Here Today... Gone To Hell!

just cam to my head the other day!! sorry if i am a bit slow! will it be called ....democracy or will it be released at the last minute under an new name???!! personally, i dont think it will!

nobody knows.

WHO KNOWS ??? ?I think it will be mainly because i have seen chinese writing on some of the sets on this tour.

BUT it could be changed ???

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it will stay as 'chinese democracy', the name itself is already massive/well-known

I agree with that , It would be a massive waste of so much hype !!!

so is Adolf Hitler, but I doubt anyone would want to use it ::)

but still, Chinese Democracy is known to be the long awaited album from GNR... has been for god knows how long... so if they change the title i think alot of people would wondering what happeneed to CD...

in the terms of Here Today Gone To Hell

"Chinese Democracy" has bad karma in the eyes of the public.

The name Chinese Democracy is a goldmine. Axl would be a fucking idiot to change the name at this point.
Chinese Democracy=Massive Curiosity=Huge Record Sales

Axl will call the album any fucking thing he wants,so it doesn't matter what we say about it anyway  :beer:

It would be a pretty bad idea to change the title now. The title ' chinese democracy' has been hyped over the years. Just think of the many times that title was mentioned in the reviews of the European shows. It would be a waste of cheap promotion.

Wait and see.. so far, I haven't heard any band member actually talkin' about "Chinese Democracy".. They just call it "the record" :hihi:

what about Damnocracy?  :hihi:

İn that eddie trunk thing he did, he said he wanted to go to china (and did) before they banned them cause of the name.Maybe he was just reffering to the song, but i think he was talking about the album title.

i love surprises, so if the name is another one, i'll like the idea.

i mean...of course chinese democracy is now a well-known name...but it can be a huge buzz to change it too.

all the media will report it anyway "chinese democracy is not the name of the new GNR, it's ***** ** *******.

(no no i have no info about it  ;))

Yea, I think that if it weren't already popular, then they would have changed it by now.

I think it will be called Chinese Democracy, thats a pretty great name.  More importantly I hope we get some more info on the release soon.

actually in the richard fortus email thread on the last page an email said we cant wait for the public to hear chinese democracy finally!!! or something like that..

and also, i reeeally cant see how/why any of u guys wuld even think that the name would be changed. not a chance :P

 :hihi:

I hope it's called "Chinese Democracy" after all this time.  And honestly, whatever its name, I just want the album to come out.  In the meantime, I'll make do with my "Chinese Demo-cracy" album, consisting of the demos and live tracks that will likely be on the CD...

It will be called Chinese Democracy, Axl went through a lot of trouble to secure the name for this release.  It's pointless to change the name now.

Please elaborate.

People know the name CD the radio always metions CD should be coming out it is CD.

I'm thinking back to a couple years ago when The Offspring were going to name their album Chinese Demorcracy and Axl got a court order to stop them from using the name. 

That was actually a joke. I thought you were referring to that book called Chinese Democracy from the 80's.

As far as I know, The Offspring were serious about using the title.

Fuck he should just name it heretodaygonetohell!

I think the 'You Snooze, You Lose' in the title pretty much confirmed it was a joke.

Yeah I heard the "you snooze you lose" joke.  I thought I read in the wikipedia website about the court order, but since then that bit has been removed.  So much for my source now, LOL.

I have a kerrang mag in which the Offspring singer said the lawsuit was bullshit lies. He never heard from Axl's lawyers.

Probably because they didn't care about the dip shit "stealing" the album title.? The nutwaste made it sound like if Offspring used it, Axl could not.? Doesn't matter how many jerkoffs try to rip off the name.? When a CD drops that has both Guns N' Roses and Chinese Democracy on the same cover the sales will go through the roof.? People that have no idea who GN'R were are intrigued by the "the most expensive and eagerly awaited album never released."?

It would be absolutely idiotic to even fathom changing the album title at this point.? That would be like The Beatles becoming The Clams or Ozzy Osbourne becoming John Wickerwater.? Not a good idea.

I didn't realize the lawsuit or supposed court order to get Offspring to change the title was probably bull shit.  I originally read it on the wikipedia website a few months ago. But I believe that bit of information was removed since then.  With that said I don't think Axl would change the album title at this point.  But....if the album is going to be released in 2 or 3 parts, do you think "part 2" would take on a different title?

