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Slash says Axl is "brilliant"
11 July 2005, 10:19 PM

Former Guns n Roses guitarist Slash told UK Channel 4's "Planet Sound" that he believed Chinese Democracy, the long delayed Guns n Roses album, should be "brilliant".

Speaking fairly candidly on the subject Slash said "I know nothing (about Chinese Democracy)" before adding "No record is worth waiting 10 years for but I'll say this: anything Axl does is brilliant in one way or another and I'm sure his new record will be no different".

Chinese Democracy is currently slated for release in the 4th Quarter 2005.

Written by gigger

Source: http://www.sp1at.com/item.php?id=561

before everyone throws a shit-fit, YES this was posted as NEWS at sp1at  :peace: ;D

GN'R without Slash is like the Rolling Stones without keith Richards. Slash must be back on lead.
Axl + Slash = magic.

FYI, someone posted this at VR's official forum.  I couldn't find the Channel 4 Teletext for this interview, but the poster at VR's forum might point it out.

In other words, it didn't just come from Sp1at  : ok:

Ali

That doesnt suprise me, js because Slash has personal gripes against Axl doesnt meant he doesnt think the guys talented. Slash wouldnt have worked with Axl for all those yrs if he didnt.  :peace:

now i think axl should get off his fat ass and call slash and sort things out so then they can like sometimes join each other on stage.

You'll see, when the new GN'R tour starts, at EVERY concert there will be messages for Axl about Slash: "Axl call slash" etc... or people in the audience asking for Slash return... I hope Axl has solid nerves because it may be a non-stop demand.

The more the times pasts, the more people want Slash back.

I thought you were the one who said there were only 2 finished tracks? Must have been that other Slash who was doin his VR promo

That is 100% true...but that doesnt mean Axl and Slash for that matter cant still make greta music with other people.


why becuase of what Slash said?

I doubt it. The people at the next tour will be there because they enjoy CD and want to see those songs being played in a live fashion. SOngs in which SLash or any other old member have nothing to do with.

I'm sure Axl and Slash can make their own magic with others. It is what is beautiful about art.

You can't keep your damn opinions away for one post can you?  Just accept what Slash has said.  He hasn't heard anything recently, but I'm sure he's heard tracks that Axl was once working on.  He has NO reason to lie.  Just grow up.  Please.

The majority of the people will be at the show because of the name alone. They may enjoy the new material, but the new GNR ?will definetly play old GNR hits(with Slash). ?People identify GNR as 2 people- Axl and Slash. ?As long (and if) GNR tours again, Slash will always be brought up, and theirs nothing Axl can do about it. ?

Slash has always been generous in his praise of Axls talents...

It will be with a sense of meloncholy that CD will be released - even though we'll all be jubilant that it has finally been released, surely most of us will be a little sad that Axl has finally made the split with the originals official?

Jimmy, great point. The reason Axl is always linked with 'old' GNR is because he never does anything on his own. Whenever fans see a GNR video, hear a song on the radio, see a GNR poster, etc., its always the old band. 'New' GNR does not have its own identity. The only way Axl can cut the umbilical cord to 'old' GNR is to release the album. Period.

exactly James - the release of CD is the only thing that forges a distinction between old and new, and as exciting as all that is, it's still essentially the final nail in the coffin of the greatest American rock band that ever was

time passed by, i would love the guys to go for beach picnics with their wifes and kids ...

No one forces them to be together 24/24 now, they can be mates again..

I havnt been active lately, what you talkin bout you guitar god you?

Where did I say he is blowin smoke? I just find it odd that 1 day hes talking like he knows the situation and another day he says he knows nothing. Which 1 is it? Its the same pattern with the old members. They keep goin back n forth.

 I know he has nothing really bad to say about Axls talents. They both have respect for each other.

People will be at that show because of CD. They will know who is in the band and what they play. Alhtough Im sure they might play some of the hits like WTTJ,SCOM and PC I doubt they will play all the others like they did in 2002. Axl said on tour that he wanted to give the fans one last chance to hear the old songs.

