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Title: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: conny on September 28, 2005, 04:53:23 PM
This is from an email I got from Richard Fortus. No earth shattering news here, I just thought I'd pass this along.

Here's what he wrote:

"I will tell you that I understand the frustration of the fans. I hate it that people feel like we are stringing them along. I assure you that we have no intentions of doing this. We honestly want to move forward with this as much as you guys want us too. We aren't lying to anyone. We would have nothing to gain from that. I understand that Guns has probably alienated most of the old Gn'R fans out there in some way, and at this point, the only way we could possibly redeem ourselves, is to release a great fucking record and start touring again. That's all we want to do.




Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Falcon on September 28, 2005, 05:05:09 PM
Nice to hear Richard understands the frustration level.

thanks for posting Conny. : ok:


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Morley on September 28, 2005, 05:09:01 PM
Ok... but, any plans?

I also understand my frustration, what I don?t understand is the reason of Axl?s silence.


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: RnT on September 28, 2005, 05:10:38 PM
hey conny, you just sent an email thru his site and he just wrote you back? just like that?


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Izzy on September 28, 2005, 05:12:10 PM
Better not be an automated response!


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Evolution on September 28, 2005, 05:13:47 PM
Cool to hear from Richard, and some new sentence strung together in response to fan questions  : ok:


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: ppbebe on September 28, 2005, 05:20:13 PM
"I understand that Guns has probably alienated most of the old Gn'R fans out there in some way, and at this point, the only way we could possibly redeem ourselves, is to release a great fucking record and start touring again. That's all we want to do.

Thanks conny. this is a damn nice letter.
How humble yet confident!!!:headbanger:


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: jameslofton29 on September 28, 2005, 05:50:05 PM
Definitely the best comments from Richard so far. No promises. No hype. Just a normal response.


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Will on September 28, 2005, 06:07:29 PM
That's cool of him to send that. We are frustrated indeed, but that is because we don't really understand how they've been so silent these past few years. I'm sure they can't say why nothing's happening, but when you don't know, it is frustrating indeed.


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: killingvector on September 28, 2005, 06:15:47 PM
Very honest and sympathetic. I appreciate this message from Richard.


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Voodoochild on September 28, 2005, 06:17:05 PM
Great reply from Richard. Thanks, conny!


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: The New Fiona Apple on September 28, 2005, 06:36:23 PM
CAN WE EVER CAN ANY CINCH OF INFORMATION? I mean it has been 3 years. This means nothing to me if  I don't get any information.


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Evolution on September 28, 2005, 06:46:38 PM
CAN WE EVER CAN ANY CINCH OF INFORMATION? I mean it has been 3 years. This means nothing to me if  I don't get any information.

It's better than nothing


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: conny on September 28, 2005, 06:55:10 PM
Better not be an automated response!

I said it's from, not the email. ?;)

I can tell you it's not automated, he actually replied to what I had written.


@ The New Fiona

I wasn't even asking for information, so you have to cut him some slack on this one. I think his response is very nice and just shows how the band (at least Richard) cares and are/is aware of the situation in the fan camp.


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on September 28, 2005, 08:14:46 PM
Conny,

  Thank you so much for posting that e-mail response.  Good stuff like that keeps me comin' back.  I can't tell you how badly I want to see these guys put it all together.

-Axl4Prez2004


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: erose on September 28, 2005, 08:26:13 PM
did he say anything about the nena deal?

 :peace:


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Saul on September 28, 2005, 08:41:24 PM
so forward as we move , still the frustration seems neverending. It over washes me and cleans my soul, soon so it will for you. It must for it is.

L Ov E,
R oBin

 :rofl:

robins email starts now.


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: jazjme on September 28, 2005, 09:17:33 PM
Richards responses, are always real , I have had email contact with him for some time, but I am more interested in things that are goin on with him like when he is doin gigs and stuff, here in NYC, Ive met and talked to him, and I dont feel like beatin the GNR thing with him, I asked a few questions , got answers, and I know there is no point in harassing , I like to take pics at his shows, send them to him for his board, and I love his guitar work and how he performs, when GNR tour again, like in 2002, I'll be there, and just happy that my fav band is back, and knowin that up there are a few members I have gotten to talk to and have a drink with , and are really down to earth real people, like any one of us.


