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What do you guys think about Axl's movement on stage during the shows??   I think he is much better than 02'  but I wish he would move a little more  like he did during the ritz show.  I  don't think it is impossible for 44 yr old man to move the way he did during the ritz.  I don't wnat him to run marathons like he did during the UYI  shows  I would just like him to dance more .    At times it looks as if Axl is walking with a book on his head  and his afraid to drop it.  He used to just let  go  and let the music  move him ,  now it just seems like he is holding back.   

I don't think this is too much to ask from a 44 yr old dude : 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vz1strQwRM&search=used%20to%20love%20her


 This is him at the birthday party :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCKi_SM84MU&search=i%20used%20to%20love%20her


which do you prefer?

I think his movement is damn good for his age.  He's not the spazz he used to be, so what. 

 I think Axl is doing just fine : ok:

I think he's trying to conserve as much energy as possible. He went backstage to get oxygen A LOT during the shows. Playing a 2 hour set is tiring for anybody in their 20's in great shape, let alone being in your 40's doing it night after night. I think he's a lot smarter about how he performs now.

Raven

You guys think about shit too much.

Just enjoy.............

Dude, he's only 44. Mick Jagger is in his 60's and still moves like Axl did in his 20's. Axl should still be able to go nuts like he used to.

Mick never moves as much as Axl did in his 20s, you gotta be kidding me!
Also, Mick sounds pretty bad on a lot of the songs now, he almost shouts/speaks them instead..
NOWHERE near the intensity and vocal range that Axl brings to the table!!!!

He still knows how to put on a good show. So what if he doesn't move in the same way he did 20 years ago? A lot of things changed in this band  :hihi:

Mick Jagger might not sound as good as he once did   but he still kicks ass on stage and it's amazing how he has been able to remain thin. Even Bach still looks similar to what he looked in his hey day. it's amazing how much Axl has changed physically and performance wise.   Maybe Mick jagger can share his secrets with Axl on how to stay forever young  when GNR opens for the Stones.   Mick jagger is a freak of nature  I think  he'll be performing into his 70's lol  along side  Keith richard's corpse .     Axl Rose has made me appreciate Mick jagger more .  I mean no disrespect towards Axl.

He was dancing like a manic on the 17th.

dude were you at the shows?? ???

 I was at all four and the man I saw had the hungry look in his eyes like he did back on the mtv awards in 88. I haven't seen axl, look, perform, sound this good since like 89

enough with negativity already... be positive the wait is finally over.

Were you in a coma between 90-93' ???

I saw Axl twice in Texas in 90-93. Once when soundgarden opened for them and the Metallica, Faith No More show---I loved FNM but they played for like a second , then Metallica came out (this was after Hetfield got torched so he was only singing the songs) , I thought it lacked energy but it may have been cause JH was in pain. Anyway on both concerts? i saw, Axl moved and roamed the stage like a tiger, unfortunatly his voice was shot to shhiiite. He saved the day with the energy him and the band exuded. So I can only hope that when I see him in...Houston...Dallas...and hopefully another close venue that not only will his voice be better but that he still exudes that energy because if he has lost that energy and movement and his voice by the time he gets to Tejas I will have wasted a lot of pesos.

I agree with that statement .   That is why i didn't spend my money on Hammerstein shows  .  i want to see good video coverage ( RIR)  of this band before I spend my money on them.  Bad bootlegs  and fanatics testimonials  are not good enough for me.  i need to see a tv quality bootleg before I decide.   

Dont get me wrong I am still going to see them no matter what. unless my wife has a kid or something....well if she is in delivery then i might not go.

I dont think its fair to make judgements about Axl's mobility from what he did on a cramped stage in a more than packed club.

axl's mobility, the man was at a tiny venue with 8 people onstage it was packed, plus the pyros, fireworks, etc.. He did fine, no need for wind sprints..  He bolted when he had to.. Somr snake dancing as well ;D

As long as there is a bit of the snake that's all that matters  :hihi:

I'm sure there will be a bit more running etc on the bigger stages like RIR.

I'd rather him move less and conserve more energy for the vocal performance side of things.

me too, the more he runs the more winded he gets and this affects his vocals adversley

Axl's movement is great.  There is nothing wrong with the way he does or doesn't move.  He puts on one hell of a performance and has an amazing stage presence.  One can't really ask for anything more.

you can ask for more (or less as the case is here) when said movement affects your ability to sing well

Mick Jagger is 63 years old. He looks younger than Axl onstage. :yes:

The way Axl dresses doesn't help either... :no:

He's dressing 100 times better now than in 02 - that was a disgrace

It seems that Axl may have found a new stylist, fair cop I say

It's all about the music, but it doesnt help the marketing team when you have a 40 year old man trying to dress like a gangsta flogging the product

Axl is a bit too classic now. He looks too serious.