If you think the members of this band will go out and do 2002 all over agian instead of playing the album they busted their asses for then your nuts.

WHen/If Axl moves on witht he 2nd era of gnr then Slash will slowly leave the picture. Not that people will forget him but people will realize that its over and that its abot new gnr now. When CD drops, it will attract NEW fans who dont know much about the history of gnr or just dont care. WHat they care about is the new band and Fincks solo's and Brains drumming and tommys baselines. and Buckets Shredding?? :'({please????}

Well we all know life is too short. ?And they had more good come out of the relationships they had than bad. ?They had something special together that they have all been searching for since.

They will all be in their 40's now when Slash gets there this summer. ?It's inevitable that they will eventually make up, but i would hope it was sooner rather than later.
Axl could still release CD under his own name. ?It would still be huge, people love him. ?But then get to work on a Classic line up GNR record. ?Get out of that perfectionist zone that seems to hold his work back. ?

But hey i can't question the man, he only does what he wants anyway lol i just hope we do get to hear him soon. ?

PS It was a nice compliment from Slash.  Don't taint it, just accept it as a nice comment lol.

Slash will never leave the picture. ?He may be Axl's equal on the poularity chart (maybe more) and will ALWAYS ?be one of the first things ppl will remember when hearing the name of GNR. ?How many ppl know who Richard,Tommy, or the Brain are? ?Nobody will care about them till they prove themselves worthy of the GNR name. ?

Jimmy, interesting that you use the 'nail in the coffin' line. Sometimes I wonder if this is one of the reasons for no new album after all these years. Basically, a new album completely changes everything to do with GNR. The band will never be looked at in the same light again, regardless of how good or bad CD is. Axl is taking a HUGE risk, and he knows it. 'Old' GNR turned into a strange enigma, 'the Led Zeppelin that never was'. GNR had unlimited potential, and everyone knew it, but it blew up in their faces. With all this time that has elapsed, it created a 'coolness' factor to 'old' GNR. If this 'enigma' is shattered, Axl will not only destroy his current career, but risks a future disinterest in the old band and a major loss of money in back catalogue sales.

True.. ?When GNR is mentioned outside of this world, it's the old. ?Axl has to get these guys out there to be recognized with the GNR name and as a band in the here and now.

BTW - I think it's great that Slash had some nice things to say : ok: ? a little knock about the timeframe but that's to be expected.

I think your deluded if you think people attending future GN'R shows will go only because of the new line up and CD. ?Of course some will, but i think the majoroty will be going for the name and the music that people already know and love. ?

Unless he down sizes venues - which is not a bad idea anyway actually. ?But to carry a GN'R Arena tour, i would imagine that  it would need to include the old songs. ?Unless he takes a very brave route and does all new material - which i personally wouldn't mind. But i think it has to be all or nothing.

I'm a big Axl supporter and i hope that CD is the success that he wants it to be. ?But he will never be able to get rid of who Guns N' Roses are to the majority of people. ?When you see the full list of who has been and gone in the name of GN'R - since the old guys left. ?It's meaningless because there is nothing to show for it. ?In the Rock history books you will have all these names associated with the GNR name and the only ones that will matter will be the guys that wrote Appetite. ?

Unless he/ or they better it and that is an almost impossible task. ?Anyway let's see. Time will tell.

The GNR saga is kind of like that of Pink Floyd's.

Lot's of fighting about the name and who was really responsible for making them big and what not. Both the remaining Floyd members and Roger Waters each had successful post-breakup careers and played to huge venues and released popular albums.

However, neither Gilmore's Floyd nor Waters solo efforts were able to capture the magic they had together. For all the stadiums Floyd played in the early 90's, not one of those shows had that aura of magic that the line-up responsible for their greatest albums had at Live 8.

The GNR situation is no different. Both sides will release popular albums and play to large audiences, but neither will ever fully capture the magic the original GNR had. Just as Pink Floyd minus Roger Waters never captured the magic we witnessed at Live 8. Doesn't mean both VR and GNR can't release great music and be popular, but neither will ever surpass the popularity and success they achieved as a unit. There will always be that lingering feeling of "what if" that will hang over fan's heads, just as it has with other large acts that thought they would be better off on their own.

