Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I know GN'R are mentioned for every festival and probably won't happen but as it mentions GN'R I thought I'd share. As it says, don't hold your breath  :peace:  BTW.. 115 pound for a ticket.. that's insane!

First three bands for Download

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01 February 2006

 The Prodigy, Trivium, and Bullet For My Valentine are the first acts to be confirmed for this year's Download festival - and tickets are on sale here from Friday.

Download 2006 takes place at Donington Park from 9-11 June and is expected to once again play host to some of the finest heavy rock acts from around the world.

Despite Bullet For My Valentine, The Prodigy and Trivium being the first acts to be announced, only The Prodigy have been confirmed as main stage headliner. The other two are expected to feature high up the bill, possibly even headlining the second stage.

Organisers have promised to announce bands as and when they are confirmed, so expect a flurry of announcements over the coming months.

Other bands doing the rounds as possibles for Download include Korn, Placebo, In Flames, and (don't hold your breath!) Guns 'N' Roses.

Weekend tickets are priced ?115 (?135 with camping and parking) and are available here from Friday 3 February. Click here for more info on Download 2006.

http://www.virtualfestivals.com/festivals/article.cfm?articleid=2414

If they do..

Ill be there, thats all I can say ;)

we can only hope and pray... :P

And recently there have been rumor from a festival in Italy.(Gods of Metal)...

At the end, the Live staff writes that for the headliner's name we must have "just a little patience" ! ! ![/color]

From mygnrforum

yeah   a small metal festival......    gnr don`t appear at neither small nor metal festivals

whitesnake is playing at the gods of metal one, why wouldn't GN'R?

and don't say GN'R is more popular, because half the world thinks they're a fuckin joke.

GNR are more popular. if half the world thinks GNR are a "fucking joke", then what does that make Whitesnake? Whitesnake were popular for about 5 minutes in the late 80's. The whole fucking planet prefers the originality of Axl Rose over David Coverdale's lame Robert Plant imitations.

because GN'R is not really a "metal" band. GN'R has always been different from the "metal" scene. They have always been more Rock than metal. Just more real and better.

GNR is more popular.  :P

im sorry but GNR is most "metal" than Whitesnake.did you have forget AFD ?

Appetite doesn't sound metal. It sounds rock/hard-rock but not metal exept maybe "you are crazy". 

You're Crazy sure doesn't strike me as a "metal" song..

Just another great hard rock track on an album full of those : ok:

"afuckenmen" to thaT!!

Axl's new band sounds more metal than the old band ever did, and you can see that from the 2002 shows.

i don`t think so ... and by the way i never heard of whitesnake : ok: soe they don`t seem to be that popular.

Hey! Take a look at this...

http://getlive.co.uk/festivals/details.aspx?rid=133287

Hmm...

Ha! They're a slight rumor; like Placebo...

Go to the official Download festival site and they aren't listed.  I would think this means that they are not confirmed yet.

But anyway.
i this rumour comes from the festival, not posters..

Well its very interesting that they are named on there website...

we get stuff like this every year but when was the last time we had a statement of axl sayin "we get rumoured to be at every big festival,but we,ll have to wait and see".

Found this. 
http://www.rosshalfin.co.uk/diary/february-2006/diary-february-2006.html


I have to write some copy this weekend on Guns 'N Roses for a feature to go with my photos. My mind is blank at the moment. The thing is if you tell the truth it sets off too many wars, or egos way out of control. The orignal line-up is supposed to play Download in June with their metal chums, Metallica, if Lars can be bothered to turn up.

M?tley Cr?e was headliner last year...

What does that mean? write some copy ??

this is crazy... what the fuck is up with that halfin guy??? As if he's the one to break the news of a gn'r reunion??? what the hell is going on, i'm loosing my mind here :confused: :nervous:

Yeah, i dont understand a shit! Nothing.. can someone please tell me what this is?

What does he mean by

 The orignal line-up is supposed to play Download in June


Maybe a inside conspiracy that's going to shock us all? :drool: :hihi:

Hes gotten in shit before for spreading stuff in his diary.... he doesnt like Axl!

Jonx

so do you think it's just a flat out lie?

two words for this halfin guy"bull shit".

Could he mean the original lineup as Velvet Revolver..?

Gnr original linup minus Axl

Maybe this is what Axl meant by "you'll hear music this year". :hihi: He never said "new" music. :hihi: This has to be bullshit, and if its not, it is absolutely worst case scenario for 'new' GNR. Axl might have already abandoned them. Since these guys were basically just musicians for hire, Axl can probably just release the album whenever he wants to without any involvement from them.

i really dont think robin and the guys have anything to worry about coz any GNR fan will say the chance of a reunion is very very small.

No but as usual we have no idea whats going on. I dunno i cant be arsed to speculate! Im treating it as bullshit!

Jonx

Was this posted here yet?

This was posted at mygnr...but there is an actual source for it:

http://www.rosshalfin.co.uk/diary/february-2006/diary-february-2006.html#

Um...

what the fuck?


"I have to write some copy this weekend on Guns 'N Roses for a feature to go with my photos. My mind is blank at the moment. The thing is if you tell the truth it sets off too many wars, or egos way out of control. The orignal line-up is supposed to play Download in June with their metal chums, Metallica, if Lars can be bothered to turn up."


Unless he's just making this up - which if he is, its a really shitty thing to do.

:o
Yeah that's why Axl says "WE are working on..." Tommy and Brain say "THEY"! referring to the old guys.

If that was the case, congrats reuionists, I'd quit.

GNR fans also said CD would be released in 2002. ::)

Why does the term "we" have to mean the new band members? Maybe Axl was referring to himself and a producer. You guys love to overanalyze Axl's comments when it helps you make your case, but like to simplify his comments when it dont.

 Although I'm on your side about a possible reunion. I'd throw in the towel. I haven't waited 13 years for AFD rehash.

http://www.getlive.co.uk/festivals/lineup.aspx?rid=133287

I'll take GN'R any way I can get GN'R...reunion, nu-GN'R..whatever. Who knows? IF and that's a VERY BIG IF its true that its a reuinion at download - it could be a one time thing and the final fairwell of the old lineup...

-Jeff

I bet Ross will erase the bit soon, like he did before. Maybe sooner than this thread and that get merged.

This is something we need some words from the management. :-\

Wellll, about the Halfin thing, didn't he learn last time when he posted about GnR? I'm sure by monday he'll tell Axl fans to stop emailing him and that is only a "slight rumor" :hihi: (ppbebe beat me :P )

Anyway it seems the pressure is really on these guys to do a reunion show. I don't think it'll happen.

-Axl with Duff? eh maybe
-Axl with Slash? a month ago a flat out no!!! but in light of their recent comments about each other i will say eh, maybe
-Axl with Izzy? dunno if they have been talking I guess anything is possible, but I just can't see Izzy wanting to perform in that kinda gig again
-Any of them with Steven? flat out no, that guy is fucked out of his tree, and not in a good way either
-Axl with Matt? hmmm, seems that Matt never got along with Axl all that great, but he is with VR so who knows. If Duff and Slsh will play with Axl, I'm sure Matt will come along too.
-Axl with Gilby? definate possibility IMO, I mean Axl already played a show with gilby back in 1999 or 2000 and gilby seems to have accepted his roll as a fill-in to Izzy and no more. he also seems like the kind of guy that everyone likes,
-Dizzy? well the guy just seems to float around and just be there when he's called on. He's like Axl's shadow, if Axl is there then Dizzy will be too.

So at most I could see Axl, Duff, Slash, Gilby, Matt and Dizzy but that is far from the "Original" Lineup. Again though if Axl and Slash haven't talked in 10 years it makes me extremely skeptical that this is even remotely possible. on the other hand we still have that unknown "Tidbit of Info" that Madagascar88 got told by Dizzy. Hey buddy is this rumor warm to the subject of that info?

Hey gunnerdownunder I think it's safe to remove that (nothing major) from the subject title :rofl: :rofl: a reunion is a bit major IMO :rofl: :rofl:

@ neemo :hihi: :hihi:


Yeah Jeff, It's not impossible if you look at the financial aspect.


Did I say the term "we" HAD to mean the new band members? It could stand for he and any particuler people, whether some of the band members or the studio crew. Or he might just say "we" as a representative of a band.

I see that mr. halfin has removed the reunion part in his diary... Wonder why he would say that, 'cause a reunion is clearly nothing he wants: [About Velvet Revolver] "I've always liked Slash. He has no ego. Even when Axl and I were at war, he stayed a friend.....Saw them at The Roxy in LA. They looked how a rock'n'roll band ought to. Hope they last"

Source: http://www.rosshalfin.co.uk/velvet-revolver/velvet-revolver10.html

...hmmmm..the plot thickens. :hihi:

't was quick.

like others said, maybe he's just messing about. taking the piss out of us.
How sickening. >:(

Now if only someone could persuade Faith No More to re-unite...

Yeah if he's just fucking with us, it needs to be put to a stop. He acts like he knows stuff, and then takes it back. Maybe you and I should pay him a visit. You wear something revealing to distract him, and I'll bring a rope. :hihi:

Will GUNS N' ROSES's classic lineup and METALLICA perform at this year's Download Festival? Legendary rock photographer Ross Halfin seems to think so. According to a February 3, 2006 posting on Halfin's official web site, "the original lineup [of GUNS N' ROSES] is supposed to play Download in June with their metal chums, METALLICA, if Lars [Ulrich, METALLICA drummer] can be bothered to turn up."

This year's installment of the Download Festival is set to take place June 9-11 at Donington Park in Leicestershire, England. Confirmed acts so far include THE PRODIGY, TRIVIUM and BULLET FOR MY VALENTINE, with the full lineup expected to be around 100 rock bands over the three days, according to eFestivals.co.uk.

Tickets went on sale on February 3, priced at ?110 for the three days, or ?135 including camping and parking. Campervans cost ?35, and parking is ?5 in advance or ?10 on the day.

First Ross Halfin speaks, then Blabbermouth picks it up. Which brings up an interesting question: Is Sp1at asleep at the wheel? :rofl: :rofl:

The fact that the original lineup being mentioned as playing says it all... not going to happen.

If they did reunite who would u rather on drums Steven or Matt? I'm a Matt dude myself, hes a better drummer and not as drug soaked as Steven.


 :peace:

Is this an actual credible rumour? Ross Halfin is a veteran and stalwart of the industry with countless insiders as friends. He wouldnt just make shit up

wheres Johan when we need him?

Fuck Johan! We need MYSTERON! :hihi: Oh fuck em both, I'll settle for darknemus!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

this is just getting so fucking weird! Much weirder then some of you posters... :hihi:

Things are getting funny now  :hihi:  This will not happen!

Aren't the snide remarks about Mysteron and other posters getting a little old now?

Oh wouldnt he. Remember last year he said Merck told him CD was finished, well we all know how that turned out. And the gh2 ditto on that one as well. Ross isn't as reliable as one might think. : ok:

Isn't everything "getting old now"? :hihi: Its not really snide remarks, it was just a little joke. Why am I always held to such a high standard? Anyone else makes a little dig at the insiders, and its the greatest thing ever. I do it, and its the end of the world.

Nope Sp1at got it, but everyone remembers what happened last time Halfin said something about Guns, which is exactly what has happened here again!

Jonx

while we are all here discussing this topic,ross halfins name is getting free publicity just like he wanted when he made up this STUPID story.

What the fuck?  I'm away for a week and all this crazy shit goes down.  Man, do I wanna believe.  I don't know though.  If its true I'll piss my pants.  Some of the recent comments from everybody have got me thinking though.  The kind words being exchanged by both sides, the fact that Axl never said anything about "Chinese Democracy" in that interview.  He just said we'd hear music.

I would like to know who will play lead guitar if GNR does some festivals this summer. ???

Don't tell me that Finck and Fortus can do it. :-\

I don't see a reunion happening anytime soon.

Ross is an insider indeed but I don't think he meant this.

Anyways, we'll find out soon...

Well i'll be at Download whatever, it would be nice to have GN'R there whether it's the new line-up or a 'reunion' of the old (Yeah right.... ::))

...I mean last year when i was there you had decent GN'R representation, Gilby Clarke w/ MC5 & Slash, Duff & Sorum w/ Velvet Revolver :headbanger:

 :no: :no: :no: That would be to a reunion!  ::)

And still the plot thickens with "Guns N Roses" listed on http://getlive.co.uk/festivals/lineup.aspx?rid=133287

Wow!  February 1st?  Dammit, I missed it!  Seriously, that's cool shit.  June 11th at Donnington.  If that's reliable, Axl better get this thing rolling.  4 months isn't that much time.    8)

You mean for a reunion ?

Why does Ross Halfin feel compelled to get attention using gnr's name? Is his photography gig slowing down? does he have a crack habit? you suck, ross! :rant:

I hardly think taken the piss out of Axl (if that's even what he's doing) in his online diary is a way of getting attention, nobody is goign to care apart from a few thousand (at most) GnR fans online.

And how does he suck ? Just because he might be having a bash at Axl. Look at his work he is an amazing photographer.

He sucks in that he seems to have a compulsion to get attention OR just knock axl repeatedly...im not questioning his talent as a photographer. just his character.

Fair enough I was just woundering

With a rumored release date of this spring for the new VR album (Libertad), which would be followed by a rumored (and I can tell you that at least Koplick in CT has gotten initial contact about a summer show) summer tour, I think we can chalk this rumor (the Halford reunion part) up to BS.? I think the VR guys are going to be a might bit busy with their own thing this summer.....

No.  I've been posting here at HTGTH for a long time, and I repeat, there will be no reunion.
Personally, I don't even want to see one.  I think it's insulting to the new band.  I figured if it says GNR on the list, they are talking about Guns N' Roses (Axl, Robin, Richard, Tommy, Brain, Dizzy, and Chris), not VR.

Geeeez, I thought the new band was an insult to the original one...

I must be wrong then.

