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Title: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on March 28, 2006, 07:14:43 AM
OK,

I was flying back from the UK and I had an idea.

If you want to release CD and have it happen leak free then do this:

Do not start cd pressing (when many leaks occur), release Chinese Democracy via iTunes in May 16 (for example)... but only release say 8 of the final 13 tracks for say $9.99 US. For that matter, some of the tracks may even be different mixes. However, when you download the album you get a "digital cupon" just like the digital booklets Apple offer. This cupon will be good at any Best Buy, Circuit City, Virgin, HMV etc. for $8.00 off Chinese Democracy, to be released on June 13th with all 13 tracks and an exclusive b-side availiable from iTunes on the same date when/if you enter your hard copy cd's UPC code. Thus, this will essentially sell 2 copies of Chinese Democracy to every and most any casual fan. I think most fans would not even bother with downloading the album with the intent to shell out the minimal $4 - $5 anyway on the 13th if only for the cover art.

What do you think?


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on March 28, 2006, 07:17:45 AM
I think i just wanna buy the CD in my local music store and not download it somewhere...


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: odd1 on March 28, 2006, 07:28:58 AM
me to, I just want to buy in my local music shop. I will be there the minute they open the doors.
And I can tell you one thing, I am not going to work the day it released. :peace:


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: Lesty on March 28, 2006, 01:10:13 PM
That's way too complicated. That might work for die hards, but the average rock fan is not going to go through all of that.
The latest idea I've seen is the one Prince. He had "purple tickets" (similar to Willy Wonka's golden ticket) inserted in random CDs that were just released. If you got a purple ticket, you were invited to a free concert at his home in Los Angeles. The problem is the odds of getting a ticket are about 1 in 100,000.

This is unrealistic for most bands, but I think there will be a lof of new innovations to  encourage CD sales.


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: Krispy Kreme on March 28, 2006, 01:13:09 PM
Too complicated. After 15 years, it should be  easy, not hard. And the easier the better.


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: Continental Drift on March 28, 2006, 01:13:37 PM
HAHA... "100,000 copies of Chinese Democracy please." :peace:


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: busngabb on March 28, 2006, 01:28:44 PM
I would just get it for free off the internet and then buy it if it were good enough, like I do with all albums I fancy.


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: CAFC Nick on March 28, 2006, 01:45:44 PM
HAHA... "100,000 copies of Chinese Democracy please." :peace:

I ordered 9999 copies of Chinese Democracy when it was listed on Amazon in December  : ok:


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on March 28, 2006, 01:50:04 PM
me to, I just want to buy in my local music shop. I will be there the minute they open the doors.
And I can tell you one thing, I am not going to work the day it released. :peace:
ha ha me neither  :hihi:


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: Backslash on March 28, 2006, 02:03:05 PM
I think that tracks will leak anyway.  Albums seem to be falling into the wrong hands a lot these days.  I can't see any way around it other than to kill anyone who handles the album prior to its release.  Of course, that would be illogical.  :hihi:


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: JAC185 on March 28, 2006, 02:46:01 PM
People could just put the downloaded files on P2P networks couldnt they?


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: The Dog on March 28, 2006, 02:56:45 PM
Must have been a LONG flight dude.....you really think about CD in your spare time when you're not on this site? hahaha. WOW.


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on March 28, 2006, 03:11:45 PM
Must have been a LONG flight dude.....you really think about CD in your spare time when you're not on this site? hahaha. WOW.

Yeah it was.

The plan isn't that complicated though. Simply release it on iTunes first, they do it all the time with EP's to get everyone rowleed up. How complicated is a cupon? You guys ever get a mail in rebate? People do that all the time, surely they can figure out a cupon?


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on March 28, 2006, 03:15:42 PM
Must have been a LONG flight dude.....you really think about CD in your spare time when you're not on this site? hahaha. WOW.

Yeah, sometimes after spending only 15 minutes or so online my thoughts carry over... and sometimes, when nobody is looking and I am listening to a band... I even like think about them. Crazy!? :o

LOL, you have 716 posts!

Hypocrite maybe?


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: nonlinear on March 28, 2006, 03:18:13 PM
^^not to mention those 716 posts have been since 28 Feb. when he registered   :P


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on March 28, 2006, 03:19:42 PM
^^not to mention those 716 posts have been since 28 Feb. when he registered? ?:P

pwnd!  ;D


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: oneway23 on March 28, 2006, 03:20:40 PM
I'm afraid leak free is practically non-existant in this day and age, but let's get a date, then we'll speculate on promotional strategies...But, to your point, yes, i agree, how freakin' difficult is a coupon to comprehend?  I thought it was a brilliant, innovative idea.