No matter how much CD sells, how successful it may turn out, how many new fans a release may bring to GNR, the image of Axl/Slash will always be a shadow cast over the new band.

So this time slash says he knows nothing yet last time he said he knows that Axl only had a few tracks with vocals.  ::)

The success of the new album and tour will reside with the quality of the new songs. The old catalog couldn't carry the 2002 tour; why should we all expect that it would in 2005. Slash will continue to be a shadow only if the new material doesn't hold up. This isn't a new revelation; axl's fate resides with this album. If it's great, he's back on top. If it's not, time to buy himself a new couch.

Bingo captain obvious!  : ok:  Tune in next week when slash reveals the complete tracklist and Bucketheads replacement!  :beer:

Slash rocks , no B.S. , just straight up facts from ole Hudson.  :smoking:

i just hope that all turns out well,
it would be awsome to have axl and slash re-unite, do put all differences behind them.
i think it will happen some day...
they just cant be stuborn about it

Only in music do people try so hard to force people to "get back together" ... they'll shove so much money under peoples nose to get them together.

We outta let things be.

I liken it to a couple getting a divorce .. you dont see people running up to them offering them major cash to "get back together"

Axl and Slash , and all the original band was magic , but they had their reasons to split , and now Slash for example has a very successful new band. It would be nice sometime in the future if they all got back together again , sure. Just the same as I'd like to see Bucket back in GNR. But I think those decisions should be made by them , and not forced unto them by greedy managers and promoters and record label execs.

Just my opinion.  :-\

I tend to agree, albeit with a twist.

GNR (no matter what incarnation is under the brand name) was and will always be defined by the AFD era band and material.

Axl Rose's lasting imprint does in fact "reside with this album"...

Well said KV.

And if you read what I wrote thats what I basically said. Of course Slash would never be forgotten. BUt if CD is successful it will attract newer fans who are more concerned about the new lineup and its players rather then SLash. Hence Slash leaves the picture.

All of those people will know that there is no old gnr at that show. No SLash no Duff no old songs. SO what will they be going for? Axl and the new songs and members{if the album is good}.
If Axl or any of the band members announce in an interview during the promos that the tour setlst will consits of CD songs then peopel will be going for the above mentioned reasons.

Theres nothing to show for it until they get out there and do it! Until the album is released and GNr get out there, GNR will be about the old. When the album is dropped then people will either like this new band or not based on that album.
Is it really out of the question  to think that if CD is considered a great album people would say in 20 years that GNr had 2 great eras of music? WHy cant people enjoy both eras and if warranted why cant the new era get acclaim for their work as well.

Is there a rule that says once a band releases an album they can release anymore good ones?

As for the next tour I think that it will be the real CD tour. If not ill be pissed. No doubt theyll throw in Jungle and Scom but otherwise Im sure we are gonna get a full set of CD.


Maybe but it all depends on how good the album is. If its a great album, they will get the respect they deserve and get their own acclaim. No1 is saying will completely leave the picture. Hes a huge part of gnr history. But that doesnt means hes the only part

Bingo

Doesnt every bigtime band have a defining album?

LOL! that's the first thing i thought of when i read the piece.? it's so fuckin' funny.? :hihi:


Actually Dave, he said "only a couple of tracks".? ;D

well...? in any event - it's better to hear him making comments like this.
Tomorrow is a court date, right?? ?:hihi:

Axl + Slash = Fucking Trite.

John Lennon created some truly brilliant music as did Brian Wilson without their former counterparts. Axl had me believing that Slash wasn't relevant to this new GNR when Buckethead came aboard. If he did that once...he can do it again. Drop something brilliant on us, and we will all believe. Its all about the music.

Maybe the original Gn'R won't reunite but I'd be just as happy if only Axl and Slash reunited ,that would be fucking cool.But what seems good is the thing with ex-members bashing Axl after this VR hype seems to be ending. Maybe Slash's feelings for Axl are back to the way they were in the late 90's when he said "If Axl was to break down and finally realize what the meat and potatoes of Guns N' Roses always has been, I'm only a phone call away."? I don't think Slash is going to spend the rest of his life hating the guy after how much fans loved him in Guns n' Roses.