YEAH YOU ARE WRONG! :yes:

To be honest, if there were to be a reunion, I'd like to see Slash, Axl, Duff, Brain and Fortus (possibly Finck too) in the lineup. We know Izzy wouldn't do it, Brain's a better drummer than Sorum, and hell, who wouldn't want to see Fortus and Slash on the same stage? :)

SG

I was blind, you helped me to open my eyes and now I can see the light !

Thank you guys ! :love:

How do we know that Izzy wouldn't do it ? ???

"I have to write some copy this weekend on Guns 'N Roses for a feature to go with my photos. My mind is blank at the moment. The thing is if you tell the truth it sets off too many wars, or egos way out of control. The orignal line-up is supposed to play Download in June with their metal chums, Metallica, if Lars can be bothered to turn up."


He said he didnt want to tell the truth....maybe NUGNR are playing but said original line up cause 'telling the truth sets off too many wars'.

I read it that if he says the wrong thing in his feature, it could ruin the supposed reunion.

Thats how I took it. He doesn't want to fuck up his article and say the wrong thing or piss anyone off. I wish him the best of luck on that venture. A GNR reunion in this situation isnt entirely out of the question. It would just be one show. They can hate each other, perform on stage, and go back to hating each other. Its not like they are starting another UYI type tour. Although doing this would seriously call into question Axl's dedication to 'new' GNR.

actually they don`t hate each other.......

I agree - people (myself included) would go crazy for a one off show, and if he tried to tour with the 'new' band afterwards people wouldn't buy it. If the new band are considering playing Download Axl needs to get the fuck on and release the album and promore the band members asafp

Wow... this is a mindfvck. It was interesting to note that Axl did not discuss any nu bandmembers in the RS interview (although the RS interviewer may have been too slow on his feet to ask), but rather mentioned Izzy and Slash. Also interesting to note that Dizzy (in the Cornell interview) basically confirmed that the nu guys have not all been together since December 2002. Further, Axl's higher visibility the last few weeks seems to show a certain "comfortable in my own skin" trait that he had not been known to display in recent years- in fact, I think part of the reason he's been a recluse all these years is because he was not interested in hearing a sh1tstorm everytime he goes out about letting the old band fall apart.... perahps, for some reason, he's feeling a little more "settled" on that front? Lastly, where is Axl today as a creative artist? Queen-inspired arrangements? Is that really THAT FAR removed from the world that Slash, Duff and Izzy occupy? Not a perfect fit- but, he's certainly not trying to win the award for best new goth industrial album anymore.... and Slash, Duff and Matt have shown some "flexibility" and a broadening of music taste by working with an artist like Weiland. Perhaps, if the personal (and legal) differences could be patched up- the spaces they occupy creatively at the moment are not that far apart...

Maybe I'm crazy... and like many of us here, I'm primarily a supporter of Axl and nu-GN'R- but it's undeniable that something about Axl has changed... the Axl Rose of the mid/late 90's (up until '02) was not the type to talk to Izzy on the phone or compliment Slash in the press... maybe he's just loosened up because CD is done and he's confident as fvck in it and he's looking forward to kickin a$$ with nu-GN'R... but maybe there's some hatchet burying going on here... maybe he's written a kick a$$ album, but he feels that without the old guys on board it's just never going to get the audience and credit it deserves. Maybe Slash and Duff want to make one last run at greatness... go to the levels that VR will never go to- no matter how good the band is. Maybe they need each other?

One thing... no way in he11 they take the stage with Adler on drums... as much as many GN'R purists would love to see that... Adler is a loose cannon and in need of some serious help. Actually, if this does go down and Adler is around to see it... I fear for his sanity and health. It will break his heart that he's not involved... but he CAN'T be.

nice post, very interesting and i totaly agree!

what the fuck is up with halfin tho? way not to start a war, way to not fuck with anyones ego....

he's credit is gone, now this, and that thing about him and slash in soho... fucking bs..

not really adding much to this convo, but just wanted to acknowledge a great post, even if i dont agree with all of it.

How do we know Izzy wouldn't do it?.....

To the best of our knowledge, Axl was last in touch with Izzy January 12th...

I think Axl and Izzy have been on mutual terms for several years now, it's just the media that recycles 10 year old grudges for the sake of selling magazines, and because Izzy doesn't want to be in another band with a singer, people construe him as still grieving from his and Axl's differences.

Make no mistake, if Guns' get back together, Izzy is most certainly gunna be there...

Adler may not be, but what the fuck...have Adler's Appetite open the show ;)

He's said numerous times that the big shows aren;t his thing, And he was in "the project" but when it started to turn into VR he took off. He's just not a fan of fame and bright lights kinda thing. Even when he played songs with VR live it's only been a couple tunes and he's gone again.

I mean for all we know he could be involved in this thing. It's just all speculation as usually AMM : ok:

I for one beleive this reunion talk is a crock of shit, I'm just saying IF it did happen, IMO,  it would be the GnR from the end of the UYI tour. (it would be really cool, but............ :no: )

The reunion comment isn't on Halfin's site anymore. I think he may have been acting a bit naughty with the GnR folk; probably to make a few tongues wag. No reunion will occur until the new guys have had their day in the sun. They are owed that by Axl.

Yeah, he "said" he wouldn't get involved in another big show..

As in he stated it in past tense.

Who really knows if Izzy would be down for a reunion now years after that information your using was first made public? I think if he knew for a certainty that all of the bandmember's egos would be in check and that the performance(s) wouldnt be to generate the most $$ or hype, I think Izzy could be convinced to squeeze into the yellow leather pants for old times sake... :hihi:

I think your right about the reunion talks having as much merit as a fart in the wind, but I rather analyze/debate that topic than what kind of deodorant Axl wears, or read a rejected Beverly Hills 90210 script turned into a Gn'R movie.. :-X

If it was the UYI, as much as that would mean to me, being the lineup I was old enough to be a fan of, I would rather see the AFD lineup for what would be my very last opportunity since that was the "definite" Guns N' Roses..


Best point that could have been made right there.

Axl maybe one crazy, and unpredictable guy at times, but if one thing is for certain, it's that a reunion doesnt have a snowball's chance in hell of happening until Axl drops the material his new band have busted there fuckin' asses on and they get their credit and deserved admiration from the legions of fans just waiting to be made...and already on this board just waiting to be fans again.

If Axl stabbed these guys in the back, hired musicians or not by not releasing this album, Ill be honest..Id wana kick his ass, because that would just be so unbelieably cruel.

Let's not even think the unthinkable though because were gunna see Axl's head on Robin's shoulder sooner than we will Slash's : ok:

Very disgusting.

 :hihi: Sorry, I have to just say first that it's hard for me to say these guys have busted their ass that much, you're probably right- I'm sure they've worked hard, y'know it just sounds funny given the few shows and zero output we've got

anyways, the real point I want to make...


I think its unlikely GNR are about to reunite, but... I think a very good point was made earlier in that, what if Axl has come to realise that in order to get his grand vision across, he needs the old guys? Axl has almost completed all these songs right? And the new guys have helped him get to this point in terms of sparking the creative zenith. Thanks guys, your ideas have been great, the songs are almost ready and you've helped Axl get from point A to point B. But, Axl may be aware, especially given how 2002 transpired, that in order to get his grand vision the attention it deserves, he needs his old allies. Pure and simple. He needs Slashs' guitar to set this material into the stratosphere.

A compromise could be reached in terms of working some of the supposed lost album into the set, the new songs the Project offered him and of course Chinese Democracy re-recorded (perhaps not everything, but lets get Duff to redo the bass parts and at the very least Slash to play lead, and god it would be great to hear some Izzy). Find a way, we've got a double album that can be called Guns N Roses right there.

This would be huge - there would be no more talk of "how many copies", "is it going to be a sucess" etc... It would be magic, it would be that great thing, that perfect  band that the great rock n' roll gods smiled upon when they created, it would be, put simply - Guns N' Roses  8)

I agree Jimmy.

Compromise is the key word. To play the old songs with the new band isn't enough to satisfy the old fans.

That's true,Whitesnakes is nothing compared to Guns N' Roses,then or now,I hate Whitesnake because they do nothing that's original. :peace:

This is just wishful thinking. Im surprised that everyone is convincing themselfs its "bound to happen now." VR is coming out with a new album in Julyish.. a tour is bound to follow.. Slash and Duff aren't "sad" or "bummed" or thinking about making "one last run at greatness"  (:hihi: that one made me laugh though)... VR is their thing. You honestly think a GN'R reunion would "take them to levels VR will never go"? If VR'S next album is kick ass it wont matter.. Slash and Duff are behind that band 100%.. dont elude yourselfs with reunion hopes.

Also.. ...  ::)

How many times must it be said..? Axl has talked to Izzy on the phone in post-original GNR times! Izzy calls about "once a year"... (Read the RS2000)... also.. while he never said it in a very postive light Axl said he thought Slash was great in the exact same interview.

I swear.. all Axl says is "I talked to Izzy recently" and "I love the guy [Slash]" and the world expects a reunion. What do you think Axls gonna say about Slash? "Fuck him!"?... I mean come on.. im sure the guy was in a good mood and being in a good mood said, "eh, i love the guy"...

A reunion just ain't happening. And thats reality.

.. but.. feel free to use your illusions.  :peace:

   -jack

I don't think that a reunion is on the horizon but if it happens, Izzy will be there. He would have joined the NY Dolls reunion for one show but rejected when the fixed more dates. So if it's only one show, they'll get Izzy!  :yes:

And you know that for sure... :hihi:

Im just basing this off the known facts.. not wishful thinking.

Not sure that everything is going that well in VR...

As much as I would love to see a reunion, I believe it's not gonna happen.  The fact of the matter is, Axl and Geffen have spent 13 million on CD.  Unless Axl releases it under his own name, NuGNR are gonna have to promote this album.

But, if CD comes out under the name Axl Rose, Then the reunion speculations will fly all over the place.  I would much rather see this scenerio as I would take the old band over the current one any day.

It would be less risky for Axl and Geffen to recoup the costs of the album touring with the old band (or at least with part of it) rather than with the new one.

Thats true.? Maybe Axl releases CD under his own name and just won't tour in support of it (kinda like the Beatles).? This could happen.? Here are some of my thoughts that could lead to a reunion:

1) Scott Weiland is going to be busy writing another solo album as well as writing a book.

2) Axl has been in contact with Izzy.

3) We pretty much know that all Axl has to do is call the old guys up in regards to a reunion.

4) From what we understand, the NuGNR group hasn't all been together since 02.

5) Axl knows the reprecussions (all the bullshit questions) of continuing under the name GNR.

6) The truckload of money involved with a reunion.

7) EDIT** Now it seems that Scott is launching a clothing line as well as co-star in a new upcoming film.

The Stones are able to tour for 40 years with Mick and Keith hating each other.? You can keep Axl and the others seperated and still have a good tour.?

if they got back together and slash recorded the material for CD, geffen would make their money back in a month.

and it would be one of the biggest and most talked about tours of the decade.

Could you imagine the wait for CD then? :hihi:  Slash would want his say on CD.  Theres no way in hell Slash would just do what Axl told him to do.  You would have a better chance of scrapping CD and just start a new album with the old guys.  Hell, I would go for that. : ok:  but I still would want CD.  Kinda like having my cake and eating it too.

If there was a reunion I think the other guys would re-negotiate a stronger share in the rights to the Guns 'n' Roses band name than they had after signing away the rights to Axl during the early 90's.

Plus being in a relatively strong negotiating position, they would probably insist that if Chinese Democracy ever see the light of day then it would have to be as an Axl solo album.

Personally I think we would have heard a lot more rumours in the run up to announcement.? We knew the Crue were attempting to reform 3 months before they held a press conference. Closer to GnR situation we knew every step of the evolution of the band that became Velvet Revolver during the two years before Contraband came out. Having said Scott W has got an awful lot planned this spring.

Maybe Step1 had happened and Halfin reported it...

Oh please, there isnt going to be a reunion anytime in the next decade at least so get over it  : ok:

Please read the first post on this page.

There's a big difference between "won't happen" and "you don't want it to happen"

Right now there is just as good a chance that they will reunite as there is of CD being released and the current lineup touring, so "Get over it"......

You make a fairly good point, although there is definitely some wild speculating going on. You guys have Scott going solo, Slash, Duff, and Matt ditching VR, and the AFD era GNR reuniting. All in the same year!  :rofl: The scenario you guys have running through your heads is of course possible(anything's possible), but I have to agree with Chineseblues. Its not gonna happen at the speed of light. With Axl, you got to take things one decade at a time. :hihi: I can easily imagine a one show reunion, but thats all that would happen. Plus, doing this reunion would throw the status of CD into a tailspin. I cant imagine the "hired guns" sitting around waiting for CD while Axl goes and sings Jungle with the old guys. It would be a total lack of respect and a slap in the face to Robin and Tommy, who have been waiting almost a decade for CD to get off the ground. Axl needs to release CD, then he can split amicably with the 'new' guys, and after that old GNR can do a reunion tour around the solar system if they feel like. But I would rather have CD then hear Jungle again.

it would take a while to put together, but to say "there isnt going to be a reunion anytime in the next decade at least so get over it" is insane.

Some people are just holding on too tight to the idea that NuGnr are a band that will matter. Axl has that senario hostage, and I don't seem to see him letting go of it.

I think he is questioiung the new band in his head, why take this long to release something unless you aren't confident. It just seems odd that Axl has gone from random snide remarks about the old members to random kind remarks. Plus it makes no sense for Ross Halfin to make up a story about the band reuniting, he gains nothing from it except angry email from a few thousand board members and an interview with Big Boss over at SP1AT.

Do I think it will happen in the next 6 months no, do I think Axl will tour with Slash and Duff before he ever gets on stage with Robin and Tommy....Yes

You got that right. If there is ever a time we actually need Merck, its now. This thing's gonna spiral out of control. Pretty soon some of these guys will have the original Hollywood Rose or L.A. Guns getting back together, or speculation that Slash decided after all to join Poison. :hihi: Somebody needs to make an official statement and either confirm or deny this.

It is rather odd that Merck hasn't shot this rumor down.  Especially a rumor that is so detrimental against NuGNR.