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Aero on September 28, 2005, 10:11:56 PM
I belive Richard feels frustrated too...

I bet there are LOTS of legal problems, not just "axl's crazy blablabal"  :peace:


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: AxlsMainMan on September 29, 2005, 08:29:06 PM
Richards responses, are always real , I have had email contact with him for some time, but I am more interested in things that are goin on with him like when he is doin gigs and stuff, here in NYC, Ive met and talked to him, and I dont feel like beatin the GNR thing with him, I asked a few questions , got answers, and I know there is no point in harassing , I like to take pics at his shows, send them to him for his board, and I love his guitar work and how he performs, when GNR tour again, like in 2002, I'll be there, and just happy that my fav band is back, and knowin that up there are a few members I have gotten to talk to and have a drink with , and are really down to earth real people, like any one of us.

Does Richard Fortus remind anyone else of Ronnie Wood from the stones?? I saw them live Monday and Ronnie pretty much had the same over enthusiasm in his playing style with definately similar on stage body language when crucifying some material..not to mention the same haircut and clothes..I think it's cool if thats the image Richard has set for himself a la Izzy and Keith Richards.


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Chief on September 30, 2005, 01:34:14 AM
thanks for posting.. that is so cool of him to reply like that


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Mikkamakka on September 30, 2005, 05:29:04 AM
Richards responses, are always real , I have had email contact with him for some time, but I am more interested in things that are goin on with him like when he is doin gigs and stuff, here in NYC, Ive met and talked to him, and I dont feel like beatin the GNR thing with him, I asked a few questions , got answers, and I know there is no point in harassing , I like to take pics at his shows, send them to him for his board, and I love his guitar work and how he performs, when GNR tour again, like in 2002, I'll be there, and just happy that my fav band is back, and knowin that up there are a few members I have gotten to talk to and have a drink with , and are really down to earth real people, like any one of us.

Does Richard Fortus remind anyone else of Ronnie Wood from the stones?? I saw them live Monday and Ronnie pretty much had the same over enthusiasm in his playing style with definately similar on stage body language when crucifying some material..not to mention the same haircut and clothes..I think it's cool if thats the image Richard has set for himself a la Izzy and Keith Richards.

I think there is some similarity, but Richard is a better guitarist, since old Ron hasn't heard about scales and doesn't care about them. (And it reminds me of another guitarist...)


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Saul on September 30, 2005, 07:31:09 AM


I think there is some similarity, but Richard is a better guitarist, since old Ron hasn't heard about scales and doesn't care about them. (And it reminds me of another guitarist...)

Buckethead?!  ???

No , wait. I know who you mean.  :rofl:


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Eva GnRAxlRosette on September 30, 2005, 09:33:35 AM
 :love: Richard!  :love:


Richard is great!  I'll be so happy when everything starts in motion for them... and sincerely wish them the best.  They really deserve to reap the benefits and rewards of all they've invested in the band.  Seems also Richard is looking forward to when us fans can enjoy.   :beer:


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: nesquick on September 30, 2005, 09:39:07 AM
For me Richard is a mix between Izzy, Ron Wood and...Slash. Yes, Slash.
In this new band, Fortus is the closest one to Slash concerning the guitar playing. I have always said this guy will become a world class guitar player once CD comes out and once the band tours the World. He's got everything to succeed: the talent, the energy, the feeling, a great guitar sound and...the style. That guy has style, he has some class onstage. Have you heard his own demos? Check "dead again" and all his western demos, it kicks ass. He is THE ONLY new guitarist in this band who is able to make me "forget" Slash onstage.


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: babydolls on September 30, 2005, 09:45:05 AM
thanks conny - good to read that - a nice reply and sounded heartfelt too.
I know people must be frustrated - but it will be worth it!!!  I am SURE of it.

The fact that i saw gn'r in 2002 is something i thought would never happen - so as long as I have to wait for their new music - I will.


 ;D


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Luigi on September 30, 2005, 10:42:35 AM
oh my gosh' Now I can't stand it, if these guys play like I think were in for some great music. The goose bumps start now!