Lets just thank god Axl IS playing shows, instead of doing NOTHING. 

Jeez

LOL!
Well I didn't go to NY but did he (as he did in 02) run backstage a lot or did he hang out on stage?...That was a  disappointing factor with those 02 bootleg vids...the minute there was a bit of a guitar break he would be running off stage...I am really glad he showed up for you guys : ok: and gave you a regualr 2 hour show : ok: Seems like he actually likes his job again : ok:

The Hammerstein shows were just awesome!  I can't find the words to describe my experiences!  Axl sounded very good, in fine vocal form, and his moves were very energetic!  I have no complaints at all.  I flew all the way from Calif. to see those shows and it was well worth it!  I wish I could go and do it all over again, see the same shows, or maybe see all four instead of only two.  It was just a hands down great experience!  Thanks Axl and the band for playing your hearts out and giving us a great show!

Don't you fuckers ever compare Axl to Mick.

Axl from what I see from the NY gigs, looks fucking baddass and seems real, and hardcore. Mick parades around like a faggot and doesn't sing anymore....he raps. Big fucking difference.

first off, axl has allways ran off stage during guitar solo's. secondly, i dont care if he was in a wheelchair, i just want to hear the music. i dont care how he was dressed, as long as he sang, thats good enough for me!!!

not on this board ;D :o :rofl:

Axl has always had weak ankles....hence why he dances that "Axl" dance using mostly his upper body.  I don't know if he still does but back in the old days he actually used to have to have his ankles taped up by a chiropractor before every show.  Honest fact from a fan since 1987!

It really saddens me to see the increasing number of people on this forum that lightly throw around the word faggot and imply that being gay is something to be ashamed of.

It also saddens me that it seems to be accepted by the moderators.

axl just can win with some people can he...

I thought Axl's mobility was fine.  That stage was small, and crowded so if he ran around he would have to watch out not to run into anything.

what do people expect him to do on a 2x4 stage with 8 people and the gear? He had the little platform in the front to be alone...   He was like us, sweating his fucking nuts off..

all the other members had assigned stances so he could pick his way thru.....they needed an air traffic controller for that stage ;D

excactly, axl's doing fucking great, not only for 44 but he still blows every fucking frontman out there out of the water...

Axl is Axl

There will never and I mean NEVER be sombody that can take the stage like W. Axl Rose.

No I wasn't in a coma, and i'm not now. I saw all 4 shows and axl is in shape, sounds great, moved great, and had alot of energy... can you run and jump as well as you could 16 years ago?

I'm so sick of people who just love to bash axl no matter what he does. His NY performances are 100 times better than anything in 2002, and his voice kills his destroyed 91-92 days...

But you still didn't answer my question were you at the shows?

i think it was great.whitle singing ''we come together fine''
i yelled oh yeah real loud !
during the 15 thshow in NY. i thought it so sexy when he did that i couldn't help yelling out !
i loved him touchin his crotch lol.

well i might be one of the few, but I prefer when he doesn't dance..

mick jagger's signing style allows him to move as much as he does. Axl's needs a lot more effort & energy

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/jarmo

yeah, i remember hearing that. but honestly guys, axl from 91,92,93 didn't move around like axl from 1988. why ? for one he got ultra healthy and decided to have a massive stage with massive wings that he could sprint back and forth while singing. no one could do that ( including the 44 year old axl ) people change for christs sake. he's not 130 pounds anymore. i thought he moved very well in ny. no his serpentine isn't as fluid but all his power moves are the same. some of you expect to much. i would love to look, move and sound as good as he does when i am 44.   

you guys talk like he's a dinosaur :hihi: geez..wait till the stage is bigger...he'll be running like a maniac again. :peace:

course he's not gonna jump like he used to or headbang crazy like he used to...he's just not in that place anymore.

excactly, great point. 8)

He was ultra healthy while smoking a lot of cigs. 

he did smoke alot of cigs but you know he had such a lean body and could run forever. i meant ultra healthy because of the shape he was in and i assume he ditched the hard drugs before the illusion tours. what would it had been like if he ditched cig's to ? wow that is scary.

In the clip, did anyone else notice all of the cellphones recording the show?
On topic: I would think it is hard to get excited about songs you've been singing for 20 years. I wonder if he was more active during the new songs? Anyone  who was there have a comment?