Yeah their silence is uncanny. Doesn't seem a good sign. :nervous:

:hihi:


That'll be the day. My interest in GNR or AXL would fall extremely low.
I'm not big on solo acts in general or on alumni meetings of uncles.

Yet, as much as I'd be disheartened I wouldn't go on at Axl to reunite with the new guys. That'd be disrespectful to whoever in the band. I'm not a thoughtless pest. I just wouldn't.  :no:

If it was to happen, I'd rather Robin Brain Richard Tommy Dizzy Chris and BH team up to make their Chinese Democracy. 

well.........    the point is: a reunion would be cool for one show and after that just a rehash of the old days.......

and do you guys seriously think axl rose records an album for 10 years ( i don`t believe it`s ten years, but it sounds better...........................) and then he just gives up and admits that he failed????  NO FUCKIN`WAY!!!

Now thats a sensible post among this wild speculation, and I basically agree with it. Its obvious by now that CD isnt gonna rule the universe, and hopes like that were insane to begin with. Even Axl realizes this. His recent comments were much more down to earth, and he doesnt seem to be trying to make the best record ever. I also agree with you about Slash taking the stage with Axl before Tommy or Robin ever does. I have always thought there wouldnt be a tour following CD. He'll release the album, maybe do a few interviews to promote it, and thats it. With no one in GNR besides Axl knowing what's going on for years, its becoming obvious that not only are they out of the loop, but probably wont be included in any promotion for the record. They were basically musicians for hire, and thats about it. But the least Axl can do for those guys is release the album and let those guys advance their careers off of the possibly brilliant work they contributed to CD.

Is there a specific cause for this festival?  I mean, like Rock in Rio deals with abused children, right?

So does anyone know if this download festival thing is also supporting a cause? 

That is maybe the only reason why I could see a reunion then.

Something else thats strange is all the forum "insiders" haven't said one word about anything in awhile.

i actually don`t think that anything is strange at the moment..... it justs gets boring again after the little tidbit of news we got.............      there will be no reunion!!   axl actually planned to tour at least two years straight in and after '02 but he didn`t make it for some reason.   and i don`t think he`ll hide again if CD`s ready. He`s not out in public, because he doesn`t want to deal with all the questions and bullshit at the moment i assume.....and he doesn`t tell anything because there isn`t much to tell.... he`s watching films, reading books and completing a record.... that`s it...    there`s nothing to talk about so people are starting to read into axl`s last comments a little to much....   mark my words, there will be no reunion.    at least not in the next 10 years. and if actually one happens, it will be a one show event....      but well......   i might be proven wrong....but good luck with that :hihi:

I once said I would never get back with my old girlfriend.  Well guess what, I ran into her at a bar and took her home.  Now it doesn't seem like such a crazy idea.  Its been a couple years and all of a sudden....Bam, something changes.  I guess my point is, never say never.  Yes, there will be a reunion.  I don't give a shit what insiders say.

Yeah actually it might ease the reunionists' whines and prove the new band right. :P


IMO whether there's no truth to his story or not, He's taking the piss out of us.(http://www.motley.com/bbs/images/graemlins/domina.gif)
Maybe it's his payback for the flood of gunners mails.
Same to a Good musician, a Good photographer doesn't mean a man of good character or mature behavior. They say Who keeps company with the wolf will learn to cry wolf, you know.

I personally wouldn't know of his name or pay a visit to his site if were not for this board.

Or just further prove that the new line up is no more a band than the UK cover band Steven Adler picked to finish his tour. If a reunion happens it will turn NuGnr into a drawnout version of Aerosmith without Joe Perry.

He took out the bit about the oringal band to be playing.

He removed all mention of that show. I'm sure he got a few emails from here, just didn't want to give us the satisfaction of calling us a bunch of Wankers in his Diary.

Thats not surprising. He knew the comments were gonna start whats going on right now, so he took it out. What's making me think it could be legit is the total silence from the "insiders" Dave, you know as well as anyone else, that whenever a reunion or something else not likely to ever happen gets mentioned, the "insiders" show their faces and always shoot down stupid rumours that will never happen. Its easy for them to do, and it bolsters their credibility to alot of the GNR community. They haven't said one fucking word since before that Dizzy interview. I cant believe I'm gonna say this, but maybe Madagascar88 wasn't bullshitting, and this is that huge top secret info he was referring to. He said we'd hear something in about 2 weeks. We've approached that time.

About Dizzy's news:

I know there are plans for the "current members" starting up soon, but is anyone booked for anything tonight for example??

This is out of left field, but what would the chances of a suprise show in Vegas on Axl's birthday, no pub, just a few flyers "The Frog's live at the Joint feturing special Guests" some shit like that.

This is from the velvet rope.


"To lend a little creedence to the rumor, CAA told me a few weeks ago that Velvet Revolver was unable for a U.S. summer show due to a "potential Guns 'N Roses reunion".

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=25007.0


for shits and giggles, read the last comment by Axl himself :peace:

This is getting insane. Its almost not even believable. If this has been considered at some point, and Axl is actually on board with this, do you think he scrapped CD? I know he made mentions of music this year, but I cant picture a reunion and CD taking place in the same year.  Would he use the global buzz of a reunion to promote CD?

Unless CD just comes out as solo axl rose

When I made my deal with Devil for the scrapping of NuGnR and the Reformation of Guns N' Roses, I never really signed anything, do you think I will need to hold up my end of the bargain??

I can't stop thinking about three things.... Axl's musical direction is reportedly as close to straight-ahead rock (with a heavy dose of Queen... but that's always been Axl's style) as it has been in years... it's undeniable that the return of Axl Rose, Slash, Duff McKagan and Izzy Stradlin' on the same stage would be an INTERNATIONAL PHENOMMENON... and Tommy Stinson's quote a year or so back that he wouldn't fault Axl if he ever decided to get back together with the original line-up (I think the nu-GN'R members have always known that the "risk" was there.... so I don't think they would be as "blind-sided" by this if it were to go down as many of us are claiming... just as long as they get their $$$ and any royalties/credits they've earned... I can see them walking away "ok").

One counter-argument... if a reunion was imminent, one would have expected Dizzy to be a little more "diplomatic" when discussing which version of GN'R was better live in the Cornell interview...

If they do get back together I'll probably be evicted for trying to get to that show by using my rent money to get there. ;D

If that happens, the former gunners section of this forum just got alot bigger.

Do you actually think thats gonna happen? I certainly dont.

Well axl has tons of old songs the orginal band wouldnt want to play. But that is if these rumors are even true which I dont think they are.

The guy admitted parts of the interview were fabricated. Maybe that was one of the parts.

It's a complicated album and he's trying to do something different...


Or under a new band name....Still unlikely on both fronts.


Yeah but with or without perry it's all same to a non Aerosmith fanatic, unless the replacement guy brings in something totally fresh to the band. Can't you stop calling it "nu"?

GnR= Axl, Slash, Duff, and whom ever they feel fit's, with out that core it's not GnR, so I have to call it something.

To YOU maybe, but don't try and speak for everyone. Gnr is/was and always will be Axl to me, with Izzy at a distant second. They were the ones who wrote the vast majority of the songs.

I will lose alot of respect for Axl if he screws Tommy over. He has been quite loyal and supportive of this bullshit. Maybe it will be just a one time thing. It would be neat to see the old band play a set of old classics then have the new band come out and play Chinese Democracy. One can dream. :D

The reason why manangement has said NOTHING to this is because they know it's a ridiculous assumption so why bother to even make a statement about it.

Well he wont be screwing Tommy over since people keep saying that Tommy might be quitting guns for SA.

Maybe management doesn't know! :rofl:

She asked why "I" can't stop calling them Nu. Seemed like a fairly simple question, with a simple answer..... but thanks for not understanding the idea that I can have an opinion.

Amen to madagas.
Against the rumours, he hasn't quit.

To me GNR is always the band which members share Axl's goals.

Anyone, including myself, who experienced firsthand what Guns N Roses were all about, will always refer to this CD era as 'new' GNR.

Would be one of the greatest burts back onto the mainsream if they got themselves ( axl, duff and slash ) back on good terms and back on the road!.............and maybe back with new material? :D

But with axl you never know whats gonna happen..............today he will be all for it..................tomorrow he could deny everything and claim it was the management who did it without his knowledge. :-\

Time will tell.............all we can do is wait. ?:peace:

So if the only people he can get aboard the "Axl Train" are Gunnar Nelson and the various KISS replacment players, but they kiss his ass and will wait till the end of time to finish an album, that would be Guns N' Roses to you??

Interesting.......

Since when Sharing the goals with someone implys kissing someone's ass?  ::)



That's totally understandable. But to put it as "Nu" is quite different, don't you think? I sense some kind of ridicule and hostility in the word.

Koplik, one of the biggest promoters in CT, has reported that he has been contacted about VR shows this summer but with no firm dates yet.

Given that came directly from the horse's mouth (Jim Koplik).....I tend to believe him more than a poster at the velvel rope.

Wow, Axl and other people related to GNR must be laughing their ass off while reading this thread. Don't you guys think it's a little too much to seriously discuss this matter over what somebody who doesn't even speak to Axl anymore has put on his website? And took it off the next day?

I can understand everybody wants this reunion to happen including me but I ain't getting my hopes up just over this "comment".

oh, and I will eat my shoes if this turns out to be true and Ross Halfin actually knew it.

Maybe Ass kissing was to strong a phrase, but you get my point. If you take every fill-in player from KISS' career and throw them in GnR with Axl..... just because they "Share Axl's Goal's" (I would like to know what those are) you would call that Guns N' Roses??

Maybe it's because I was a fan of the old band longer that the new band has existed so it is hard for me to part with the idea of "Guns N' Roses". But how can someone just blindly attach themselves to Axl and any 4 musicians "That share his goals" and call that Guns N' Roses with out an identifier that this isn't the band that created that name and it's place in Rock and Roll History.

-------------------------------------------------------

But back to the original subject here...... Do you think that Velvet Rope is just taking the line from Ross Halfin's Diary and making a story around it?

this is getting insane now.....     don`t you guys understand now why axl doesn`t really want to speak to the media???
he said he loves slash, but.....and that he spoke to izzy the other day.  some articles on the internet interpreted that as a hint of a reunion and now rumours are floating around................BULLSHIT!!!

but you`ll see it at the end of the day.....   

NEWGNR RULES!! :hihi:

Axl wouldn't be the only participating member of a reunion. Ross does have a working relationship with Slash and VR. Also the last time he posted Axl info, he then pulled it off with a note complaining about "us" bothering him. This time it just dispapeared, he seems like the type of guy who would have thrown a jab in there. Maybe he was aked nicely be an interested partner (Slash??) to remove the bit of info.

But whenever Pilferk comes in with info that begins to prove or disprove a rumor, I tend to believe the info he has..... so who knows.....

Believeing what Ross says is like believing what slash when he said cd would be out in march. The fact is Ross posted several things about guns in the past which have all turned out to be utter crap. But of course people still believes him  :hihi:

What I'm saying is he does have a link to Slash and VR (who would be affected if there was a reunioin). It is just ignorant to think that because Ross doesn't have a relationship with Axl, that he has to be wrong "If Axl didn't say it, then it isn't true."

Am I saying it's true, No. Do I hope it is, Yes.

But this "World Revolves around Axl" vibe has to go away. Ross Halfin, probably the most successfull Rock Photog of all time, isn't going to further his career by making up news about Axl. I do think that Ross is posting info that he hears, is it all true?? no. Is Ross making it up to fuck with HTGTH? No.

No one said hes making it up to fuck with HTGTH. But he is posting bullshit on his website for some reason. And the fact still remains that everything he has posted in regards to gnr "news" so far has turned out to be 100% false. So I honestly don't know why people even bother to believe him when he has proven himself to not know anything in regards to gnr in the past.

This is so true.  Axl says something nice towards Slash and two weeks later, there are rumors all over the place about a GNR reunion.  Just STOP it!  :hihi:

It would be interesting to have the point of view of GNR and VR record company. I guess they will have their say...

I would.  Most likely I would not be a fan of the band with ex kiss guys anymore but still I would call it GNR all the same.
If a band calls itself whatever, who am I to deny it? I'm not in possession of the name nor in the possession of the band. I can always move on from the band when find the music unattractive.


I basically can never hate the people like you who is attached to the old band too much to accept the new and yet try to talk to the likes of me genuinely without intruding your opinion. I guess you at heart want to understand the band and us.

So please listen, mate.

The point is that I'd have supported GNR in 1985 like I'm doing now for the love of music if I had been around. Knowing it wouldn't be lasting forever. And sorry I would have forgot about the band with seeing the spaghetti.  Still the sentiment at the time would have been real and eternal.   
The music they made remains the same after the band is gone, even after all the real timers are gone....
I wouldn't have expected the very band to fascinate me again almost 2 decades later with the brand new chemistry. I mean who'd have imagined it could happen twice to a band and a fan of the band?


Hmmm, VR seems to be a site full of the industry has-beens and underlings. I think All they know is no more than  rumour floating on the outskirts of the business or on the net.  As far as I know people in the music business tend to love bsing.

Nothing to do but wait and see... BUT this idea that there's some kind of COLD WAR between the two camps (Axl and S,D,I) and that they would NEVER ever acknowledge the other if they came upon the other dying in the street is no longer valid in my mind... and that's the assumption I had been operating under, and most Axl fans I know too, since Slash left in 1996.

If THEY (Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy) were to get back together they would be FVCKING HUGE... that wasn't necessarily the case back in the late 90's. That dynamic has CHANGED. They would be U2 huge.

I honestly feel that in Axl's PERFECT world- he's on stage with Slash, Duff, Izzy, etc. performing some sort of collaborative version of the CD songs. He gets his music out there AND he's guaranteed a world-wide "stop the presses" reaction to his new music. I like Finck, Stinson, etc.- but they're not going to generate that type of instant buzz for Axl- it will take time and lots of work. Plus, I think BH's departure was a devastating blow to new GN'R's "stage presence" and "marketability". Hitting the stage with five comparatively vanilla personalities is NOT the same as getting out there with your old crew or with at least one "crowd grabber" like BH. Just my two cents...

