreas didn't explode but maybe Tommy can just hold his liquor a little better. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I have to be honest, I heard of the group's name but didn't know them... So I know nothing about them or their abusive habbits..

This is my question, you see.
Precisely only the "cash" bit had relevancy to  the topic.

Also By the recent musicians I meant todays rising stars or those who are in their prime or made their debut lately, as late as in the last several years not a couple of decades ago.

your odd taste... :nervous:

That sounds same to what I've heard of from the ppl who witnessed a band out of the unknown- GN'R of 1985,6ish. Even when the worst day, the vocalist alone put up a brave show cheering up the other guys who were put all out of sorts with boos n hisses.  :yes:

Maybe better after the success of the upcoming album. :D

Understood, the paraphrase my earlier post was meant to show musicians don't get into the business solely for the art, there's usually other motives as well. ?IE girls, not to work a 9-5 job and possibly in Brain's case, monetary reward. ?

Kid Rock had a Christmas special on VH1 a year or so ago, when asked about why he got started in the music business responded (paraphrasing again) with "2 reasons, girls and money, that simple".
I'm sure there's plenty of others new and not that share at least part of the same rational, some who enjoys the perks of their art much more than the art itself.

You are obviously bothered with the cleaner image while saying their being themselves is great.

Not me in either way. An Image is just the way you are seen/you see something.

Mikka, I usually agree with some of the stuff you say, but saying Axl was acting is the most moronic thing I've ever heard in my life. Even dumber then Pandora's statement about me being a "CONSTANT whiner". If you think its all an act, why are you a fan? Axl definitely has issues, but he is the most genuine rock star the world has ever seen. On any given night, he let that night's performance consume every ounce of his being. Tommy talks about CD being "earth shattering". I'll tell you what was earth shattering: Seeing GNR on a hot summer night in July 1991. In Axl's contract, he said he was only obligated to play 80-90 minutes. Instead, he blew the crowd's mind for almost 3 hours, giving us a performance we will never forget. That is NOT acting.

If any of you knew Brain (yes I know him through a friend), you'd know he's just having fun with the 'gettin paid 'thing.  He hasn't gotten a paycheck with them for over a year.

so it seems considering it all in all. Glass Axe

I don't disagree about what you said there but about Brain.　

Yep everyone needs money and girls/boys.
Why I asked that question is that I've heard that once upon a time it was considered cool for a yet to be known artist to say, "girls and/or money" as his primal reason in taking the career.
In my account, you got to read between lines. Not every musician would get an abundant supply of cash n chicks. Actually it's rare. You'd be thankful if you got paid enough to survive by doing what you really like. That's why it used to be ballsy to mention cash n chicks expressly of all the motives.

Nevertheless, those guys you brought up must have meant what they said. :yes:

Brain is quite the opposite.
Yep, Everyone's got to get paid, let alone a talented professional drummer.
Yep, Brain is one honest guy. Yep he must be sure CD will sell like hell and heap money on him.
But he has already said "got to get paid" 3 times in return for their questions.
If you still think he's not a joker but just been honest, well beat your brain a bit harder for gods sake.

Brian's attitude toward his music quite differs from kid rock n co. He'd rather live for music than do it for a living.

"I love music so much that I don't want it to be the main factar for my living."- Brain
 

Yes he has, which leads me to believe there might be a hint of truth in his sarcasm.


I'm a realist, merely acknowledging his motives with GNR might not be entirely altruistic.? Anyone who doesn't at least consider that may also need to "beat your brain a bit harder for gods sake".

As I've stated before, I could care less one way or the other, the reasoning behind his motives for? involvement in GNR are absolutely none of my business.

The idea that Axl Rose did anything other throw himself into his songs as hard as he possibly could is just absurd.

There is no way that he could fool people by "acting" for that long a period of time.  His insincerity would have come out sooner or later.

Even two men that hate Axl Rose, Slash and Matt Sorum, said in the BTM episode that "The same things that make Axl so difficult are what drive him to be such a great performer and songwriter", and "He's like the greatest frontman ever".

He's not that good an actor.  He is just that magnetic and mesmerizing.  And that's why he's one of the greatest frontmen in rock history.

Ali

If the new gunners are using Axl as a steping stone for money when they are out touring and making music besides finishing Chinese Democracy, why can't  Axl  just fire the little queers? >:( :rant:

Robins role isnt to replace Slash.

As Madagas said earlier, who cares how the new band plays the old songs. Whether you like the way they play them or not...they are here for 1 reason. Chinese Democracy. That will be the make or break. Its a new band with an old name.

Nor Mine. 
I never said anyone's motives with any business were entirely altruistic. Only Brain and God knows.
Didn't Axl say they were doing it for themselves or something along those lines?

Maybe Axl has a sense of humour? :o
I guess Axl knows there's none in GNR who deserve your name-calling.
He knows them far more than you do.
Moreover, He knows how much the biased people love to take everything amiss since he's been there.

Well what's taking so long? I didn't neccesarily bash Brain and them , It just seems Axl is becoming like Howard Hughes. Anyway if Chinese Democracy does come out soon in this day in age for music , its just going to be another Mtv-whore album, unless Axl has what it takes to break the cycle...