Axl sang the old songs passionately, but his whole demeanor and enthusiasm changed as soon as he would begin singing one of the new songs.

Obviously since the new guys had no part in writing the classic material, their enthusiasm was pretty tame for the classics, but when Better or TWAT would begin, they looked like they were having the absolute time of their lives! : ok:

i agree. when axl was singing the middle part of better he looked like he was going to explode.

Axls moves on stage are good, but u know there nothing like back in the day. when he run from one end of the stage to the other end, while singing! but now its more of a fast walk, but for his age he still move better than other performers his age!
 :peace: peace out dudes.
gnr 4 life

Call me a homophobe and if i get canned or 'karma'd' then so be it but i believe in free speech and honesty... and therefore i do believe that being gay is something to be ashamed of so there. However, in the context of this board the word 'faggot' seems to mean no more to the posters than any other slang term bandied about. Being a guns fan i'm surprised you are so upset about this, have you never heard 'One in a Million'? ?:hihi:

Personally i think the mods on here are pretty chilled ?: ok:. Unlike those on the My GNR Forum who think their shit doesn't stink and lock threads in a heartbeat. They rip off 99 per cent of their 'scoops' from this forum anyway and then pat themselves on the back for 'breaking the news'. ?:hihi:

it kind of amazes me that we should discuss his mobility?


He is back and was great in New York although I thought he was great in 2002 in Toronto and London too.

the guy is a maniac ya, he is 44 and fit and singing better than ever....when I saw him front row in 91' he was flying all over the place too, the stage was bigger and he was "in the grove" so to speak! Concerts regularly, as the tour progresses he will get more comfortable...He was whipping around that stage preforming the hell out of anyone even close to his leaque in NY....there are not many singers who do what he does while singing.....except for Madonna and Britney spears etc....(with the dancing and singing at the same time)...and we know that the energy and force in Axl's voice is huge....give the guy a break he rocks more than most....still

He has ten times the enery of Mic Jagger even when Mick was 44......been there seen it....

I think his friends and the people in the industry are thrilled to see him back and looking and sounding soooo great.

When he kicked his foot above his head at the beginning of Welcome to the Jungle everyone in the place ?(Hammerstein) saw his mobility, in jeans too.!!!

 : ok:

He looks pretty damned good to me, from what I can see of the recent videos.  : ok:

I'm just thrilled he is back and rocking. I hope to see him in concert when he tours the USA.

why does One In A Million always have to be thrown into these types of discussions? Axl has apologised for the lyrics being understood many times, and cuz Axl used the word doesn't mean you gotta be cool like him or believe in what he does. The word is derogatory....simple...and because you believe in something don't make it right...just respect the guys wishes and don't use the term, why is that so hard. Being homosexual is not something to be ashamed of. (not that he is...just saying in general....I don't care about someone's sexual orientation)

Also I don't think that the way that "faggot" was originally used in this thread was meant as a slight to gay people (My appologies to the poster if i misinterpret here), but unfortunately, the words 'faggot' and 'gay' have gotten mixed up to mean 'idiotic' and 'stupid' (ex. Mick Jagger dances around like an idiot)...Does that make it right? No, definately not, but it became part of the lingo for my age group :-\ I'm not gay myself but i have close freinds who are gay...sometimes i mix up and say something stupid like "Man, that's soo gay!!" i don't mean it but i said it, and i feel bad...but my freinds know what i meant and they know i didn't mean it derogatory to them, also taking it up with the poster in PM's or using the "report to mod" feature is nice like Jarmo already suggested...doesn't single somebody out : ok:

and lastly....the best advice for anyone if somebody makes you pissed...."Drink it off!!" :beer:

axl does NOT need to be running around on stage anymore.  what good is it?  he runs around, runs out of breath, then cant sing.  who gives a fuck if he moves at all?  i think he should get a fucking podium and wear a suit and stand and sing at it the whole time.  now THAT would be the tits.

lol at picturing axl at a podium addressing the crowd like a presidential candidate.

car mechanics and a basketball coach too :rofl:

I agree, stop thinking about shit guys!

The less movement the better he will sound.

I guess we'll see at RIR 4 how he performs . ?As good ?a showman as he was in RIR 3, ? he better be twice as good this time around. ?I want a RIR 2 performance , anything less will be a disappointment.

is this rio 5 ,didn't he pull out of 4?

maybe he'll stand there strapped to a board with a mic up to his face? :hihi: I think that's a good idea ::)

He'll run around just like he did in 2002 : ok:

yeah rio5