I don't believe all these supposed rumors at all.

In fact I happened to be listening to KLOS this morning in LA and slash was being interviewed because he is playing this les paul tribute concert here soon and was asked by someone about a reunion and he said it is no closer than before and nothing was in the works for a reunion.
i'm sure a lot of other people heard this interview also...

Great point. Not many people here are willing to admit that.

By the way, a GNR reunion would be bigger than U2. : ok:

Has anyone considered the possibility that Slash might have asked Ross to post this on his diary, just to see what reactions it would stir?

Maybe he did that to see the vibes of the fanbase, especially after Axl's latest comments about talking to Izzy and "loving" Slash "but"...

I honestly don't see a reunion anytime soon. I believe that it will happen someday, the money is just too much...

But don't you think this would seriousely piss of Axl, again?

Why wouldn't he just put something up on Snakepit.org (or whatever) saying he would "be open to a reunion" instead?

exactly, that way he would have stated his own position, and he wouldn't have had to start a rumor based on a lie that surely is pissing people off.

and if anyone in the gn'r camp wanted to use the garbage can to feel the waters for a reunion they should have just checked out the dead horse section on this very site... :hihi:

1st of all, some of you guy's, things are not always black and white.? And, it seems many of you seem to only listen to or post things that you personally hold to be true, and then blast away at anyone who may threaten your personal opinion.? Well, this is not Congress, and the messenger was not lying.?

Look at Halfin's statement that set off a minor firestorm last year.? He only repeated, what I am sure Merck told him:? the album is done or virtually done.? Plain and simple.? I think there have been, in many peoples opinions (Roy Thomas Baker, Chris Vrenna, Moby, Doug Goldstein, Youth, etc), several completed versions of this album ready to go, throughout the past ten years.? Halfin is not a liar, and has more creditibility and insight than this whole board combined.? The guy is not full of crap.? Look , hypothetically speaking, for all we know, there COULD have been ten times during the past ten years that the reunion was on, only to blow up in smoke due to an ego driven tug-of-war between Slash and Axl.? I doubt that is true, but I do think this show's my reasoning--that Halfin is not lying and most likely repeating information that he has gleaned from some late night drinking escapade with a rock star or manager he works with.? This type of scenario could happen again--the reunion could be on, and blow up in smoke.? This is GNR, of course.? Halfin reported what he said (album being done), and then this reunion bit, and neither could come to fruition, but he is not lying.? The guy probably has little clue, or did have little clue about this board, and has no motive to provoke some type of fight with this community (really insane logic some have displayed in this thread).

I will say this:? there is no doubt that something is up as of right now.? This is always how stuff leaks.? Someone forgets they should not mention somehting, and it hits.? Or, Merck asked Halfin to slip it out and see what happens.? Whatever the cause, there is smoke with this fire.? Halfin would not make comments like this, or lie on purpose.? There is no motive for a reputable man who depends on his reputation with managers, labels, and musicians for a living to make this up.? Moreover, he is friends with Merck, Kalodner, and all of the old band members.? Something is up as of now, and it could be gone to hell in a second with none of us knowing.

Also, if Izzy and Axl have composed songs (we know they have) during the past twelve years, and Izzy-Duff-Slash have ten songs composed for GNR (Slash and Duff said they were written in 2003), and there were about ten songs ready to go in 1995; then a raw Appetite like two week recording from these pro's, could be just the recipe for massive Appetite like success--stripped down and groovin!!? It is quite possible that they have secretly recorded an album, and it is possible that they have not talked to each other in ten years.? The thing is this:? until they want us to know (the GNR members), they will all say they have not talked and won't shed any light onto what is going on.? The best hype is mystery and speculation, which spreads through the web like wildfire.? Why blow that?? I would imagine, if the reunion is on, we won't officially know until they hit the stage at RIR IV together.? Who the drummer is, god only knows (I would take Ringo's son, who recently played with the Who).? Again, though, it is just as possible that nothing is happening.?

One thing is for sure, there is more going on with GNR than there has been since 2002!

newsman, that was a good post. I definitely agree with your 'there's smoke with this fire' comment. Something fishy is going on, thats for sure. Halfin isnt lying. Those that say he's a liar need to back that statement up with proof. I'm not sure about it being a full blown reunion, but something strange is going on and with the current members of GNR so far from the loop they cant even see it, I highly doubt its CD. If Axl has no interest in a reunion, and is moving forward with CD, he needs to make some sort of a statement.

I Sorum touring with the Cult?  I heard he was.  Also, I have heard rumblings of a STP reunion.  I don't know, but one good thing with all the new allignments is this:  it seems everyone has something to fall back upon if the new gig does not work out. 

good post, sounds like you believe in a reunion.

what do you dink would happen to CD if the band reunites? that is what i don't get, will all that talk and all that work and recordings, and all the contracts with the new gunners just go down the drain? it doesn't make sence...

So is Halfin a liar, a leaker, or something in between? I don't know-but I just can't believe that after all the acrimony these guys have had for the last decade plus that they would suddenly agree to it:

-VR is coming off a succesful freshman run and is/was supposedly writing a concept record due in the summer-Axl is apparently working on his 32 tracks---to me, to any possible reunion would mean a) an astronomical shitload of money was dumped in front of these guys b) things got derailed in both respective camps (weiland problems, tommy leaving, things along those lines).

i wont buy it-yet.

I highly doubt Matt is doing anything with The Cult. It would have been mentioned here if he was. Not too sure about an STP reunion either. I think theyre doing one show, but thats about it. The other STP guys are working on their own project right now. Seems like an "insider" would have killed this already. Its always been easy for them to knock down reunion talks in the past, so why is it different this time?

The Cult has not decided on the drummer for their upcoming tour yet; but they must have some idea, as the tour starts March 1st.?

I agree, with someone earlier, who said that a reunion is unlikely right now, as it would be very tough for Axl to throw away the past six years of work with the new guy's--although he may release it and not tour with them.  On the other hand, I think that this is VR's last album, if they complete it.  I don't see Weiland mixing well in the long run with Slash.  It's kind of an East side to the West side thing.  Whereas Slash is the hardened bloke from the tracks, Weiland is the artsy-flake with tracks, on his arms ie. 

Whatever the case, something is definitely in the air.  Not only is Axl out and about garnering attention, but someone floated word to Halfin that either a reunion was imminent to either leak this to begin the hype, or to test the waters.  Interesting indeed. 

Apparently Axl was at the Palms Saturday night?  Glad to see he's replaced blow and jack daniels with red bull and vodka :beer:

I agree. Maybe something's going on, but there will be no reunion in 2006. But if CD ain't come out this year and VR can't handle Scott, 2007 can be the year of Guns N' Roses.  : ok:














I mean the classic GN'R with Axl, Slash, Duff and Izzy. I don't mind who the drummer is if he fits the band.

Actually, I can see in my crystal ball a reunion coming up in 2007.


(Not a New Gnr reunion, a real Guns N'Roses reunion)

This is one freaky thread.lol, imho, I think many are takin BS, that has been proving to be the case bfore from a site, and extrapolating it to zzenith, and at the end of the day, will wind up being jsut that BS.........now with that said, I personally dont think a reunion, WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY down the line is not realsitic. BUT I do believe that what axl has created and built with the mebers that now are GNR, will have thier day, and the fruits of the labors realised. And I think there isa no damn need for mamagement to even commment on stuff that is so far from the truth, but Ill have a chance to talk to richard weds night, Ill talk to him like I always have just a regualr guy. See whats up.

It would be interesting to hear what he says, but why do you think he would know? Not one 'new' member of GNR can even name one song that will be on CD or even say what kind of music it is, so why would he know about Axl communicating with former members?

But isn't it also a bit weird that Richard said in December he would be heading to LA for recording the last bits of CD and now we all are talking about a reunion......Axl must have made up his mind pretty quickly then......I don't believe it....

Everyone's favorite excuse can be used for that: Plans change. Obviously there isn't a big chance of this reunion happening, but I just dont understand why the rumour hasn't been killed yet. If Merck can make a comment about Sp1at, why cant he make a comment about this? Why hasn't an attention seeking insider stepped up to the plate and killed this? This is a perfect opportunity for them, so why aren't they taking advantage?

The current gng going on tour is bigger then us and i hate u2

Because maybe they haven't heard about it yet? Or maybe they think it's so ridiculous they don't even bother? Did anyone sent an email to Merck or whoever they always contact about these kinda things?

Mysteron? What's going on? Shed some light on this matter.....

Its a good point that there has been no comment from management but I think if any GN'R is gunna play it, it will be the new line up.


 :peace:

The new line-up looks like this :  (http://www.lafilleduperenoel.net/smilies/cat/divers/divers-lfdpn-118.gif)



 :peace:

Like Axl said "The new guys can play the fuck outta the old songs"


 :peace:

Thats funny. :hihi: In no way,shape, or form does new GNR get bigger than U2. U2 is basically the biggest rock band in the world, and that isn't changing in the near future. I think if Axl embraced the limelight and got much more active, he could have a Bono type career offstage. If you think Axl and this cast of characters will overtake a band that has been established for over 20 years, you are sadly mistaken.

And? Haven't they pissed off Axl in the past? Dressing up like New GN'R for Helloween? Hellooooooooo?




Cause that would be a statement in the spirit of "I lose, you win, I want a reunion...".

But now, Ross did Slash a favor and noone gets hurt, cause trust me, Ross didn't get hurt for some text he erased from his diary a few hours later...

i thought you were the only real realist on this board..... where`s your realism now?  and 3 weeks ago you were positive about CD......      a reunion is possible with slash, duff, matt, traci guns, steven adler, gibly if he?s bored, but no way in hell axl is agreeing to anything like that in the near future......   he`d admit that he failed to record a record without slash and the other guys.......

Well said.




And we've heard the new band play the old songs, they don' play the fuck out of them they just fuck them

 :peace:

The old band isn't bigger than U2 either... ::) ::)  :rant: Never was....never will be.

Well, there's a couple others. :hihi: But I dont see your point. What was unrealistic about my post that you quoted?

U2 is a dirty pop band. Guns N`Roses play Rock n Roll! GNR was the BEST in the early 90`s.  U2 never was anything like GNR! They only play simple poprock music which anybody who dont care about music can be able to like. And there is alot of them. Sad But true..

What is true, is that Guns N Roses IS, and will also be (with the new band) a much better rock n roll band, and in the rock n roll/metal socciaty they will always be bigger then U2.

"i sold my soul to make a record, and you bought one"

If you really believe that, then your either one of these new fans that didn't really experience the GNR craze and thinks they know it all, or you just hate the old band. The only thing that rivals GNR 87-91 is Beatlemania.

Nice post. U2 is a nice band but one that is mainly focused on selling records and "making a better world". GNR is a true Rock n Roll band who doesn"t do any compromises in making and selling their music. That's something I appreciate alot.

James, get a fucking clue-seriously. I'm 39 years old and went to 7 UYI shows. Did you go to that many? I love both the old band and the new. Obviously, you were on a little too much meth back in the day and just missed Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby/Zoo Tv tour (87 to 92). U2 actually played stadiums worldwide. The only time Guns played stadiums in the Us was with Metallica-another huge group. During that time, U2 was selling out stadiums in the Us by themselves. They did not need a crutch or huge supporting act. It is real simple. U2 has more album sales and more concert tickets sold than Gnr-wwwaaaayyy more. NyTUNZ, if the Unforgettable Fire, Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby are "pop" albums, then I will gladly call myself a "pop" fan. But, being a Tool fan and Gnr fan and a massive Bob Dylan fan, you should know me better than that. :yes:

From 91-93 they were the biggest band on the planet. At that time they were more popular than U2.

No they weren't-please refer to above post.

I absolutly respect your view on U2. I know for a fact that you are one of the people on the htgth that knows good music, from my point of view.
But i dont agree with you on the U2 part. I dont think U2 ever will get as big as GNR was, and i dont think they will get that much cred in the rock/metal socciaty.
I dont have anything againt U2, but i dont think that they make good music. Maybe for the easy public, but not "listeners" and beeing a Tool fan, i guess u know
what i mean. I dont know how many years, months, weeks or days, it will be until the next BIG BAND will take over the world, but what i do know is, it has have never happend in the Size of GNR. Also, remember that GNR, dident last in the original setup more then some years.. U2 have been around.. hum.. 25? So, they have had alot more time to release cd`s and tour.. ?Anyway, GNR is not music for everyones ear. Tool is not music for everyones ear. But i guess U2 can make music to the same genere as the poptop. And that says why they sells...

When you start resorting to cheapshots like that, then your posts are irrelevant to me.

Search the RIAA cert's
Joshua Tree sold 10 million albums (the best selling u2 album)
Achung Baby has sold 8 million albums
Rattle and Hum 5 million
Zooropa didn't even go platinum


Appetite sold 15 million.
UYI 1&2 have sold a combined 14 million
Lies has sold 5 million

All of those albums are from that time period......... Who was the more popular band??

I'm talking worlwide album sales and worlwide concert ticket sales during that timeframe (87 - 93)-not album sales from 93 on and career totals-even though U2 HAS MORE ALBUM SALES IN THE US than Gnr-check riaa again-bestsellers (50.5 million to 36.5 million). Concert ticket sales are every bit as important as album sales. Whatever generates revenue. Gnr fans simply exaggerate the truth-fanboy mentality. Guns was big-no doubt-clearly top two, right there with U2. Just not as dominating as we like to think they were.? :peace:

Im sure some of you will get a good kick out of this http://forum.readingfestivalonline.co.uk/showthread.php?t=15451 Especially the part where "axl rose child aka arc" is going around saying slash is back   :rofl:

I'm with James on this one. There is no doubt that they were close but GnR was the single biggest act in the world in 91-93 bar none IMO. You can see (from the quotes below) that UYI tour had approx 7mill fans attend while zoo tv had only 4mill fans although GnR played about 35 more shows. (but 3mill people over 35 shows is like 85,715 people per show which is highly unlikely) Metallica wasn't a crutch, it was a coheadlined tour. people went to see both bands not just one or the other. (and not like i wanna drag Metallica into this but GnR helped them complete their turn to the sell-out side :hihi: )

U2's last good album was Actung baby IMHO. And U2 was/is a different musicical genre than GnR.