People in the UK can see it on page 353 I believe.....



/jarmo

I think that Slash wanted to say something!!!
I think this words are mesage for Axl Rose,maybe Slash want to play with Axl again!!!
That's great,but then we have to wait 2 years more

He is so why doubt it and who ever said Slash is a liar. Not me so i agree

you'll see during the next tour, at every show people will massively ask Axl to bring slash back. That will be a non stop request.

It's strange that some of you hate Slash so much that when he says something nice about Axl, you hate him even more. Get a life.

Thank you, Slash!  :rant:  Thank you!
Mikka I was told off for saying this. not a bit sarcastic that was. :'(

Slash speaking well of axl n CD and this time claiming to know nothing might be a good omen. who knows?

Nes,
No matter how great they are? Like the last tour? I don't think so.
I hope not.  imagine how much hard time they will have gone through by then.

You must remember Axl is 42 years old and not the prettiest guy around anymore. it has to be very hard to attract new fans, 'cause he isn't the same vital energy guy he was during appetite and illusions. what im trying to prove here is, moving the album release forward every year and month makes it harder for him to get attention for he's new band, 'cause think about how fast time passes by, soon hes 45 and flying goes time he's 50.

I think that's sentiment that will always be present, I expect there will be pleas for Axl's return wherever/whenever Slash plays as well..

in one way you're right,but now in his 43 axl is better musican,now he has a lot of expirience and he has a music industry in his small finger!!!
He now to make a hit(he knew that in his youngage too),but now he is music expert!!!
and all we know old words about wine!!!

Slash didn't say "Axl is brillant", splat write what they want  :confused: Why do they want to add their 2 cents  ::)

Try and notice where the quotation marks are in the headline and article. Maybe that will give you a slightly better understanding of the quotes from Slash.  :rofl:

Like another post said, buckethead has proven that Slash can be replaced.  So I could care less if Slash ever reunites with Axl.  The key missing person is, was, and always will be Izzy.  The wheels came off when he left.  Izzy wrote songs, Slash wrote solos.  I can picture Axl and Izzy working for hours on a song and then it comes time for a solo.  They walk over to a couch in the studio, wake Slash up from his drug induced stupor, put a guitar in his hand and tell him to play a solo.  Out comes the same old variation of all  of Slash's previous solos.  Slash puts guitar down and nods off on the couch again.

Yea so can Buckethead!


Oviously u like izzy more thyan slash but jus cus u do doesnt mean that slash wont be forgotten. i mean the pple in my class dont listen to rock n roll at all they're all into this dance crap, but i was talkin to one of the boys an he was askin me who my fav band or artist was an i said guns n roses an he goes "oh yea i know them, thats the guy with all the hair an the top hat,they sing sweet child o mine an paradise city right?" i mean pple will always remember him more than izzy an im not sayin slash is better than izzy im jus sayin that izzy isnt more important than slash, they were a band.

Id also like to point out that it was slash that gave this interview an that he probly thinks izzy's brilliant as well!
 :peace:
Cubb

It's actually misleading. Those quotation marks can mean anything.

Is that all Pingo?

No they can't. The words in quotation marks are the words that came from Slash in the interview.

Ok.
I misunderstood what you two were talking about.

  My opinion is Slash probaly has inside info in the music industry that this album is actually comin out and it is very good.  With that said, Slash would be a idoit to bash Axl for the mere fact that if this album kicks ass its gonna make slash look like a idoit for bashin.

Just my opinion though.

blasphemer

Great minds think alike!   ;D
maybe He even had a listen n got completely blown away already.
Yep, to my wishful thinking.

thanks ppbebe  ;D

Slash generally speaks highly of Axl, and has said many times how talented he thinks Axl is. But obviously they have different work ethics and differences of opinion musically.

The interview was from the Uk's Channel 4 - Tv text service. And he did say that, it was a genuine compliment.

Slated by whom?

More B.S.!