CD an MTV whore album?? Now thats funny!! I think its obvious that this album will not be promoted in the traditional way an album is promoted. Yeah, of course MTV will talk about it. But Axl will not be an MTV "whore".

maybe not but I am hoping for  a kurt loder one on one interview.... I think the gnr name is an mtv whore, it was from wttj to estranged.. That's anyone with mainstream popularity... I doubt but I could be wrong that you will see the 7 member band doing these promo sessions like hosting headbanger's ball or taking over the weekly rock show like most bands do.. I don't know why but I really would love to see the band do something like that, it would be cool to see the guys with axl just hanging out having a good time.. Nice way to get to know the band members and see them interact.. One picture outside of a 2001-02 gig would be cool too.. :beer:

Mike, I agree that they should promote the album like that. But its highly doubtful they will. Interesting that you point out wanting band pics besides those from the 2002 tour, This is one of the many reasons this band is not taken seriously by the general public. There are no official pics of the band. That is one of the strangest things about this whole thing. Couldn't the whole band get together for a couple hours and take some photos. Its almost like they dont want to be taken seriously. Just about every band in the world has a poster. This band doesn't.

well gnr was very very heavy into afd publicity shots.. then there was some illusions but not much.. Forget about when it was dizzy gilby matt.. I bought TSI poster and it was just random shots of the band, then the sleeve wasn't the band together just the sneakers
Axl said he hated pics and gave a whole speech about it in the robert john gnr photobook ,.. I never understood the fact of no photos just chilling out off stage with his new group.. This group doesn't really have any characteristics of a band in the normal way we know it.. You would think the first priority would be to get an album out.. They have the resources to release albums n tour, it's not like they are some poor group together for 5 years but can't catch a record deal.. I'll never understand what is happening or what happened until someone talks about it..

Mike, I totally agree. Its the strangest set of circumstances in the history of music. No pics, no album, bandmembers go a year or more without seeing each other, Axl's allergy to talking to his fans, and the many contradictions given by various bandmembers about this album. This story is just begging for a journalist to expose it. It almost happened with the NYT article. CD came within a "hair's breadth" of being exposed as a fraud. But there wasn't very much inside information in that article, so it wound up dying a quick death. If you ever want to bum yourself out, go read that article.LOL!! One of these days, someone close to Axl is gonna "spill the beans", and it will blow the lid off this thing. I've always thought that CD would be one of the biggest news stories of this decade, but not for the reasons most people think. I just wish Axl would release something before it comes to that.

Do you think the reason this whole thing is very strange because Axl is running the show?  I mean no disrepect to the man, I love him but it seems to me with him running everything could be the reason for all these oddities.  When he was in old GNR, he had to answer to the rest of his band as well as his manager Doug Goldstein and the record co, correct?   Now, he doesn't have that pressure so being he is a perfectionist, doesn't like photos taken, who he is sueing, etc.. could be one or all of the many reasons we have seen CD yet or this band since 2002.

DTJ, you make a good point. I think that if it wasn't for Izzy, we would still be waiting for Illusions to be released. But I dont agree about your reasons for no CD. I think there's something far more sinister going on than just Axl 'taking his sweet time'.

Sinister...could be?   I wonder what though.  What sinister thing could possibly be holding up the release of CD?  Definitely adds to the intrigue..   Although, what screams to me that it's Axl being a perfectionist about it, is the NYT article and statements before that from some producers and people that have worked with him over the years, ex.. Moby, Zakk Wylde, etc.  All say the music is great and that Axl still wasn't satisfied and in the NYT article, I forget the producers names that worked with him, they also stated the music was great but that Axl still didn't want to release it so they left to do other things.   Both of us make really good points and I think that whenever it does come out, hopefullly we will get some answers :peace:

Put it this way if it wasn't for pressure you might have seen gnr as a one album band, damn illusions might have never came out if it was up to axl.. Imagine that stuff coming out in 93 or 94, would have beena total commercial failure..

It took long because my mouse has been a total wreck for a week and it's getting worse. now it takes me 10mins till I can point it at any target. I can't post, as I want. :'( No, who give a shit about my mouse. You are talking about cd.  All we got are guesses and fantasy other than the quotes from Mysteron Dizzy n Tommy. And it should be discussed in the other thread.

I didn't necessarily think you bushed them either.  I knew you were talking about ifs. I just picked your post because your question was handy to introduce my shout with. I stated the obvious for anyone who regards oneself as being entitled to come between Axl and the other members and not for you if you know you don't.
No hard feelings.  :peace:

DTJ, your mention of the NYT article and some producers using the term'the music is great' is one of the most troubling aspects of this thing, yet people ignore it completely. We've been hearing 'the music is great' for going on 8 years. No mention of great lyrics or great vocals. They always use the term 'great music'. WHY? Most likely because all these people have only heard instrumentals. Remember that Rolling Stone reporter who heard some songs about 5 years ago? People seem to develop amnesia to the fact that the guy only heard instrumentals. And when you consider all the contradictions by the band members: the albums done, only artwork remains,vocals finished, album 95% done, Axl doing vocals, the musics all done, Robin and Richard alternating lead. This just reeks of deception. If Axl doesnt give a damn about CD, he needs to just tell us. Because if he doesn't, eventually someone will.