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will the album still be called chinese democracy because the name even though its embeded into peoples mind its not going to be as "fresh" or whatever when the album is released.

im not sure if this post makes sense but it does in my head  :peace:

i think i smell a dead horse here....

Yeah, maybe it should be called 2000 intentions..... ;D? ? Anyone Remember when that was the supposed album title?

yeah, before the millenium right?

Yes around 1998/1999 I think there was an unofficial website using the same name. 

i think 2000 intentions would have been a really cool name if they had just gotten the record out before the millenium, but today i think chinese democracy fits better.. but if they wanna change it again it'd be fine with me,

maybe it should be called. Been to hell but here today.


actually thats crap forget it :no:

There's just no way they'll go with another title. There would be no reason, plus the title is mythic by this point.

Since they are sticking with the Chinese theme while on tour, i guess the album will still be called Chinese Democracy. What i find really odd though, is they donot appear to perform Chinese Democracy at the shows too often. And truth be known, the track Chinese Democracy is one of the weaker songs from the new band. It is no where near as good as Better, The Blues or IRS. Behind these 3 tracks we have Madagascar, Catcher in the Rye, both bettter tracks than Chinese Democracy. Then theres Riyad and the Bedouins, even that has more potential.

yeah i agree, they will most likely call the album CD.. 'cause as you say why should they keep the chinese style of the t-shirts and stage etc. i think the song CD is pretty darn cool, after i saw the DVD from hammerstein NYC 17 june i think that song really grew on me.. there was a kind of a xylophone sound (almost jungle sound) in it wich was really cool and i hadn't heard that before.. i think the studioversion is gonna be killer : ok:

Yes, except it may be called "Chinese Democracy Part 1". I am basing this on nothing.

It's gotta be called Chinese Democracy......it has been called that for years and it is becoming a familiar name to people who have forgotten GNR years ago and others who bad mouth the band...even though they are going to buy the album anyway.

followed by "Chinese Democracy Part 2" then part 3? with a subtitle unique to each album.
Or vol.1, 2, 3.

i don't think they'll change the name, it's a very good one, everybody is asking about chinese democracy....
i hope they'll keep on doing it when the record hits the stores

It's gonna be called Chinese Democracy. It would be dumb to change the name now, plus with the stage still having the Chinese theme. At the VMAs John Norris specifically asked if Chinese Democracy would be coming out soon, and Axl responded "it is this year" as we all know. If the name changed he probably would have said something about it then.

'The Record' would be a great name. It's a surprise, it's cutting edge.....nah, it's shite.
But I haven't heard actually heard Axl refer to 'Chinese Democracy' the album, just the song.

I think name Chinese Democracy is too specific. If Axl wants to have views on communism, then why focus on China? there are other communist countries out there. Maybe its more shallow than that, and Axl simply likes the new font style. It really would not surprize me if the album was called something else and the name Chinese Democracy was simply a working title. Or, it could be called Chinese Democracy simply because there is a track called Chinese Democracy on the album (which is a kinda boring reason). If that were the case, then why not simply call the album Madagascar, as thats a cool name and sounds like an amazing place.

since the release of the Dreamworks film Madagascar i do kinda associate the name Madagascar with that film  :peace:

Don't be so sure.

Years ago someone used Elvis Hitler. Kind of a take off on Marilyn Manson.

At the concert in Vegas 010101, he introduced 'Chinese Democracy' (the song) as 'the title-track of the record'

Elvis Hitler would be a great title for Chinese Democracy! (joking)

First: You can't copy right a title (this is for the Offspring argument).
Second: During the HAmmerstein shows, Axl specifically said he new everyone was waiting for the new album, which he called "Chinese Democracy."

"Chinese Democracy" is already like a trademark. The name of this album is already famous before it's even released.... of course it will still be called "Chinese Democracy".

I have just a slight feeling that it may keep the title 'Chinese Democracy'... but it's just a hunch...

Take out "I think" from that sentence and you have hit the nail on the head.

It's gonna be called "Nail on the Head!"

Axl is hammering a nail into something he hates.  Maybe Mao Zedong?

Sorry guys, I'm on the NyQuil! (I love that stuff)

Back in my drug days, I used to drink that shit like it was water. It helped me stop drinking. Instead of a bottle of whiskey, I always carried around a bottle of Nyquil. :rofl:

Duuuuuuuude!  I just thought of the perfect album cover!  A bottle of greeeeeen NyQuil!  That's so Warholian!  If I wasn't a fan, I'd buy the album just to look at the purty cover!  :o