Bullshit.  Ill informed, and misguided.  Please go back and check on the credits of some of Guns BEST songs.  They're not all, as some GnR fans blindly mis-remember, all written by Axl and Izzy.  Welcome to the Jungle.  Coma.  Just two phenomenal tracks.  Both entirely Slash and Axl songs.  Please stop being so misguided.

Oh my god... Jimmy and James... you two are going to make me cry!! You're reminding me of the fact that they're not even friends anymore! Why can't someone just kidnap them both, stick them in a secure room, and not let them out until they're friends again!!!? Surely isn't that the way? They won't do it on their own!

Oh ignore me!! I'm tired and PMSing, and pissed off that the greatest American rock band (well said Jimmy!) has been long dead, and also that in years and years and years, when ChiDem has been and gone, people will forget what Guns N' Roses once was! Appetite For Destruction will always sell, but never as much as it did, and I'm just rambling now because I feel like shit. *le sigh*

LONG LIVE GUNS N' FUCKIN' ROSES! *too much metal for one hand symbol*

Axl will not reunite with slash if at all IMO until after all the chinese democracy session music is out because axl i dont think would be an ass to the guys that have been with him for this long and be like ok you guys are out and slash is back in as much of an ass some of us may think Axl is i dont think he woiuld be the kind of guy to screw a guy over just public demand wants it. Tommy, Robin, Brain & richard were brought in because axl felt these guys addedi  something to this band and i think Axl wants to see that thru. Maybe and only maybe after these commitments are met could there b a possible slash return.  I still feel its more important if axl had to choose would be to bring back izzy those 2 wrote what made GnR what they are.  You can always find a good guitarist a great song writer in my opinion is a different story.

I used to think a reunion was completely out of the question. I dont think its such a far fetched idea anymore. But Axl has to get CD out of his system first, and show the world he can do it 'on his own'. When Slash, Izzy,Duff, and Matt did some sessions, ans supposedly saved the material for a possible future GNR project, I took that as a good sign. Another good sign is the fact that Slash, Duff, and Izzy havent been "bashing" Axl lately.

I don't know, I am so skeptical about the whole reunion thing.  I just don't think Axl will do it.   He seems like one of those people that you piss him off or you wrong him in some way and that's it, you're dead to him.  Also, I can't see Slash and those guys doing it either just because they aren't bashing Axl lately, I don't necessarily know that, that means Slash or Duff would join the stage with him.  But, maybe they are letting their guard down, more relaxed cause VR is doing so well.   Just my opinion, I guess after all the mud swinging between these guys over the years, it's just hard to for me to think they would........but how sweet would that be :peace: 

Just like a mob boss.  :hihi:

DTJ, I see what you're saying, and Axl does have a reputation for burning bridges permanently, but he did try bringing Izzy back in to the fold in 1998, even after making harsh remarks about Izzy in some old interviews. So even though the chances are slim, its possible. If Axl were to call them, they'd probably be at his mansion in 5 minutes. Even if they hated each other, it's possible. Jagger hates Richards, and The Eagles supposedly hate each other's guts. But I wouldnt want them back if hate was involved. GNR had a special magic, and I highly doubt hatred would create very good new material. I'm using the Stones as an example of that.

1996

But The Stones never broke up. Face it, there will not be a reunion in the near future. Maybe if Axl releases Chinese Democracy, some years go by and he'll hate Finck & Co more than Slash & Co... But I think he'll find another players, not the old ones. No, there will be no reunion.

But what you have to remember is that Axl is 42 now.? I'd hope that by the time i get to that age i'd have learnt a thing or two.? I love Axl, but you can't keep making excuses for these grown men.? How long can you keep a grudge you know? It's nearly 10 years since Slash left.

As far as we know nothing serious happened between them, didn't even come to blows.? ?Their relationship just dissolved through both of their faults, egos, money, difference of direction ect.? But most of it is hot air and like i said as far as we know nothing too serious.? ?

Life is too short for BS.? We're all guilty of it from time to time, but surely 10 years is enough healing time for anyone.