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: -Jack- on March 28, 2006, 05:06:04 PM
You can't leak proof anything. Its pointless.

If Chinese Democracy came out that way, the very next day I could use Limewire to download the whole thing.


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: Mandy. on March 28, 2006, 05:10:22 PM
I think i just wanna buy the CD in my local music store and not download it somewhere...

Exactly! I'm thinking that's what the great majority in the board want.


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on March 28, 2006, 07:40:28 PM
You can't leak proof anything. Its pointless.

If Chinese Democracy came out that way, the very next day I could use Limewire to download the whole thing.

I said leak free not theft free. I was suggesting this as an option to minimize the likelyhood of the cd being pulled off the pressing assembly line by a minimum wage employee and uploaded to the internet before the official release date. If it stays in the same hands it has until the day of release then all we will get are songs Axl hands out to people, like the few we have now.


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on March 28, 2006, 07:42:22 PM
I think i just wanna buy the CD in my local music store and not download it somewhere...

Exactly! I'm thinking that's what the great majority in the board want.

That is exactly what my option promotes. You essentially get the download for free before the release date. The when it comes out you get the hard copy for the extra 4 bucks. Jeez, some of you guys are totally missing the premise of my initial post.


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: jimmythegent on March 28, 2006, 07:43:27 PM
nice idea in theory, but many people still want to walk into  a record shop and buy the product

not everyone is PC savvy 


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on March 28, 2006, 07:47:02 PM
nice idea in theory, but many people still want to walk into? a record shop and buy the product

not everyone is PC savvy?

That is true. I bet it would sell alot of iPods though.  :P


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: -Jack- on March 28, 2006, 07:56:54 PM
You can't leak proof anything. Its pointless.

If Chinese Democracy came out that way, the very next day I could use Limewire to download the whole thing.

I said leak free not theft free. I was suggesting this as an option to minimize the likelyhood of the cd being pulled off the pressing assembly line by a minimum wage employee and uploaded to the internet before the official release date. If it stays in the same hands it has until the day of release then all we will get are songs Axl hands out to people, like the few we have now.

Ah your right. 100% my misunderstanding. Sorry.


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: -Jack- on March 28, 2006, 07:57:47 PM
Speaking of ipods...

They should make a GNR ipod. Like they did with U2. They could include the album on the thing

Of corse...this wont happen.. but o well


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on March 28, 2006, 07:59:57 PM
Speaking of ipods...

They should make a GNR ipod. Like they did with U2. They could include the album on the thing

Of corse...this wont happen.. but o well

That would be awesome. Make it a nano so it would be affordable.


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: mikegiuliana on March 28, 2006, 08:05:17 PM
I think i just wanna buy the CD in my local music store and not download it somewhere...

Exactly! I'm thinking that's what the great majority in the board want.

who doesn't... I only listened to the damn leaks because there's nothing else going for the fans


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on March 28, 2006, 08:21:13 PM
It wont leak if they just ship the cds next day on mon so it comes out on a tue.


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: a. on March 28, 2006, 08:38:59 PM
As an idea, you can do what Massive Attack just did. They announced the release of their new "Collected" CD of hits and unreleased music to come out next Tuesday (Monday in the U.K.). It's a 2CD set. If you go to HMV today though, it's there, but not the 2CD set, just the greatest hits portion of it (i.e., the first CD). The 2CD set release date was changed today from next Tuesday (or Monday in the U.K.) to this Thursday. How unorthodox is a Thursday release? Well, in the grande scheme of things, it doesn't really matter, cause who ever came up with Monday or Tuesday as a release? And, why would Axl need to follow that??? I wouldn't. Eminem didn't.... it really throws everyone off when you "announce" something, but then don't play by your own "rules".

/The Rev.


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: estranged.1098 on March 28, 2006, 09:15:01 PM
Unfortunately Apple's store sells music with DRM crap (Digital Restrictions Management), so making it the only option of getting the new songs (at first) would be really annoying.


Title: Re: How to release a leak free Chinese Democracy.
Post by: Megaguns on March 28, 2006, 09:24:03 PM
me to, I just want to buy in my local music shop. I will be there the minute they open the doors.
And I can tell you one thing, I am not going to work the day it released. :peace:
ha ha me neither? :hihi:
It will be funny on the release day to go to the doctors office and see all these people in gunners shirts etc pretending to be sick to get a certificate to show theyre employers.