Also U2's first album was in like 1980 and already had 5 albums by the time AFD came out. and have released 4 since UYI's. (not including 2 gh's) Duh they obviously have more total record sales and concert sales. (we're not talking money grubbing U2 of today we're talking U2 in 91-92 vs GnR 91-92.)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_Your_Illusion_Tour


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoo_TV_Tour

Highest grossing means most money made, cuz they prolly raped the fans on ticket prices, cuz the tour cost so much to run. anybody know the cost of a ticket for the UYI's tour as opposed to a ticket for Zoo TV Tour? just curious

I am only listing the albums from that period, and of course U2 has greater album Sales over all, They have put out more albums not to mention atleast 3 greatest hits and 3 or 4 live albums (guns has 1 of each).

But from that periods albums sales, GnR blows U2 away. If I could somehow find a away to quantify concert sales from the start of 91 thru 93 I think you would find that GnR would be on top there as well. (Edit- Nice find Neemo) Any one have ticket scans from the Zoo tour, we can get the GnR prices from gnrontour.com

Using anyother date range is stupid thats like currently trying to compare ticket sales between the Rolling Stones and the Darkness (they are at different points in their careers and played in much smaller venues due to it), but 91-93 would be GnR and U2 in their prime (unless you count u2's current top 40 resurgence (beautiful day, vertigo........))

So that is the top secret info they held over our heads and refused to tell, then they go to some forum we never even heard of and tell it? Thats pathetic. In the tiny chance that its true, I assume Dizzy has been fired for calling Slash a drug addict.

BTW

GnR 7,000,000 fans over 192 shows is 36,458 fans per show

U2 4,000,000 fans over 157 shows is 25,478 fans per show

 :P

I understand you can argue either side of the coin. I'm just taking the piss with U2. Gnr was on that level but comparing Gnr to Beatlemania is ridiculous. For christ's sakes, I am not even talking about how big Metallica was in 92-93 or Nirvana. You guys just act like Gnr was the only big rock band on the planet during that time and that is silly.

nah just the biggest  ;D

and what about the Joshua Tree tour from 87-88??-quote me some really credible stats on that.

Please stop the GN'R vs U2 discussion. It's pretty pointless in a thread that has nothing to do with U2.





/jarmo

Last time Jarmo ;)



111 shows. 3 legs. and prolly not all that impressive attendance cuz of arena shows

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Tree_Tour

They knew no one would believe them here so they went to a forum where they would be believed and therefore get attention. Pathetic isnt it?Not only is it pathetic, it just proves they don't know shit.

It is pointless to look at 87-88 and compare GnR and U2. They were at different stages in their careers, U2 was touring on their 6th album. Guns N Roses were touring on their freshman album, in support of other bands like Aerosmith (do I get to count tickets from the Pump tour??)

Edit: sorry Jarmo, just saw the warning after I posted...

If you are referring to ARC then don't believe a word he says. I knew of him on mygnrforum, he knows jackshit  :beer:

this is what was said in that link:

Those guys called Madagascar88 and Axl Rose Child told me that Slash is back in GN'R !

Lol, so this was the "news" Madagascar88 was saying was top secret?

surrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ::)

Did they? Really? :confused:

I totally agree.

I think you're right about U2 having been bigger in a sense. Save that you never know the future. 
Or Avril is bigger than U2 because she sells more at the moment.
I hear once Bono was even voted for the sexist man in the world by the play girl magazine readers.
U2 is a damn stable band with stable worldwide popularity. I'm not even a fan of bono's singing but I'm a realist.

Not that the bigger the better.
W, Axl Rose is not after fame, money or popularity is he?

That's what Madagascar88 said about Dizzy's "secret" so I dont think that has anything to do with ARC's comment (M88 posted that on Jan 24 and a week later is Jan 31) So what event was it and what was the big deal about it?

you forget about the fact that gnr had 6 active years to achieve those sales and U2 25.................    in total u2 is bigger, but considering gnr existed only 6 years ( to the public) it`s safe to say they are in that aspect...


and well......  yeah   slash is back!! cool!!! :-\

Maybe Dizzy got to be in the same room while Axl and Slash bonded again. :hihi:

Warose his argument was not about what band was better.

qppbebe: yeah i know that.......      i was just referring to that particular timeframe (87-93).  and i think gnr were bigger then. gnr sold 36.5 million records in america and had 6 popular years. u2 sold 50 million in 25 years of activity. i think this discussion wasn`t about which band is bigger in general.....



 :hihi: : ok:

Why are people still bringing up u2 again in this topic ?::)

Is Korn also playing this festival?

If they are, maybe that is why Axl went to their tour party.

They are. I doubt that it's the reason.


My post was not really about U2 .

I'm still very surprised by the lack of an official response to this rumor. There tends to be a pretty quick response to this kind of "community" uproar from at least a managment insider (Mysteron) or a direct release from Merck or his assistant.

I also don't see it as easy to write off the souce as others here do. Ross has a working relationship with Merck as well as VR. Also no one seems to have questioned what the feature he has to do copy for is about. He could be doing the photo's and captions for a feature running in a major publication regarding this reunion. I'm surprised more hasn't been made of that.

Was there ever any metion about the photographer doing the pics for the (supposed) Rolling stone cover featuring Axl and Zack (Formerly of Rage)?

Good post. Yeah you can argue 'management don't need to squash every little rumour' but if it puts a stop to 12 page threads then its a good thing! Also, given the other media outlets spreading this rumour (can't remember where) I thought they'd have said something.

Ross did refer to the Classic Rock cover - maybe there is something in there? I haven't received mine this month yet.

I doubt Ross would work for the new GNR band.

Finally, the point about the Axl not needing 'Money, Fame or Fortune'? If there is a re-union imo it kinda makes a mockery of this. Maybe not if he releases Chinese Democracy first, but I want to see him try to make a go of it alone (so to speak)

No. maybe it's simply because that's not supposed.  ;)

This thread is turning into the "Axl and Izzy to play Atlanta Bar Hoax" thread.

Management already denied it, yet people still think something is happening. :no:

Tank, this reunion thing has not been shot down yet......that is the main thing people are concerned with. Maybe the Edge has joined the band now?? :hihi: It's as probable as Slash! :hihi: Just joking Jarmo....and Coma/Neemo!

no management hasn't denied it, that's why it's a bit intriguing. That Mysteron quote, posted by ppbebe, was concerning Zack DeLaRocha and Axl Rose being on the cover of Rolling Stone Magazine

@ Madagas :rofl: :rofl:

LOL....... (does the edge know how to solo??) j/k

As far as dolphin and ppbebe's posts about managment shooting down the rumor:

I know managment shot down the rumor that GnR would be playing the Download Festival. I'm not as concerned about anyone being at that concert, as I am the possible news of a Guns N' Roses reunion. It seems odd that they haven't made a single comment regarding a reunion, which would more than likely spell the end of the new lineup as we know it. Seems kind of important.......

YeahMysterons comment was about the Rolling stone cover featuring Axl and Zack.
But Merck has already denied the reunion rumour in the M88 thread...Oh wait, was it originally from the sp1at?
BTW I love the edge's guitar. Oh shut up, tank! :-X

Does Robin Finck know how to solo?! *drops down below his desk as Tank fires a bazooka at him* Life doesn't revolve around guitar solos-Just kidding-well maybe. I don't think management has shot down Download either. :-\

Oops!! I missed that one :-\


Lets not dig up that bag of bones again :rofl: :rofl:

Have a look.  Yeah he hasn't killed the dockland romour yet.

Well, wouldn't that comment above hold true to any GNR reunion formations at any upcoming festivals?

I read all that to say that a GNR reunion ain't happening ANYWHERE.

I guess so. At least it can't be Axl's idea.

Seemingly the denial is real and not their favourite mere speculation.

Maybe, but that blanket statement was made before an actual reputable source ran with it (and I don't think Ross Halfin got his "scoop" from a Rolling Stone blurb or internet message board rumblings). We are talking about one of the most successfull Rock Photographers of all time, He's not going to risk burning bridges by spreading info that doesn't come from reliable sources.

What ppbebe said. Again i don't think it's gonna happen anyway.

i wonder why merck is talking to sp1at, after calling them a source of rubbish some weeks ago.......

I do believe Merck squashed the reformation of original GNR rumor before he ripped sp1at a new asshole.

whoever said that pulled it out of his ass.
I have never been to that forum as I'm sure is true for ARC also.  The 'event' I spoke of has nothing to do with Slash or the original Guns N' Roses.  Dizzy stated in his email response back to me that he'd rather certain news not appear on the web and therefore I'll respect his request.

don't worry - this event is nothing groundbreaking... it's simply something that might indicate Chinese Democracy's release is coming up.


Btw, chineseblues- you must be one of the most unintelligent persons I've ever communicated with.

Madgascarr88..click on that link and clearly you see ARC posting?

well- if it is him- he's being sarcastic in that response which is fairly clear.

So it hasn't happened yet?

no... it already took place - I'd say over a week ago now.  Hopefully it led to something positive.

So "it" already went down but you can't tell us what "it" was? :-\

I count on you m88.
So, it it were turning out positive, we may have exciting weeks infornt?

well... weeks is pushing it, exciting news within the next few months though I certainly hope so!

"It" was a band meeting wasn't it?

were any other members of gnr involved in that event?

That's what I've thought from the beginning. Hopefully, if that was the case, something fruitful came from it (photo session, final listen of CD, tour planning, etc.)

Ya Ross must have taken pictures of the newly formed "Original" Guns N' Roses, then they began hammering out tour dates.

Sorry I couldn't resist...............

I just hope our wait isn't too long.  :drool:

naah, it is just 4 years since the last tour  :drool:

For those of you who still think GN'R are performing at Download, there's gonna be some news on Thursday from the organizers:


DOWNLOAD FESTIVAL 2006 - NEWS COMING SOON!
More announcements due at 9am on Thursday morning for the best rock festival in the UK.



/jarmo

Interesting.......

This will probably be something like ticket availability or the fact that they will have a Rave tent.  Or even better, in a shocking upset organizers have signed headliner Jethro Tull (First Ever Grammy winner for Best Metal Band) in place of Metallica, also on the bill Guns N' Roses Reunion (Featuring members of Adlers Appetite with Traci Guns on guitar)

Whahahah, that's funny!  :hihi: :rofl:

I can also see that Jarmo doesn't believe this reunion hype at all since he states "for thoese who still believe...."

Ta Jarmo. So people, keep speculating till Thursday.  :D

I liked Madagas's idea to have GNR and VR play on the different stages at the same time there.


However, just as feared, things didn't go so well.  One of them said the final thing could be better...then Axl had to go over it again and Dizzy and Richard had to go back to their sidelines. :'(


Good point.  : ok: I don't know any other Rock band as original as this lineup.
However I bet they'd pick George Chin or someone who weighs their words.

Things didn't go well??? From what did you conclude that??Or just a guess? :-\

Or Just a joke. :P

you had me there  ;D

Im "untellingent" because I posted a link to a thread where your buddy said slash is back and that someone else said both you and ARC told him? That's some real messed up logic there pal. ::)

I think if we know anything about W. Axl Rose it's that he doesn't care about instant buzz and marketability. His choice of musicians (all talented but not well known) and his lack of public appearance and time to complete the album prove this. There is no way Slash and co. would want to work on CD songs playing Fortus and co.'s parts. Can you really imagine Slash playing the chorus melody in madagascar (which is key to the song and couldn't be taken out) - neither he nor Fortus would be particularly happy. As someone said, Merck crushed the reunion rumour following the Rose's RS interview. This was a like a few days before Halfin's revelation. It's rediculous to think something could change so quickly and it's also rediculous for him to bother crushing the same rumour twice.

Why Halfin said what he did we don't know. I have a feeling he was referring to Metallica's original lineup because he talks about it being dependant on Ulrich getting his act together in the same sentence. Maybe there was some doubt about Ulrich playing so that's why he said the original lineup of Metallica. Then when he realised his error he removed it just to avoid confusion. Incidentally I know the original lineup of Metallica can't happen so don't point that out - he might have meant original as in with Ulrich.

Either way, it can't be true, but we'll see what happens Thursday. Good chance of it being Nu-Gnr. Just wondering how long before the 2002 tour was it confirmed they would be playin gigs. Was the Las Vegas New Year gig a complete surprise - was it rumoured beforehand?

Incidentally I wasn't a fan of GnR back in 2002 and heard very little of the tour here in Britain, so there clearly wasn't as much publicity as in America and certainly not near as much as a U2 tour. I'm not a big U2 fan but still hear loads about them over here when they tour, so whoever said nu-GnR can be as big as U2 is wrong.

First it was 2 weeks, and now its months. How convenient. I see your gonna ride that gravy train until the wheels fall off.

Ahem, New GNR.  >:(
They can. Who knows. You can't tell the future. You just can't.
Again I don't mean the bigger the better. Size is less important than quality, you know. :smoking:
But like our mate Buddha Master, I like to think that the best times are ahead of me.

Maybe Ross will at least be half right.

Metallica are playing an 'Escape From The Studio Tour' this summer, and will be playing in Dublin on June 11th.

Metallica to headline on the Saturday, leaving an almighty big gap to fill on the Sunday...

God damn man who the fuck cares if theres a reunion, it would suck anyways. Why cant ppl just be happy that guns may play and tour again!!!!!!

stop stringing people along - if you have something to say, say it
otherwise things are easily misinterpreted

question: did you and/or ARC claim(to anyone) that Slash is back in GNR or did you not?