Slash rocks. What more should i say? ;D

Up to the RIR3 show , axl's hatred for the old members was still very visible. Blaming them , the former friends , for trying to keep him from being there that night.

I wish he woulda went into more detail of exactly what that meant.  ???

That was nearly as lame an excuse as blaming the BH departure for the last RIR cancelation.

Ha! yeah, except he can't kill them ;)

Well if Axl was to ever soften and Slash and Co would be into it, that would be most amazing : ok:

why is it a lame excuse?

And was it even an excuse? He was saying his side of the story and how the old members did everything they could to stop him from moving foward with the gnr name, etc. How is that lame?

commonly referred to as a 'siege mentality'

maybe its the truth??

maybe, but Axl tends to have a habit of explaining delays/no shows/cancellations by deferring blame onto others.
It is often explained in a way that would lead one to assume people are attacking him or perhaps more appropriately 'out to get him' which is why i mention the siege mentality

How in any way did any of his former bandmates try to prevent him from continuing his musical career?

Through all the he said/they said BS, lawsuits and general backbiting, I don't recall anyything regarding the former members trying to prevent him from making music and touring.

That could be metaphor for the harassing pressure the reunionists (in the industry)that keep trying to push him to reunite with his former friends, put on the band or for the legal issues with them over the rights to the songs n stuff.

Ok,Pure speculation.

here's my hollywood happy thought....

when slash said that only a couple of songs had finished vocal tracks, only a couple of songs had finished vocal tracks.

now the thing is done and it's comming sometime during the 4. quarter of 05 and slash knows it so he might aswell be positve about the whole ordeal and his ol pal axl.

what do you give me? ;)

erose, welcome to da club.  :D

basphemer and me have gone to your hollywood at page 3.

I hope you're right  :drool:

are you trying to say GNR coulda played RIR4 without Buckethead?! Impossible! Who woulda played the "think about you" solo break?!

yes. The band would have been less ridiculous onstage.

Awesome. Then why did they , as a band , chicken out and say that without Buckethead it was IMPOSSIBLE to play RIR4? And whats more , havent even been heard from since?!

Axl said they would take the recordings a step further and have a release date in a couple months. Thats was what , a year or more ago now?!  :hihi:

Let me nitpick. Actually, He said THEY hoped to announce it in a FEW months time.  :P

Nesquick. You are indeed obsessed with BH, nay? You're using every opportunity to broach Bucket talk. : ok:

He's just scared of men in masks.  :hihi:

It's just that for me, when I think "buckethead" and "Guns n' roses", something wrong comes from that association. it just doesn't make "it". It's like if you put nesquick in water instead of putting it in milk (not me, the chocolate for breakfeast ;D).

But if you like nesquick with water, that's your choice, not mine. :hihi:

Did you ever think Bucket quit because there were too many guitar players and he was having to share parts and leads with the others? Bucket would absolutely tear up any Gnr riff or lead if it was just him as the sole lead player. However, I would get bored too if I had to stand around and watch two average players play a cover version of Out Ta Get Me. Bucket should be lead on everything and Fortus or Finck could be rhythm. Then, just hire another sideman to fill in on tour. Unless you have seen Bucket up close and personal outside of Gnr, then you really are very unqualified to discuss his guitar playing ability. :rant:

Uh, yes.

If his playing was absolutely essential to any one particular song, just don't play it.

See, people have to separate the two bands. Bucket fits perfectly on the new material but of course he looks out of place playing songs as simple as Appetite. You don't need three guitar players to play that stuff-hell, you don't need three to play the new songs we've heard. We can't speak for the material we have not heard. Once the new band drops their record, they will be an entity all their own, regardless of the name. I don't want a cheap remake of the old band-give me a brand new monster or give me nothing at all. :beer:

My feelings exactely

Bucket gave the band a whole new dynamic and  took the focus off of not having Slash there. Yea there were people who said wheres Slash, this cant be done w/out SLash, etc...but by the same time they were talking about Bucket {good or bad}. Axl was very smart for bringing him along. But now lets see how smart he is with coming up with a replacement for Big B or maybe even trying to get him back....