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Kurupt Girl on September 30, 2005, 12:00:48 PM
cool e-mail, i'm 100% certain axl cares deeply about his fans and that he will put out on of the best damn records of all time! it'll be worth the wait, that's what richard seems to think too 8)


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: ppbebe on September 30, 2005, 06:25:32 PM
Yep it's a cool and heartfelt letter.



I think there is some similarity, but Richard is a better guitarist, since old Ron hasn't heard about scales and doesn't care about them. (And it reminds me of another guitarist...)

Buckethead?!  ???

No , wait. I know who you mean.  :rofl:

Another Ron......... Tha :-X

No wait, I got it.  You're talking about the rolling stones, right?

Bo Diddley! :headbanger:


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Johnnyblood on October 01, 2005, 09:49:22 AM
Thank you for putting that up Conny. I've liked Richard since the first time I saw him. There were obvious comparisons to Izzy right away, but he's definitely not a toss off of another person. Richard is Richard. I'm probably one of the few that thinks it's cool that he isn't too uptight to tour with Nena or do sessions with that boy band. Because he's obviously got his stripes in real rock. I'm listening to Jesse Malin right now. I think that's more Richard's thing, but he's not going to live like a religious zealot only doing that one thing. My favorite musical touch with GNR is the lick he added to Rocket Queen. Richard and Tommy are the two guys I look at as evidence that this bird may actually fly someday.


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on October 01, 2005, 04:25:10 PM
" I feel your pain." - Bill Clinton



Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Queen of Everything on October 01, 2005, 08:51:45 PM
Thats Wik!!!

What happens when CD comes out? (random)
What if it isn't that good.  What will HTGTH become?  I'm actually NRVOUS about it.  :nervous:



 :hihi: : ok: :peace:


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: jameslofton29 on October 02, 2005, 08:35:02 PM
dramaqueen, I've also wondered what will happen to this site after the CD hysteria is over. I know that there will be alot of people here in the before and after CD release. I'm really looking forward to seeing everyone's review of the album. I dont think a tour will keep as much interest as the wait for CD. Alot of people will probably "move on". Maybe this site will go back to people remembering the good old days, but not many will stick around for that. Over the past 12 years of waiting, this has been the best GNR site. It would be a shame for it to die off.


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Queen of Everything on October 02, 2005, 10:09:19 PM
dramaqueen, I've also wondered what will happen to this site after the CD hysteria is over. I know that there will be alot of people here in the before and after CD release. I'm really looking forward to seeing everyone's review of the album. I dont think a tour will keep as much interest as the wait for CD. Alot of people will probably "move on". Maybe this site will go back to people remembering the good old days, but not many will stick around for that. Over the past 12 years of waiting, this has been the best GNR site. It would be a shame for it to die off.
Thats what i was TRYING to say above but i couldnt say it as fluently as you.  What will become of HTGTH??  I know I will be staying, mainly beause the whole atmosphere has become part of me or somthing.  Lots of really great people with things in common to me.  And its not as if we ONLY talk about GNR... we have the Jungle!!  :)

But we shall see... We shall see.....


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Saul on October 03, 2005, 06:40:48 AM
we'll sit around and speculate on the follow up albums you silly willys.

The followup albums start now!!


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: Queen of Everything on October 03, 2005, 06:44:12 AM
we'll sit around and speculate on the follow up albums you silly willys.

The followup albums start now!!

hahaha!!!!!

The Killing of myself stars now!!!

We'll just have to see what the future holds!

I bet we just sit and winge about CD for a while


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: jameslofton29 on October 03, 2005, 07:21:15 AM
Yeah Saul, I can see it now. In 2015, you'll be saying: Chinese Democracy Vol.2 starts now! :o :beer:


Title: Re: E-Mail from Richard: "I understand the frustration of the fans."
Post by: makane on October 03, 2005, 09:50:54 AM
"We could, want, could, want, maybe, could" THEN PLEASE DO. If they understands our "frustration", why don't they tell what they've been doing past "3" years, except sending "hang on there" e-mails?
Writing some information doesn't have to mean Chinise Democracy release date. Even something little like "Axl doesn't look like a rapper anymore" that can't hurt them, but what a package of information it is for GN'R fans.
("we're finishing the cd" doesn't count as information anymore)