Long time watcher, first time poster. There's been a lot of gossip about this on popbitch today (a good rumour board for all things pop and bitch). Various different articles about gnr from people who really don't give a f*ck and actually slag them off. Download is rumoured to be guns & metallica (see below). Don't shoot the messenger, could be bullshit but this sites pretty good and as I said before they aren't fans (source popbitch.com).
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The unexpected reunion
makes the brightlights of daybitch today courtesy of bill_squiers. There's legs in that there story, although as is the want of the gods, it's currently off. Although if it will happen it will be at Download as billy explained. GNR will top the bill along with The Prodigy (WTF?) and Metallica, yay! Now, remember when they topped the bill some years ago, Lars pulled out at the last minute and was replaced by drummers from Slayer and Slipknot? Set was very short, missing key member, etc in fear of the massive complaints and breach of contract their manager offered a free UK gig to placate fans. But guess what, no-one complained! Free gig plans were shelved. Some Kind of Monster - best band DVD evah - it's fucking Jerry Springer with guitar heroes.
melancholy_shopping_trolley Wed 8 Feb 0:54, Reply

I for one think the whole thing is quite exciting!  :D .....I want to believe

It sure is exciting times, relatively speaking, on the GNR front!? Also, the Popbitch site is full of paprazzi, who usually are the first to disperse the smoke from fires.? It's funny, how the stars despise them, and call them liars; but the real reason they hate them is because they find out the things? (truth)the stars don't want everyone to know (at least 3/4 of the time)!? Well, I talked to a studio musican friend today.? I asked him if he has heard anything regarding GNR when he was in LA working last week.? He said, he has not heard anything in months (although he had not asked anyone).? The last thing he heard, during the summer, was that the new guy's had put down a ton of great musical material, and Axl still had not put down lyrics on much of it.? Someone who claims to know Roy Thomas Baker at popbitch, says the same thing.? Say's that the musicians laid down over 60 songs, and Axl had only sang on six of them.? Say's that the six that are done, are "classics."?

OK, now I am going to analyze the situation a little, like a music company or promoter would.  Axl really has painted himself in a corner.  In fact, without a hit song from Chinese Democacy, the new band would not be a large concert draw.  They could have a nice run in small venues, but would not be able to sell out large venues (like 2002--the curiosity factor in play) even in larger markets, excluding London or NY.  My feeling, from a career standpoint (Axl is smart and seems at peace personally, but I think he still has much fire to succeed in his career--he wants to go down in history as a "great"!), is that Axl is in a tough spot.  He hired an extremely talented bunch of guy's who gave everything they had in writing, and recording phenomenal songs for Chinese Democracy.  For whatever reason, the finished songs have not come about how Axl imagined.  Also, he knows that a bomb, would destroy the past catalog and the GNR mystique forever--thus destroying his immortal "rock god" status.  So he has three choices (this is my opinion):

a)  release CD, get flogged by the media and destoy future/potential financial earnings (reunion would still draw if album is good), but maybe score a major artistic & personal success.

b)  Reform the old band, tour the world , rake in millions, and hope to God that they can put out one more relevant-classic album.

c)  release CD, play a few one off shows with the original band to build all kinds of GNR hype (helps CD sales), and then either tour theatre's (would be their best forum for artistic merit and intimate shows) with the new band, or make a great album with the classic line-up and tour again.

or to preserve his enigma status--totally disapear (does not look like that is happening with all the high profile public appearances--he knows that his Vegas appearances will be reported).

One other thing, some of the new guy's might be fed up (I sensed that in Tommy's voice during the last interview he did--"been in GNR as long as the Replacement were together"--Mat's had what, eight albums during a nine year period?) and are waiting for the contracts to expire to begin other projects officially.  Also, I think it was cool for Dizzy to go the fraternity, but that should have stayed private.  Really, it was not a good career move to have the interview all over the place, and made him look foolish (this makes me wonder how seriously he is taking the prospects of CD coming out?). 

Fun times, my friends

If the source you are quoting is reliable, then we aren't even close to this album being released. Although its impossible to vouch for that source and say its 100%accurate, I'm inclined to believe it. A journalist told me last year that hardly any work has been done on CD since 2002. I've always been a little skeptical about that, and actually started to feel more positive about a possible release this year, but there are just so many unknowns when it comes to info about this album. Its very odd. Axl was always pretty open during the making of UYI, and one reason for that is because a shitload of progress was being made. Maybe Axl never hardly speaks because there's nothing to talk about.

So last summer, Axl had 6 songs done.

In Jan., he told RS that 26 were nearly done(8 months later if you figure summer to be in June).


I see that as a positive sign that the record (CD) is possibly finished and he's working on a followup album like W AXL ROSE poster suggested. :peace:

This is what he heard.  He had no way to clarify if this was true or not.  What he heard was studio shop-talk and rumors.  For all he knows, it could have been someone reading an article where Slash said that once, and then repeating it in the studio when he asked.  Really, he has no contacts with anyone in GNR.

Well, fuck me.

Let me change my smiley to this----------------------->        :crying:

Actually, Slash said there were only 2 songs finished. So the 6 finished songs info must come from someone else.

http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=14683

Not sure if it has been posted already, but Metallica confirmed their shows in their official site

Here's what we have so far:

* June 3 Nurburgring, GER - Rock Am Ring Festival

* June 4 Nurnberg, GER - Rock Im Park Festival

* June 8 Arnhem, HOL - Gelredome

* June 10 Donington UK - Download Festival

* June 11 Dublin IRE - Download Festival

Take this for what it's worth. ?He did talk to Mike Clink (said Clink was a funny son of a gun) once, in a studio or party, and he said that Clink hinted that Izzy's loss was devastating and the main reason for the delay in new material. ?He said Clink thought the new guy's were talented, and could write, but that Izzy wrote to Axl's strengths and knew his tendencies and soul (not verbatim, but you get the jist). ?My friend, I should note does much studio work, and is also producing some mid-level artists, and some that are becoming more well know. ?He also, since we were young has thought Izzy was god, and might add little tid-bits to make Izzy look better. ?But, I think I have read in other spots (Steven Tyler say's this), that many insiders predicted that it was over, as far as new material was concerned, when Izzy left. ?He was the main songwriting force, and Axl the lyrical force on all four albums with original material.

BTW, I love the new Victoria's Secret commercial!! ?Go UNC!!!

I dont need Mike Clink to tell me that. :hihi: We've known that since the release of TSI.

gnronline.com still says NOTHING.
Oh well.
Another day another dream shot to hell. :hihi:

If that's the case, then GNR would most likely avoid these shows, as Metalica live is a fairly well-tuned force that could blow the socks off even a reformed GNR. ?If a reformed GNR had about ten tune-up shows, then doing these shows could be realistic. ?VR, was exceptional at Live 8!! ?But, crazier things have happened, and I still think that there is a major push by the promoters at Download, and other festivals (RIR for sure) to get GNR to reform--heck the whole damn concert & record industry, esp. the rock side of things, would embrace it wholeheartedly!! ?I would imagine Metallica will play with a vengeance.

One thing I might ask, though, why did a reformed Van Halen fail so bad on their reunion? Nothing is a sure bet success. They really bombed, and there was not much interest. ?For some reason though, I think GNR are far more enigmatic/sexier (not just in a physical way) and relevant in the current state than Van Halen--esp. with the success of VR amongst younger rock fans (high school kid's love them)!!

:rofl: :rofl: Thanks for the laugh. Thats the funniest thing I've seen posted here in awhile.

They are a major force live, even with some time-off.? Have you ever seen them live?? If not, your statement is foolish at best.? Metallica is a power-metal-machine live.? Don't fool yourself.? I love GNR far more than Metallica, but many nights they upstaged GNR in 1992.  Note, that I think GNR would be fine with tune-up shows. 

If you have not seen Metallica live, go see them.  They are very, very good.

GN'R blew Metallica away in '92. Obviously thats what the majority of the responces are gonna be (this is afterall a gnr site) but I think its a given that GN'R was much better preformance wise than metallica back then.

What show?  I personally thought GNR was better, but many people who were not fanatics of either band certainly thought Metallica was better on many occasions.  I thought they were both phenomenal, both times I saw them in 92!  James Hetfield is a very good live performer--that really is beyond argument.  For the love of women and wine, after all, they are Metallica!

I don't know. ?Neither Axl or Hetfield can sing their old stuff live anymore. ?Have you heard Hetfield try to sing Master of Puppets in the past 8 years? ?Hell, he has the audience sing half the song for him!

With Bucket in the band, the new gnr was every bit as good as metallica, live. ?Without him, I think Metallica wins hands down. ?Bucket was that important.

Well, yes and no.  Ever heard of Slash!!  LOL!  I think he would be a nice replacement (tongue firmly planted in my cheek) for Bucket!!   I would love to see this board if GNR announces a few live dates in the near future!!

I dont see what was 'foolish' about my statement. most everyone here has seen metallica perform live in some capacity, whether its in person, on tv,etc. In those years, there wasn't a band on earth that could blow GNR off the stage. For you to say otherwise is just asking for an argument from people here, and I'm not falling for it. Dont bother replying to this post, or any of my posts. I'm tired of your "foolishness".? ?

I don't think a reunion will happen soon. I'm quite confident it will happen sometime in the far future, but not now.

Will Gnr play Download or Rir?? Maybe or maybe not, but if they do, it will be the current band.

a)? release CD, get flogged by the media and destoy future/potential financial earnings (reunion would still draw if album is good), but maybe score a major artistic & personal success.

b)? Reform the old band, tour the world , rake in millions, and hope to God that they can put out one more relevant-classic album.

c)? release CD, play a few one off shows with the original band to build all kinds of GNR hype (helps CD sales), and then either tour theatre's (would be their best forum for artistic merit and intimate shows) with the new band, or make a great album with the classic line-up and tour again.

or to preserve his enigma status--totally disapear (does not look like that is happening with all the high profile public appearances--he knows that his Vegas appearances will be reported).




good post - I think you summed up Axls options here very well - it is indeed a precarious position for him to be in, albeit entirely of his own making

Download is a 3 day festival so if they played then they would never see the 'Tallica boys. They would play on a different night.? Probably a good thing if Axl is still bitter about the comments made in the Year and a Half in the life of Metallica video.? Download festival have just offically announced Download Ireland taking place the same weekend in Dublin.? Only 'Tallica so far...

Two random thoughts with zero evidence so please don't make anything of them.

1:? Rock am Ring in Germany is 3 days too (the weekend before Download).? The only bands worthy of headlining are Depeche Mode and now Metallica which means there is probably a spare headline slot.? ?

2:? I've heard stuff saying Download is announcing its lineup Thursday (tomorrow).? With that in mind if you were an Los Angeles based band looking to make a major major announcement I wonder if there are any events taking place this evening (you know like ones that are televised live on CBS) that would be a good place to make that announcement.

Once again these are just my own spurious thoughts and are in no way based on fact or rumour.? Much more likely to be false than fact etc.

I know that this has nothing to do with the Download Festival....

But GNR are not going to play the Reading/Leeds..

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Melvin Benn has said that Guns N'Roses will not be appearing at the Leeds/Reading festival this year in the UK.

Benn has admitted though that he would welcome back GN'R to the festival that they played in 2002.

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Being someone who wasted money on the VH 'reunion' i can tell you it was probably the high ticket price ($100) and word of mouth about how awful the performances were-eddie was drunk to the point he couldnt play (at least at the show i saw, and from what i hear many others) and it was blatlantly clear that the guys couldnt stand each other and it was just a cash venture. i couldnt say if it was because the kids didnt care or not-they probably couldnt afford it in either case!

Nice for him to consider CD, The Blues, Maddy, Silk Worms, Rhiad and IRS "classics".

i just can't see that gn'r would have anything to do with metallica?? reformed or not...

And if gn'r reunites now before cd is out we'll never get to hear cd and axl would truly have wasted all this time for nothing. I mean slash izzy duff would never rerecord cd stuff and pass it out as their own would they? i don't hink they would even play the songs live at all...

a cool think would be a huge mix tho, with old gn'r, a few vr songs with scott on the vocals and new gn'r with new shit all at the same show. and maybe AA as a warm up. :hihi: i doubt axl would even consider that tho...

Or rather I doubt S n D would.

Unless I'm mistaken they've never accepted the current band as GNR or new GNR.

As I said earlier, it would be really great. Maybe the best.

I don't like the idea of mixing them.......

Trot out original GnR
Trot out the bloated 1992 live version (Horns, Teddy, and all)
Trot out New GnR
Trot out VR
Then 18 people on stage do Paradise City...

To me that sounds like a bad Beatles Tribute band changing outfits as the years go from Beattle Boots to the Sgt. Pepper outfits.

I don't understand this whole "they'll reunite someday, but let new GN'R have its moment in the sun" philosophy. Axl just turned 44 people... if it's inevitable that they're going to reunite someday... THE SOONER THE BETTER... and I am a supporter of the new band and chinese democracy... but that's turned into something akin to waiting for Giselle Buendchen bursting through my front door, telling me I've been a bad boy and that my punnishment is 48 hours of mud-wrestling with her... still waiting on both counts.... :drool:

Sorry I don't give 2 shits about a reunion. As far as Chinese Democracy and the new band will see the light.

I don't give 2 shits if they don't play any gigs right now, I just want to hear some new fuckin music

FYI: GN'R is not listed as a rumored band on the Download page (http://www.getlive.co.uk/festivals/lineup.aspx?rid=90843) at getlive.co.uk anymore.



/jarmo

So I guess this is locking the thread... :-\

Now that's a shocker.

It was a "slight rumor", though.

Surprised it made 16 pages! lol

Thank Ross Halfin and all the insider speculation for that. :hihi:

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Ross Halfin's prediction of Metallica playing the Download festival have today been confirmed. According to their official website, they will be playing the festival on 10th June 2006.

Halfin's other prediction that the original line-up of Guns N'Roses will also be playing has yet to materialise.
 
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Take this for what it is worth but this is about 3rd rumor I have seen in the last week. anyway here is the link http://uk.news.launch.yahoo.com. hope it is true

cant see anything about GNR there..

Click on the Metallica at Download article, it mentions that GnR are rumored to be on the bill as well.

