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Title: Half a step down
Post by: Jack49 on April 16, 2007, 06:23:05 PM
I cant find the meanging to this anywhere.   Is this tuning or?   Most GnR songs are tuned half a step down 1 fret and im completely lost on meaning      Any help would be appreciated, thanks


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: sucker punch on April 16, 2007, 06:38:21 PM
Half a step down means you just tune your guitar down 1 fret yeah all gnr songs are tuned down 1 fret


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: Jack49 on April 16, 2007, 06:52:33 PM
Half a step down means you just tune your guitar down 1 fret yeah all gnr songs are tuned down 1 fret
I know but what does it mean?


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: Cowboy Buddha on April 16, 2007, 08:51:42 PM
Instead of playing in EADGBE, you tune your strings to D#G#C#F#A#D#


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: Jack49 on April 16, 2007, 08:54:47 PM
Instead of playing in EADGBE, you tune your strings to D#G#C#F#A#D#
Ahh ok thanks


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: metallex78 on April 16, 2007, 10:29:05 PM
Instead of playing in EADGBE, you tune your strings to D#G#C#F#A#D#

All this time I thought it was E flat tuning, not D sharp tuning... ???


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: Jim Bob on April 16, 2007, 11:33:50 PM
Instead of playing in EADGBE, you tune your strings to D#G#C#F#A#D#

All this time I thought it was E flat tuning, not D sharp tuning... ???

they are the same thing


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: metallex78 on April 17, 2007, 02:53:57 AM
Instead of playing in EADGBE, you tune your strings to D#G#C#F#A#D#

All this time I thought it was E flat tuning, not D sharp tuning... ???

they are the same thing

Yeah, I know, but I've never heard someone saying they're tuning to D sharp, I've always referred to it as E flat. Just thought it was odd. :hihi:


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: mrlee on April 17, 2007, 07:41:50 AM
Instead of playing in EADGBE, you tune your strings to D#G#C#F#A#D#

All this time I thought it was E flat tuning, not D sharp tuning... ???

they are the same thing

Yeah, I know, but I've never heard someone saying they're tuning to D sharp, I've always referred to it as E flat. Just thought it was odd. :hihi:

i know it as D sharp also.


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: Neemo on April 17, 2007, 08:29:40 AM
haha i know it as e-flat....do people actually tune to standard? shame on all of you....guitars should always be a half-step down :P


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: Johnny Rattlesnake on April 17, 2007, 11:00:13 AM
My band used to play in standard and I got hand cramps all of the time.
Went away after we started tuning a half step down.


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: mrlee on April 17, 2007, 11:11:06 AM
music should be in whatever tuning fits your songs emotion.


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: Neemo on April 17, 2007, 11:35:19 AM
music should be in whatever tuning fits your songs emotion.

two steps down :hihi:

most of the music i listen to and play is half step down so thats what i tune to :peace: and it should be tuned to whatever your singer can manage :P


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: mrlee on April 17, 2007, 12:20:00 PM
music should be in whatever tuning fits your songs emotion.

two steps down :hihi:

most of the music i listen to and play is half step down so thats what i tune to :peace: and it should be tuned to whatever your singer can manage :P

lol id have to do C tuning then


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: deadtotheworld on April 17, 2007, 03:38:05 PM
I really wish Dave Mustaine would tune to D - it would improve his vocals alot live, but he is very stubborn about downtuning. I think axl could do with the band tuning another half a step down sometimes too.


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: Jack49 on April 17, 2007, 04:18:37 PM
My tuner doesnt tune to anything but the standard.  I dont have C and F.   Do I have to wait till I get better by ear or is there an alternative way of getting this tuing with a regular standard tuner?


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: Neemo on April 17, 2007, 04:27:49 PM
do you have a button that says "flat" hit that once and you should be golden : ok: my tuner cost $15 and it has the option its a Korg


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: Gonzo Axl on April 17, 2007, 05:57:09 PM
I know tuning down is fun and it gives a nice tone and bend feel, but if your learning, learn in Standard, otherwise your fingers will be weak and your ear will be off. : ok:


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: 25 on April 17, 2007, 08:12:48 PM
I know tuning down is fun and it gives a nice tone and bend feel, but if your learning, learn in Standard, otherwise your fingers will be weak and your ear will be off. : ok:

Lies!
Tuning a half-step down doesn't decrease the string tension all that much, besides which the gauge of your strings will make much more difference to the amount of force you're using to fret (and it's still not much of a difference at that).

And your ear would only be "off"if you really, really believe that the Eb you're tuning to is actually E.


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: metallex78 on April 17, 2007, 08:42:45 PM
I have my guitar in standard tuning at the moment, but I like E flat because the strings are that little bit looser and it gives a bit more deeper crunch. Plus you can play along to GN'R cds when tuned down and that's always a good thing. : ok:


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: AXL 20 on April 18, 2007, 02:36:47 PM
I have my orville les paul in half step down for my GNR stuff and my own stuff
Im waiting on my Les Paul copy to come back with a kahler on it for standard and drop D


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: deadtotheworld on April 19, 2007, 01:39:07 PM
Jack49 - An easy way of tuning to E flat is to put a capo on the first fret of the guitar and tune to standard, then when you take the capo off... it will be in e flat.

Or just press the first fret and keep it pressed while you tune. If the intonation is fine on your guitar - it should be spot on.


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: deadtotheworld on April 19, 2007, 01:43:28 PM
Or tune in standard for starters - then press the 4th fret of the low E and tune your A string to that note. Then press the 5th note on the A string and tune your D string to that note and so on, then when you have tuned the strings up to the high E, return to the low E and press the 5th fret and tune down to the note of the open A.


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: AXL 20 on April 19, 2007, 04:06:00 PM
or just get a fucking tuner that works like it should


Title: Re: Half a step down
Post by: darkmonth on April 20, 2007, 12:03:52 PM
Tuning your guitar up and down fucks around with the tension on the neck. .... .. hence why touring bands etc have multiple guitars for different tunings ... that and speed of changing over ... but the tension thing shouldn't be overlooked...

Anyways ... I tune in E ... I don't jam to GnR much anymore ... I love GnR, but fuck me ... I'm so bored playin the tunes now ... I'm sure I'll get back into it... just can't be bothered at the mo ...