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Title: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: tomc102968 on September 17, 2006, 04:11:29 PM I just watched gnr and metallicas performance of rock am germany concerts and james interaction with the crowd seems to me
to be a lot more than axl's. I wish axl would do more of that. He seems comfitable now with the band now bring the audenance into it or is it just me? peace out Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: AdZ on September 17, 2006, 04:13:12 PM Crowd interaction's kinda cheesy.
Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: mlewis on September 17, 2006, 04:13:41 PM Bear in mind that the GnR concert at least is very edited. Axl does most of his interaction in the time between songs, and that was all cut out.
Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: WARose on September 17, 2006, 04:18:17 PM Crowd interaction's kinda cheesy. i tend to agree.... axl`s doing his thing for 20 years now by the way. james hetfield as well.... and i chose to prefer axl (by far) Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: CheapJon on September 17, 2006, 04:21:43 PM what does crowd interaction mean? define it....
Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on September 17, 2006, 04:22:39 PM What do you call KOHD?
Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: the dirt on September 17, 2006, 04:23:16 PM what does crowd interaction mean? define it.... If I acknowledge you in the crowd it's cheesy. Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: JAC185 on September 17, 2006, 04:23:41 PM Doesn't Axl say something like 'this is one of those cheap band gimmicks' during KOHD? Maybe that was a sly shot at Metallica
Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: the dirt on September 17, 2006, 04:24:46 PM Doesn't Axl say something like 'this is one of those cheap band gimmicks' during KOHD? Maybe that was a sly shot at Metallica Maybe it was a shot at Bob Dylan :-\ Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: Bill 213 on September 17, 2006, 04:59:55 PM Doesn't Axl say something like 'this is one of those cheap band gimmicks' during KOHD? Maybe that was a sly shot at Metallica Maybe it was a shot at Bob Dylan? :-\ it wasn't a shot against anyone sheesh. It was basically calling it what it is......the singer sings a verse then gets the crowd to interact and sing one back.......Many bands do it.......GNR, Pearl Jam, etc. Talk about looking too much into things. Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: the dirt on September 17, 2006, 05:08:21 PM Doesn't Axl say something like 'this is one of those cheap band gimmicks' during KOHD? Maybe that was a sly shot at Metallica Maybe it was a shot at Bob Dylan? :-\ it wasn't a shot against anyone sheesh.? It was basically calling it what it is......the singer sings a verse then gets the crowd to interact and sing one back.......Many bands do it.......GNR, Pearl Jam, etc.? Talk about looking too much into things. I'm not looking into anything... Maybe it was a shot at you, Bill :o Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: phreakofnature on September 17, 2006, 05:17:13 PM he was all over the crowed last night.
Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: Robman? on September 17, 2006, 05:48:06 PM Doesn't Axl say something like 'this is one of those cheap band gimmicks' during KOHD? Maybe that was a sly shot at Metallica Maybe it was a shot at Bob Dylan? :-\ it wasn't a shot against anyone sheesh.? It was basically calling it what it is......the singer sings a verse then gets the crowd to interact and sing one back.......Many bands do it.......GNR, Pearl Jam, etc.? Talk about looking too much into things. Queen was the biggest interactor of all. Freddie Mercury got the whole of wembley stadium sing and clap in 1986 & at live aid in 85 Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: Bill 213 on September 17, 2006, 05:51:22 PM Doesn't Axl say something like 'this is one of those cheap band gimmicks' during KOHD? Maybe that was a sly shot at Metallica Maybe it was a shot at Bob Dylan? :-\ it wasn't a shot against anyone sheesh.? It was basically calling it what it is......the singer sings a verse then gets the crowd to interact and sing one back.......Many bands do it.......GNR, Pearl Jam, etc.? Talk about looking too much into things. I'm not looking into anything... Maybe it was a shot at you, Bill :o I hope so, because Bob Dylan and crowd interaction don't exist. I went to see him and I think he spoke once throughout the show to the crowd. It was about 8 songs in and he just goes, "Hello friends". I think Axl feeds off the crowd nicely. If they're lively then he gives right back. If they're douchebags then he cuts the set short and plays a small encore and says goodnight. Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: Elrothiel on September 17, 2006, 06:49:26 PM What do you call KOHD? HELL YEA!!! Gawd I was there when I saw THAT happen! Fuckin' cool!! Ahhh.... Hammersmith... *thinks back with big fat happy grin* Anyone who thinks Axl don't interact with the crowd should see that! You want crowd interaction? Watch that! Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: PrettyTiedUp763 on September 17, 2006, 06:56:09 PM There is plenty crowd interaction. I just think that it varies on his mood.
Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: Gargh! on September 17, 2006, 07:14:20 PM Do any of the other band members banter with the crowd?
Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: jarmo on September 17, 2006, 07:15:20 PM Do any of the other band members banter with the crowd? Tommy told the Download crowd to stop throwing shit or he'd go home... /jarmo Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: nesquick on September 17, 2006, 07:20:52 PM The crowd's interaction to the GN'R show I went to was good. It was one of the positive things at the show. :)
Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: Bono on September 17, 2006, 07:59:51 PM Crwod interaction when done right is great but the way Axl has always done it, is lame. Half the time his interaction has nothing to do with the show and does nothng to improve the show. They're simply rants about nothing.
Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: jarmo on September 17, 2006, 08:05:32 PM Crwod interaction when done right is great but the way Axl has always done it, is lame. Half the time his interaction has nothing to do with the show and does nothng to improve the show. They're simply rants about nothing. Please give eamples. I remember him asking the crowd if they were having a good time, him asking for some security guys to be kicked out and him making fun of the incident in Sweden.... /jarmo Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: Bono on September 17, 2006, 08:20:44 PM Crwod interaction when done right is great but the way Axl has always done it, is lame. Half the time his interaction has nothing to do with the show and does nothng to improve the show. They're simply rants about nothing. Please give eamples. I remember him asking the crowd if they were having a good time, him asking for some security guys to be kicked out and him making fun of the incident in Sweden.... /jarmo Dude the Warren Beaty thing was lame. the stopping of YCBM at the exact same point(it's staged) on numerous occasions to lecture the crowd on throwing things(which is bad) or to kick out his own security ::). I think his rants are lame as hell. they come off as some guy rambling on about nothing. Asking the crowd if they're having a good time is not interaction. That's standard. You can interact with the crowd without saying a word. Even back when I thought Axl was the coolest I never liked his rants and always felt like rolling my eyes whe he did them. Top be honest I've never thought there is a real connection between fans and Axl durring the shows. In my opinion he seems to distance himself from it and any interaction that he does have comes across as forced or fake in my opinion. I even felt this way at the Hammerstien gig I went to. He's a great performer but as far as interacting and connecting with the crowd I don't think so. And yes I think you can be one without the other. Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: ppbebe on September 17, 2006, 08:37:25 PM Quote the Warren Beaty thing when was it? can't you give an example more recent and clearer? Otherwise that will be taken as an example of decided improvements. Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: Voodoochild on September 17, 2006, 08:41:31 PM He interacted A LOT in RIR3 with Brazilian fans, so I dunno wtf are you talkin' about. :P
Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: Bono on September 17, 2006, 08:54:06 PM Quote the Warren Beaty thing when was it? can't you give an example more recent and clearer? Otherwise that will be taken as an example of decided improvements. Wow. Did you not read the entire post. How come some of you feel the need for such extreme specific examples. I gave the examples about stopping the song durring YCBM and in general about his rants. that's enough. I don' t feel Axl interacts well with the crowd. I don't feel he ever has and I don't feel he did when I saw him at hammerstein. there, that's my current example. I saw a freaking show live in 2006 and based my opinion on that. Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: holtzmn73 on September 17, 2006, 09:14:47 PM the stopping of YCBM at the exact same point(it's staged) on numerous occasions to lecture the crowd on throwing things(which is bad) or to kick out his own security ::). How many times has Axl stopped YCBM? I remember once in '92 and then once again in '06, its not staged. The rants were kinda boring though, I'd rather hear more songs. Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: ppbebe on September 17, 2006, 11:00:15 PM Wow. Did you not read the entire post. How come some of you feel the need for such extreme specific examples. I did that's why the request. In short you can't think of any clear case. I gave the examples about stopping the song durring YCBM and in general about his rants. that's enough. I don' t feel Axl interacts well with the crowd. I don't feel he ever has and I don't feel he did when I saw him at hammerstein. there, that's my current example. I saw a freaking show live in 2006 and based my opinion on that. what holtzmn73 said. He doesn't make rants lately. instead he makes many witty one liners to the fans and with his band mates. Those fall flat on a man without understanding..... :no: that's not his lack of interaction but yours, essesentially I'm afraid. Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: Danny on September 17, 2006, 11:27:39 PM This is sort of off-topic, but the first post reminded me of something I had'nt thought about in awhile. I saw GNR/Metallica at the Metrodome in Minneapolis. During KOHD, the big screens showed different shots backstage. They showed Hetfield smiling and waving at the camera, and at one point they showed Jim Martin (Faith No More was the opener--this was their last show on the tour--Mike Patton told the crowd that they were "Getting out of the ring").
Just remembered that and thought it was funny. D Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: Bono on September 18, 2006, 12:18:44 AM what holtzmn73 said. He doesn't make rants lately. instead he makes many witty one liners to the fans and with his band mates. Those fall flat on a man without understanding..... :no: that's not his lack of interaction but yours, essesentially I'm afraid. I made my case. I? gave my examples. I'm not gonna list the entire history of Guns to prove my opinion. I saw them this year and made my opinion based on that as well as past concerts. You need to get over the fact that my opinion on this is different than yours. If you guys feel one liners and rants and stopping songs and all that shit is interaction than fine that's great. I think Axl's one liners are lame. I said it before. I don't think he comes across as a guy who feels the need or want for a connection between fan and performer durring the shows. I said I feel his "interaction" comes across as fake or forced. That's my opinion. I'm not trying to tell you guys otherwise or that you're wrong. I don't need to give any further examples. I think seeing them live this year is basis enough for me to form a valid opinion. Like I said I think he's a great performer but as far as interacting with the crowd I think he's pretty poor at it. Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: BluesGNR on September 18, 2006, 01:39:03 AM Crowd interaction's kinda cheesy. Agreed. This is Guns N' Roses - Not some kind of skidda-marinky-rinky-dink kind of Elephant Show sing along... Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: Miggy on September 18, 2006, 03:53:00 AM I hope Axl never interacts with the crowd like James Hetfield does!? Let's see, it would go something like this:
- My friends! - My lovely friends! - You make GN'R very happy! - We looooove you! - You make us feel sooooo good. - You make us proud to be in GN'R. - blablabla ... Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: BluesGNR on September 18, 2006, 03:53:46 AM Hahaha.. and it's so true.... :rofl:
Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: anythinggoes on September 18, 2006, 05:11:49 AM Do any of the other band members banter with the crowd? Tommy told the Download crowd to stop throwing shit or he'd go home... /jarmo ha good positive interaction i always thought the solos were crowd interaction like the Dont cry solo and the things like the band menbers going down to crowd front row at the end of the day this band plays too the crowd not at the crowd they feed of the energy and it shows through Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: liesin on September 18, 2006, 06:08:47 AM I\m happy with his interaction with the crowd, you must take in considaretion that axl never was the fans kind of guy imo. he does what he should and I fucking respect him for the music, However it would be nice if the whole band participated more.
Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: babydolls on September 18, 2006, 06:16:20 AM the first thing that springs to my mind re Axl's crowd interaction is Wembley 29th this year - stopping the show to tell us all about the acoustic gig happening later that night and then reading out a list of people's names who were invited to go. i'd say that was pretty awesome interaction with a crowd! :hihi:
Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: jarmo on September 18, 2006, 06:21:44 AM Dude the Warren Beaty thing was lame. the stopping of YCBM at the exact same point(it's staged) on numerous occasions to lecture the crowd on throwing things(which is bad) or to kick out his own security ::).? I think his rants are lame as hell. they come off as some guy rambling on about nothing. Looks like your "always" means "the early 90s". He hasn't ranted about Warren since June 6th, 1992. I guess you think the incident in Newcastle was staged as well. /jarmo Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: Warchild on September 18, 2006, 07:34:50 AM Crwod interaction when done right is great but the way Axl has always done it, is lame. Half the time his interaction has nothing to do with the show and does nothng to improve the show. They're simply rants about nothing. OPinions Vary....maybe you can go to a fallout boy's show to "Interact" Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: miss bomb on September 18, 2006, 07:43:54 AM Do any of the other band members banter with the crowd? Tommy told the Download crowd to stop throwing shit or he'd go home... /jarmo ;D considering how long gnr shows are, i appreciate axl keeping the talking to a minimum, more time for music : ok: Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: darkmonth on September 18, 2006, 09:12:58 AM Crowd interaction's kinda cheesy. Doesn't matter ... it's part of being at a show ... and if you're saying that just to excuse it, because you're a GnR fan, that's sad. I don't NEED the interaction... but a lot of people love it. It doesn't matter how 'cheesy' it is. GnR did it all the time in the old days... a show is a show. Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: WARose on September 18, 2006, 09:47:40 AM i can?t see the point here unfortunately...
i saw gnr twice this year and axl was in a great mood and interacted more than i expected him to do. he was speaking to the crowd after every song at rock am ring and it never came over as cheesy oder fake..... axl`s one of the most real guys in the music business today imo... most people have friends, family and lovers to tell them that they?re loved..... if not let james hetfield do the job and go to a metallica concert to feel better..... that`s not axl?s job... oh and... perhaps it`s just striking me.... but...i`m really wondering why a guy called "bono" with a "U2" pic in his avatar and a quote from "bono" in his signature needs to bitch about axl`s way of interacting with the crowd - on this board... are the whiners calling for reinforcement from other fanboards now??? Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: ppbebe on September 18, 2006, 12:20:24 PM To disgrace U2 fans? ???
You need to get over the fact that my opinion on this is different than yours. Im not the one who needs to get over whatever. How many times have I said each to their own? I stated my opinions regarding to your opinion that rings pretty biased in my opinion. I might add, I think it might be your sentiment against the guy that made you have that opinion.. Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: Bono on September 18, 2006, 02:52:22 PM Quote from: WARose oh and... perhaps it`s just striking me.... but...i`m really wondering why a guy called "bono" with a "U2" pic in his avatar and a quote from "bono" in his signature needs to bitch about axl`s way of interacting with the crowd - on this board...? are the whiners calling for reinforcement from other fanboards now??? you know what... . I don;'t give two shits what you think.? The original post asked the question I gave my opinion. I wasn't bitching about anything. I in fact said I think Axl's a great performer but as far as interaction with the crowd goes I don't think he's great at it and I don't think he's the type of performer who needs to do that. You people are so up your own ass that you can't even comprehend what I'm saying.? Oh and as for the username and quote I guess it's taboo to be a fan of other bands as well as Gn'R now right? Quote from: ppbebe your opinion that rings pretty biased in my opinion. What are you talking about? To disgrace U 2 fans? biased towards what?? And what guy made me have my opinion? Axl? I love Axl as a performer and an artist, I just don't think crowd interaction is his best characteristic. GET OVER IT!I might add, I think it might be your sentiment against the guy that made you have that opinion Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: GeorgeSteele on September 18, 2006, 03:09:08 PM This is how you interact... http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=111184 Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: ppbebe on September 18, 2006, 03:19:03 PM Quote GET OVER IT! U2. as I said, it's my opinion that is different than yours. Quote I love Axl as a performer and an artist so what? How many times I've heard constant axl bashers say this line. this topic is not about his music. Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: WARose on September 18, 2006, 03:30:22 PM Quote from: WARose oh and... perhaps it`s just striking me.... but...i`m really wondering why a guy called "bono" with a "U2" pic in his avatar and a quote from "bono" in his signature needs to bitch about axl`s way of interacting with the crowd - on this board... are the whiners calling for reinforcement from other fanboards now??? you know what... . I don;'t give two shits what you think. The original post asked the question I gave my opinion. I wasn't bitching about anything. I in fact said I think Axl's a great performer but as far as interaction with the crowd goes I don't think he's great at it and I don't think he's the type of performer who needs to do that. You people are so up your own ass that you can't even comprehend what I'm saying. Oh and as for the username and quote I guess it's taboo to be a fan of other bands as well as Gn'R now right? Quote from: ppbebe your opinion that rings pretty biased in my opinion. What are you talking about? To disgrace U 2 fans? biased towards what? And what guy made me have my opinion? Axl? I love Axl as a performer and an artist, I just don't think crowd interaction is his best characteristic. GET OVER IT!I might add, I think it might be your sentiment against the guy that made you have that opinion well dude.... i was just a little curious why i guy called "bono" is posting about how he doesn`t like axl`s way of interacting with the crowd on a gnr board... and to me it`s a little contradictory to say his interacting sucks, but you love him as a performer... interacting with the crowd is probably the most important aspect of performing.... depending on how you define it... Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: Continental Drift on September 18, 2006, 05:32:55 PM Seems to me that Axl's always been a little "aloof" on stage. Somewhat separated from what's going on around him- only choosing to interact when it serves some purpose for him (i.e. blowing off some steam or bitchin' someone out etc.). I don't think that's going to change now that he's in his 40's. I kind of like that about him as a performer though... on a good night- he's busy giving his all (focusing on his vocals and getting his ass around stage)- not trying to make friends with everyone in the crowd. I think the fact that he's somewhat "removed" from the audience makes him 10,000 x more charismatic. Shows he's not just some shmuck on a stage at the state fair- but a Grade A international rock star. : ok:
Title: Re: lack of interacton with crowd Post by: Bono on September 18, 2006, 09:27:58 PM Quote from: MaoAxl Seems to me that Axl's always been a little "aloof" on stage. Somewhat separated from what's going on around him- only choosing to interact when it serves some purpose for him (i.e. blowing off some steam or bitchin' someone out etc.). I don't think that's going to change now that he's in his 40's. I kind of like that about him as a performer though... on a good night- he's busy giving his all (focusing on his vocals and getting his ass around stage)- not trying to make friends with everyone in the crowd. I think the fact that he's somewhat "removed" from the audience makes him 10,000 x more charismatic. Shows he's not just some shmuck on a stage at the state fair- but a Grade A international rock star. : ok: Exactly my point. He seems removed from the crowd for the most part and he's the type of artist who's at his best when he's in that paticular zone. When he does start interacting with the crowd it comes off as unnatural in my opinion. Thats' all I'm getting at. Quote from: ppbebe so what? How many times I've heard constant axl bashers say this line. this topic is not about his music. Ppbebe I'm not an Axl basher. I've been a fan long enough and a diehad long enough that for me to be an Axl basher would make no sense. I have no desire to do that. I am a fan though who isn't afraid to call things the way I see them be that for better or worse. I'll shoot straight every single time. The best way to sum up my feelings for Axl is a love/hate type of deal. I've praised the guy on so many ocasions yet those things go unoticed obviously on a Gn'R board. Yet when someone speaks up and expresses their disgust or their disatisfaction or simply an opinion that doesn't glorify the greatness of Lord Axl people on these boards take offense and take it personally. Those things get noticed becasue people are sensitive and rarely do they tale the time to think where it's coming form. rather they simple explode and prclaim the person as an Axl basher. There's no way I woudl have travelled huge distances to see this new band if I was an Axl basher or hater. I want this thing to work. I know there are some definate trolls who love nothing more than to hate on AXL. I'm not one of those people. :peace: |