I really enjoy the new band playin the old stuff. I think they do a kick arse job. Robin's solo in November Rain is unreal. Brain on my michelle is fuckin awesome. The new band rules.


 :peace:

when CD comes out we,ll get slash n co to play the songs and lets see how they do

Am looking for this news - not that i really think GnR will be there this year - but am intrigued.  cant seem to find any updates other than metallica as near as confirmed.   I just dont think its gonna be UK for GnR this year (sadly). will post if I find anything. x

From efestivals:

(Metallica) One of the other dates, for Sunday 11th June, is listed as 'Download Ireland', so it looks as though Download at Donington has a new baby sister! There's likely to be more news on this later today.

Sounds like this is the Download news, for today anyway.   :smoking:

Here's the thing. I love the new band. I love the old band. I love VR. I just want to see something live; at this point I don't care what. I think a reunion would probably be a mistake, from the point of view of getting Chinese Democracy out there. In any case, I really can't see Axl shafting his current band members, who he's been working with for 8 years or so, in favour of some guys he hasn't spoken to in a decade. Especially Tommy, who's been a good friend to him; why woudl Axl drop him and bring back Duff? Here's a wild possibility, though: maybe Slash could be planning to jump ship from VR and sign up with New GN'R? In terms of "who's the most recognizable member of GN'R", Slash would easily come top - and the presence of Axl and Slash onstage together would be enough for those pressmen who don't care that much about research to bill them as a GN'R reunion.

It might still be bad for the band; I'd rather Axl goes out and finds a new guitarist who gels with the other members of New GN'R than getting Slash back just for the headlines... but it might just be the best of both worlds. Fortus leaping around a stage with Slash, with Brain drumming (and he is vastly superior to Adler and Sorum), Finck off doing his weird thing on the side... Random speculation, I know - but it'd be pretty good nonetheless. :)

SG

I think you are missing the point... as well as many other people. The goal of a reunion wouldn't be just to get attention from the media and sell out stadiums !

The only important thing about a reunion is to try to recapture some chemistry of the past, this kind of very rare thing that only few bands have and that neither NewGnr nor VR will ever have. That's why Duff, Izzy and Slash will always be better for GNR than Stinson, Finck and Fortus ! Because there was a chemistry, and that very special chemistry produced Guns N'Roses.

Probably hard to understand for young fans.

Why is it hard to understand for you that we have a special thread for all the reunion theories and wishes in the Dead Horse section?



/jarmo

Yes, but that chemistry's almost certainly gone; Axl hasn't seen Slash for a decade. And there clearly is chemistry between the members of New GN'R; part of the reason it's taken Axl so long to put the damn band together is that he was trying to find people who worked well together on stage.

A full GN'R reunion would irritate me hugely; it'd screw over all the members of New GN'R who've put years of their lives and careers into supporting Axl, it'd screw over Scott Weiland, and it'd piss all the effort put into making Chinese Democracy out the window. Slash taking over the vacant lead guitarist spot in GN'R would still screw over the rest of VR, but it'd be a better (or a less bad) option, I think, simply from the point of view of the media coverage...

SG

I just answered to elevendayempire post which was about a reunion. I really find amusing a GN'R fan being hugely irritated by a reunion...
Jarmo, in case you don't want me to post, just tell me.

I'd be interested in a reunion, yeah. But I'd still feel annoyed if it were to happen now, for the reasons I gave above. I want to hear this masterwork that Axl's been working on for a decade, not a compromised version created after a reunion.

SG

Chemistry happens when the components are there. Guns N' Roses' compontents are Axl, Slash, Duff and Izzy.


BTW it's interesting that after various board members write 16 pages mostly about the reunion (and even Jarmo posted some) it turns out to be a Dead Horse.   ???

There's a difference. There was supposedly insider info and a rumour that they were reuniting for that festival. Had nothing to do with fantasy land shit about a reunion.

I think that if that album is so amazing it would have been out already. If the songs are that great, we would have heard them. If the band gelled that great, they would not have not seen each other in 4 years..... my point being that if Axl's vision is/was that great he would have put it out by now......if you have a great band you constantly want to play together, right? That's how it all started and how most bands start, they wanna play together and show the world how great they are. If they themselves thought it is great they would have given it to us.....

I hope I'm wrong and that amazing CD smacks me in the head....but till then, this is my 2 cents.....

Odd, i posted this message up yesterday and it's gone. So i'll type it again.

I worte: I cannot see Gn'R and Metallica appearing on the same venue ever again. I also wrote: It will be interesting to see if and when Gn'R and VR are to play the same venue. They could always play on different days i suppose. Wouldn't it be funny if Slash and Duff were to watch the new Gn'R and Axl was to watch VR. How weird.

It's as irritating as reading certain female board members go on about Axl's "hotness" in threads that have nothing to do with the subject. Keep it to the thread dedicated to your hopes for a reunion.

Reading about how much you want a reunion, Axl's shorts, how Buckethead never fit in GN'R and how "inside sources" are no inside sources in multiple threads in the GN'R section isn't exactly fun.




/jarmo

Back to the original topic. The news about Download that appeared at 9am this morning that we were waiting for was just to confirm Metallica. Still a vacant headline spot on Sunday i think. Tickets are already on sale so hopefully they'll announce the lineup soon

Yeah they should start a dead horse topic if they already haven't. I personally don't care to read about their sexual fantasies. :puke:

So the romour was false, oh well  :-\

The rumors are false 99.99999% of the time. I honestly don't believe anybody anymore-Axl, band members, Merck, et al. Like my brother said about Axl's last comments on 32 songs and hearing music this year-"it's all smoke and mirrors"-absolutely nothing has changed. I'll believe this cd is coming out when I walk in to the record store and see it on the shelf. Everything else is bullshit. ::)

i think after all these years, you?re not the only one thinking like that :hihi:     but i think i`d believe axl if he did an announcement tomorrow.....including a release date.

Looking back at the first post of this thread, it doesn't mention anything about a reunited band. It only mentions GN'R.

I guess Ross "The Source" Halfin is the one who started the reunion rumors.....  ???




/jarmo

I have a feeling that my guess was right...

I still believe that Slash asked Ross to post that...

Well, it was half true, as Ross said that Metallica and GN'R would be playing, and Metallica have now been confirmed.

Unfortunately I think we now have to wait another week to get confirmation of the next couple of bands.

There are still 2 headliners to announce, Friday and Sunday.

You might be right considering Mysteron said the rumour was started by someone in the vr camp.

so did ross say that gnr and metallica will play before even metallica were announced or rumoured?

^ Ross made his statement on Feb 3rd (I believe, I may be a day out), Metallica confirmed their appearance on their website yesterday, Feb 8th.

Most big bands get rumoured to appear every year, so it could have been a guess or he may have known something was in the pipeline.

were there rumours of metallica appearing before?

The odd one or two, but they were mostly dismissed as a lot of people thought Metallica would be recording their new album.

i just can't believe how some of you think that gn'r and metallica will have something to do with eachother again, don't you remember what happened in 92?

It's not like axl would take the band back AND go play with metallica wtf?

if they both would play download they sure wouldn't play the same night...

yeah i also think they wouldn`t play the same night.  because both bands would be playing as headliners then.   

by the way i don?t think anyone here believes that axl wants to play with metallica nor does it anyone expect

They wouldn't play on the same night. It's a festival. Not a one-day thing...

I still don't know what to believe, Ross might have used irony in his words and meant the new band.

and what happened in'92?

Gnr and Metallica toured together and were good friends.

Then Metallica released a home video and James took the piss out Axl, and was saying to the press that the band is 4 guys and 1 guy by himself on a power trip, or something along those lines. Then they just fell out over it and Axl ranted about Metallica in 1993 at a concert and Duff got knocked out with a bottle of piss over it.

Something like that  . . . .

thanks    i didn`t know that about those hetfield comments........   i only knew that they aren`t friends anymore, at least james and axl...

the concert was sacramento right?  do you think the bottle was thrown because of the rant?

part of the reason they are not friends is because axl walked off stage (which caused a riot), on the night james got burned on stage and metallica had to cut their set short.

they hoped axl would "save the day" and put on a 2+ hour kick ass show so people would still get their money's worth. instead axl walked off stage.

he also went on stage late during that tour, which created a negative vibe for the tour and the relationship between the bands. 

well he did that at almost every show.....    but yeah montreal pissed james really off i think

i hope gnr or metallica play at the return of monsters of rock rather than the crappy new band filled download.

You know what's funny? Usually when i walk into a blaze of pyrotechnics i tend to get a bit upset as well


:rofl: :rofl: :-X

given the history of the Metallica / GnR relationship; and the relationship b/ween Axl and the other original memebers; I see this as being a 1 in a 1,000,000 shot of happening

I think Metallica misses the "rivalry" with GN'R however... unlike Nirvana (although I never was quite sure what was going on there as there were some "weird" entries in Cobain's diary about Axl)... Metallica respects the hell out of GN'R's music and considered them a worthy adversary. I think relations are pretty good between Metallica and the rest of the old line-up... they just didn't dig Axl's "attidue" at all...

Lars has always had an "Axl fetish" however... :hihi:

i think it's very possible to play the same festival when it's a huge event with several bands over the course of a few days.

we're not talking about them touring together or anything.

You oviously havn't heard James hetfield's Axl pisstake rant  :hihi:

the rest of gnr, not axl......      and what did he say?   

As Monsters Of Rock is being headlined by Deep Purple, that ain't gonna happen this year.

And there is the mickey taking in 'Some Kind Of Monster', with James putting a bowl on his head and screeching 'Welcome To The Jungle', ripping Axl off from the video.

Oh my god this thread is still going on. I mean the rumour. It must be true.


I understand Dockland is not a big fes. Like warose I thought they might have 3~4stages indoor and out and the same number of headliners per night like some festivals. :P

Download has three stages over three days.

The main stage is where all the 'big boys' play.

The next stage is where a lot of up and coming bands play, with a few 'big' names headlining. Last year Motorhead played on this stage.

The smallest stage is where even less well known bands play, such as Crucified Barbara.

If Metallica and GN'R WERE to appear at Download it would be on different days. And with Metallica playing on the Saturday, the obvious day for Guns to play would be Sunday.

Personally, I feel we are more likely to get AC/DC headlining the Sunday at the mo. :peace:

Don't be so sure about that...

so you think it`s likely that gnr will play there??

Reading your posts isn't exactly fun either.

You must probably use another nickname when you want to be funny.

It's not about being funny, it's about staying on topic. Something you and some others seem to have difficulties with.  ::)

So, if you feel like discussing how funny my posts are, you're free to leave feedback about it in the right section and in the right thread. Can you manage that?



/jarmo

Jarmo offers the world a place for GN'R fans to come and communicate. He offers no nonsense news and information on GN'R. And he does this with no agenda and it takes time out of his day to ensure this is all done in a fair and respectful manner.

Based on the quotes I've read through the years (although admittedly many of them are from Lars who would probably replace James with Axl in a nano second), I am almost certain that Metallica (my second favorite band) respected (if begrudgingly) Guns N' Roses' MUSIC and the rest of the original/UYI line-up. James making fun of Axl and bashing him for Montreal and all his rock star trappings is a different matter alltogether- not related to music. Plus, I wouldn't be surpised at all to find out that at the time of the Guns-Metallica tour in '92 the rest of GN'R was closer with Metallica than they were with Axl. Axl was never around, had his own private dressing room, was into Stephanie Seymour and previous lives and where the closest nuclear power plant was to the venue, etc... meanwhile the Metallica guys were there hanging out backstage having a good time with whoever wanted to party... sounds like something Slash, Duff and Matt would have been a part of...

But again... just speculating! :nervous:

PS Jarmo is awesome. A true friend to Guns N' Roses fans everywhere. It would be cool someday if Axl acknowledged Jarmo at a concert or something... he's earned it. : ok:

Judge Dredd, cheers. that's what I thought.

Sorry dude but I'm sure You're in the minority here.  :hihi: Not that being in the minority is a bad thing.

Reading my posts must be torturous for you. Or rather you just skip mine, perhaps.

He's done it before, why not again? : ok:

Great post, Mysteron. If people dont believe what you just said, they should go to some of the various GNR forums and take a look. Most of them are just the admin. and mods on a major power trip. A few months ago, I went to one of the newer GNR forums to see what it was like. I signed up there under my same name here, and I made 11 posts the night I was there. I went back there the next day, and the mods had deleted 6 of my posts. None of my posts were bad or insulting or anything, it was just kind of obvious they recognized my name from this site, didnt like me, so they cleared half of my posts. I never went back there again. Its their loss. :hihi: Jarmo doesn't play bullshit games like that, and neither do the mods.

[center[Here Today Gone To Jarmo? :hihi:[/center]

Friday Headliners : The Prodigy
Saturday Headliners : Metallica
Sunday Headliners : ?

I personally feel it'll be Slipknot.

I read somewhere they signed a 3 year deal with the organisers.

2004 (on before Korn & Metallica-who headlined)
2005 (on just before System Of a Down-who headlined)
2006 (Headliners?)

anyone see a pattern here?

I saw them last year.............jesus..... they were utter shit.

don`t you like them in general or was it just that concert?

Prodigy are actually going to be the band on the main stage before Metallica.

Not convinced about Slipknot; I thought they were on hiatus whilst Corey did the 2nd Stone Sour album and the others did whatever they do when Slipknot have some downtime.

Incidentally Isn't slipknot 's management sanctuary as well?

"Prodigy are actually going to be the band on the main stage before Metallica."

?

You have proof ?

Judge Dredd : Ok you're right , just checked.

need sleep nighty night.

i tend to believe your irony teory more and more, at first it didn't make any sence to me but i simply can't imagine any other reason for him to post a thing like that... however, although slah and ross seem to have a certain dialog i have a hard time believing that slash told ross to post such a thing, slash knows better than to provoke axl at this point....

although slipknot had a great run last year with subliminal verses i can't imagine they will headline such a huge event this year with nothing new out... guns could just for because they are so rumored, but slipknot, neppe....

One can never be sure in the world of GN'R...  ;)

I wouldn't buy tickets yet though...

Back in 2004, both Metallica and GNR where scheduled for Rock in Rio (lisboa) on different nights. Metallica did play but GNR as we all know cancelled. So whats all this argument about GNR and Metallica being on the same festival, it almost happened two years ago.  ;)

Are you done whining about my posts ?

I'm not off-topic more often than any of your favorite posters ! I'm a GN'R fan, but I don't have the same point of view about this band that you, your mods or the people who want to be your friends.

Can you deal with it ?

Good for you. As I said before, maybe you need to have things repeated so you'll understand, post those opinions in the right threads from now on and you'll be fine.



/jarmo

insider? :hihi:

Well ofcourse...

I just got my fax machine fixed...  :rofl:

Well, if they turn out to headline, or play at the Rock in Rio Festival, then i guess things are about to set form.. and then i wouldent rule out Download

According to a Queen site Admin:

"I hear from a good source...the three headliners are...mindblowing if you ask me.

Metallica
AC/DC
Guns N' Roses - (Axl and Friends)"

Then when I asked him whether he has heard about Rock In Rio-Lisbon this year he replied...

"Nope, but outdoor shows seem the way they are going.

I have a friend who used to work for Guns and she said Greatest Hits 2 is due in March/April, then finally the new album."

Make of it what you will! He has said in the past he is a huge GN'R fan and saw them at the London Docklands in 2002.

Source: DazRose01 ChineseDemocracy.com
 


http://forums.queenonline.com/viewtopic.php?p=954963#954963


Notice how he writes Guns N Roses then (Axl and Friends) he deffiantly must mean the "new band"  :hihi:

And according to Martin from Velvet-Revolver.com in the latest Kerrang! issue there are "hints" towards GnR:

In the new issue of Kerrang there is a lot about Download festival.

In the contents page where it lists the confirmed acts and tells you which page to read about em, there is a phrase next to each one......

and all of them are GNR song titles.  This seems like the biggest hint ever.  I am contacting my sources at the moment to try and establish some fact.?

I'm not quite sure I've never seen it myself, they're probably adding  2+2 and ending up with 5.

But they said. "Pictures at the top saying Pretty Tied Up" "A Slash pic saying "Estranged"" "Anything Goes wrote next to something else"

Like I say probably nothing just what some people seen in Kerrang

hmm, interesting, the rumours seams waird thease days...

Its about as confusing at the TV Show "LOST".  :rofl:

Yeah, Interesting and confusing...

So she doesn't work for GNR now.... hum. Maybe her info is old.

Who knows but I Would deffiantly say the source is genuine because it came from the Queen sites Admin, we'll have to see what happens.

For a while i was thinking something like; Slash has just been joking, and says the Axl`s new cd will come out in March, and it sounds really good! Then we get a new Greatest titts! Slash knows the old songs sounds good  ;) that would be kind of a sad thing to do thoug

It would be a funny thing to do.

Yeah, actually it would..
Never heard Slash use the word Chinese Democracy... huh..
But it would also messing with the GNR fan, in a.. humm.. kind of sad way..

Well, if these GNR fans hinge their hopes on what a person that has been out of the band for more than 10 years says, the jokes on them. :)

i know what you mean.

But, i guess things are different when a band release greatest hits albums, they are not beeing promoted before they release them, are they? So it could just drop out in any day, without anyone knew it? Just a thought..

Slash has better things to  do with VR. Even if you don't like him he isn't that sad or would think that much into to play a prank on you's  ::) :hihi:

No no no! I love Slash! Never done anything to me.. But he did mention a release in March.. and it could be a "tiny" joke, and turn out to be GH2 ..


But lets back to the topic!
If AC/DC, METALLICA, GNR turned out to play at the download festival. How big do you think this would?
 3 of the biggest rock/metal band in history! I would buy tickets right away :D

Ahhh, there is an idea that hasn't been posted before. intriguing...........

If this has been posted in any fashion before, you have my apology. If this is true though, thank god i have my tickets already. 3 days of bliss.


http://www.gunsnroses.us/news/article.php3?id_article=17

"The Admin for the official Queen message board has made a few posts regarding GN?R activity this year.... Regarding Download Festival [1], he wrote:

"I hear from a good source...the three headliners are...mindblowing if you ask me. Metallica AC/DC Guns N? Roses - (Axl and Friends)"

Then when I asked him whether he has heard about Rock In Rio-Lisbon this year he replied... "Nope, but outdoor shows seem the way they are going. I have a friend who used to work for Guns and" she said Greatest Hits 2 is due in March/April, then finally the new album."

Sounds good, but the GH2 part sucks. They didn't have two albums worth of hits!

Does that mean new gnr? or old gnr reunion? there is so much GNR internet content atm i dont know what to think anymore

it means old and new, with brian may and moby and shaq plus AA as the opening act! :hihi:

I was standing in a shop about an hour ago. There was this loud big haired person talking very loudly, he came across as a know it all type. He comfirmed to the entire shop that he was going to the Download festival, Metallica were going to be there and Guns N'Roses were headlining according to management, although they (GNR) may not turn up as Axl Rose is temperamental and likes to walk off stage half ay through sets.

so funny to hear  :hihi:

it means old and new, with brian may and moby and shaq plus AA as the opening act! :hihi:


I know we arent going to hear that stuff, but I really hope that someday we get to hear EVERYTHING that went into the making of CD- Navarro, Shaq, Zakk Wylde, Moby etc....

FYI, I pm'd him on the queen board directly.

I'd say don't take everything he said as gospel and we'll leave it at that.

Is this edition of Kerrang! out now?

+ some examples?   

^ In the inside cover, where they have pics of all the 'artistes' in the edition, there is the name of a Guns track above each one, 'Pretty Tied Up', 'Estranged', and 'One In A Million'.

There is no other mention of Guns in the mag...

How many people will be at Download?  Looking at Halfin's pictures of VR at Download last year, it looks like 100K or so??

http://www.rosshalfin.co.uk/velvet-revolver/velvet-revolver10.html

I believe it is 80,000. : ok:

I think it's more important at the moment to focus on the "exclusive" part... like in the UK tour thread, this tells us that a UK tour can't happen if GNR are at Download.  It's almost a confirmation.   :peace:

That's cool. I can't wait.

Good or bad? Ppersonally i think its gonna be great.... im gonna be getting pretty warm down there. I have visions of a bootleg appearing and it just shows me basically dead near the front. I guess i will be taking alot of water. :beer:

well i kinda hope GNR will start on time this year though  ;D

Axl was really into Prodigy in the 90s.  FIRESTARTA. :hihi:

im sure it will all be finnnne...  :yes:

"SMACK MA BITCH UP" ;D

Now 'them be lyrics!

well exactly...

 ??? :confused: GnR at download?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Erm...YES. According to what we have known for the last several weeks anyway. This is old news is'nt it?!?

he wasnt the only one.i had the keith flint haircut,wore the tshirts,read the book and everything.i actually met some guys on holiday who knew the prodigy as they were also from braintree essex.i still speak to a couple of the lads now.

Well i've been a g n'r fan now for sixteen odd years and scince about 96' like most people  i've been dying to hear what  material is gonna be on the new album, as time passed and orginal members left leaving only axl i though cool i'll listen to an axl rose album with such a cool voice how could i not , Oh my god comes out , cool moving with the times still sounds anrgy and fast ,wicked  new album must be soon nothing nothing ,time passes then 2006 happens the rumor mill goes crazy things sound hopeful  then bam download gnr to headline  and what original line up bollocks? cool? would i explode from excitment before it happens  hang on axl and slash on stage together never , even if they did would  it been 2hours of their past works or  a mix match of  Better , Paradise city ,Irs ,so on and  so on  ,do i  want my ticket to go and see new material sung but an idol with a new band ,or a legend (original g n'r)playing old songs that id  kill to see and hear? but i know there just rumors and theres no chance of seeing  slash and axl together but knowing how unpredictable  gn'r can be anything could happen right???probably most likely a no show and ill be left with a ticket to see a load crap ,thats angry with there mum and dad  cos there middle class lovely up bringing just hasn't given them anthing to be angry about!

Um, you used a translator, right? I couldn't really read that, sorry.

I am sure you got a good grade for maths  :hihi:

"scince about 96' like most people? i've been dying to hear what? material is gonna be on the new album"
I bet you did too...

:rofl:

Don't say you're from the future and still dying to hear the new album and hearing re****** rumours.

Day tickets anyone?? I can't afford ?115!! I need to see this though!!!!!!!!!

Got a weekender! Steal the money. Some awesome bands this year and still more to be announced as well!  : ok:

Yeah I know, as well as Guns i'd love to see the new lineup of Alice In Chains as well as Tool.

How has the lineup changed, i thought (probably incorrectly) that it was the same lineup. without Layne.
I know they have been having Guest Lead Singers a lot as well. Like me..... 8)

This is taken from the official download site, i see it mentioned briefly in the on tour bit with the download date, but as im sure not everyone checks this, thought id post here. Mods, if i have done band, oopppssss!!!!!!!!

DAY TICKETS TO GO ON SALE FOR DOWNLOAD

PLUS EVEN MORE BANDS CONFIRMED

With just 6 weeks remaining until Download 2006 finally arrives, individual day tickets will go on sale on Wednesday 3 May at 9:00am. These tickets are strictly limited and priced at ?55 each, demand for these is sure With just 6 weeks remaining until Download 2006 finally arrives, individual day tickets will go on sale on Wednesday 3 May at 9:00am. These tickets are strictly limited and priced at ?55 each, demand for these is sure to exceed availability.

With such an outstanding line-up, and impeccable reputation for quality, weekend tickets for this year?s festival have sold faster than ever before. Campsite spaces are only available with weekend tickets and the very last of these are now on sale with less than 6,000 campsite spaces still available. Book now to avoid disappointment.

New bands confirmed today for this year's festival are:


SICKOFITALL, IN FLAMES, ATREYU, THE AUDITION, JOHNNY TRUANT, DEVIL DRIVER, MENDEED, MONEEN AND WINTERVILLE

wow, Sick of it All is on the bill too.  I do like the wide array of bands GNR are playing with on these festivals.  Sick of it All is a really fun band.  Great lyrics, great singalongs, and they are interactive with the crowd.  You can hear some of their stuff here.... http://www.myspace.com/sickofitallny

does anybody know what the chances are of getting day tickets for this on May 3rd.i dont wanna get my hopes up and be gutted when i cant get em.is there anybody out there gonna buy extra tickets like poeple did for the new york show so everybody got tickets.if there is ill be needing 3 daytickets for the 11th? :beer:

Anybody recieved their tickets yet? i'm waiting anxiously........i have bad luck with the post!

No, neither has my brother so I wouldn't be too concerned.  : ok:

Nobe, but damn I can't wait  >:(

Normally tickets get sent out about 10 days before a show like this.  BTW I went to Donnington in '88 this is my first return since then.  Looking forward to it immensly.  A bit sick that they are now selling day only tickets though.  I ended up buying a weekend ticket just to see GNR.

Yeah, that's trully sad, not only for GN'R fans, but for Metallica fans also...

They should have that option from day one. It's the main reason I'm going to Lisbon and Madrid and not RAR and Download...

I see that the Prodigy 'clash' with GNR. I hope for once Axl's late so I can get the best of both!

You hope for once he's late, dude he's never been on time yet?  : ok:

Got this from the download Festival website:

DOWNLOAD RADIO CONFIRMED

BROADCAST OVER THE SITE ALL WEEKEND!

Broadcasting across the entire site this year will be the exclusive Download Radio. Powered by Kerrang! Radio. The station will be featuring special guest appearances and tons of music to get the atmosphere going. Make sure you take your radio on site and tune into Download Radio - this will be running from Wednesday to Sunday. Keep your eyes and ears open and keep checking the site for frequency details.

source: http://www.downloadfestival.co.uk/news/index.asp

Yeah, that sucks, no webacst

How was VRs full set released last year? I only saw one song on tv

No-one. I just wanted to know the odds of getting all of GNRs set pro-shot this year

Only one or two Velvet Revolver songs were broadcasted last year, yet we got a Full Proshot from dime within the week.

Yeah thats why i asked about it

Download highlights on Channel 4 will show their most popular song or the current single. So I reckon it will be Better or Paradise City.

That depends on whether they are trying to promote a UK tour...

Their are plenty of other bands their worth seeing...if its rock you are after try The Backyard Babies, Ginger and the Sonic Circus and A7X. If its the heavier stuf then I can throroughly recommend Opeth, if its alternative try Coheed and Cambria. I actually think Download is great value for a rock fan this year.

theirs about 6 bands including GnR i wanna see but just got warrent spending nearly ?200 pound on ticket
Just hope and pray that they do the UK tour mentioned on the board, coz nottingham was one of the dates!!!!! : ok:

GnR,  tool, alice in chains, avenged sevenfold, korn, metallica and stone sour......what a weekend!

I'm guessing that Prodigy will play before Guns N Roses! I would be suprised if Axl agreed to playing whilst another huge band were on at the same time. I may be wrong its only my opinion, but I hope I'm right I have not seen the Prodigy play in a few years now so I dont want them to be playing at the same time as the nights main attraction! Mike

I have'nt read all this thread but, if you have seen the posters, you would know that

1: GNR are playing Download.
2: They are playing on a different stage to the Prodigy.
3: The Prodigy are rubbish so it does'nt matter.

They wont be on at the same time.  At nearly every festival I know the headlining band play without any other stage being in action.  The Prodgiy and any other band will have finished their sets before GNR take to the stage.

But that would be just your opinion mate! I hate mettalica but I would never say they are rubbish because to other people they are their favourite band!

I saw this at Metallica.com  http://www.metallicabb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23353
Anyone know if GN'R will broardcast live?



 :peace:

last year they had highlights on Kerrang TV and channel 4 here in England.

 : ok:

I remember watching Metallica at Rock Am Ring in 2003.


I think best we can hope for is a song or two in the channel 4 tv show.  :-\

RIR and RAR should be full shows, from download the only full show ive seen was VR